Mushrooms
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KurtG - 19 Nov 2007 22:55 GMT My luck with corals continues, but here's the question: How do I take care of mushrooms? I had a rock that was full of them, but they seem to be dwindling steadily over about a 6 month period. AFAIK, nothing is bothering them, but they just get smaller until they disappear.
--Kurt
Wayne Sallee - 20 Nov 2007 00:06 GMT Well considering that most mushrooms are the easiest thing to keep,,,, :-)
What kind of mushrooms do you have?
Wayne Sallee Wayne@WayneSallee.com
KurtG wrote on 11/19/2007 5:55 PM:
> My luck with corals continues, but here's the question: How do I take > care of mushrooms? I had a rock that was full of them, but they seem to > be dwindling steadily over about a 6 month period. AFAIK, nothing is > bothering them, but they just get smaller until they disappear. > > --Kurt KurtG - 20 Nov 2007 00:32 GMT > Well considering that most mushrooms are the easiest thing to keep,,,, :-) Yeah, so I hear. I'm also a master at killing off Xenia.
> What kind of mushrooms do you have? Looks like these: http://tinyurl.com/2q4la6
--Kurt
Big Habeeb - 20 Nov 2007 15:00 GMT > > Well considering that most mushrooms are the easiest thing to keep,,,, :-) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > --Kurt Kurt, I have some similar mushrooms in mine as well, in addition to an unnamed brownish mushroom with filaments, and some random green mushrooms and haven't found that they need anything additional really, apart from the usual phytoplex supplement that was suggested to me by the LFS (believe it was for feeding purposes for the corals). Apart from the fact that they close up when the lights switch from day to night (and open back up shortly thereafter) or when I'm doing a water change, they seem to be pretty self sufficient so far...though admittedly I've had mine a much shorter time (brown for about a month, green for about 2 weeks)... What are they doing in particular? Shrivelling up? spending more time closed etc?
Mitch
KurtG - 20 Nov 2007 17:05 GMT So, they feed on phytoplankton? I guess I better read more about them.
--Kurt
>>> Well considering that most mushrooms are the easiest thing to keep,,,, :-) >> Yeah, so I hear. I'm also a master at killing off Xenia. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Mitch Big Habeeb - 20 Nov 2007 17:49 GMT > So, they feed on phytoplankton? I guess I better read more about them. > > --Kurt I don't know if they do or not...I just know that I was told to add it by the lfs, and the back of the bottle seems to indicate that this is what corals and the like chow on...here's a snippit I found on the internet about it: Kent Phytoplex is a highly concentrated complex of aqua cultured, naturally occurring marine phytoplankton It contains Nannochloropsis, Tetraselmis and Isochrysis sp. Tahitian ranging in size from 2 to 15 microns Phytoplex provides necessary proteins, carbohydrates, and lipids for live hard & soft corals, tube worms, clams and other invertebrates It is rich in the omega-3 fatty acids, DHA and EPA and is useful in feeding rotifers and other plankton and in raising larval fish
It seems that, depending on what else you've been adding, your corals may be hungry :p But let one of the more experienced guys chime in, since i'm basically just spitting back out what I've been told, not what I've seen with my own eyes...for all I know, phytoplex may be a big scam excuse to charge me 13 bucks every couple months.
Mitch
gaijin - 20 Nov 2007 18:08 GMT Mushrooms should just grow, no supplementary feeding necessary. These things are hardy, you can cut them into four pieces and they should all grow into new mushrooms.
>> So, they feed on phytoplankton? I guess I better read more about them. >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Mitch KurtG - 20 Nov 2007 20:06 GMT > Mushrooms should just grow, no supplementary feeding necessary. These > things are hardy, you can cut them into four pieces and they should > all grow into new mushrooms. It's pretty sad when I can't get the easiest of corals to grow. My Heteractis magnifica anemone looks great. It's probably 10" across now, but all my soft corals just whither and die.
Well, I'll get my refugium setup (so I can turn off my skimmer for 36 hours) and then start dosing phyto to see if that helps.
