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David George - 22 Nov 2003 14:28 GMT
Greetings,
I have found an old movie at our local public library called "Ben".
It stars a trained rat.  Are there any other rat related movies?  I
have seen NIMH, etc.  How about some old time radio horror shows.

-David
blove - 22 Nov 2003 16:23 GMT
there is the old movie Willard that Ben is a sequal to.  and then there is
the new version of Willard that just came out on video earlier this month.
then there is a movie called Rats that i have on dvd, it sucks but its about
killer rats.

> Greetings,
> I have found an old movie at our local public library called "Ben".
> It stars a trained rat.  Are there any other rat related movies?  I
> have seen NIMH, etc.  How about some old time radio horror shows.
>
> -David
Jade - 23 Nov 2003 01:04 GMT
Is that the one where the rats in New York are terrorizing people?  I saw a
movie around Halloween time and in one scene, the rats come out of some kind
of pipes and a swimming pool gets full of them and they are trying to chase
the little kids in the pool.  That was a crazy movie.  I think it was called
"The Rats".

Erika
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> there is the old movie Willard that Ben is a sequal to.  and then there is
> the new version of Willard that just came out on video earlier this month.
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> >
> > -David
belt - 23 Nov 2003 10:37 GMT
I havent seen Ben yet, but the song at the end of the new Willard is pretty
good and on par with rats.  I didn't know there was and older Willard,
thanks!--I'll have to buy both old Willard and Ben now.

The newer Willard is pretty good with the affects and introverted angst
storyline, but--his 'Socrates' rat sure seems to make a lot of squeaking
that I've never heard of.  Not even close to chattering.  More of a pained
squeak.

But, to tell the truth, had I never been owned by a rat, I prolly wouldn't
know the difference.

--Belt

> Is that the one where the rats in New York are terrorizing people?  I saw a
> movie around Halloween time and in one scene, the rats come out of some kind
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> > >
> > > -David
Mariette - 22 Nov 2003 22:52 GMT
>Greetings,
>I have found an old movie at our local public library called "Ben".
>It stars a trained rat.  Are there any other rat related movies?  I
>have seen NIMH, etc.  How about some old time radio horror shows.
>
>-David

See "Rats in the Media" for rats (and mice) in films and on TV:
http://www.petrat.ca/media.html#media

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Tracey - 24 Nov 2003 15:32 GMT
> Greetings,
> I have found an old movie at our local public library called "Ben".
> It stars a trained rat.  Are there any other rat related movies?  I
> have seen NIMH, etc.  How about some old time radio horror shows.
>
> -David

There's a movie called 'Rat' set in Ireland starring Pete Postlethwaite as a
man who turns into a rat.  It's not the best movie, but there's a few funny
scenes like when the rat is enjoying a pint of guinness at the local pub.
Take a look at this link for more info   http://www.rat-themovie.com/

Does anybody know whether the new Willard movie ever came to UK as I'd like
to see that.  I've never seen it advertised at cinemas and have never seen
it in the video shop.

Tracey
J&S Bouchard - 24 Nov 2003 16:21 GMT
> > Greetings,
> > I have found an old movie at our local public library called "Ben".
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>
> Tracey

Hi Tracey, I've seen that movie "Rat"... I loved it...it was funny but
didn't like the rat being flung over the fence...lol
I so loved the new Willard. I also watched the commentaries and deleted
scenes...if the director could have followed his true vision for this movie
and not fall victim to what the big wigs want, this movie would have been my
all time favorite. But of course we can't have a movie that shows great
intelligence from a rat or letting a rat win in the end...don't be foolish,
that wouldn't sell box office tickets, not like they did any better anyway.
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paghat - 24 Nov 2003 17:35 GMT
> > Greetings,
> > I have found an old movie at our local public library called "Ben".
> > It stars a trained rat.  Are there any other rat related movies?  I
> > have seen NIMH, etc.  How about some old time radio horror shows.

"BEN" was the sequel to "WILLARD," which was recently remade, both
versions are fun to see. The remake is supposed to be about the son of the
original Willard; the original actor is the model for the film's painted
portrait of the new Willard's father. All three of these are rather good
horror films really; most horror films about rats are not merely insulting
to rats but insulting to filmmaking. One of the worst rat movies of all
time RATS: NIGHT OF TERROR is a foreign low-budget loser about bikers who
arrive in a rat-infested post-holocaust town, & rats keep falling on them
& the biker's die horrible bad-acting deaths. It's just so amazingly
stupid.

