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The Puppy Wizard - 29 Oct 2004 18:22 GMT

HOWEDY leah,

dfrntdrums@aol.com (Leah) wrote in message
news:<20041028235226.16546.00002900@mb-m16.aol.com>...

> >"Scotty OpAmp" scotty.opamp@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> > Mr. Loeb makes a lot of other unique claims in his book.
> > I can touch upon them if other people are interested,

For WHAAAT? His methods DON'T WORK CONSISTENTLY.

> > but I have had little success with this method.

BWEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

> I can see why!

Yeah. Seems paul got the same problems you got, leah.

> From what you've related here about Loeb,
> sounds to me like the best use of his
> book would be for kindling.

You hurt intimidate and murder dogs, leah.

> The best, most sensible way I've found to
> "show your dog who's boss" is NILIF.

That's INSANE, leah.

> And that's a very simple principle.

It's a LIE, leah.

> You are the owner of all resources.

That's INSANE, leah.

You can't even teach marie HOWE to train her
hyperactive dog Macula not to C-HOWENTER
SURF.

REMEMBER?

You HIDE the weein and slap yourself in
the head with a newspaper when you
FORGET to lock up the GARBAGE.

REMEMBER, leah?

> That makes you the Head Honcho.

Only if you AVOID the PROBLEM leah.

> No battle of wills, no confrontations.

You're INSANE, leah. IN FACT, your ADVICE
is HOWE COME scotty's puppy is GETTIN MEAN.

> You got the goods, and the dog can easily
> earn them from you.

Or he can RUN HOWET on you and get his own.

> Here's more info about it:

<snip crap link>

You'll NOTICE your PA k-0 deb took NINE YEARS
to train her own dog to NOT FEAR STRANGERS.

REMEMBER?

> Canine Action Dog Trainer
> http://www.canineaction.com

You're a FRAUD a LIAR a DOG ABUSER a COWARD
and ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASE.

HOWEDY leah,

"Leah" <dfrntdrums@aol.comMURK-OFF> wrote in message
news:20040929213107.29660.00005249@mb-m16.aol.com...

> >"Heidiz411" rhlheckle@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> > I simply took control. If she
> > would not respect humans as boss,
> > then what hope was there for her?
>
> Nobody is arguing that you needed to take control

From: mikael (mikael@dogtv.com)
Subject: NILIF ....the ceo breaks it down
Date: 2003-09-14 09:12:49 PST

Hello Melanie L Chang.

As you know, I'm a relatively brilliant guy, and I will
tell you what NILIF is all about.

NILIF (nothing in life is fun or free, fans) is a system
which is designed for humans with small minds who
do not understand dogs or their behavior.

It is a system which allows dummy humans to use
their human logic on a dog, because they are incapable
of envisioning how a dog thinks.

To a dog, NILIF is utter nonsense and it is incomprehensible,
because dogs are not obsessed with making silly systems
and "protocols" in order to allow them to understand life and
how it works.

Dogs perfectly understand everything they need to
understand to get by in this world. They don't need
any protocols.

It is PEOPLE who need the NILIF "protocols" and its accompanying
idiotic rules and regulations. Primarily
STUPID people. They need a protocol to hold their
hands because they are too stooopid to use their branes.

I'd like to direct you all to a free video, fans.

http://dogtv.com/4LANE3.rm

do you think that I taught that to my dogs by
"withholding privileges???"

BWHAHAHHAHAHHAAAAA!!!

do you think I taught that to my dogs by "showing
them their place in the hierarchy??"

BWHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!

do you think I put those recalcitrant rovers on a strict
idiot NILIF program in order to get that kind of control????

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

NILIF is for people who aren't smart enough to train
dogs from a dog's perspective because they can't
peer into a dog and peer out of a dog's eye view of
the world.

NILIF nitwits have to look through their own
goggles, and use flawed human techniques
and flawed human logic which doesn't even
work on humans....

BWHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

NILIF is what a wife uses when she withholds
sex from her husband to make him behave?

What does he do if he's a smart husband, he
goes out and gets some "free" sex somewhere
else???!!!

WHY BUY THE COW when you can get the MILK
FOR FREE???? OR why BOTHER WITH THE
COW if she's NOT GIVING ANY MILK???

BWHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!

have a nice day fans....

michael
reporting live...
http://dogtv.com

=========================

N.I.L.I.F = Nothing In Life Is FREE

HOWEDY People,

We always hear "trainers" say "enforce commands, don't
give a command unless you intend to follow through with it.
'Reinforcement NEVER ends'," (unless you know HOWE to
TRAIN the dog).

That's kind of a dichotomy, I think. Doesn't training
SUPPOSED to END A PROBLEM, not mean that we're
supposed to CONSTANTLY WORRY about the behavior
we've ALLEGEDLY trained???

WHAT GIVES, PEOPLE?

We got trainers telling us to constantly correct dogs
who've ALREADY been trained??? THAT'S NOT MY
EXPECTATION OF TRAINING.

The Nothing In Life Is Free method is tHOWEted as being the
most effective way of dominating an obstreperHOWES dog.
The idea is to cause the dog to subordinate himself to the
"AUTHORITY" of his trainer, and increase the dog's respect
for his handler.

O.K. Respect and authority are separate issues from where
I'm going with this. The entire concept of dominance is
wrong, but we'll put that off to another thread.

What do we do, when we are putting this aggressive or out
of control dog through the nilif program, and he chooses
NOT to do what he's TOLD to?

Are we supposed to give a command we KNOW cannot be
enforced, say for example with a dog who won't allow us to
handle him?

Don't you think you're going to look rather silly to the dog,
telling him that YOU are going through the door first, and
he's ALREADY pulling you outside? Or when you tell him to
sit before feeding him his breakfast, and he's already for a
toothpick?

Suppose Fido has an attitude, and you're trying to shove
some food in his head. You tell him to sit, and he doesn't sit.
So, he don't get his dinner. No big deal, he'll learn, RIGHT?

That may mean he's going to wait till the next meal time.
When you tell him to sit before taking his breakfast, he's
ALREADY quite eager to eat, and here's poor little YOU,
telling him that he's not going to eat till he sits. So, you put
him back in his crate. The dog is going to figure this out
REAL quick. Either sit, or don't eat, RIGHT?

So, next meal time, you take him to his food bowl, and tell
him to sit, and he takes one look at his breakfast from two
days ago, and says "uh, uh. I'm eatin, go pound sand."

NOW WHAT?

Next In Line Is a Fight.

THAT'S THE N.I.L.I.F. PROGRAM.

Someone's gonna get HURT.

Ask yourself "HOWE COME DOESN'T JERRY
HURT DOGS TO TRAIN THEM?"

And then just answer "On accHOWENT of JERRY
KNOWS HOWE TO TRAIN DOGS WITHOUT HURTING
THEM."

And THEN SAY OUT LHOWED: "IGNORE JERRY,
HE'S MEAN TO DOG ABUSERS."

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The Puppy Wizard - 29 Oct 2004 18:22 GMT

HOWEDY scotty opamp,

> This post is a reply to a post I made about two weeks ago.

It's on accHOWENT of dog abusing MENTAL CASES
like yourself that causes The Amazing Puppy Wizard
to IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you and
your punk thug lying dog abusing mentally ill pals as
the LIARS DOG ABUSERS COWARDS and ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES YOU ARE.

> Some how the thread seemed to disappear
> from my Newsgroup browser.

Yeah. SomeHOWE. That'll happen when
your mentally ill pals flood the group with
off topic postin. You been followin the Sox?
You got any good names for a puppy? You
fixin to go on a trip or have a birthday party?
You murdered your dog lately? What kinda
car do you prefer for takin your dogs to the
vet to be put DHOWEN?

> Leah,

leah is a lying dog abusing mental case who's
own dog bit her five times and destroyed her
HOWES and ruined her marriage and tried
to attack her brother in law on leavin her HOWES.

> you asked why I was throwing a sock at my dog.

On accHOWENT of you're a IMBECILE.

> On the recommendation from someone who
> trained German Shepard's, and Giant Schnauzer,
> I figured, I would pick up a copy of Paul Loebs
> "Smarter than You Think."

We'd think you'd be SMARTER than that, scotty opamp.

> I found the book to be rather insightful,

Yeah, but you've got a case history of familial
abuse and mental illeness. REMEMBER scotty?

