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Writer - 21 Apr 2004 21:09 GMT
How can I determine the age of my newest rat. When I got him he had not
dropped his testicles (that was on Saturday last), but within 24 hours after
I introduced him to my current rat, Stewart, his testicles dropped.

Stewart has been showing classic dominance over Caramel since this happened.
He is also spending allot of time grooming Caramel. Is this normal behavior
for rats when they first meet?

I'm new at this so I am trying to learn as much as I can. Any help would be
appreciated.

Cheryl

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Anti_Freak_Machine - 22 Apr 2004 01:35 GMT
> Stewart has been showing classic dominance over Caramel since this happened.
> He is also spending allot of time grooming Caramel. Is this normal behavior
> for rats when they first meet?

From what I've seen, they either fight for dominance (usually doesn't
last long unless they are evenly matched) or they move to the next phase
which is "Ok, he is in charge, so I'll let him do whatever the hell he
wants to me." I always took that as a sign that they were bonding.  I
should also note that I have seen less dominant males groom the dominant
males regularly, so maybe it is more of a "bonding" thing.  I gave up
trying to understand them when I realized they were smarter than me ;)

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Ollie - 22 Apr 2004 04:19 GMT
How delightful that one is grooming the other.  This is all normal and its
just Stewart asserting himself and Boss..:))  Hope all is well with your new
additions to your family.

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> How can I determine the age of my newest rat. When I got him he had not
> dropped his testicles (that was on Saturday last), but within 24 hours after
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> Cheryl
«. .» - 22 Apr 2004 12:57 GMT
> How can I determine the age of my newest rat.

If he still has a full coat of fluffy baby hair, he's almost certainly under
5 weeks old.

The baby coat starts to be lost at around 4-5 weeks, starting on the tummy,
working its way up the sides (can look like a horizontal tide-mark where the
new shinier fur is growing in!) and finally finishes on the top of the head
and the base of the tail at about 6-7 weeks.

Any rat with a full coat of shiny sleek fur is likely to be over 7 weeks.
(With the possible exception of stunted babies from badly nourished litters,
who may be a little slower to moult).

Another guide is that the tail on a baby aged 4 weeks seems shorter in
proportion to an older rat, and they have a "mouse" like look.

Other than that it's not easy to guesstimate age, although a baby rat nearer
3-4 months may have longer nails than one under, say, 8 weeks.

Sue
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pendragon fancy rats & rare breed rabbits
Portsmouth, England, UK
www.pendragonrats.co.uk
Writer - 22 Apr 2004 18:48 GMT
> > How can I determine the age of my newest rat.
>
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> Portsmouth, England, UK
> www.pendragonrats.co.uk

Caramel still is the fluffy baby. His fur has not started to change yet, but
his tummy fur is beginning to get sleeker. So I figure he is around 5 weeks
from what you describe. Stewart was the same size and had the same type coat
when we got him 2 and a half weeks ago, so this doesn't make him that much
older than Caramel.

How big will my boys get? I just want to make sure the cage I have is going
to be big enough for them. I can't afford a new one right away but I am one
of those people that hate to see animals cooped up in cages that are too
small and that are never let out to play. Both of them are with me most of
the day, but I will be starting back to work soon so they will be spending
much more time in the cage and I just want them to feel comfortable and be
happy ratties.

Cheryl
«. .» - 23 Apr 2004 09:33 GMT
> How big will my boys get? I just want to make sure the cage I have is going
> to be big enough for them.

Well, that can vary, but bucks generally are fairly big rats.  They grow
quite fast too - I have a young lad aged 15 weeks, who weighs 15 ounces
(423g), and another aged about 11 weeks who tips the scales at 14 ounces
(397g). Both of these are from breeding lines which produce big-boned, heavy
boys, though - so yours may not grow so large so quickly.

Fully grown, most boys fall between 1 pound to 1 pound 9 ounces (450 -
700g), although some can weigh as much as 2 pounds/900g!. One of my older
boys, who will be a year old in June, weighs 1 pound 4 ounces (567g), which
is fairly average.

If you want a guide to how big a cage to get, consult the Cage Calculator
here:
http://www.fancy-rats.co.uk/information/habitat/cagecalculator/index.php
Bear in mind that adult bucks, although larger, are far less energetic and
active than girls!

Sue & the Pendragons
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pendragon fancy rats & rare breed rabbits
Portsmouth, England, UK
www.pendragonrats.co.uk
 
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