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Jackie Mullins - 20 Jun 2004 17:28 GMT
Badger seems to be scratching a lot lately Stuart and Teddy aren't. I have
had a look and can't see any mites or anything. Are they very small? can you
see them? What do they look like? Could it be anything else? They don't get
huge over protein food and there are no scabs.
Any suggestions.
Jackie
J&S Bouchard - 21 Jun 2004 01:09 GMT
> Badger seems to be scratching a lot lately Stuart and Teddy aren't. I have
> had a look and can't see any mites or anything. Are they very small? can you
> see them? What do they look like? Could it be anything else? They don't get
> huge over protein food and there are no scabs.
> Any suggestions.
> Jackie

Mites can not be seen with the eye. Lice you can see them, they look like
walking cigars.
If there are no scabs, then I wouldn't think it is mites.
Have you changed detergent lately? Anything new in the home?
One way to really see the scabs would be to give Badger a bath.
A bath would also help if Badger is producing too much sebum. (buck grease)
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Tracey - 22 Jun 2004 12:13 GMT
> > Badger seems to be scratching a lot lately Stuart and Teddy aren't. I have
> > had a look and can't see any mites or anything. Are they very small? can
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Quite a few people say mites can not be seen, but my ratties had mites a few
years ago and you could see them with the naked eye.  They were like very
tiny black dots crawling around, especially behind the ear area.  I had a
look at them under the microscope - eurgh!  They look like little monsters
magnified - eight stumpy legs and little fat bodies...gross.  Some mites
aren't visible to the naked eye, such as dust mites, but other mites such as
bird mites, mould/furniture mites, and mites found on ratties are.

Tracey
news - 22 Jun 2004 14:51 GMT
> > > Badger seems to be scratching a lot lately Stuart and Teddy aren't. I
> have
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> Tracey

Hi my boys had mites a couple of weeks ago. I discovered after doing some
research that rats have mites on them all the time, and it never bothers
them, until they developed an underlying problem, and then they cause
problems.

I found a really interesting website that gives explains all about the most
common mites

http://www.rmca.org/Articles/bugs.htm

I learnt quite a bit from this.

John.
Tracey - 23 Jun 2004 11:23 GMT
> Hi my boys had mites a couple of weeks ago. I discovered after doing some
> research that rats have mites on them all the time, and it never bothers
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> John.

Ah, so there are three types of mites that effect rats and one type can not
be seen by the naked eye, this is probably where the confusion about whether
you can see them or not arises from.  Interesting article.  Didn't like the
bit that said, "this one will attack humans"!!!

Tracey
Jackie Mullins - 23 Jun 2004 16:06 GMT
Well I have had a good old chinwag with a few vets in and around my area as
well as some breeders and have been told that we can use FRONTLINE SPRAY FOR
PUPPIES on rats for those nasty little mites and lice my usual vet has
looked into it for me and has been speaking to other colleagues in different
vet surgeries and they have a resounding success with this product. She said
that you spray a small amount in your hand about the size of a penny/cent
and then proceed to rub the fur the wrong way from the base of the tail
upwards and to the base of the neck, and then back down and then do the
process again. One of her colleagues has kept Rats for a number of years and
has found that because you can use it on puppies from 2 days old he has used
it for years, and also that it is cheaper in the long run for people who
know that their rats have mites etc. and after paying the vets to tell them
what they already know they then have to pay for prescription on top and it
becomes an expensive exercise. Hope you find this interesting.
Jackie

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> > Hi my boys had mites a couple of weeks ago. I discovered after doing some
> > research that rats have mites on them all the time, and it never bothers
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> Tracey
J&S Bouchard - 23 Jun 2004 17:11 GMT
> Well I have had a good old chinwag with a few vets in and around my area as
> well as some breeders and have been told that we can use FRONTLINE SPRAY FOR
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> becomes an expensive exercise. Hope you find this interesting.
> Jackie

This is great info Jackie!!! Thanks!!!
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Kate - 23 Jun 2004 23:49 GMT
Thanks for that info Jackie, I will have to see if that is available here.
That would be a lot less stressful than giving it orally..:)

Regards Kate
> Well I have had a good old chinwag with a few vets in and around my area as
> well as some breeders and have been told that we can use FRONTLINE SPRAY FOR
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> > Tracey
Tracey - 24 Jun 2004 11:25 GMT
> Well I have had a good old chinwag with a few vets in and around my area as
> well as some breeders and have been told that we can use FRONTLINE SPRAY FOR
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> becomes an expensive exercise. Hope you find this interesting.
> Jackie

Yes, thanks for that Jackie!  I'm going to save your above info for future
reference when my boys next get nasty critters bothering them.

Tracey
news - 25 Jun 2004 08:58 GMT
> > Well I have had a good old chinwag with a few vets in and around my area
> as
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> Tracey

Hi I have used frontline spray on my  cats, as I used to rescue a lot. If
you look on the instructions, it actually says its highly toxic, and to
apply, you need to use gloves. I would be very reluctant to use that on a
rat.

John.
Jackie Mullins - 25 Jun 2004 17:06 GMT
Well yes it is a toxic substance but then isn't most mite killing stuff and
you only put a small amount on your ratties you don not spray it into the
fur like cats and dogs. And also you will find that if you use it in the
same amount on your children's hair it will kill headlice. headlice stuff is
very expensive to but here and my doctor got fed up with his daughters
coming home with the little buggers, so he spoke to a toxicologist and he
said used sparingly just rubbed into the hair not the scalp can keep them at
bay for a couple of months at a time. But as with all medicines human or
animal there is always a risk that your animal can have an adverse reaction
to things. I suppose you have to way up the pros and cons.
Jackie

> > > Well I have had a good old chinwag with a few vets in and around my area
> > as
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> John.
news - 25 Jun 2004 18:35 GMT
wow, I'm surprised that your doctor suggested that. It only takes a small
amount of poison to do a rat harm. Personally I would not recommend it, but
if you feel its safe, then that's up to you.

> Well yes it is a toxic substance but then isn't most mite killing stuff and
> you only put a small amount on your ratties you don not spray it into the
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> > John.
Mark Thompson - 25 Jun 2004 13:23 GMT
> Interesting
> article.  Didn't like the bit that said, "this one will attack
> humans"!!!

Eeeek! - so can I use frontline on myself as well as the rat?
 
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