> and a bit of a "new age" technique

You mean DHOWEBLE TALK.

> to traditional training.

You mean pain fear force intimidation bribery and avoidance.

> Anyways.

You mean anyHOWE, chump.

> Paul Loeb,

"Mr. Slappy," as he's known by on the streets of NYC.

> makes the point that to train your dog you,
> must show it that you are more powerful than
> it (probable not the right paraphrase,

Yeah. PROBABLY NOT the right phrase.

PERHAPS SMARTER would be MOORE
apupriate, but Mr. SLAPPY thinks SMART
means "IT HURTS when you SLAP ME."

> but bear with me).

You've got the floor, scotty opamp. Your
POSTED CASE HISTORY is PRECISELY
HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard
is hosting your FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Forums... ENJOY.

> He says the single most important thing you
> can do is get your dog to come to you 100%
> of the time.

Yeah, just like HOWE it SEZ in your FREE copy
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

Only PROBLEM is, paul ain't SMART enough
to teach you HOWE to do it NEARLY INSTANTLY
and FOR FREE, to boot.

> He calls his technique to do this the "Magic Touch."

Seems paul has been touchin hisself...

> Here is out it works.

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

> Sit down away from you dog. Ask your dog
> politely and in a full sentence to come to you.
> If the dog does, grab its collar and then immediately
> praise it. This is the end of lesson.

The END of the session is when you GRAB
the dog. The dog AIN'T gonna LIKE that, scotty.

> But, if it does not, throw something at it
> (NOT HARD) that will not hurt it.

> This is how the training works.

INDEED?

> Here is his philosophy.

Here's all the PHILOSOPHY you need:

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's
And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

> Dogs are unable to throw objects,

Tell THAT to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's dogs.

> and by throwing object you are projecting
> yourself to your dogs location.

Kinda like when a Mastiff or Dane gets a
string of slime droolin and flings it at you?

> The dog should be in awe of your ability to
> project yourself across the room without walking
> over to him, and immediately respect and
> respond to your authority.

Yeah. THAT'S PRECISELY HOWE THEY DO IT!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard DEFENDS HISSELF
by PRAISING the dog IN ADVANCE so they won't
throw the slimey spit at HIM.

> Well, this worked initially.

That so? But not for long, on accHOWENT
of the METHOD DON'T WORK on accHOWENT
of it relies on fear force and intimidation, not
TRUST:

Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands
How Wits End Training Really Works, They
Assume It's All Nicey Nicey And don't Realise
It's A Very Disciplined Method That Deals With
Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built On
Trust And Understanding."

Disciple Paulie Writes:

I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell
them they are good dogs and they seem to
follow me, once I told them they were bad dogs
and they ran away from me, now I only ever tell
them they are good dogs and they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say
"good dog" sincerely at the end of the request and
I bet you'll find your dog thinking then responding
everytime.

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies
to every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

Obedience and affection are not related, if they were
everyone would have obedient dogs.

Paul.

> After a while, the dog would grab the sock,
> shake it around and than run away.

Adios COME COMMAND, eh scotty opamp?

> I have since given up on it,

BWEEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Perhaps you've taken to touchin yourself?

> because my neighbors thought I was some kind
> of puppy abuser, throwing objects at my dog.

BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAA!!!

Wait till they see you MURDER your dog, scotty opamp.

> Mr. Loeb makes a lot of other unique claims in his book.

paul loeb aka Mr. SLAPPY is a dog abusing fraud
like your pals here abHOWETS, scotty opamp.

> I can touch upon them if other people are interested,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard thinks Lee and Canis55
and possibly taragreen2 and avrama "chin chuck
absolutely doesn't mean SLAP the dog" gingold know
or have met and observed paul abusing dogs on the
streets of NYC.

ENJOY.

> but I have had little success with this method.

On accHOWENT of it relies on intimidation.

> My vet was really pissed when I told
> her I gave my puppy human food

The Amazing Puppy Wizard feeds HIS dogs
the same same as HE eats HISSELF.

> so that my puppy did not begin to resent me.

You mean, for abusing him?

