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Too Hot For Tropicals

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Edward Cowling London UK - 18 Jul 2006 11:01 GMT
After loosing a few fish in the summer of 2003 I've now got a reliable
routine for keeping the fish cool. I leave the tank flaps up and let a
fan play softly over the water. Simple, but yesterday my tanks didn't go
above 79 degrees F all day.

Despite being called tropicals they really suffer in the extreme heat,
so you need some way of keeping them comfortable. I change about 25-30%
of the tank water weekly, so loss from evaporation isn't a problem.

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steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk - 18 Jul 2006 11:41 GMT
>Despite being called tropicals they really suffer in the extreme heat,
>so you need some way of keeping them comfortable. I change about 25-30%
>of the tank water weekly, so loss from evaporation isn't a problem.

"Tropical" varies a huge amount. It aeration that's the problem with
most "too warm" tanks.

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!Speedy Gonzales! - 18 Jul 2006 17:25 GMT
> After loosing a few fish in the summer of 2003 I've now got a reliable
> routine for keeping the fish cool. I leave the tank flaps up and let a fan
> play softly over the water. Simple, but yesterday my tanks didn't go above
> 79 degrees F all day.

My tank has been over 80degreesF/27degreesC a few times over the past couple
of days and all I have done is change about 30% of the water with cold water
from the tap(treated of course).
My fish have been a bit on the quiet side and 1 particular guppy has taking
to hiding in one of my plants as if she were giving birth/playing dead!?!
I have a couple of airstones as I know warmer water doesn't hold O2 as good
as cold.
I'm up in Edinburgh so not nearly as hot as it is down South.
If this heat wave carries on, is there anything else I could do to keep my
fish(community tank) happy?

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Edward Cowling London UK - 18 Jul 2006 18:06 GMT
>as cold.
>I'm up in Edinburgh so not nearly as hot as it is down South.
>If this heat wave carries on, is there anything else I could do to keep my
>fish(community tank) happy?

I'm not sure how wise it is, but I have tried it in extreme weather and
it does get the temperature down. That is creating your own fish tank
icebergs :-)  Fill up a tupperware container with tank water, freeze it,
and then put the resulting iceberg in the tank.

I have heard the very cold water close to the berg isn't good for the
fish, but none of mine seemed ill after I did it. A brick size berg will
bring the temperature down by 5% or so.

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robotiser@googlemail.com - 18 Jul 2006 20:14 GMT
My fish look fine, though the temperature is high. However, there were
an awfully large number of dead fish, mainly sticklebacks, in the river
Soar today.
Marksfish - 18 Jul 2006 21:02 GMT
> I'm not sure how wise it is, but I have tried it in extreme weather and it
> does get the temperature down. That is creating your own fish tank
> icebergs :-)  Fill up a tupperware container with tank water, freeze it,
> and then put the resulting iceberg in the tank.

I do similar with old lemonade bottles. Since upgrading to marine, I am
having some terrible trouble at the moment keeping temperatures low for my
corals. The problem with the 2 litre lemonade bottle is that it floats on
the surface under the metal halide lighting and melts too quickly, also
blocks out the light. I have tried smaller 500ml containers in the return
chamber of my sump, but they thaw too quickly, in less than 10 minutes at
80F. I have just bought a fan which I am going to try and locate over the
top of the tank (mine is open topped by the way).

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Edward Cowling London UK - 18 Jul 2006 22:11 GMT
>chamber of my sump, but they thaw too quickly, in less than 10 minutes at
>80F. I have just bought a fan which I am going to try and locate over the
>top of the tank (mine is open topped by the way).

The heat loss from evaporation works very well. Ok I loose a good 3-4
gallons out of the tank in a week, but I do a weekly partial change
anyway. Even today my tank water never got above 82, even though the
room reached close to 90 at one stage.

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robotiser@googlemail.com - 19 Jul 2006 09:33 GMT
> The heat loss from evaporation works very well. Ok I loose a good 3-4
> gallons out of the tank in a week, but I do a weekly partial change
> anyway. Even today my tank water never got above 82, even though the
> room reached close to 90 at one stage.

Given what I've read in this group over the last few days, I've been
gently washing my filter media every day to keep water circulation
high, and I've left the top partially open today to encourage
evaporation. I don't think any of my fish are jumpers. Or at least hope
not.
Rob Stradling - 20 Jul 2006 13:31 GMT
I keep things just about stable by leaving the lids open (no jumping
fish!) and replacing the evaporated water with chilled (not iced) tap
water every few days. That said, most of my fish are tetras and cats,
which are generally very tolerant of varying conditions.
Edward Cowling London UK - 20 Jul 2006 13:49 GMT
>I keep things just about stable by leaving the lids open (no jumping
>fish!) and replacing the evaporated water with chilled (not iced) tap
>water every few days. That said, most of my fish are tetras and cats,
>which are generally very tolerant of varying conditions.

I've a few White Clouds who are borderline for a community tank anyway
as they prefer cooler water. But yesterday the tank never went above
82-83, so I'm happy I can keep them comfortable.

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DervMan - 22 Jul 2006 21:24 GMT
> After loosing a few fish in the summer of 2003 I've now got a reliable
> routine for keeping the fish cool. I leave the tank flaps up and let a fan
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> you need some way of keeping them comfortable. I change about 25-30% of
> the tank water weekly, so loss from evaporation isn't a problem.

Hmm.  I keep our thermostat set such that it stays between 24 and 25 degrees
C.  In the hot weather the tank temperature has reached 28 degrees.  I've
been watching the tank carefully... no ill effects.  However, the tank is
well planted and isn't especially well populated.  I've said to myself, I'll
take action if the fish start behaving strangely or the temperature reaches
28 degrees.  Fortunately, with 200 litres it's relatively stable in the
temperature stakes...

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