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Rid my tank of...2 yellow Damsels and a Pseudochromis

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TheRock - 04 Nov 2006 22:38 GMT
OK I have 2 yellow Damsels and a Pseudochromis
(the yellow one with the purple stripe going down the middle, nasty fish)
I HATE these fish.  I bought a fish trap, the canning jar one on
ebay...caught me some snails

I want to literally kill these fish, I've tried the feeding thing with the
net.
What else is there ?!?!  Can they be blinded by a laser pointer ?
Do they make little harpoon guns?   How about if I lace some food
with poison.  I actually am about a week away from taking everything out
and then putting it all back in minus 3 fish.

Oh god that poor 6 line wrasse I just dropped in there today !

Any suggestions ?

Chris
Wayne Sallee - 04 Nov 2006 23:44 GMT
Another trick is to go to the bait store, and get tiny
hooks, and go fishing for them.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets
Wayne@WaynesPets.com

TheRock wrote on 11/4/2006 4:38 PM:
> OK I have 2 yellow Damsels and a Pseudochromis
> (the yellow one with the purple stripe going down the middle, nasty fish)
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> Chris
TheRock - 05 Nov 2006 15:18 GMT
Ha !  I can imagine trying to snag one of those little guys.
That would be like trying to catch a fly with chopsticks !

> Another trick is to go to the bait store, and get tiny hooks, and go
> fishing for them.
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>> Chris
Bryan - 05 Nov 2006 16:15 GMT
Rock,

Your fish are hardy which means they can handle a couple of days + without
food.  If your fish are desperate enough they will go in the trap.  Go a day
without feeding then the next day set the trap.  Patience gwasshoppa...
Maybe even get 'em hungry a bit longer than a day if you have to, what do
you care???  :)  You gotta be there too when they enter the trap...  haha.
Don't go runnin' off to grab a sandwich.

B
www.geocities.com/bryg30

> Ha !  I can imagine trying to snag one of those little guys.
> That would be like trying to catch a fly with chopsticks !
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>>> Chris
Peter Pan - 05 Nov 2006 16:57 GMT
When I wanted to rid my tank of my Pseudochromis, I took a 20 oz coke bottle
and cut the bottle neck off , and took the mouth portion of the neck , and
stuck it inside of the other priece of the bottle. So the fish can get in
and can't come out. (a dab of crazy glue kept it in place for me)
After a 3 days of not feeding it, I took some food and placed it in the new
trap and putit in the tank. After a few minutes, I had captured the menace
of my tank.

> Ha !  I can imagine trying to snag one of those little guys.
> That would be like trying to catch a fly with chopsticks !
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> >> Chris
TheRock - 05 Nov 2006 16:58 GMT
Augh, get them hungry first !!!
So obvious, yet something I didn't think of.
Thanks !

> When I wanted to rid my tank of my Pseudochromis, I took a 20 oz coke
> bottle
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>> >> Chris
Wayne Sallee - 06 Nov 2006 19:26 GMT
It's easier than you think.

You do have to put food on the hook :-)

The hook method works best for the most aggressive fish
because they are the first to get the food.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets
Wayne@WaynesPets.com

TheRock wrote on 11/5/2006 10:18 AM:
> Ha !  I can imagine trying to snag one of those little guys.
> That would be like trying to catch a fly with chopsticks !
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>>> Chris
George Patterson - 05 Nov 2006 02:05 GMT
> Any suggestions ?

I once had a damsel that became a problem. I used an arrow with a hunting
broadhead as a spear to get it out. This is not for the fainthearted.

George Patterson
     If there are obstacles, the shortest path between two points may be the
     crooked one.
Mike Lawford - 06 Nov 2006 10:00 GMT
Maybe a stupid question but why do you hate these fish so much?

The second questionb is if you hate them so much - why did you put it in the
first place?

~m

> OK I have 2 yellow Damsels and a Pseudochromis
> (the yellow one with the purple stripe going down the middle, nasty fish)
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> Chris
TheRock - 06 Nov 2006 10:41 GMT
Both very good questions.  Ones I wish I had an answer for.
The yellow Damsels I can live with but the Pseudochromis I think has been
responsible for the death of a neon goby, cleaner shrimp and a cleaner
wrasse.
And now I see him working on the 6 line.

The Yellow damsels are digging out under the rock and knocking
over a few corals here and there. They are also kicking sand up all over
everything when
they're creating there little tunnels in the sand.