Another stinky but not bad intended film is RAT BOY about a half-rat
half-human found in a garbage dump who gets exploited. The movie was dumb
enough, but the make-up for rat-boy's face was so badly done it's just
impossible to take him seriously as a character.

There's a feature length cartoon about BASIL OF BAKERSTREET, the detective
mouse that lives in the wall of Holmes' apartment, solving a criminal
conspiracy of the rats & of a big fat kitty which is the chief
rat-villain's pet. It's no SECRETS OF NIMH but it's amusing.

Sub-average cheezy horror film FOOD OF THE GODS (I & II) pretending to be
based on H. G. Wells' story features giant monster rats terrible special
effects. Other third-rate horror films about how scary rats include DEADLY
EYES, GRAVEYARD SHIFT, and HUNCHBACK OF THE MORGUE. Several films are
titled RATS, most of them not actually about rats, but one in 1982 turned
out to be the same film as DEADLY EYES, which is pretty "ordinary" horror
fare but enjoyable if you like ordinary horror fare; & a brand new 2003
video release also called RATS is set in an insane asylum with
flesh-eating rats running amuck, very stupid with laughable special
effects. Another recent horror film THE RATS was a cable move but now on
video, about rats that got into some bad chemicals & became super-rats
taking over a department store & threatening to spread from there to the
rest of New York city, it is very much like MIMIC but with rats instead of
bugs.  I've never yet seen THE RATS ARE COMING! THE WEREWOLVES ARE HERE!
but is reportedly nowhere near as witty as the title.

A good one is OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN starring Peter Weller as a man outwitted
by a very big very clever rat, a sinister & funny horror film that should
be more famous than it is. It was remade as the totally comic MOUSETRAP
with a little mouse instead of a big rat, but OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN is by far
the better film without a tenth of the budget.

I wish I could remember the name of the short cartoon about a man who
moved into a house that had a huge female rat living in it. It is a
wonderful cartoon, I think from Canada. The guy tries everything to kill
the rat, but she perceives the bear-trap as a necklace present & wears it
safely, she accepts the poison bits as candy bonbons & they don't hurt
her, she becomes convinced the man is madly in love with her, & she's been
so very lonely & begins to try to seduce him. The man is lonely too so
they end up making love & living happily ever after. It's the finniest
damn rat film ever made, but I saw it as a "filler" piece at a film
festival & never heard anything of it since.

-paghat the ratgirl loves movies

> > -David
>
> There's a movie called 'Rat' set in Ireland starring Pete Postlethwaite as a
> man who turns into a rat.  It's not the best movie, but there's a few funny
> scenes like when the rat is enjoying a pint of guinness at the local pub.
> Take a look at this link for more info   http://www.rat-themovie.com/

I enjoyed that film. It was a silly idea & they did not overcome the
silliness of it, but I got a kick out of it even so.

> Does anybody know whether the new Willard movie ever came to UK as I'd like
> to see that.  I've never seen it advertised at cinemas and have never seen
> it in the video shop.
>
> Tracey

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J&S Bouchard - 24 Nov 2003 17:42 GMT
> > > Greetings,
> > > I have found an old movie at our local public library called "Ben".
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>
: http://www.paghat.com/

Have you seen a cute little movie called "I was a rat". A rat turns into a
little boy. He used to belong to the princess. It's English with Tom Conti
as the man along with his wife "cares" for the boy/rat.
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paghat - 25 Nov 2003 04:50 GMT
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> > "BEN" was the sequel to "WILLARD," which was recently remade, both
> > versions are fun to see. The remake is supposed to be about the son of the
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> little boy. He used to belong to the princess. It's English with Tom Conti
> as the man along with his wife "cares" for the boy/rat.

I never heard of that one & just checked to see if I could get it from
NetFlix, but they don't have it.  NetFlix does have OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN
however. NetFlix also has a DVD of the telefilm RATZ which is on the top
of my list with them, probably will have it next week. It sounds like
it'll be silly but Iwatch everything about rats even if its juvenile:
teenage girls change their pet rats into hunky boyfriends & have
adventures.

An early Disney short silent film ALICE RATTLED BY RATS is about a drunken
cat & rebellious dancing ratties.  There are many versions of THE WIND IN
THE WILLOWS but one with live-action instead of animation stars Eric Idle
as the river rat. It wasn't brilliant, but it was very enjoyable. There
are many versions both live-action & animated of THE PIED PIPER, one
memorable one I saw at a film festival was checklosovakian, animated
carved walnut figures, very beautiful & strange. The Teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtles were taught martial arts by a wise old rat.

