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let me get this straight--rats have feeble immune systems?

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belt - 25 Nov 2003 10:12 GMT
It never crossed my mind till I was wondering about all the posts about rat
medication.  So, I looked at the gov't  and lab documents about the care and
handling of lab rats.

Seems to me that rats are used in the labs cause of their docility and their
ability to be susceptable to just about any illness and posion, (and
quickly).  Is this about right?

I have to say--this rat is about the most affectionate pet I've ever had.
My mother still has a dog that we always considered 'human' because she
acted like on from puppyhood till the present day, (10 yrs old now)--even
sleeps in a bed like a person with head on a pillow and body under the
covers.

but she never was as afffectonate and responsive as this lil' theif of mine.

so, --they are suceptable to just about everything?  Well, guess this is as
good a reason as I can get for quitting smoking.

--Belt
Tracey - 25 Nov 2003 15:23 GMT
> It never crossed my mind till I was wondering about all the posts about rat
> medication.  So, I looked at the gov't  and lab documents about the care and
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>
> --Belt

That's right and people who don't know about pet rats assume they must be
hardy little creatures ammune to most illnesses and disease because they
think of sewer rats and how well they live and thrive in all the squalor and
germs of sewerage.  People are always surprised when I tell them how often
rats take ill.  They are certainly not the cheapest small pet when it comes
to the old vets bills.

Dogs and rats - you can't beat 'em in my opinion, I'm the biggest lover of
both.  Rats are wonderfully affectionate aren't they?  Another thing that
amazes non-ratty people.  I've had many friends turn their noses up at the
idea of pet rats but soon change their minds after meeting my boys...

Hey, go for the quitting smoking - what better reason, as you say, than for
the sake of little ratty's lungs and just think how much money you'll save
:o)

Tracey
J&S Bouchard - 25 Nov 2003 15:36 GMT
> That's right and people who don't know about pet rats assume they must be
> hardy little creatures ammune to most illnesses and disease because they
> think of sewer rats and how well they live and thrive in all the squalor and
> germs of sewerage.

And, in reality, the average life span of a "wild" rat is only 9 months so
they aren't hardy at all...
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Susan Aplin - 25 Nov 2003 16:57 GMT
Hi everyone,
Talking of wild rats i thought i would mention this.We have had a wild rat
living in our garden for some time now and although i wasn't happy with it
(considering all the  diseases they are supposed to carry)i would never ever
dream of harming it.The trouble is that now  he has started burrowing into
my neighbours garden and they have a little boy.They are concerned about it
which i fully understand but they want to put down rat pellets to kill it.I
have never got this 'kill everything that we don't like' attitude but  i do
understand their worries about their son.I have been trying to get hold of a
'humane trap' so that i can release it somewhere safe but i can't find one
anywhere.Plenty of traps for mice but none for rats and he is quite big.Any
ideas?
Thanks
Sue x

> > That's right and people who don't know about pet rats assume they must be
> > hardy little creatures ammune to most illnesses and disease because they
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> j-s.b@nospamsympatico.ca
> remove "no spam"
Mark Thompson - 25 Nov 2003 18:00 GMT
> Hi everyone,
> Talking of wild rats i thought i would mention this.We have had a wild rat
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> anywhere.Plenty of traps for mice but none for rats and he is quite big.Any
> ideas?

Wouldn't it be easier to catch the child and release that somewhere safe?
Tell his parents that the rat'll be much more affectionate than a teenager.
Susan Aplin - 25 Nov 2003 18:08 GMT
Hi Mark,
You know,i thought about doing that but i am sure there is a law against it
somewhere ; )
Sue x
> > Hi everyone,
> > Talking of wild rats i thought i would mention this.We have had a wild rat
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> Wouldn't it be easier to catch the child and release that somewhere safe?
> Tell his parents that the rat'll be much more affectionate than a teenager.
J&S Bouchard - 25 Nov 2003 18:33 GMT
> > Hi everyone,
> > Talking of wild rats i thought i would mention this.We have had a wild rat
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Wouldn't it be easier to catch the child and release that somewhere safe?
> Tell his parents that the rat'll be much more affectionate than a teenager.

