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Pet Forum / Mammals / Rats / April 2004gonad removal
Hi All, Well I have decided that after being bit by Teddy again while cleaning the cage that it is time for testicles to come off. But if Teddy is the dominant one and he is snipped will this make the next dominant one aggressive and the whole biting process starts again. They are all 5 months old and have formed their hierarchy Teddy being the dominant, Badger being next and the pig of them all and lovely Stuart such a sweet loveable chap. So what is the answer do I just chop Teddy or do I do all 3. The Vet says he would like to see them all and then decide but I would like an answer from the people who know and love them not just someone who treats them when they ill. Thanks Jackie > Hi All, > Well I have decided that after being bit by Teddy again while cleaning the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks > Jackie Being a biter is not because of dominance, it's in the genes. If Teddy is biting because of territory, this may not stop with neutering. Here's a few things you can try before the surgery: when Teddy comes near you to bite, turn him over on his back and scratch between his paws. This will show him that you are dominant. If you are not able to flip him over, then pinch him between the shoulder blades and hang on all the while saying: a firm "NO". Hold him there for about 5 seconds. He's going to be very very unhappy about being held, not because you are hurting him but because you are being dominant over him. He will then calm down, let him go and talk softly to him, even try to pet him, if he lets you. He will be very confused at this point. You may only need to do this about 5 times before he realizes, you are the boss and not him. If with all that, he still bites and causes havoc with cagemates, then it's time to consider surgery. I hope this helps!!!!  SignatureJoanne Mom to 12 rats http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 j-s.b@nospamsympatico.ca remove "no spam" > Being a biter is not because of dominance, it's in the genes. > If Teddy is biting because of territory, this may not stop with [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > causes havoc with cagemates, then it's time to consider surgery. I > hope this helps!!!! Hi Jackie, Stand in front of the mirror and repeat after me: I am alpha rat! I AM ALPHA RAT! I *AM* ALPHA RAT!! Now Go Girl :-) > > Being a biter is not because of dominance, it's in the genes. > > If Teddy is biting because of territory, this may not stop with [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Now Go Girl :-) Also known as: Heeee ee heee ee! SignatureJoanne Mom to 12 rats http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 j-s.b@nospamsympatico.ca remove "no spam" > Hi All, > Well I have decided that after being bit by Teddy again while cleaning [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks > Jackie Please don't do this unless you really really have to. I have been told (by a breader, so I expect it's good advice) that the snip-snip is not as straight forward as it seems (despite the pillows themselves appearing in Birmingham whilst the owner is in Rugby). Apparently, there is a small but significant risk of severe complications. Show your ratty that you're boss: Try some power grooming and snack feeding, cuddles and free range time. SignatureRegards, Dave dave_ryman@hotmailNOSPAM.com http://welcome.to/daves.website http://travel.to/formula.one >> Hi All, >> Well I have decided that after being bit by Teddy again while cleaning [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >boss: Try some power grooming and snack feeding, cuddles and free range >time. there is always risk with anesthesia and surgery, but not so much that i would avoid surgery in a healthy animal because of it. you'll want to make sure the vet is competent and experienced with rats, of course, as the surgery is a little different than cats/dogs. i have had good results with neutering two aggressive boys when they were young, and lesser but still noticible results with neutering an aggressive older boy (he was 16 months i think at the time and had been aggressive since he came into my home at nine months of age. he still is a little bitey but he can live peacefully with another rat now, which is a big change.) --- "what does my body have to do with my gratitude?" (ani d) http://shattering.org > Please don't do this unless you really really have to. I have been told > (by a breader, so I expect it's good advice) that the snip-snip is not as [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > boss: Try some power grooming and snack feeding, cuddles and free range > time. Depending on vet and clinic, a neuter is not as high risk it used to be. My sister just had her 11 girls spayed with no complications. A spay is much more invasive then a neuter. I had my Chase neutered and it did a world of good. My mom had her rat Pinto spayed as well, although she still has to be careful going into the cage (his territory) but now he no longer bites the hoomins outside the cage. Inside the cage, you just have to move slowly and reassure Pinto that you are not there to destroy his place. SignatureJoanne Mom to 12 rats http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 j-s.b@nospamsympatico.ca remove "no spam" >Hi All, >Well I have decided that after being bit by Teddy again while cleaning the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Thanks >Jackie While looking for something else, I just happened to run across some interesting info about chemical "castration" with Tardak: http://www.cyberratty.co.uk/tardak.html Here's something from the group archives on Google about its use too: http://tinyurl.com/28b8s Might be worth trying, if possible. As the author on Cyberratty says, it if doesn't help, then neutering probably wouldn't either. SignatureMariette <:3 )3~~ <:3 )3~~ <:3 )3~~ http://community.webshots.com/user/wabewawa (wabewawa61-at-earthlink-dot-net) |
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