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What to use for holding acrylic together??

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Susan - 12 Sep 2007 17:09 GMT
I'm needing to glue a skimmer box together from my overflow as it got broken
before getting put into my tank.  Anyone know what is the best stuff to use?
I've tried several different glues without success.

TIA,
Susan :)
Pszemol - 12 Sep 2007 18:52 GMT
> I'm needing to glue a skimmer box together from my overflow as it got broken
> before getting put into my tank.  Anyone know what is the best stuff to use?
> I've tried several different glues without success.

You need to use dedicated cement for acrylic available in plastics stores.
Use google.com to look up specific names and retailers in your area.
Wayne Sallee - 12 Sep 2007 18:53 GMT
Susan wrote on 9/12/2007 12:09 PM:
> I'm needing to glue a skimmer box together from my overflow as it got broken
> before getting put into my tank.  Anyone know what is the best stuff to use?
> I've tried several different glues without success.
>
> TIA,
> Susan :)

That was a big mistake. You should have found the
right thing before contaminating it with inferior stuff.

You could use methyl ethyl ketone, or acetone, but
the better would be "weld-on 3".

Do your best to remove the other junk that you put
on there before applying the correct application.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Wayne Sallee - 12 Sep 2007 18:56 GMT
Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/12/2007 1:53 PM:
> Susan wrote on 9/12/2007 12:09 PM:
>> I'm needing to glue a skimmer box together from my overflow as it got
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> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne@WayneSallee.com

You can also use thicker weld-ons if you need it,
and you can also make your own thicker weld-on using
weld-on 3 and scrap acrylic.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Pszemols Whore - 12 Sep 2007 22:30 GMT
> Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/12/2007 1:53 PM:
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And idiot like Wayne would use Duct Tape and bubble
gum.............And idiot like Pszemol wojuld just oit it be broken as
he looks for specific cement which shows he has no f.cking lcue at all
what he is talking about, much like Wayne.........the know it all
wanna be  but flunked out of the pet shob business due to his inept
ability and pityfull excuses he made up for his lack of knowledge.
Folks got tired of his having to run to the computer and doing google
searches everytime they asked the idiot a question.  Waynes Famouse
last words.DUH...........Pszemols famous last words, If I promise not
to bite it can I hold it in my mouth?
Pszemol - 12 Sep 2007 23:24 GMT
> I'm needing to glue a skimmer box together from my overflow as it got broken
> before getting put into my tank.  Anyone know what is the best stuff to use?
> I've tried several different glues without success.

http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/product.php?pid=130

http://www.ipscorp.com/industrial/acrylics.html
Susan - 14 Sep 2007 22:13 GMT
Thanks guys for your help.  That's what I was looking for Pszemol.

Susan :)
>> I'm needing to glue a skimmer box together from my overflow as it got
>> broken before getting put into my tank.  Anyone know what is the best
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> http://www.ipscorp.com/industrial/acrylics.html
Pszemols Whore - 14 Sep 2007 22:37 GMT
> Thanks guys for your help.  That's what I was looking for Pszemol.
>
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yeppers, Pszemol uses Wayne's love juice to stick his parts together.
I can hear Pissy Pants Pszemol licking and smacking his lips from
here...........
Wayne Sallee - 15 Sep 2007 18:20 GMT
The reason that weld-on 3 works best, is because
it's a solvent. Any time that a plastic can be
bonded using a solvent, using the solvent is the
best way to go, instead of using a glue.

Weld-on 3 works good on a number of other plastics
as well. It's handy to have around.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