ROFLMAO!!! I thought about this too...
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Kate - 26 Nov 2003 01:34 GMT
BRILLIANT !!!!   LMAO....
> > Hi everyone,
> > Talking of wild rats i thought i would mention this.We have had a wild rat
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Wouldn't it be easier to catch the child and release that somewhere safe?
> Tell his parents that the rat'll be much more affectionate than a teenager.
Tracey - 26 Nov 2003 09:26 GMT
> Wouldn't it be easier to catch the child and release that somewhere safe?
> Tell his parents that the rat'll be much more affectionate than a teenager.

What a top idea!!!  LOL!

Tracey
Tracey - 25 Nov 2003 18:23 GMT
> Hi everyone,
> Talking of wild rats i thought i would mention this.We have had a wild rat
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks
> Sue x

Sue, I've never actually seen humane rat traps in any shops but there are
several places to buy them on-line.  Here's a few links:

http://www.harrodhorticultural.com/p_pest.html
http://members.madasafish.com/~cj_whitehound/Rats_Nest/Merchandise.htm
http://www.trap-man.com/rat-trap-multi-catch-humane-rat-trap.htm
http://www.queenswood.co.uk/acatalog/index2.html?http%3A//www.queenswood.co.
uk/acatalog/Humane_Traps.html&CatalogBody

Tracey
Susan Aplin - 25 Nov 2003 18:53 GMT
Hi  Tracey,
Thanks for that info.I hope i have enough time to order one and catch the
little bugger before they put the pellets down next door.I am going to ask
them to give me a week to try it my way - they are nice people but not very
'animal minded'.
I hope you received my reply to your lovely e-mail.I will keep in touch.
Thanks
Suex

> > Hi everyone,
> > Talking of wild rats i thought i would mention this.We have had a wild rat
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> http://members.madasafish.com/~cj_whitehound/Rats_Nest/Merchandise.htm
> http://www.trap-man.com/rat-trap-multi-catch-humane-rat-trap.htm

http://www.queenswood.co.uk/acatalog/index2.html?http%3A//www.queenswood.co.
> uk/acatalog/Humane_Traps.html&CatalogBody
>
> Tracey
Mark Thompson - 25 Nov 2003 22:21 GMT
> Thanks for that info.I hope i have enough time to order one and catch the
> little bugger before they put the pellets down next door.I am going to ask
> them to give me a week to try it my way - they are nice people but not very
> 'animal minded'.

Tell 'em that this way we'll know we've got all the little critters.  Using
the pellets you can never be sure....
Kate - 26 Nov 2003 01:35 GMT
This may be a dumb question I don't know...but wouldn't putting pellets down
risk hurting neighbourhood cats...??... ( not to mention poor Rattie).
> Hi  Tracey,
> Thanks for that info.I hope i have enough time to order one and catch the
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> > http://members.madasafish.com/~cj_whitehound/Rats_Nest/Merchandise.htm
> > http://www.trap-man.com/rat-trap-multi-catch-humane-rat-trap.htm

http://www.queenswood.co.uk/acatalog/index2.html?http%3A//www.queenswood.co.
> > uk/acatalog/Humane_Traps.html&CatalogBody
> >
> > Tracey
J&S Bouchard - 26 Nov 2003 02:53 GMT
> This may be a dumb question I don't know...but wouldn't putting pellets down
> risk hurting neighbourhood cats...??... ( not to mention poor Rattie).

Not a dumb question but the answer is yes... will harm kitties and doggies,
maybe not kill them but hurt them for sure.
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Tracey - 26 Nov 2003 09:39 GMT
> This may be a dumb question I don't know...but wouldn't putting pellets down
> risk hurting neighbourhood cats...??... ( not to mention poor Rattie).

And any other wildlife, such as foxes, hedgehogs & badgers, that may wander
into a garden at night?  Guess some people don't really care about that so
long as they get rid of 'the vermin'.

Tracey
Tracey - 26 Nov 2003 09:34 GMT
> Hi  Tracey,
> Thanks for that info.I hope i have enough time to order one and catch the
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> Thanks
> Suex

Yes I did Sue, thanks,  I'm a bit behind on my emails so that's why I
haven't replied yet!

I hope your neighbours are willing to wait a little til you get the trap.
Good luck with persuading them!

Tracey
Scot McDermid - 26 Nov 2003 14:54 GMT
> Hi everyone,
> Talking of wild rats i thought i would mention this.We have had a wild rat
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> anywhere.Plenty of traps for mice but none for rats and he is quite big.Any
> ideas?

There are traps for cats.  That would certainly be big enough.
 
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