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Haemothorax

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jan_ko - 29 Jan 2005 21:39 GMT
We have a cat with haemothorax, dreinage of ca 60ml of blood was evacuated
after yesterday, so our cat got better. Hematocrit dropped to 23%.  Today,
again blood was
evacuited /about 60ml/ -with Ht - 15 %. What cause it ?? We still don't
know. Ultrasonography was done, X-ray, Kidney and liver work OK, No
inflammatory in system was diagnosed. What should we do now? Tommarow we
will get fresh blood.
We suspected neoplasma in respiratory system .
Please, may be a vet  answer for my question, tkank uoy
Andrija - 30 Jan 2005 11:28 GMT
> We suspected neoplasma in respiratory system .
> Please, may be a vet  answer for my question, tkank uoy

There are four major causes of hemothorax in dogs in cats- trauma, systemic
bleeding disorders, neoplasia and long lobe torsion. We could rule out
trauma as you would mentioned it, activated clotting time and platelet count
should rule out bleeding disorders,lung lobe torsion is very rare in cats
so the most possible diagnosis would be neoplasia of lungs or heart.
Sometimes it's not possible to cytologically ( looking the cells from
effusion under microscope) detect neoplastic cells but nevertheless that
test should be done.If all those test show up negative, your cat  might be
facing exploratory thoracotomy (opening the thorax in order to see what is
the cause of bleeding). Please, let us know about further developments.
jan_ko - 30 Jan 2005 12:55 GMT
This morning we got him 50ml blood  and he is better now. Thanks for your
suggestion.
This cat, spayed male, came to Poland 4 years ago from N.Y. City.  After
stabilisation -we gonna make an exloratory thoracotomy. Janusz G

> > We suspected neoplasma in respiratory system .
> > Please, may be a vet  answer for my question, tkank uoy
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> facing exploratory thoracotomy (opening the thorax in order to see what is
> the cause of bleeding). Please, let us know about further developments.
buglady - 30 Jan 2005 15:44 GMT
> so the most possible diagnosis would be neoplasia of lungs or heart.
> Sometimes it's not possible to cytologically ( looking the cells from
> effusion under microscope) detect neoplastic cells but nevertheless that
> test should be done.If all those test show up negative, your cat  might be
> facing exploratory thoracotomy (opening the thorax in order to see what is
> the cause of bleeding). Please, let us know about further developments.

......in the end what would be the purpose of opening up a cat with
suspected cancer of the lung and/or heart?  Just to know?  I wouldn't
imagine the prognosis would be very good with that diagnosi and treatment
choices probably aren't optimal either..

buglady
take out the dog before replying
Andrija - 30 Jan 2005 22:56 GMT
> ......in the end what would be the purpose of opening up a cat with
> suspected cancer of the lung and/or heart?  Just to know?  I wouldn't
> imagine the prognosis would be very good with that diagnosi and treatment
> choices probably aren't optimal either..

Depending on a skill of a surgeon and quality of equipment some tumors could
be removed.Heart tumors are probably beyond the reach of non-specialist
veterinary surgeon, but with lungs it's a bit different story. You could
remove a part of  lung with the tumor.  I don't know exactly about the cats,
but you can removed one entire side in the dogs, leaving him with only one
lung.
Howard McCollister - 30 Jan 2005 15:52 GMT
> We have a cat with haemothorax, dreinage of ca 60ml of blood was evacuated
> after yesterday, so our cat got better. Hematocrit dropped to 23%.  Today,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> We suspected neoplasma in respiratory system .
> Please, may be a vet  answer for my question, tkank uoy

The fluid that was aspirated from the chest cavity should have been at least
sent for cytology (microscopic evaluation of the cells in that fluid). That
could be *extremely* important diagnostic information. Ask your vet what
that showed.

HMc
 
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