HOWEDY robert,
> Although it's quite all right for you or I or
You mean, 'you or ME," robert. An SPELLIN C-HOWENTS.
> anyone
You mean, 'anyWON'.
> to make our own private judgments
What JUDGEMENTS, robert? Do you mean
"You're JUDGED BY the company you keep.
When you lie with PIGS you'll awaken STINKIN
like 'm," like HOWE The Puppy Wizard's DEAD
DADDY SEZ?
> about people,
You sayin The Amazing Puppy Wizard's DEAD
DADDY LIED to HIS little baby Jesus, Robert?
> there is simply no way you or anyone can
> justify the rudeness that is apparent when
> you make these opinions public!
WOULD YOU BET YOUR LIFE ON THAT, robert?:
"It is by muteness that a dog becomes so utterly
beyond value. With him, words play no torturing
tricks.........., " John Galsworthy.
Like a confessor Priest? Don't bet your dog won't
tell on you... Their behaviors reflect our words,
actions and training quirks. Jerry HOWE, The
Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
> That's not what any of us are here for
You came here to learn HOWE to HURT
and INTIMIDATE your dog, robert. THAT'S
HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard
SEZ "DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST
HERE abHOWETS."
REMEMBER?
> and no one can possibly think
> themselves so righteous to be
> able to ignore basic etiquette or
> politeness!
Seems The Amazing Puppy Wizard gave you
your FREE copy of HIS FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual and offered
to give you any additional FREE heelp you
might need. REMEMBER, robert?
You didn't REMEMBER to say "THANK YOU,
The Amazing Puppy Wizard." DID YOU.
> If someone here wants to gossip,
The Amazing Puppy Wizard was KINDLY to
you, robert. HE offered to HEELP you. You
got EMBARRASSED on accHOWENT of you
don't LIKE being NICE to your dog, robert:
"Robert Meek" <rmeek1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:u5qdnY7SFLRNsODcRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
> Who or what is this "Puppy Wizard" guy and
> why is he so hostile?! No wonder humanity
> is gonna find itself at the bottom of the food chain
> someday! ,g>
Seems you was EMBARRASSED when you learned
you was a dog abusing mental case, like lush aka
diane from UK done... amongst others.
> that's their prerogative
HURTIN INTIMIDATIN and MURDERIN dogs
is NOT a matter of PEROGATIVE, it's a matter
of CRIMINAL INSANITY, robert. This is where
it gets DICEY, on accHOWENT of NHOWE
YOU KNOW, so you got NO EXXXCUSE.
AND THAT'S HOWE COME the KILLFILE
The Amazing Puppy Wizard campaines.
SEE?
Tough break, eh rob?
> provided it falls under the rules of the group.
HOWER group is led by CON-SCIENCE:
> > Greetings,
> >
> Is there anyone that moderates this group?
>
> This group is moderated by conscience.
We don't HAVE WON.
> If you don't like something someone has said
You mean, HOWER lying dog abusing mental cases?
> speak your mind in a non-offensive way,
Like THIS?:
Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How Wits End
Training Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey
And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That
Deals With Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built
On Trust And Understanding."
Disciple Paulie Writes:
I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.
Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and
say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the
request and I bet you'll find your dog thinking
then responding everytime.
A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule
applies to every aspect of the relationship with
your dog.
Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.
Paul.
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> I've read over Jerry Howe's "Wit's End
> Dog Training Manual" now several times.
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> Author of the "Warlady" & "Wartime" series.
> Download at "http://members.tripod.com/~jbigge"
=================
> >Jerry believes he's a dog trainer.
>
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> Ron Flanagan
> Orlando, Florida
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----- Original Message -----
From: Eric
To: jhowe2@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in..
Jerry!
You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago
regarding submissive peeing. Just wanted to let you
know he's doing great- he was "cured" in about 2 days
using your techniques!
He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!
Once I stopped thinking like a human and got inside his
head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter
of minutes. Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer.
I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed
'em, and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside
their heads and teach them to teach themselves how to
be good dogs!
Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...
Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I learned
from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate their brain rather
than beating a.s or pinching, or any of that nonsense.
I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to someone who beat MY a.s
lol!
Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes
out there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.
A horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship". He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows
any more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it
(pun intended)... Too cool....
Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!
Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard
==========================
Your PALS call them LIARS and FORGERIES
by The Amazing Puppy Wizard, dog abuser.
> as that will do more good that bullying will.
BULLY? The Amazing Puppy Wizard is puttin
these lying dog abusing punk thug coward
mental cases HOWETA BUSINESS.
> You honestly sound like some of the juvenile
> characters I've run into on so many different parts
> of the net lately,
Perhaps you should cruize arHOWEND better locals?
> where those who are now to big to hang out
> in the schoolyard pushing others around
Like THIS, robert?:
"The big problem all this closeness caused
at first was that he would lay down beneath
my wheelchair and he wouldn't move on
command so I couldn't move without running
him over!
But already I have him trained that when I tab
him on the behind with this stick I carry he starts
moving, either from underneath the chair so I can
move, or if I'm already moving, from in front of my
direction of travel."
> have taken up residence on some forum
These are The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Forums,
robert. The Amazing Puppy Wizard WELCOMED
you with your own FREE copy of HIS FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual and offered
you any addtional FREE heelp you might need.
You was OFFENDED just like HOWE professor
SCRUFF SHAKE was when he read the introduction
to his FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
just like HOWE you was, on accHOWENT of he
IDENTIFIED hisself JUST LIKE HOWE you done
IDENTIFIED YOURSELF as a DOG ABUSER,
robert.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard EXXXPECTS
dog abusers to not WANT to follow HIS FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
on accHOWENT of you PREFER to HURT and
INTIMIDATE dogs.
> where they feel superior
It comes with the terrortory, robert.
> and begin doing the same things again!
The Amazing Puppy Wizard calls it quid pro quo,
tit for tat, but you can call it ATTRITION.
> Have a little patience,
Don't NEED, patience, robert, on accHOWENT
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students
get 100% TOTAL NON PHYSCIAL CON-TROLL
NEARLY INSTANTLY and CURE ALL temperament
and behavior problems FOR FREE, to boot.
HOWER DOG LOVERS HATE THAT PART.
> a little understanding for the needs of others,
You takin anti psychotic medication, robert?
WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years
I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT
LITHIUM
"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50
mg of Zoloft every day.
I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
information I have learned. But if I were ever
to post such sh*t, I would hope that every other
reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."
"Community is an evolutionary thing that we
earn the right to participate in by observing
the easily understood rules and contributing
to in constructive ways."
Lynn K.
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"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her
- she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember
a comment she made about scarey side effects of
Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think
I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the
very real dangers of life without it."
Lynn K.
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> and try helping in a positive manner
Like THIS, robert?:
"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.
LYNN K. and LOIS E, and a BiLateral, BiPolar
conversation on Mental problems. LYNN AND LOIS
Almost 50 years on mental illness medications combined:
> But I think what Lois was referring to
> was the fact that Darlene actually
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> ups and downs and sudden
> enthusiasms..
"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her
- she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember
a comment she made about scarey side effects of
Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think
I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the
very real dangers of life without it."
Lynn K.
-----------------------------------------
LYNN K. and the UNQUIET MIND
From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com)
Subject: Re: Where is Darlene?
Date: 1999/09/03
BoxHill wrote:
> I know I am totally off topic here, but have you read
> "The Unquiet Mind"?
Yeah. It's interesting, but kind of
watered down for the mass market, if
you know what I mean. There's really
quite a lot of good work out there and
decent research. Thank God.
Lynn K.
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MOTHER AND CHILD REUNION "KUCKOO!! CUCKOO!!!"
MOTHER (LOIS E.) 22 YEARS on TRICYCLICS, DAUGHTER BIPOLAR...
YOU DO THE MATH
"What's really terrific, is now days you can say proudly,
'I take anti-depressives'"
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From: Gary & lois Edwards (garyl@bmi.net)
Subject: Re: Where is Darlene?
Date: 1999/09/02
BEEN ON TRICYCLICS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS
"I don't take lithium, but I've been on trycyclics
for about 22 years. Been there, done that, have
the t-shirt to prove it. What's really terrific,
is now days you can say proudly,
"I take anti-depressives". Back when I started
taking them it was seen as something shameful.