From: Paul B (NOSPAM@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: It doesn't work. Do it harder.
Date: 2003-02-19 00:05:10 PST

"Chris Williams" <k9apple@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:16008-3E52F7CF-697@storefull-2171.public.lawson.webtv.net.
..

> Interesting question posed in this article: why do humans
> persist in doing things that are unsuccessful?
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/02/15/H
> O240381.DTL

There may be a few reasons, sometimes it's ignorance,
simply a failure to realise what you are doing is futile and
you need to adopt a different approach.

Sometimes you may be learning a new technique and
need to experiment with it to be sure it's not just the way
you are applying it that is the problem, you may need to
try slight variations of the same technique to see
if there is a different result before you dismiss it completely.

Sometimes you are doing the only thing you can
think of, even though it's not working but you simply
don't know what else to do.

Either way as long as you are able to reflect and learn from
your experiences and move forward then a few failed attempts
are all part of the learning process.

My best example was teaching both dogs to walk to heel, alone
and together in the brace position. I was determined to teach
them without any aids (choke, prong collars or treats etc) and
without forcing the heel by jerking or restraining them using
a leash, I knew it could be done, despite the scorn of friends
and even family who "knew better" (but had never actually
trained a dog in their lives).

It took me a while trying various ways to entice them
to want to walk beside me, someone else at the dog
park whose dog appeared to heel very well (but held
it's ears back and tail down and looked very intimidated
about being at heel) suggested I give up and use a
choke collar like him, but I was obstinate.

One day like a switch it all fell into place, first one
dog then the other then both together all walked to
heel, then I tried without leads and it worked, the
dogs were happy and so was I.

I had persevered and succeeded and learnt a lot in the process.

People said "it took you long enough" but now I could teach
heel easily and quickly when I need to do it again. And now
when I walk my dogs and I see the same scornful people with
their dogs still pulling on the choke collars saying "heel,
heel" it's me who has the last laugh.

Paul

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbousie@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Leash pulling was Re: Prong Collars
Date: 2001-01-25 22:03:02 PST

Getting a dog to walk to heel is really a matter of getting
the dog to want to be with you. You have to be able to
command the dogs attention whenever you ask of it. If the dog
is pulling on a leash and you call it and it ignores you then
the problem is not the leash pulling but a lack of attention
on the dogs part, which in turn is due to a lack of basic
training. Once you can command the dogs attention anytime
then you can work on other exercises including walking to
heel.

Teach your dog the heel command so it sits or stands to heel
while your standing still then move onto a walking heel. Soon
as you move forward with your left foot say "heel" and praise
immediately, get and hold the dogs attention take a few steps
then turn right angles and take a few more steps all the time
praising and coaxing. If the dog breaks the heel ask him to
"come" so he sits in front of you then ask for a heel so it is
heeling beside you then move forward again with the left leg
while saying heel. Read Jerry's manual there's a good section
on teaching heel in there, it may seem long winded but if you
want a really good heel it's necessary.

Practicing the heel should be fun for both of you, when I was
teaching Sam and now when I give him refresher lessons he
loves the heeling exercises, I don't need a leash any more and
he will stick by my side as I turn left and right and stop
etc, he get very excited and jumps up without breaking the
heel.

I really don't think it's necessary to use anything other then
a flat buckle collar and a lead, both Sam and Roz were devout
pullers but they are both fine now.

Paul

--
See the dogs, cats, us and pics of NZ etc at my homepage.....

"We are what we do."

From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

>Paul B wrote:
>> While the concept of shake cans is not new,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> to Jerry (and Marilyn) and from my own experiences
>> is an important part of the process.

And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.

His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

--Marshall

=================

"Marshall Dermer" <dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>
wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu...

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST

Hello Marshall,

The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.

The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.

A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.

One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.

While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an important
part of the process.

> Thanks Paul! He does recommend praising
> a dog for barking, but he appears to recognize
> that this may not work and so distraction
> is recommended as a back up procedure:

>>> Until i read the Jerry method of Bark reductioon,
>>> it went something like this with our 11 month old
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Estel J. Hines

==============

> There really is NOTHING new about the advice above!

