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fishnut.uk@ntlworld.com - 09 Nov 2007 18:22 GMT
I see the idiots are trying to run the asylum again !!

Regards,            Fishnut.
jthread - 09 Nov 2007 18:52 GMT
>I see the idiots are trying to run the asylum again !!
>
> Regards, Fishnut.

My trusty killfile is smoking. I'll take that minor inconvenience over a
moderator anyday. As long as we all ignore it we'll be just fine.

Jim
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Pszemol - 09 Nov 2007 22:04 GMT
> My trusty killfile is smoking.

Really? Thas would be amazing if it really worked.
The spammer changes e-mail addres in every post.
jthread - 09 Nov 2007 22:20 GMT
>> My trusty killfile is smoking.
>
> Really? Thas would be amazing if it really worked.
> The spammer changes e-mail addres in every post.

He's a wile one.

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Pszemol - 10 Nov 2007 00:18 GMT
>>> My trusty killfile is smoking.
>>
>> Really? Thas would be amazing if it really worked.
>> The spammer changes e-mail addres in every post.
>
> He's a wile one.

I might be slow, but do not get it...
How do you setup your killfile when all these
messages are sent from unique e-mail adresses?
jthread - 10 Nov 2007 15:06 GMT
>>>> My trusty killfile is smoking.
>>>
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> How do you setup your killfile when all these
> messages are sent from unique e-mail adresses?

you can't but it get rid of the post

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Pszemol - 11 Nov 2007 06:48 GMT
>>>>> My trusty killfile is smoking.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> you can't but it get rid of the post

huh? How can it get rid of the post? Based on WHAT?
Computer program works on RULES. What is the rule?

In the other post you stated you had to remove the
spam manually - so why can you say it get rid of anything?
ythread - 11 Nov 2007 06:59 GMT
>>>>>> My trusty killfile is smoking.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> In the other post you stated you had to remove the
> spam manually - so why can you say it get rid of anything?

You are all doomed forever. hahahahahaha

All I did was group all his posts together. Deleted everyone in the blink
of an eye.

There is always a way. teehee.

Who cares if he posts if you can delete them all at once? BFD haha. Go ahead
and rack your brains. You'll figure it out.

Thanks for all the help! You guys are funny!!!

Peace.

Jim T
George Patterson - 10 Nov 2007 03:26 GMT
> The spammer changes e-mail addres in every post.

He's not changing addresses. This is a robot similar to those used to get around
spam blockers. The 'bot pulls random slices of text from various sources and
uses the original owners' email addresses as his own. The key signature of this
sort of 'bot is the fact that the subject lines are nonsense. The 'bot generates
random strings of words for the subject line.

George Patterson
    If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
    to anything.
jthread - 10 Nov 2007 20:21 GMT
>> The spammer changes e-mail addres in every post.
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>     If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
>     to anything.

Just d/l Spambrave. Has anyone used it? I have to delete all the current
spam and train Spambrave to only accept good posts. We'll see if it works.
This guy is persistant. Should be able to tell in a couple of days.

Jim
Pszemol - 11 Nov 2007 06:30 GMT
> He's not changing addresses.

Three last spam posts where signed with three different e-mail addresses:
"Elmo" <hungrily@ROOF.NET.TR>, <david@deep.ia.us>, "Abdul Al Sistani" <privately@league.com.hk>

> This is a robot similar to those used to get around
> spam blockers. The 'bot pulls random slices of text from various sources and
> uses the original owners' email addresses as his own. The key signature of this
> sort of 'bot is the fact that the subject lines are nonsense. The 'bot generates
> random strings of words for the subject line.

And which newsreader has advanced killfile recognizing "nonsense in the subject line"?
George Patterson - 11 Nov 2007 18:28 GMT
>> He's not changing addresses.
>
> Three last spam posts where signed with three different e-mail addresses:
> "Elmo" <hungrily@ROOF.NET.TR>, <david@deep.ia.us>, "Abdul Al Sistani"
> <privately@league.com.hk>

Yes, but the program is doing that. There's no need for the "poster" do actually
do anything. You're correct that each massage has a different return address,
but "he" isn't actually changing the address with each post. It's an automated
process.

> And which newsreader has advanced killfile recognizing "nonsense in the
> subject line"?

None that I know of. That's the entire point of the program. The original
purpose of the 'bot was to slip emails with spyware past readers' filters. If
you get curious about one of the mails and open it up, the spyware gets
activated. Usually the message gets sent by mail to several thousand people. The
return address gets changed each time it's sent. What this guy has done is to
generate multiple messages and have them sent here.

I've read that corporations have blocking programs that can stop this sort of
thing, but I don't know that to be true, much less know how it works. I do know
that some people have mail systems that simply block anything from strange email
addresses, but I don't know of any newsreader that has that feature.

George Patterson
    If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
    to anything.
Pszemol - 11 Nov 2007 21:51 GMT
>>> He's not changing addresses.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> but "he" isn't actually changing the address with each post. It's an automated
> process.

What difference does it make from my point of view?
Gill Passman - 11 Nov 2007 22:18 GMT
>>>> He's not changing addresses.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> What difference does it make from my point of view?

On most of these posts the poster opted for them to be removed after a
very short time scale. I basically, unsubcribed, and then resubsribed to
the group - the trash was gone :-)....I had to re-read the interesting
stuff though but that wasn't too much of a trauma - lol

Gill
jthread - 10 Nov 2007 20:29 GMT
>I see the idiots are trying to run the asylum again !!
>
> Regards, Fishnut.

One good thing about Spambrave, right-off-the-bat. is it lets you group all
of our friends post and id them as spam. Takes them all right off. The ver.
I d/l is the lite. The full version will report them as spam abuse too. I
like it already.

Jim
Pszemol - 11 Nov 2007 06:51 GMT
> One good thing about Spambrave, right-off-the-bat. is it lets you group all
> of our friends post and id them as spam. Takes them all right off. The ver.
> I d/l is the lite. The full version will report them as spam abuse too. I
> like it already.

Spam abuse is useless in war against regular anoying spam
when spam is not containing any offensive/illegal words.
Waste of time.
Wayne Sallee - 18 Nov 2007 19:57 GMT
With thunderbird, I created a clean list that
highlights with the tag code, those that are normal
members on this newsgroup, so that the trash posts
are easily ignored.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

fishnut.uk@ntlworld.com wrote on 11/9/2007 1:22 PM:
> I see the idiots are trying to run the asylum again !!
>
> Regards,            Fishnut.
wolfdogg - 19 Nov 2007 18:09 GMT
> With thunderbird, I created a clean list that
> highlights with the tag code, those that are normal
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> > Regards,                   Fishnut.

i wish i had a way to use a news server, i dont think i currently have
one with wildblue, so i am forced to use this board on
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
its funny to think that everybody is coming from different angles on
this board.  i miss using outlook express when i had an earthlink
account, but now would rather use t-bird if i knew of a news server i
could use.
charlie - 19 Nov 2007 18:16 GMT
>> With thunderbird, I created a clean list that
>> highlights with the tag code, those that are normal
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> account, but now would rather use t-bird if i knew of a news server i
> could use.

use news.aloe.org as a news feed.
Wayne Sallee - 19 Nov 2007 23:58 GMT
I use http://motzarella.org   (free)  and
http://teranews.com (free after one time payment).

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

wolfdogg wrote on 11/19/2007 1:09 PM:
>> With thunderbird, I created a clean list that
>> highlights with the tag code, those that are normal
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> account, but now would rather use t-bird if i knew of a news server i
> could use.
 
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