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Koi Carp in a tank is it possible??

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Just Wondering - 25 Nov 2004 21:02 GMT
I was thinking about setting up a cold water tank with a couple of goldfish
and a black moor , a friend sugguested why not get a couple of koi-carp
instead , but its only a 2 and a half foot tank.

i said it would be crazy to do such a thing , but he said that the fish will
only grow there envoriment .

Is this indeed the case , or would i be incrediablly cruel to put to very
small koi carp in a 2 .5 foot tank ???
Just Wondering - 25 Nov 2004 21:13 GMT
>I was thinking about setting up a cold water tank with a couple of goldfish
>and a black moor , a friend sugguested why not get a couple of koi-carp
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> Is this indeed the case , or would i be incrediablly cruel to put to very
> small koi carp in a 2 .5 foot tank ???

Ment to say grow to there enviroment
Iain Miller - 26 Nov 2004 01:11 GMT
> >I was thinking about setting up a cold water tank with a couple of goldfish
> >and a black moor , a friend sugguested why not get a couple of koi-carp
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>
> Ment to say grow to there enviroment

That's true to an extent in as much fish do release some kind of hormone
whereby if there is sufficient quantity of it it will stop them growing.

Also given that the accepted wisdom for healthy Koi in a pond is 1000
gallons for the first fish & 1-200 gallons for every one thereafter I'd say
it wouldn't be a great idea!

I.
Just Wondering - 26 Nov 2004 01:31 GMT
>> >I was thinking about setting up a cold water tank with a couple of
> goldfish
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>
> I.

Iain , thank you , i pretty much guess it would not be a good idea , i
though it worth asking , just in case .

okay back to plan A , 2 goldfish and a black moor it is.....you just can't
beat the black moor shuffle as it swims around.
Morten - 28 Nov 2004 11:35 GMT
Hi Iain

> > >I was thinking about setting up a cold water tank with a couple of
> goldfish
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> That's true to an extent in as much fish do release some kind of hormone
> whereby if there is sufficient quantity of it it will stop them growing.

They do release a hormone that restricts their growth in a small
environment, so unless you do major water changes very often or overfeed
them they won't outgrow their environment.

> Also given that the accepted wisdom for healthy Koi in a pond is 1000
> gallons for the first fish & 1-200 gallons for every one thereafter I'd say
> it wouldn't be a great idea!

It does work though, I have 5 silver ghosts kois and 8 goldfish in a 240
liters tank with a 2228 eheim filters and a vegetable filter (heavy planted
tank with lots of light) in a 100 liters sump via overflows and they haven't
grown much for the last year. Don't overfeed them though and keep the
temperature stable, my tank is arround 24 degrees celcius and has been
stable for the last year...

I do water changes every two weeks where I change about 75% of the water (I
use a garden hoose to create a syphon), add lots of de-chlorinator and add
water through the same hose from the shower thermostat...

But if you want your fish to grow to natural size DON'T keep them in a tank,
mine are about 4-5" and haven't grown for the last year!!!

I feed them once a day but do skip a day or two from time to time, they
really don't need much food to stay healthy, they are cold blooded animals
so don't use any energy to keep their body temperature above their habitats
so only need energy to move around and to keep their metabolism running...

Regards

Morten

(who just found his flameproof suit and hid in a corner)
 
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