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Tank age question.

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Mark Cooper - 28 Apr 2006 01:04 GMT
I have seen mentioned online, specifically on wetwebmedia.com,
but also in google searches, that after a certain amount of
time it is a good idea to replace your live rock. Perhaps the
idea being that a significant portion of the beneficial fauna
and flora have died off.

On the other hand, I have read frequently that a tank takes as
much as a year to settle in and balance chemically.

If you switched out very much of your live rock, even if it
was cured, wouldn't you be upsetting the balance you worked so
long to achieve?

If you had a properly maintained system, with enough of a
cleaner crew, couldn't you run a tank indefinitely?

Thanks,
Mark

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Wayne Sallee - 28 Apr 2006 01:53 GMT
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Mark Cooper wrote on 4/27/2006 8:04 PM:
> I have seen mentioned online, specifically on wetwebmedia.com,
> but also in google searches, that after a certain amount of
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> Thanks,
> Mark
George Patterson - 28 Apr 2006 03:38 GMT
> If you had a properly maintained system, with enough of a
> cleaner crew, couldn't you run a tank indefinitely?

That's my belief. Methinks wetwebmedia is in the business of selling live rock
and is not real scrupulous about how they go about it. There's no reason why
your colonies of bacteria should die out after a few thousand generations in
your tank.

George Patterson
     Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
     your slightly older self.
Pszemol - 28 Apr 2006 04:04 GMT
> That's my belief. Methinks wetwebmedia is in the business of selling live rock
> and is not real scrupulous about how they go about it. There's no reason why
> your colonies of bacteria should die out after a few thousand generations in
> your tank.

If you think your live rocks is only inhabited by bacteria you are missing
a lot in the whole picture...
George Patterson - 29 Apr 2006 02:14 GMT
>> That's my belief. Methinks wetwebmedia is in the business of selling
>> live rock and is not real scrupulous about how they go about it.
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> If you think your live rocks is only inhabited by bacteria you are missing
> a lot in the whole picture...

No, I have a lot of other stuff living on or in mine. This is a reason to
replace it every so often?

George Patterson
     Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
     your slightly older self.
Pszemol - 28 Apr 2006 04:10 GMT
> If you had a properly maintained system, with enough of a
> cleaner crew, couldn't you run a tank indefinitely?

Unfortunatelly no. As you have read, populations of
micro-organisms inhabiting your live rock will diminish
over time. Mostly due to the lack of the environment
supporting reproduction and relativelly short live span
of animals living in and on the rocks... Also, many
animals compete with each other for food and space, so
when in the balance in the ocean, moved to a fish tank
this balance is easily broken and population crashes.
Our glass boxes with chopping powerheads are not
well forgiving for mostly planktonic larvae... and
compared to the ocean they are very poor in planktonic food.

One way to replenish your live rock fauna and flora
is to replace small amounts of rock at the time...
Instead of replacing whole rockwork just exchange
a rock or two every 6-8 months... This way you will not
detroy balance but have a chance intruducing new life.

Of course, here is another trouble: each addition of
live rock has a potential of being a source of infestation
of animals not considered beneficial, so it is kind of gamble.
TheRock - 28 Apr 2006 22:30 GMT
Is it that important that you need a new piece every 6 months ?

What about Live Sand ?
Garf Grunge ?
What about just keeping a refugium ?

There has got to be other ways to keep life going in your tank without
running out
and buying a piece of Dead Rock....Please say it ain't so Psz

This is interesting...never thought about this....

>> If you had a properly maintained system, with enough of a cleaner crew,
>> couldn't you run a tank indefinitely?
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> live rock has a potential of being a source of infestation
> of animals not considered beneficial, so it is kind of gamble.
Pszemol - 29 Apr 2006 05:45 GMT
> Is it that important that you need a new piece every 6 months ?
>
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>
> This is interesting...never thought about this....

If you know a way - tell me about it... I would like to know, too :-)
 
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