Of kiddy movies  A RAT'S TALE (1997/8, aka The Story of Monty) from
Germany is a rather awesome fairy tale. It is about a rats & their
good-buddy alligator trying to survive a developer's attempt to
exterminate them. Rats are heroic, humans are bad. It's played by
marionettes & live actors together; extremely charming though aimed young,
based on a children's book.

The 1995 telefilm BURIAL OF THE RATS is about a cult of sexy amazons with
an army of flesh-eating rats, intentionally goofy & a bit of fun, I think
it was originally made-for-cable. RODENTZ (aka ALTERED SPECIES) is a very
bad film about giant mutant rats. Of SOMEwhat related interest, there's
also one about giant rabbits, NIGHT OF THE LEPUS; I saw it so long ago I
barely remember it, but stuff happens like the rabbits waylaying trucks to
get shipments of canned carrots, but it's not supposed to be funny --
there are big build-ups for the monsters & when they appear, they're just
big cud-chewing bunnies. A film I've never been able to find a copy of is
RAT MAN about a half-rat half-monkey, played by a small person in what
sounds like perhaps the most humiliating little-person role of all time.
It was made in France.

Minor rats: the two Eddy Murphy versions of DR DOOLITTLE have alley-rats
but not nearly as well treated as in the Doolittle books, one volume is
primarily about the rats & much more favorable than the films. CREEPAZOIDS
is a post-holocaust film with a rat antagonist.  In DAYLIGHT rats show
Sylvester Stallone the way out of the tunnels. There are rats throughout
Francis Ford Copolla's DRACULA & at one point Dracula even turns into a
pile of cgi rats. In FROM DUSK TO DAWN a vampire turns into a big rat in
one brief scene. (Rats in vampire films would be a big list but they're so
far never the stars.)

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Tracey - 25 Nov 2003 15:42 GMT
We used to have a programme here in UK called 'Tales from the Riverbank.'
It was a children's tv programme made in the seventies (I think).  It had
real animals in it such as hamsters, rabbits and rats and they all went on a
different adventure each week.  I actually saw a video with three episodes
of the series on it for sale at a cheap book shop round here last year and
bought it for my fiance's daughter as she was here visiting at the time.
She thought it was marvellous as she loves rodents and loves nothing more
than cuddling with my ratties.  She actually asked her mum for a pet rat
after her hamster died but her mum hates them and refused.  She told her she
can have any pet she likes but not rats.  Typical!

Tracey
paghat - 25 Nov 2003 16:31 GMT
> We used to have a programme here in UK called 'Tales from the Riverbank.'
> It was a children's tv programme made in the seventies (I think).  It had
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>
> Tracey

This Canadian show has existed since 1959. It's still on, presently called
"Once Upon A Hamster."  Hammy's best friend is Martha Mouse, who in the
past has always been played by a white rat, but is presently played by a
fawn hooded rat. I got rid of cable as a time-waster  &  get NetFlix
movies instead, so can't watch it Hammy & Martha anymore. Locally it was
aired at three in the morning, a very stupid time-spot for a show aimed at
pre-schoolers, but I suppose it's lucky Canadian children's television is
carried is carried down here at all. The show has a website:
http://www.hammyhamster.com/

-paghat

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"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
  -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
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J&S Bouchard - 25 Nov 2003 18:05 GMT
> This Canadian show has existed since 1959. It's still on, presently called
> "Once Upon A Hamster."  Hammy's best friend is Martha Mouse, who in the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> -paghat

Oh my god... you just brought back a flood of memories. I used to watch this
show all the time when I was young...
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Watcher - 28 Nov 2003 07:33 GMT
Yikes, do you remember it, too, Joanne?  Mr. Hammy Hamster and that guinea
pig, whatever his name was, who sounded like W.C. Fields!  Ahhh.... fine
days those were!

Y.

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O nobil demis trux
Sum es causen summit dux
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> > This Canadian show has existed since 1959. It's still on, presently called
> > "Once Upon A Hamster."  Hammy's best friend is Martha Mouse, who in the
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> j-s.b@nospamsympatico.ca
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paghat - 28 Nov 2003 08:21 GMT
> Yikes, do you remember it, too, Joanne?  Mr. Hammy Hamster and that guinea
> pig, whatever his name was,

His name was (err, is) simply GP (GeePee).

> who sounded like W.C. Fields!  Ahhh.... fine
> days those were!
>
> Y.

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