Nuthin EXXXCEPT HOWE IT'S DONE.
Here's MOORE SCIENCE, professor SCRUFF SHAKE:

> >Jerry believes he's a dog trainer.
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Ron Flanagan
> Orlando, Florida

-----------------------

> "Zack Pellers" <ZackPellers@GUESSWHERE.cc>
> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> -Jack

"Dan Moore" <mooreteam@worldnet.att.net>

wrote in message
news:fS2Lc.114567$OB3.42357@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.
..

> Tracy,
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Juanita

=======================

> Sound distraction may be understood in
> terms of the more general behavior analytic
> approach as follows.
>
> The distracting stimulus

Like a SCRUFF SHAKE, professor?

>evokes a behavior that is incompatible with barking.

You mean like SCREAMING "NO!" into ITS face
for 5 seconds?

> The dog engages in some other behavior

NO, professor SCRUFF SHAKE.

THAT AIN'T HOWE IT WORKS.

> and then is reinforced (if praise functions as a
> reinforcer).

NO, professor. You don't UNDERSTAND the METHOD.

> --Marshal

ANAL-yize THIS, professor SCRUFF SHAKE:

Here's professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM research
at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
"NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

******IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?*******

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works."

That's HOWE COME your dog has OCD behaviors
and is deathly ill from The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

And The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ you
can't post here abHOWETS noMOORE
cause you're a liar and a dog abuser and
a coward and a MENTAL CASE.

Here's HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches
HIS FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Students to train their critters NEARLY
INSTANTLY.

New Law Of Physics

HOWEDY People,

"The amount of misery and difficulty a dog abuser
has from their dogs is directly proportionate to the
number of times they've WARNED people to KILLFILE
Jerry and not study your FREE copy of The Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual..."

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of
Behavior Never Change, Or They'd Not Be
Scientific And Would Not Obtain Consistent,
Reliable, Fast, Effective Results For All Handler's
And All Dogs, NEARLY INSTANTLY, As Taught
In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual."

The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

Here's a couple of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students tellin you HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY and FOR FREE:

"The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard@earthlink.net>
schreef inbericht
news:DLpzb.2640$Qd6.1560@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

> You'll get ALL the INFORMATION you need in your
> FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> EXXXTINGUISH the HABITUAL aspect of this DIS-
> EASE.

My dog (a 1 year old Yellow Lab) was biting his tail
at the root (Vet said his anal gland was blocked, and
was causing an itch).

After squeezing it, he still wouldn't stop biting his
tail. The vet advised a neck-funnel (don't know wat
you US-guy's call those) so he couldn't reach his butt.

I hate those things, i think they will drive a dog nuts.

I tried the wits end method. (difficult to read such a long
textfile if English is not your native language) Luckily this
is without all the "HOWE's" etc.so at least it's readable for
somebody like me.

The minute he started to bite i trew my key's
next to him on the floor, and praised him (he
stopped biting and looked up when he heard
the sound) I did this 7 times,

after that the tailbiting completely stopped.
Just give the wits end method a try.

One of the possible downloadlocations
is http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

Hennie van Dalen
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11

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"Paul B" <abcde@clear.net.nz> schreef in bericht
news:3ff50d83@clear.net.nz...

> Both my dogs at some stage have licked a spot
> somewhere on their bodies and I have always
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> before long the dog has no more desire to lick that
> spot at all.

The same thing worked with my lab licking/chewing
problem too. He had an itch due to blocked anal glands
and started chewing and licking his tail at the root.

After the glands were squeezed, and the itch was
gone he still wouldn't stop. (because the place he
chewed raw was itching)

After some training (roughly the same methode as
yours) he stopped.

--
Hennie van Dalen
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/

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"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...

RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The F***ing
Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works
very good!

But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on
A4-size paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching
him something new takes about 30minutes
(depending on what to teach offcourse)

My other dog (a 7year old staffordshire terrier-mix) is a bit
slower in learning, but he is used to me calling him a "bad
dog"whenever he did something i didn't want him to do, or
it might be the age.

Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS to learn
something new: he wants me to bring along the can
filled with washers whenever we go for a walk. It is a
very "humane" way of teaching: the dog is allways a
"good dog", and never a "bad dog"

There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved.

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

-- Hennie van Dalen www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/

> Jerry, I am forever in your debt. The system you have
> created for training dogs is absolutely amazing!
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> Thank you for your service to humanity!

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