Lastly, I've just realized how nasty the Pseudochromis is.

Mike you don't work for fish protective services do you  :  )

> Maybe a stupid question but why do you hate these fish so much?
>
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>> Chris
Mike Lawford - 07 Nov 2006 11:08 GMT
> Mike you don't work for fish protective services do you  :  )

Nah unfortunately not!  But good answers.  My advice - go fishing!

~m

>> Maybe a stupid question but why do you hate these fish so much?
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>>> Chris
ratherbegolfing@gmail.com - 13 Nov 2006 20:08 GMT
Please research fish before adding them to your aquarium.

> Both very good questions.  Ones I wish I had an answer for.
> The yellow Damsels I can live with but the Pseudochromis I think has been
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TheRock - 14 Nov 2006 03:26 GMT
....now there's a thought that hasn't crossed my mind.

> Please research fish before adding them to your aquarium.
Peter Pan - 14 Nov 2006 04:12 GMT
....now there's a thought that hasn't crossed my mind.

LMAO
ratherbegolfing@gmail.com - 14 Nov 2006 12:13 GMT
You say that, but then again, if you did you wouldn't have ended up in
this predicament or with dead fish on your hands...
> ....now there's a thought that hasn't crossed my mind.
>
> > Please research fish before adding them to your aquarium.
TheRock - 14 Nov 2006 23:19 GMT
Thank you for the wonderful advise.  I will be sure to
think things like this through in the future.  I am so ashamed.

> You say that, but then again, if you did you wouldn't have ended up in
> this predicament or with dead fish on your hands...
>> ....now there's a thought that hasn't crossed my mind.
>>
>> > Please research fish before adding them to your aquarium.
Peter Pan - 16 Nov 2006 17:14 GMT
No Need to be ashamed Mr. Rock, its a learning experience, not all of us
deserve to belong to MENSA, we will make mistakes along the way, the idea is
to learn from them before the Super Genius's of the world show us how dumb
we really are.
> Thank you for the wonderful advise.  I will be sure to
> think things like this through in the future.  I am so ashamed.
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> >> > Please research fish before adding them to your aquarium.
ratherbegolfing@gmail.com - 17 Nov 2006 01:34 GMT
He absolutely should be ashamed.  It's not about being smart.  These
are living animals and you should consider the environment you are
going to put them in before you bring them home.  This is one hobby
where impulse buying can be a real detriment.

Would you buy a pet pet mouse to put in the same cage as a python?
> No Need to be ashamed Mr. Rock, its a learning experience, not all of us
> deserve to belong to MENSA, we will make mistakes along the way, the idea is
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> > >>
> > >> > Please research fish before adding them to your aquarium.
TheRock - 17 Nov 2006 03:34 GMT
Alrighty then, I see I need to add one more comment to this conversation.
Apparently you are the only one not picking up on my sarcasm.

I've kept a marine FO tank for about 4 years and I'm into this reef thing
now for 2.
By no mean does that make me an expert nor do I care to be,
however, I do understand the whole concept of researching a purchase.

I purposely bought these fish and now I don't want them anymore.
Simple as that.

Yes it is true that I did not understand the true level of craziness the
Pseudochromis would bring to the tank, however he has been fine with my mix.
It's just time for Mr. $4 to move out.

If you would like I can stick him in a white envelope lick a stamp and mail
him to you when he's out.  Otherwise I'll take it to the LFS and give it
away.

I AM ashamed I have to explain this to you, but I care, just a little.

A pet mouse in a python cage...HEY THAT SOUNDS LIKE FUN...THANKS !!!

> He absolutely should be ashamed.  It's not about being smart.  These
> are living animals and you should consider the environment you are
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>> > >> > Please research fish before adding them to your aquarium.
fishnut.uk@ntlworld.com - 18 Nov 2006 23:23 GMT
>Alrighty then, I see I need to add one more comment to this conversation.
>Apparently you are the only one not picking up on my sarcasm.
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>By no mean does that make me an expert nor do I care to be,
>however, I do understand the whole concept of researching a purchase.

Hello Rock,

The reality is though that no matter how much reading / research etc.
you do on a particular fish / invert., they are individuals, and while
most of a species may conform to a perception of anticipated
behaviour, there will always be an individual that behaves totally
differently, and create mayhem when least expected. I suppose it adds
to the enjoyment.

