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jccaruso56 - 15 Apr 2005 00:12 GMT
Hi......new to this group......and I am hoping someone could give us some
advice or maybe just an opinion.....my wife and I had our cat Tess(14
yrs),to the vets on monday,because she started drooling,and was not eating
well.....she is very finicky to begin with....but this was not
normal...anyway ,went to vets,and she had a tongue tumor,under her
tongue.Everything else is good (bloodwork)......so they said to get
(laser)surgery asap,....although the prognosis is very dim...so we did that
today,and she is home with us....she is resting and very alert ,and we are
comforting her ....has anyone had an experience with this?...Or have any
advice.....we are both taking this pretty hard....thank you for taking the
time to read this,and for any replies........jeff
jan_ko - 15 Apr 2005 16:26 GMT
Your vet should takes biopsy from a tongue tumor before or after surgey.
> Hi......new to this group......and I am hoping someone could give us some
> advice or maybe just an opinion.....my wife and I had our cat Tess(14
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> advice.....we are both taking this pretty hard....thank you for taking the
> time to read this,and for any replies........jeff
jccaruso56 - 15 Apr 2005 21:17 GMT
Yes....the biopsy is part of the procedure,....We  will have results in 3
days.... ....It has been 24 hrs later since surgery,....she will not eat
now,but is interested...and she is mobile,moves around,etc.......we have to
give her meds(anti biotic,and painkiller).....by eyedropper.........we feel
so helpless!.........thanks ,for any replies....jeff

> Your vet should takes biopsy from a tongue tumor before or after surgey.
>> Hi......new to this group......and I am hoping someone could give us some
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>> time to read this,and for any replies........jeff
Gail - 15 Apr 2005 23:35 GMT
Possible Cancer of the tongue in elderly cat.

June 1999

Q: Hi Dr. Mike,
I need a very honest opinion on what to do about my favorite little
calico, Mooshkie.  She will hopefully turn 16 in August but, I was just told
that she has a malignant tumor under the left side of her tongue.  It was
not noticed 4 weeks ago when i brought her in for a check up and when I
brought her back to have (what I thought) one of her teeth pulled, our vet
said that the drooling and licking and tongue hanging out the right side was
from an inoperable tumor.  She suggested to wait a few weeks then put her to
sleep or to have a biopsy done and see about some kind of chemotherapy that
cats supposedly respond well too.  However, she didn't think I was going to
extend her life that much and that the quality would be lessened.

I love my cat so much, and do not want to cause her pain, just to have her
leave me anyway.  I also don't want to lose a chance at a treatment if it
could actually work.  My vet said that this kind of "mouth cancer" was
common in cats. Is this true?  And is there any chance that they didn't
notice the tumor 4 weeks ago and then did two weeks afterward because they
may have used a "contaminated" needle during her check-up visit.  By the
way, they said that for a cat her age, her blood work looked good.

I'm just wondering if you had esperience witht his kind of cancer in cats,
and any chemotherapy that worked well.

Thank you in advance for your honest opinion.

Peg S

A: Peg-

My honest opinion is that your vet can't tell if this is a tumor by
appearance alone. That might sound weird but there are some disorders that
look just like tumors that aren't. So I think a biopsy is a really good
idea.

The most likely thing is that this is a squamous cell carcinoma. These can
sometimes be reduced in size with radiation or surgery and radiation. Lately
I have been reading about injecting these with carboplatin (a
chemotherapeutic agent)  but I don't know what the success rate is with this
treatment. It may be worth a try since it isn't too invasive. The radiation
is paliative, meaning that it won't cure the problem but may give her
several months of additional good quality life. Sqaumous cell carcinomas are
the most common tumor of the oral tissues in cats and they do occur with
some frequency.

It would be hard for me to decide to do radiation therapy for this tumor on
a cat of my own on the premise of an additional six or seven months of life
because I don't view that as long enough to justify the expense and
discomfort of radiation therapy -- but I have clients who have felt this was
worthwhile and still thought so after doing it.

Eosinophilic granulomas can look exactly like some tumors in older cats,
including oral squamous cell carcinomas. These are often responsive to
therapy with corticosteroids or other immunosuppressive medications and
would definitely be worth treating. I don't know what the odds are that this
would be the problem but they are fairly low. However, an oncologist that I
know to be straightforward posted a note on the Veterinary Information
Network that stated that she has seen several of these that she mistook for
cancer --- and that is her specialty!

Mast cell tumors can affect the oral tissues in older cats. These are more
responsive to radiation than squamous cell carcinomas, I think. I don't know
of an effective chemotherapy option for them but sometimes they respond at
least somewhat to corticosteroids and cimetidine (Tagamet Rx).

Realistically, the odds are really high that this is a squamous cell
carcinoma.  But I'd still consider doing at least this much of a work up:

1) X-ray the chest to see if there is any evidence of spread of a tumor 2)
Carefully check for enlargement of regional lymph nodes 3) Biopsy the lesion
to be sure it isn't something other than a tumor --- and to know for sure
which type of tumor it is.

At that point, you have enough information to make are a really rational
decision about how hard to pursue this.

Your vet might be squeamish about biopsies of the tongue. They can bleed
profusely. I can't remember a case in which we couldn't get the bleeding to
stop but I do remember having to really work at it once or twice.

Good luck with this.

Mike Richards, DVM
6/28/99

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Just a letter to a vet that I found when I googled the problem. Please keep
us posted on your cat.
Gail

> Hi......new to this group......and I am hoping someone could give us some
> advice or maybe just an opinion.....my wife and I had our cat Tess(14
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> have any advice.....we are both taking this pretty hard....thank you for
> taking the time to read this,and for any replies........jeff
Spot - 15 Apr 2005 23:47 GMT
It sounds like she's had a long life and you've taken great care of her.
I'm hoping that your cat is as lucky as mine was about 5 years ago.
Squeekers had a tumor on the back of his tongue at age 2.  In his case it
was thyroid tissue that had migrated (birth defect).  My vet removed the
lump and he's been fine since.

Celeste

> Hi......new to this group......and I am hoping someone could give us some
> advice or maybe just an opinion.....my wife and I had our cat Tess(14
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> advice.....we are both taking this pretty hard....thank you for taking the
> time to read this,and for any replies........jeff
jccaruso56 - 16 Apr 2005 01:21 GMT
Gail ...
thank you for the article...it gives us some hope...."Tess"has been a very
healthy cat,and does not look or act her 14 years.....more like a cat half
her age......it has been about 36 hours after the surgery,( she has stitches
under her tongue)....and she just took her first few bites of tuna ...and
also tried to drink some water....I previously gave her some Hills special
diet, soft, catfood, mixed with water ,by an eyedropper...got some food in
her....maybe an ounce....she was not to pleased,to be fed this way....but I
will try some more ....vet said it may be a few more days before the
soreness subsides...otherwise,she is still moving around,going up and down
the stairs at will....to all her favorite "sunning" spots....seems to be
herself...and a little pissed off at us,understandably...........we feel
guilty!!.....Hope we did the right thing......but most of all we do not want
her to suffer......thank you all for the replies......jeff

> It sounds like she's had a long life and you've taken great care of her.
> I'm hoping that your cat is as lucky as mine was about 5 years ago.
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>> the
>> time to read this,and for any replies........jeff
 
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