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Pet Forum / Mammals / Rats / April 2004Baytril
Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that isn't too well, we aren't sure what it is. The only signs that something is wrong, is that he's loosing weight. I've taken him to the vets and have been given Baytril. The only problem is, he won't take it out of the Syringe, and its almost impossible to get him to eat anything apart from things like porridge (rolled oats), or weetabix, basically things with dairy in them. Is that ok to give it too him, and does Baytril loose its effects if put in milk? John Covent Garden Hamstery http://groups.msn.com/hamsterhouse-/ http://community.webshots.com/album/117758077oAOpAH > Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that isn't too > well, we aren't sure what it is. The only signs that something is wrong, is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > http://groups.msn.com/hamsterhouse-/ > http://community.webshots.com/album/117758077oAOpAH Hi John, is your rattie old? They lose weight as they get really old. Try putting the baytril in Cool Whip, they'll most like love it. I'm sure it's ok to be the Baytril in dairy products. The only thing about milk, I've read some rats may be intolerant to it and cause them to have severe cramping. Keep us posted!  SignatureJoanne Mom to 12 rats http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 j-s.b@nospamsympatico.ca remove "no spam" > > Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that isn't > too [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > cause them to have severe cramping. > Keep us posted! Hi Joanne, I live in the UK, can I ask what is Cool Whipp? I have only put less than half a teaspoon in the mix. I'll try to find something different to put in from now on. Its been really hard, as he wont take much else. He is one of the two boys I had rescued at 6 weeks old. The ones in the pictures I put up not ;long ago They are barely 5 months old. Both myself and the vet are puzzled by this. The only thing he's still got is some slight Porphyrin, no other signs. His chest is clear, he's not sneezing. Just gone off his food. His brother is doing ok, I think at the moment anyway. It was strange, I got them weighed about 3 weeks ago, and one was 300g (this ones loosing weight) and the other was 315g. (sorry, not sure what that is in Ounces) Got him weighed again, and he's not down to 285g, that's 15g in three weeks. Really odd. His stools are ok, his fur looks ok, too. In the back of my mind, I'm thinking there may be a tumour somewhere. I hope not. Thanks for your help, I'll keep you posted. John. > > > Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that isn't > > too [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > John. He's losing weight fast and he's too young to be losing weight. I would buy Nutrical or something like that, whatever it may be called in UK, just checked and you have what's called Ferretvite, high protein nutrition for sick animals. This should help. Does he play, is he active still? Does his cagemate allow him to go eat? Cool Whip is like a whipped cream, do you have Dream Whip? You can also use yogurt. My guys really like the blueberry yogurt. SignatureJoanne Mom to 12 rats http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 j-s.b@nospamsympatico.ca remove "no spam" > > > > Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that > isn't [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > Cool Whip is like a whipped cream, do you have Dream Whip? You can also use > yogurt. My guys really like the blueberry yogurt. Is it like Angel Delight? Rosemary > > > > > Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that > > isn't [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > > Rosemary Ah I know what Angel Delight is. I will try to get some Yoghurt. He does play, and still loves to come out and play with me too. They do squabble, but its only for a couple of seconds, and that's it. Its like he just wants to sleep. I have never seen anything like this, even though I've only had them a couple of months, even my hamsters have never had anything like this happen. Now a stupid question, but is the Ferretvite something you get from the vet's or from a shop? Never heard of that before. Will keep a look out for it though. John. > Ah I know what Angel Delight is. I will try to get some Yoghurt. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > John. Mark's post says it all!! SignatureJoanne Mom to 12 rats http://community.webshots.com/user/joanneb70 j-s.b@nospamsympatico.ca remove "no spam" > He's losing weight fast and he's too young to be losing weight. I > would buy Nutrical or something like that, whatever it may be called > in UK, just checked and you have what's called Ferretvite, high > protein nutrition for sick animals. This should help. I second that. Ferretvite is especially designed to help 'em put more weight on fast, and has vitamins etc too. Angel delight, er, won't :-) (but anything's better than nothing). Ferretvite comes in what looks like an absolutely HUGE toothpast tube, and costs (I think) £7-8 ish, but because it's so concentrated it should last ages. Jolleys pet stores sell it if there's one near you, but any large pet shop should have it. It's designed for ferrets so a shop selling them should be a good bet. Failing that I guess it'll be getting the yellow pages out and looking there! One last thing, if you do track it down when you first feed it to the rat squidge a bit onto its nose - Ferretite doesn't seem to smell like food, but once they've tasted it they LOVE it! Good luck with the little critter. Mark > > He's losing weight fast and he's too young to be losing weight. I > > would buy Nutrical or something like that, whatever it may be called [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Mark Hey, thanks Mark and Joanne, I really appreciate that. John. > squidge a bit onto its nose For nose read mouth. I'm not sure rat would appreciate a loads of ferretvite jammed into its nostrils. > "J&S Bouchard" <j-s.b@nospamsympatico.ca> wrote in message > > Hi John, is your rattie old? They lose weight as they get really old. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Hi Joanne, > I live in the UK, can I ask what is Cool Whipp? An edible oil product that simulates whipped cream. -- To Email me remove All doubt. > Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that isn't too > well, we aren't sure what it is. The only signs that something is wrong, is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > (rolled oats), or weetabix, basically things with dairy in them. Is that ok > to give it too him, and does Baytril loose its effects if put in milk? When I was looking after two rats, one of them would lick Baytril from the syringe. For the other one, I put the Baytril on a little piece of bread. The rat ate up the bread, no problem. I also tried Kellogg's Rice Krispies. That also worked. >> Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that isn't >too [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >of bread. The rat ate up the bread, no problem. I also tried >Kellogg's Rice Krispies. That also worked. I was told by my vet to mix the Baytril in with their drinking water, 40 units per 100ml. The furry fellas seemed to spend more time at bottle than they did before I added the Baytril Howard, Dad to Wallace and Gromit http://community.webshots.com/user/gromitandwallace > Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that isn't too > well, we aren't sure what it is. The only signs that something is wrong, is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > http://groups.msn.com/hamsterhouse-/ > http://community.webshots.com/album/117758077oAOpAH Baytril is ok to use with dairy products. The other month I had one of my boys on baytril-doxy combo - doxycycline should not be mixed with dairy products, so I made some porridge up with just water and rattie liked it just as much as when made with milk. It was a real winner, I've never had a rat turn it down. Other foods they seem to eat when they don't have much of an appetite is mashed potato, scrambled eggs, soya yoghurts, baby foods and soups. Hope your little one is well again soon. Tracey > > Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that isn't > too [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Tracey I think things are progressing ok here, he no allows me to give him his medicine into his mouth, and its so much easier than trying to find something to tempt him with. He does seem to be getting better, the weight has stopped dropping off him, and he is moving around a lot more too. I'm still concerned though, as he doesn't seem himself. I'll keep you posted though, and let you know if anything else happens. John. > I think things are progressing ok here, he no allows me to give him his > medicine into his mouth, and its so much easier than trying to find [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > John It's certainly a lot easier if they will take their medicine like that. Glad to hear he is doing better. It'll probably take a few more days until he's back to normal. Sending the little guy well wishes to help him on his way to recovery :o) Tracey >Hi I wonder if somebody can give me some advice. I have a rat that isn't too >well, we aren't sure what it is. The only signs that something is wrong, is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >http://groups.msn.com/hamsterhouse-/ >http://community.webshots.com/album/117758077oAOpAH With our ratties, we mix the Baytril with neat Crusha: the liquid you use to make milkshakes. No milk, just baytril mixed with the Crusha. I mix it up in an egg cup and then dip my finger in. They then lick it off my finger.... willingly! Strawberry seems to be their favourite flavour ;-) Mark. SignatureIt may not be all the "Stuff" in the Universe that's important, it may be the spaces in between.... > With our ratties, we mix the Baytril with neat Crusha: the liquid you > use to make milkshakes. No milk, just baytril mixed with the Crusha. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Mark. I tried mixing anti-biotics with Strawberry Crusha a while back and the rats didn't like it! Picky little devils aren't they?! Tracey |
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