Regards,              Fishnut.
TheRock - 19 Nov 2006 14:54 GMT
>>Alrighty then, I see I need to add one more comment to this conversation.
>>Apparently you are the only one not picking up on my sarcasm.
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> Regards,  Fishnut.

He sure does keep the larger fish out and about.

Pseudochromis usually aren't too bad, but I happened to get the one
that happens to be the most agressive
.
I built a cool fish trap.  Feeding time is fun.
Unfortunatley fun for my Angle, clowns and blue green chromis.
The bad boys aren't going near it yet...
It's like they know something is in store for them.
TheRock - 17 Nov 2006 03:36 GMT
Is it MENSA or NAMBLA ...  :-)

> No Need to be ashamed Mr. Rock, its a learning experience, not all of us
> deserve to belong to MENSA, we will make mistakes along the way, the idea
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>> >> > Please research fish before adding them to your aquarium.
Cindy - 10 Nov 2006 01:35 GMT
* Mike Lawford wrote, On 11/6/2006 4:00 AM:
> Maybe a stupid question but why do you hate these fish so much?
>
> The second questionb is if you hate them so much - why did you put it in the
> first place?

You can't always know ahead of time what an a-hole that pretty fish is going to
be!  ;)
George Patterson - 10 Nov 2006 02:06 GMT
> You can't always know ahead of time what an a-hole that pretty fish is
> going to be!  ;)

Sort of like spouses in that respect.  :-)

George Patterson
     Those who do not study History are doomed to repeat it. Those who DO
     study History are doomed to watch every one else repeat it.
TheRock - 10 Nov 2006 11:03 GMT
>> You can't always know ahead of time what an a-hole that pretty fish is
>> going to be!  ;)
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>      Those who do not study History are doomed to repeat it. Those who DO
>      study History are doomed to watch every one else repeat it.

Come on George !
We all know it's usually the female out of the 2 that changes....oops !
Cindy - 10 Nov 2006 21:18 GMT
* George Patterson wrote, On 11/9/2006 8:06 PM:

>> You can't always know ahead of time what an a-hole that pretty fish is
>> going to be!  ;)
>
> Sort of like spouses in that respect.  :-)

Oh!  Lord, isn't THAT the truth....speaking from a "separated" perspective here.

Cindy
Bryan - 14 Nov 2006 03:45 GMT
So Rock, did you catch the damn thing(s)?!  ha.   The suspense is killing
me.

If not, I think a half bottle of Crown Royal ought to slow all the fishies
down enough where you can just reach in.

B

> OK I have 2 yellow Damsels and a Pseudochromis
> (the yellow one with the purple stripe going down the middle, nasty fish)
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>
> Chris
George Patterson - 14 Nov 2006 03:55 GMT
> If not, I think a half bottle of Crown Royal ought to slow all the fishies
> down enough where you can just reach in.

After half a bottle of that, Rock'll be lucky to be able to move.  :-)

George Patterson
     Those who do not study History are doomed to repeat it. Those who DO
     study History are doomed to watch every one else repeat it.
TheRock - 14 Nov 2006 11:03 GMT
Crown Royal not bad, but I prefer tequila.

I rigged up a contraption, basically a feeding box at the top of the water
with a trap door that I will pull shut.  I'll let the fish get used to it
first
and then during one feeding slam the door behind them.
Trap / feeding ring combo...it came to me in a dream one night after
a few tequilas.

Built it, Just haven't done it yet.

Oh yeah, the 6 line wrasse didn't make it, in fact I don't even know where
it is....
I got a great clean up crew....

>> If not, I think a half bottle of Crown Royal ought to slow all the
>> fishies down enough where you can just reach in.
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>      Those who do not study History are doomed to repeat it. Those who DO
>      study History are doomed to watch every one else repeat it.
TheRock - 22 Nov 2006 00:07 GMT
1 week and they're crowding the trap at dinner time.
I'm just waiting for the opportune time to shut the door behind them.
Oh the Pseudo still has not entered.  I wonder what he is eating ?!?!

> OK I have 2 yellow Damsels and a Pseudochromis
> (the yellow one with the purple stripe going down the middle, nasty fish)
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>
> Chris
Peter Pan - 22 Nov 2006 01:56 GMT
Stave the fish for a few days, then place the food inside of the trap,  when
they go in  woo-la... you caught your fish... good luck..BTW   took me
awhile  also..
> 1 week and they're crowding the trap at dinner time.
> I'm just waiting for the opportune time to shut the door behind them.
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> >
> > Chris
 
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