Susan wrote on 9/14/2007 5:13 PM:
> Thanks guys for your help.  That's what I was looking for Pszemol.
>
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>> http://www.ipscorp.com/industrial/acrylics.html
Wayne Sallee - 15 Sep 2007 18:25 GMT
Also, go to Wall-Mart pharmacy department, and get
the syringe with needle, reorder # 309574. There are
a number of different syringes, but I like this one
the best.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/15/2007 1:20 PM:
> The reason that weld-on 3 works best, is because it's a solvent. Any
> time that a plastic can be bonded using a solvent, using the solvent is
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>>> http://www.ipscorp.com/industrial/acrylics.html
TSJ - 15 Sep 2007 18:33 GMT
> Also, go to Wall-Mart pharmacy department, and get
> the syringe with needle, reorder # 309574. There are
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A lot of states requires a prescription to buy any syringe even
without a needle attrached. Best bet is but the correct applicator
where they sell the solvent at. Its like $2.00 for a syringe and 4
assorted blunt end needle tips or $3.00 for a squeeze bottle with the
same 4 assorted tips.  However a lot of farmers feed and supply places
sell hypodermic syringes without a perscription.  And be sure to drag
the syringe backwards during use do not push it forward as it will
cause the tip to clog. Apply slowly and allow to wick in the joint /
crack, and any that flows out of crack just let evaporate do not try
to wipe it off as a lot of times it will evaporate if the humidity is
not high and no marks are left. You will get a white spot where it
spills if humidity is up.
Susan - 16 Sep 2007 05:46 GMT
Thanks for your replys!!  Any help is appreciated :)

Susan
>> Also, go to Wall-Mart pharmacy department, and get
>> the syringe with needle, reorder # 309574. There are
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> not high and no marks are left. You will get a white spot where it
> spills if humidity is up.
Wayne Sallee - 16 Sep 2007 13:54 GMT
Also when you purchase your syringe, get about a
dozen or so. They are dirt cheap, and if you mess
one up, then you will still have plenty left. They
will look at you funny if you just ask to purchase
one. Most towns won't make laws to prevent people
from purchasing them without a prescription because
they don't want the druggies reusing needles and
spreading disease. But the store clerk might give
you trouble if you just ask for one.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/15/2007 1:25 PM:
> Also, go to Wall-Mart pharmacy department, and get the syringe with
> needle, reorder # 309574. There are a number of different syringes, but
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>>>> http://www.ipscorp.com/industrial/acrylics.html
Susan - 16 Sep 2007 05:44 GMT
Thanks, where do you get Weld-On 3?  Is this something easily found?  I had
tried a super glue type glue that was "suppose" to be made for plastics
etc.. and it appeared it would be safe for fish tanks.  It held for a short
time than gave away.  Do you know if the weld-on 3 is safe for marine/reef
tanks?

Thanks again,
Susan :)
> The reason that weld-on 3 works best, is because it's a solvent. Any time
> that a plastic can be bonded using a solvent, using the solvent is the
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>>> http://www.ipscorp.com/industrial/acrylics.html
TSJ - 16 Sep 2007 13:31 GMT
> Thanks, where do you get Weld-On 3?  Is this something easily found?  I had
> tried a super glue type glue that was "suppose" to be made for plastics
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Weldon #3 or #4 or #16 is what they use on acrylic when they buiild
fish tanks and yes it is marine / reef safe.  It is a solvent that
when its evaporated is safe.  Last I knew hazmat shiping charges on a
small container of it is $$ so you may be better to try and find it
locally from a plastics supply or such. I have seen it already in
Michaels Arts and Crafts store under the name of Hobbix acrylic
solvent, in about a 2 fl oz bottle, The   main ingredieint is
methylene chloride.     There is a 2 part solvent based heavy bodied
adhesive / glue sold by Devcon. Its a 2 part mix but its not reallay
epoxy. In one of the tubes is a thickened compound that has methylene
chloride init, which is needed to melt and create the bond of acrylic
plastic. The other part is a thick filler to build up joints and
fillets etc. I have used this stuff with sucess as its made for Plexi
etc when I needed a thicker bodied cement.  Weldon and IPS also makes
this same cement as well. You can usually find a blister card package
of this stuff at most any Wal Mart in the paint department where they
keep glues and sealant and caulks at. Its made by Devcon and will
state for plastic or its called Plasticpoxy or something like that.It
stinks but the snmell goes away when its cured.
Wayne Sallee - 16 Sep 2007 13:43 GMT
Here you go.

http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/product.php?pid=131&

It's the link for the weld-on 3. And that's where I
purchased it from.

It's not something that is sold in the average
hardware store. There are some plastic places that
sell it, but usually such a place is a good drive
away, and it's so much easier to just order it from
Tap Plastics.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

Susan wrote on 9/16/2007 12:44 AM:
> Thanks, where do you get Weld-On 3?  Is this something easily found?  I had
> tried a super glue type glue that was "suppose" to be made for plastics
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>>>> http://www.ipscorp.com/industrial/acrylics.html
 
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