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Writer - 24 Apr 2004 03:27 GMT
Hi all,

I know most of you are experienced rat owners, but I'm just a new rat mom of
one month and I am so surprised at the fun I am having with Stewart and
Caramel. Stewart has turned into a love bug. He loves to cuddle and crawl
all over me. It just amazes me that he could be that attached to me. When I
go into my daughter's room he will run to one of the cage doors and beg to
be let out. and when I do get him out, he just cuddles and curls up with me.

Caramel, on the other hand, is much younger and skittish. He wants out of
the cage but is more active than Stewart and tends to cuddle only when I rub
his ears or cheeks. He is also much more verbal. He squeaks and chitters
more than Stewart. And he has learned to use the rat wheel in the cage.
Stewart never has paid much attention to it. When Caramel is on the wheel,
Stewart will run over and knock him off. A slight tussle usually ensues and
Caramel will retreat to his macaroni box I put on the second level of their
house. They seem to have come to an agreement as to who is boss.

I am finding so much enjoyment in the two of them. I think I am as hooked on
rats as I am on dogs. Actually, I bought my home so I could keep my dogs,
now I find I am thinking of ways to turn my guest room into a rattie room.
Do our animals rule us or are we just suckers for cute furry faces? ;-))

Cheryl

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J&S Bouchard - 24 Apr 2004 04:25 GMT
> Hi all,
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> Cheryl

Hi Cheryl, you are one of many that get hooked  on rats. There really isn't
one particular thing that reels you in and suckers you out of everything for
these darlings. When I started caring for rats, I knew this was the pet for
me. I can't quite describe that special feeling they bring to my life.
I'm so glad you found your way to rats, looked past their horrible
reputation and got to meet the real pet rat. They are intelligent, wise,
caring, loving and so much more...  I will never be without rats. :)
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Mariette - 24 Apr 2004 04:40 GMT
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>Cheryl

This reminds me:  Do most people find that the alphas or more dominant
rats are the ones most likely to be cuddly/licky?  I know that as
males age, they all tend to get more cuddly in general, but I've found
that the ones at the top of the heirarchy or closer to it seem to have
more of a sense of self-esteem/comfort that allows them to be more
close to humans.  Or is that just an isolated thing for me, with the
very few that I've been acquainted with?

Actually, Cheryl, you'll find a lot of rat people comparing them to
dogs in terms of their intelligence, loyalty, affection for people,
etc.  Such a neat bundle of animal in such a little package, aren't
they?  :)

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Mark Tomlinson - 24 Apr 2004 05:33 GMT
I find that the Alpha rats seem to bond closer to humans as well.  I think
everyone needs someone to look up to, someone to care for them.  And the
Alphas find that special someone in their human companions.  But I've also
found that the low guy on the totem pole also bonds with people better than
the middle guys.

My two closest where an Alpha, Otis, and old bruiser who ruled with an iron
fist, and Stevie, a little guy who suffered from a nerve disorder so that he
couldn't walk in a straight line by the time he passed.  Otis became very
close to me after his brother Jack died.  He would sit in my lap and fall
asleep as if this was the only place he could find peace.  Stevie knew I
would hold him still so the shaking would stop.  And he never hesitated to
show me he appreciated it by grooming me or cuddling into my neck.

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> This reminds me:  Do most people find that the alphas or more dominant
> rats are the ones most likely to be cuddly/licky?  I know that as
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> etc.  Such a neat bundle of animal in such a little package, aren't
> they?  :)
Mariette - 24 Apr 2004 07:21 GMT
>I find that the Alpha rats seem to bond closer to humans as well.  I think
>everyone needs someone to look up to, someone to care for them.  And the
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>would hold him still so the shaking would stop.  And he never hesitated to
>show me he appreciated it by grooming me or cuddling into my neck.

That's so wonderful, your description of Otis finding so much comfort
with you after losing his brother and how Stevie found someone like
you to help him through his disability.

With our fuzzies, Noli, the low guy, is still a bit skittish, but he's
just recently started coming around to being a rather kissy/grooming
rat, like my old buddy, Cinnamon (I just love licky rats!).  The
now-Alpha guy, Cocoa, was previously rather skittish/flinchy also when
Cinnamon was still around, who was the Alpha then and Cocoa the
under-rat.  Now Cocoa has become the main cuddlebug since attaining
his Alpha status ... and turning into a big old squishy fluff (hard to
believe it's the same little guy that reminded us of a mouse, almost,
with his coloring and hyper-ness when we first got him, charming us
with his efforts to get to us through the side of the aquarium at the
store).  

The Alpha II (not really Beta, I would say, but just an Alpha in
waiting), Momo, is likely going to be just as, if not more, cuddly
when he reaches his senior years too, I'm pretty sure (he's also
about the most intelligent rat I've ever met, a brilliant strategist
at finding his way to getting what he wants and where he wants
to go, which also makes me rather partial to him, in addition to his
major attachment to us).

I think it's interesting how with some change in their dominance/
position in the heirarchy (i.e., Cocoa going from being lowest on the
totem pole to now the top), there's also been a change in this aspect.
Though that is partly affected by Cocoa's getting older, I do feel
that it's largely related to an increasing sense of self-esteem that
he's acquired with that change now, too.

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Tracey - 27 Apr 2004 12:18 GMT
<snip> And he never hesitated to show me he appreciated it by grooming me or
cuddling into my neck.

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> Mark Tomlinson
> "I'm not a trouble maker; I am a catalyst for change."

Isn't it the best feeling when you are sitting there relaxing, watching tv
or whatever, with a rat snuggling into your neck :o)

Tracey
Ollie - 27 Apr 2004 23:43 GMT
I'll let you know when I ever experience it...LMAO  this lot can't sit still
at all..:))  Too many things to be dragged under and into the sofa to be
worried about cuddles..:))

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Tracey - 28 Apr 2004 11:00 GMT
> I'll let you know when I ever experience it...LMAO  this lot can't sit still
> at all..:))  Too many things to be dragged under and into the sofa to be
> worried about cuddles..:))
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Hee hee!  Out of the eight rats I've had only two were like that, all the
others would much rather be/have been running round exploring and just don't
have time for mamsy pamsiness with mum :o(  I'm hoping the new baby ratlet
will become a bit of a lap/neck rat as he gets older, he's certainly showing
all the signs so far :o)

Tracey
Ollie - 29 Apr 2004 00:44 GMT
I am envious..:))  I would love a cuddle bun... sadly so far they have only
turned cuddly when they were about to depart..:((

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Ollie - 25 Apr 2004 23:04 GMT
LOL.. Pets don't have owners they have staff...:)and I know for sure that
they rule the roost too..

Regards Kate

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Tracey - 27 Apr 2004 12:26 GMT
> Hi all,
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> Don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die.
> Adopt a stray and save a life.

Dogs and rats... for me, there's nothing quite like them. They are both very
addictive aren't they - once you have known the wonder of these creatures,
it's hard to be without them.

Tracey
 
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