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NoSpam - 27 Jul 2008 23:01 GMT
Am I to assume that this group is completely dead? And is so, where
did everyone go to?

Thanks.
Peter Pan - 28 Jul 2008 03:07 GMT
> Am I to assume that this group is completely dead? And is so, where
> did everyone go to?
>
> Thanks.

Some of us are still here...
David Galea - 28 Jul 2008 11:43 GMT
> Am I to assume that this group is completely dead? And is so, where
> did everyone go to?
>
> Thanks.

I am also here
Don Geddis - 28 Jul 2008 18:58 GMT
David Galea <davidgalea@internode.on.net> wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008:
>> Am I to assume that this group is completely dead? And is so, where did
>> everyone go to?
>>
> I am also here

I'm not.

(C.f. Monty Python's "Life of Brian")
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no-spam - 28 Jul 2008 18:00 GMT
... and so am I, still kicking.:-D
> Am I to assume that this group is completely dead? And is so, where did
> everyone go to?
>
> Thanks.
NoSpam - 28 Jul 2008 18:55 GMT
> ... and so am I, still kicking.:-D
>> Am I to assume that this group is completely dead? And is so, where
>> did everyone go to?
>>
>> Thanks.

OK. I'll hang around and lurk too :)

What do mix with live sand so that the entire tank becomes live sand
after 6-7 months? I' going to put together a 90g reef (on a budget)
no-spam - 29 Jul 2008 10:23 GMT
IMHO, you should just put the live sand alongside with "brand new" sand
without churning and turning in an attempt to mix them together. Given time,
nature will take its course, where organism from live sand will infiltrate
into the new. The idea is to keep the existing organism as much as possible
within its existing favorable conditions that have kept them alive and to
grow outwards into new territories.

Other experienced reefers may have a different take.

Good luck!

> OK. I'll hang around and lurk too :)
>
> What do mix with live sand so that the entire tank becomes live sand after
> 6-7 months? I' going to put together a 90g reef (on a budget)
NoSpam - 29 Jul 2008 16:37 GMT
> IMHO, you should just put the live sand alongside with "brand new"
> sand without churning and turning in an attempt to mix them
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Good luck!

I was wondering if I could mix the LS with the white sterilized kids
playbox sand? And using white Fuji sand. I never had LS before. Any
idea of where I can get a calculator to figure out how pounds of sand
for the size of the tank?

BTW, I live in the City of SD (North Park), where you at?
Don Geddis - 29 Jul 2008 18:24 GMT
"NoSpam" <fake@fake.com> wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008:
> I was wondering if I could mix the LS with the white sterilized kids
> playbox sand?

Yes.  Although, don't "mix" it.  Just put the playbox sand in one part, and
the real live sand in another part.  The ecosystem will grow and colonize the
dead stuff.

> And using white Fuji sand.

Even better (finer grained) than playbox sand.

> BTW, I live in the City of SD (North Park), where you at?

State?  Country?  You realize this is an international newsgroup, don't you?

       -- Don
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NoSpam - 30 Jul 2008 18:17 GMT
> "NoSpam" <fake@fake.com> wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008:
>> I was wondering if I could mix the LS with the white sterilized
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> State?  Country?  You realize this is an international newsgroup,
> don't you?

Duh. I thought I was in another group. Thanks for the info on the
sand.
Peter Pan - 30 Jul 2008 02:49 GMT
>> IMHO, you should just put the live sand alongside with "brand new"
>> sand without churning and turning in an attempt to mix them
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> BTW, I live in the City of SD (North Park), where you at?

You want a 3-4" deep sand bed. How ever many bags depends on how big
your tank is. I would measure your tank then bring the detentions to the
store and ask the local fish guy how much you need to make the DSB.
Remember to put your rock in first then add the sand.. you may also want
to rinse the regular sand first before putting it in the tank. The Sand
will cloud up, make sure you have the water circulating. It will clear
up in a couple of days..
Good luck
NoSpam - 30 Jul 2008 18:24 GMT
>>> IMHO, you should just put the live sand alongside with "brand new"
>>> sand without churning and turning in an attempt to mix them
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> circulating. It will clear up in a couple of days..
> Good luck

I read a trick about this. Get a long funnel and use that to apply
sand to the bottom of the tank. And a filter bag tied on the end of
the overflow pipe.
Also, if your adding water to an empty tank, use a dinner plate and
the water will not stir the bottom (if you don't have a sump).
expat - 30 Jul 2008 20:05 GMT
> >>> IMHO, you should just put the live sand alongside with "brand new"
> >>> sand without churning and turning in an attempt to mix them
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Just use a length of PVC pipe or a zip lock baggie, fill with some
water from the tank after you fill it with sand and submerge baggie to
bottom and unzip it and allow to flow out.
NoSpam - 31 Jul 2008 20:05 GMT
"expat" <jackmeoffwithabreastpump@gmail.com> wrote in message Just use
a length of PVC pipe or a zip lock baggie, fill with some
water from the tank after you fill it with sand and submerge baggie to
bottom and unzip it and allow to flow out.

----------------------------
Thanks for the zip bag. I just thought of silicone and a 1" PVC with a
wide kitchen funnel glued in :)
expat - 01 Aug 2008 12:48 GMT
> "expat" <jackmeoffwithabreastp...@gmail.com> wrote in message Just use
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Thanks for the zip bag. I just thought of silicone and a 1" PVC with a
> wide kitchen funnel glued in :)

Goihng way way overboard with glueing in a funnel etc . Its not hard
to add sand directly into a piece of PVC pipe, or even fill a plastic
container up and submerge into tank and postion where needed and tilt
it over and let it trickle out.  The zip lock baggie is about as
simple and easy as it gets.....short of dumping it in the tank gets.
NoSpam - 01 Aug 2008 19:46 GMT
On Jul 31, 2:05 pm, "NoSpam" <f...@fake.com> wrote:
> "expat" <jackmeoffwithabreastp...@gmail.com> wrote in message Just
> use
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> a
> wide kitchen funnel glued in :)

Goihng way way overboard with glueing in a funnel etc . Its not hard
to add sand directly into a piece of PVC pipe, or even fill a plastic
container up and submerge into tank and postion where needed and tilt
it over and let it trickle out.  The zip lock baggie is about as
simple and easy as it gets.....short of dumping it in the tank gets.
-------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, your right. I have a tendency to go overboard. Thanks for the
smack on the head :)
expat - 30 Jul 2008 20:11 GMT
> Am I to assume that this group is completely dead? And is so, where
> did everyone go to?
>
> Thanks.

Only the ones that thought they owned this group  and thought they
were the worlds only gurus  on marine reef tanks and fish have fled.
Where oh where has old Wayne Sallee gone, oh where oh where can he be,
with is tail tucked between his legs and his tempper cut short, oh
where oh where can he be.

He is out on the town with his only friend named Kurt,  crying away in
their beer............Oh how nice this group eventually turned out to
be without the likes of those that thought they were in total control
of a public group. Yep it may be quiet, but its free of their drivel
and sarcassim, plus the web based forums are way better than any
usenet group could ever dream of becoming.  Try em, you just may like
em.

Rest in Peace.....no one misses you at all!

Wayne Sallee
Kurt Guenther
Pezemol
Innabon Dunes
Rock
George Patterson
Sheila
And a few other dipshits!
 
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