If you cut your leg off, and were lying there with
a bleeding stump, you'd never let the word
depressed, pass your lips, or the doc's would say,
"You're depressed, on medication? Well, can't have
any pain meds.....you could become addicted."
The good old days. I actually had a Great Aunt who's
father locked her in her room back in the twenties
because she was simple. A shame that medication
probably would have helped her live a normal life.
No Denna, I was just saying with Darlene's
personality, she has a way of making grandiose
plans when at the top of her manic cycle....as
does my daughter. I wasn't saying that anyone
with problems could be counted on to be
irresponsible."
Lois E.
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> instead of hurting those around you.
Like THIS, robert?:
captain arthur haggerty SEZ: "A CHIN CHUCK"
Makes A ResoundingSound Distraction: "When
You Chuck The Dog The Sound Will Travel Up
The Mandible To The Ears And Give A Popping
Sound To The Dog."
lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.
- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.
"An indelible impression can sometimes be made
by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration,
then leaving him tied by the mess he's made so you
can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish
him again for the same thing.
In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this
disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the
light spanking that some owners seem to think is
adequate punishment.
It will be better for your dog, as well as the house,
if you really pour it on him," wm koehler.
lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.
- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.
Paxil Princess psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."
"Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable
dogs may require you to progress to striking them more
sharply.
REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG.
Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of
as force-fetching: the ear pinch.
Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so urgent that
resisting your will fades in importance.
but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to
escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch
the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth,
get out the shotshell.
Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the
collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the
dog will give in
With your hand on the collar and ear, say, 'fetch.'
Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick.
Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy.
You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell instead of your
thumb; Say 'fetch' while pressing the dummy against its lips
and pinching its ear," lying frosty dahl.
"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.
Should I have refused to groom them?
Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."
Lynn K.
"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.
lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:
"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue
From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20
ginger57@my-deja.com wrote:
> How can I get him to quit chasing the cats.
Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.
"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.
Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."
8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).
If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.
This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."
Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob> wrote in message
news:<04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews>...
> >> Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
> >> quotes are true.
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> >> make those calls.
> >>Which one is it?
That's INSANE. Ain't it.
SO'S THIS:
"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???
"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."
You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING is COURTEHOWES?
"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?"
Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.
"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for
the first time, spray one squirt directly into
the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog
won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore
him and continue your normal behavior."
--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"
"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm
Over The Lab's Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite
Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat
And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her Ear,"
sionnach.
You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?
You think HOWER pals mikey are playin with a full deck?
> I promise you
The Amazing Puppy Wizard don't TRUST
you nodoGgamenedMOORE than your dog
trusts you, robert.
> that you'll feel a whole lot better
Perhaps if HOWER DOG LOVERS could do THIS
to The Amazing Puppy Wizard:
> He was next to me and I could see his neck
> muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye.
>
> Janet Boss
> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher
> > > than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
> > > dog like a Lab.
An INSENSITIVE DOG???
> and you won't ever have to worry about some fat,
Fat can be BEAUTIFUL, robert. You're a bit superficial
and CON-DESCENDING, for a crip, ain't you, robert?
> lonely, gossipy, dumb, cow, as you have characterized them,
Oh, THAT was Soup, aka CEO DogTV, aka Mental
HEELTH Activities and Affairs Coordinator, robert.
You've got to check in with him for safety sake. Your
MENTAL ILLNESS CASE HISTORY will be published
so other inconsiderate NON DOG ABUSERS won't
EMBARRASS you, knowin you're INSANE.
SEE? The Amazing Puppy Wizard is civic minded.
> coming over to your house some night and
> chopping you up into little pieces to feed to
> her dog
SEE? THAT'S a SYMPTOM of The Puppy
Wizard's SYNDROME, robert. That's caused
by bein SENSITIVE, a common trait amongst
DOG LOVERS, robert.
> just to get acknowledgement in the daily Inquire!
The Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn't give a damn
abHOWET you, your dog, or anyWON or any thing,
EXXXCEPT YOUR CASE HISTORY DATA for HIS
Human Behavior Laboratory.
> Nuff said!
INDEEDY.
> from Robert Meek dba "Tangentals Design"
> Personal e-mail: meek1@comcast.net
> > Hello Rich,
> >
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> >>>reporting live...
> >>>http://dogtv.com