--Kurt
wolfdogg - 20 Nov 2007 19:39 GMT > I don't know if they do or not...I just know that I was told to add it > by the lfs, and the back of the bottle seems to indicate that this is > what corals and the like chow on... >for all I know, phytoplex may be a > big scam excuse to charge me 13 bucks every couple months. i wouldn't expect it to be a scam, i always look at phytoplex as the food source for the bottom of the chain, sort of like nitrates is. I use it to keep the copepods, amphipods, and other invert happy, and in turn the swimming half that get swirled around in the column in turn feed the corals. I assume the corals eat this directly, but i use it to keep the base chain healthy, and let the base chain feed the corals. However, you will find that i do things uniquely in the reef world. I dotn go out and buy expensive pieces, ever. i just stock my tank with live rock, and samples of stuff and wait for them to grow, biologically. I just keep the biological system at its best by paying attention to the bottom of the chain, and ensuring that all the middle species are in tact, like asturina stars(sponge and coral eaters i suspect), a small tad of cyanobacteria, a small tad of slime algae, a multitude of tube worms and the like in the substrate and on the rocks, a healthy DSB, tons of pods crawling and swimming around, and micro sized worms crawling around on the glass, baby snails, spawning hermits, spawning snails. once I have this, I rest at ease and just watch corals and sponge pop out of nowhere. it takes a healthy bio to grow stuff from the smallest seed, such as stoways that are so small you cant seem them until they grow. Most everyone else just goes out to the store and buys what they need instead of culturing it from birth. But, you will find alot of bio-heads on this board, and thats why i like it, to me, taking care of the bio from the bottom up is the only way to go, but alot of people are too impatient for that route and tend to adhere to the buy-and-replace method, instead of the grow- from-scratch method.
take a look at the phytoplex at marine depot, its pretty cheap there, and if you ever need to make an order, throw a 16oz bottle in your order and you will get it the cheapest this way i think. http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem~SearchStr~phytoplex~action~view~idProduct ~KM3573~idCategory~FIFDLI~category~Kent_Marine_PhytoPlex_Phytoplankton_16_oz._Sa ltwater_Aquarium_Supplies_Food_Liquid~vendor~.html
i have the same shrooms, they have a bit more green on them than in the picture. my nitrates hover near 10ppm frequently as i do very infrequent water changes. i suspect this is why my mushrooms are always hating it. everything else is fine including my porites encruster coral.
Wayne Sallee - 20 Nov 2007 20:07 GMT You don't need to feed them.
Wayne Sallee Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Big Habeeb wrote on 11/20/2007 12:49 PM:
>> So, they feed on phytoplankton? I guess I better read more about them. >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Mitch Wayne Sallee - 20 Nov 2007 20:05 GMT KurtG wrote on 11/19/2007 7:32 PM:
>> Well considering that most mushrooms are the easiest thing to keep,,,, :-) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > --Kurt I didn't even notice the url the first time I read this post. :-)
The mushrooms in the picture are easy to keep, so there's definitely something quite wrong.
Wayne Sallee Wayne@WayneSallee.com
KurtG - 20 Nov 2007 20:11 GMT > The mushrooms in the picture are easy to keep, so there's definitely > something quite wrong. It's probably something connected to my fingers. :-)
I am able to keep Zoo's, but I feed those.
I'll break out my jr. chemistry kit tonight and do some testing. Usually, everything is normal, but we'll see.
--Kurt
Wayne Sallee - 20 Nov 2007 20:12 GMT KurtG wrote on 11/19/2007 5:55 PM:
> My luck with corals continues, but here's the question: How do I take > care of mushrooms? I had a rock that was full of them, but they seem to > be dwindling steadily over about a 6 month period. AFAIK, nothing is > bothering them, but they just get smaller until they disappear. > > --Kurt What are you doing to your tank? additives? water for water change? how much water change? Inhabitants? water paramers?
Wayne Sallee Wayne@WayneSallee.com
KurtG - 20 Nov 2007 20:23 GMT > What are you doing to your tank? As little as possilble :-), I feed the anemones, fish, empty skimmer, and water change 5 gal/week for 110 gallon tank w/ 2x250 watt MH lights.
> additives? Instant ocean. Occasionally add iodine. Dose 1-2 gallons kalk per day.
> water for water change? RO/DI - 0 ppm
> how much water change? 5 gallons/week.
> Inhabitants? 1 Heteractis magnifica anemone - 10" across - growing like crazy. 1 Bubble anemone that hasn't been doing well - won't eat. 7" Yellow tang 5" Naso tang 1 maroon clown 5 damsels. 2 larger Blue fin damsels. 1 Green Brittle Star 1 Sally lightfoot. 1 Grey Angel Juvie - never seen him pester any corals (yet) Coral beauty.
hm, that's about it. I want to trap out the maroon and replace with a pair of true percs.
> water paramers? Check tonight
Wayne Sallee - 20 Nov 2007 22:22 GMT Your green brittle star could be causing problems with your mushrooms. They are not a normal brittle star, they are more like half brittle star, and half serpent star.
Wayne Sallee Wayne@WayneSallee.com
KurtG wrote on 11/20/2007 3:23 PM:
>> What are you doing to your tank? > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Check tonight
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