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Billy - 26 May 2005 05:28 GMT
Does anything reef-safe eat briopsis?

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Marc Levenson - 26 May 2005 09:36 GMT
Yes.

http://melevsreef.com/id/lettuce_nudibranch.html

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> Does anything reef-safe eat briopsis?

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Pszemol - 27 May 2005 00:33 GMT
> http://melevsreef.com/id/lettuce_nudibranch.html

Caution, it is very easy to loose these little guys in any pump intake...
Mine got sucked in even to the pump protected with a strainer.
Injured died in a couple of days. Very, very delicate creatures.
Billy - 27 May 2005 03:25 GMT
> Yes.
>
> http://melevsreef.com/id/lettuce_nudibranch.html

Have you ever had any long-term luck with them, marc? Every story I
hear about them ends in the death of the nudi after less than a year.
Pszemol - 27 May 2005 13:16 GMT
> Have you ever had any long-term luck with them, marc? Every story I
> hear about them ends in the death of the nudi after less than a year.

They don't live longer than a year, it is normal.
Tidepool Geek - 27 May 2005 19:09 GMT
>> http://melevsreef.com/id/lettuce_nudibranch.html
>
> Have you ever had any long-term luck with them, marc? Every story I hear
> about them ends in the death of the nudi after less than a year.
Hi Billy,

I think it would be a good idea to redefine what you mean by "long term
luck". The thing is that most sea slugs just don't live very long; a one
year life span is probably the most likely lifespan for a given species.
Very few species are longer lived than that and there are lots of species
that only live a few months. The species that Marc shows on his website
appears to be Elysia crispata and there are several references on the web
that indicate this is one of the 'one-year' species.

OTOH: There have been some successes in having these guys breed in home
aquaria. Reproductively speaking, sea slugs are some wild and crazy folks.
They are usually hermaphroditic and if you get two of them they WILL
fertilize each other and lay eggs (assuming that they're not already spawned
out). Further, there's actually a pretty good chance that the eggs will
survive to hatch. After that it's just a question of whether your pumping
system will destroy the larva or not.

You can find more info here:
http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=elyscris

Nomenclature trivia: Elysia crispata is a sea slug but it's NOT a
nudibranch. As I understand it, nudibranchs are by definition, carnivorous.
E. crispata is a member of the order Sacoglossa. Sacoglossans are
vegetarians that are characterized by having a specialized radular tooth
that they use to slit open the cells of the algae so that they can suck out
the protoplasm. In the case of Elysia spp. (and maybe some other
Sacoglossans as well) they have the capability of segregating the
chloroplasts from the rest of the cell contents and putting them to work
producing sugars for the slug's use. It is generally assumed that the frills
on E. crispata's back are there to increase the area available for
photosynthesis.

Herbivorously yours,

TPG
Billy - 27 May 2005 20:21 GMT
> I think it would be a good idea to redefine what you mean by "long
> term

Excellent info, thanks guys.
Marc Levenson - 31 May 2005 11:48 GMT
I bought 6 about 3 months ago, and have seen 1.5 of them
recently.  They do end up in pumps, overflows, down in the
refugium, on the glass and occasionally on the bryopsis.  LOL.

The good news is my bryopsis is less than it was before.
Not gone, but also not nearly as bad as it was.

Marc

>>Yes.
>>
>>http://melevsreef.com/id/lettuce_nudibranch.html
>
> Have you ever had any long-term luck with them, marc? Every story I
> hear about them ends in the death of the nudi after less than a year.

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bergzy - 28 May 2005 19:30 GMT
hey marc,

nice to see ya's on here too!  i just recently discovered this place.
Marc Levenson - 31 May 2005 11:47 GMT
I used to be far more regular here, but get buried with
emails and thread notifications from RC & DFWMAS.

Marc

> hey marc,
>
> nice to see ya's on here too!  i just recently discovered this place.

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