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Ebbtide - 06 Jun 2005 21:12 GMT
My Rotti/hound female loves to eat feces, cat or dog, she's not particular.
I acquired her from the shelter with a few bad habits that we have broken,
but not this one! She is always walked on the leash, however on her walk she
finds it. She is fast!  A female Houdini. To make matters worse, she has a
'glass stomach' and always has  vomiting and colitis after eating it. She
has been to the vet a few times and placed on sulfasalizine and a low
residue diet which takes care of it but not for several days.  Aside from it
being a filthy habit, I don't know how to break it or what to do. Perhaps a
soft muzzle on her walks??? Surprisingly she is better at the dog park, I
suppose it is the activity. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
A sweet and loving pet, not destructive and a real social butterfly, but
this is driving me nuts!!!

Joyce and her new friend Bandit.
diddy - 06 Jun 2005 21:20 GMT
<jnelsonnospam5348@cfl.rr.com> whittled the following words:

> My Rotti/hound female loves to eat feces, cat or dog, she's not
> particular. I acquired her from the shelter with a few bad habits that
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> Joyce and her new friend Bandit.

I had a dog that suddenly started eating feces at age 10.  He had a very
bad stomach with a lot of ulcers and pyloric scarring. The feces eating
made him ill, and after a pyloric valve reconstruction, it became critical
to NOT let him vomit, because it might cause him to rupture the stomach
suture line.
We added broccoli to the diet, and he stopped feces eating. (we added
broccoli, because he had some other issues that indicated he needed more
fiber)
When he got broccoli, he stopped feces eating.  When we omitted the
broccoli, he'd chow down on feces. He lived on broccoli additions to his
diet for the rest of his life.
Not saying this is a cure for your dog, but it helped mine.  And i have no
science to back me up, so why it did, is simply a singular case. It might
not help your dog. But yes, I've had this experience, and it's how i
handled it.  (It also stopped his grass eating)
Ebbtide - 06 Jun 2005 22:24 GMT
To the market tomorrow for the broccoli, and yes, she loves grass. The vet
said not to let her eat it. When her stools come out they are like a chain
reaction. Thanks, your suggestion ,certainly can't hurt. Thanks for the
quick reply.  I will keep you posted.

Joyce and her child who is in her terrible two's!!!

> <jnelsonnospam5348@cfl.rr.com> whittled the following words:
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> not help your dog. But yes, I've had this experience, and it's how i
> handled it.  (It also stopped his grass eating)
John Hasler - 07 Jun 2005 00:19 GMT
> My Rotti/hound female loves to eat feces, cat or dog, she's not
> particular.  I acquired her from the shelter with a few bad habits that
> we have broken, but not this one!

That's not a bad habit.  That's normal canine behavior.
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Ebbtide - 07 Jun 2005 00:48 GMT
Not when she vomits, has hyperactive bowel sounds for four hours and has
bloody stools.That's not normal.

>> My Rotti/hound female loves to eat feces, cat or dog, she's not
>> particular.  I acquired her from the shelter with a few bad habits that
>> we have broken, but not this one!
>
> That's not a bad habit.  That's normal canine behavior.
buglady - 07 Jun 2005 12:28 GMT
> Not when she vomits, has hyperactive bowel sounds for four hours and has
> bloody stools.That's not normal.

.............I think the first step would be training the dog to *leave it.*
You can do this at home in front of your house with a street salted with
treats.  When you take her for a walk you'll have to keep a really good eye
out for poop.  Take some pieces of steak or something else your dog may love
but doesn't get very often as a reward.  Keep your leash snugged up so
reaction time is down and in essence you end up steering her away from the
poop rather than yanking on the leash. Practice the leave it command.  You
might want to muzzle her on the streets for a while until she learns this.
Keep at it as it will take a while to break.  Sooner or later that piece of
steak will be more attractive than eating poop.  Going for a walk will be
work, not any kind of recreation until she's over it.

........I'd also load her up with probiotics for a month and maybe some
L-glutamine.  Sounds like her gut is not healthy.

buglady
take out the dog before replying
Ebbtide - 07 Jun 2005 13:48 GMT
Thanks.  She knows the leave it command, but once in a while that nose gets
too close to the ground.
I will take your suggestion about the probiotic and l glutamine. I was just
listening to a radio show re. this  and it crossed my mind about giving her
these meds. I appreciate your reply.

>> Not when she vomits, has hyperactive bowel sounds for four hours and has
>> bloody stools.That's not normal.
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> buglady
> take out the dog before replying
Steph - 08 Jun 2005 16:12 GMT
My dog doesn't eat poop (thank god!) but she loves to eat leaves.  We've had
her on a Gentle Leader since she was eight weeks old so she's used to it.  I
don't know if you're familiar with it but basically you lead the dog by the
nose.  So if nose goes down, pull up on leash and nose comes with it.
Versus the normal flat collar that you can pull and pull and pull and that
nose stays down!  May be something to consider to get a quick reaction to
get that nose out of the grass!
Please keep us posted with the broccoli addition.  It'd be nice to have
another suggestion to clients!

> Thanks.  She knows the leave it command, but once in a while that nose gets
> too close to the ground.
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> > buglady
> > take out the dog before replying
Ebbtide - 08 Jun 2005 17:10 GMT
Thanks for the suggestion.  I forgot about those. Broccoli is now the snack
on the walk.  She thinks it's grass.

> My dog doesn't eat poop (thank god!) but she loves to eat leaves.  We've
> had
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>> > buglady
>> > take out the dog before replying
YourWorstFreakinNightmare@InBox.Com - 14 Jun 2005 10:04 GMT
HOWEDY steph,

> My dog doesn't eat poop (thank god!)

Dogs eat poop on accHOWENT of they've been mishandled.

> but she loves to eat leaves.

Could be your dog got a OCD called PICA.

> We've had her on a Gentle Leader since she was eight weeks old

Yeah. That could cause Pica.

> so she's used to it.

You mean, she's used to FORCED RESTRAINT.

THAT'S HOWE COME SHE TRIES TO EAT WHAT YOU DON'T WANT HER TO.

> I don't know if you're familiar with it

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!

> but basically you lead the dog by the nose.

Basically you mean AVOID the PROBLEM on accHOWENT
of you DON'T KNOW HOWE to TRAIN the dog NOT to eat
what you don't WANT him to...

>  So if nose goes down, pull up on leash and nose comes with it.

Yeah. THAT'S HOWE COME dogs COMPULSIVELY TRY to do
EXXXACTLY OPPOSITE of what you try to FORCE BRIBE
and INTIMIDATE them NOT TO DO.

> Versus the normal flat collar that you can pull
> and pull and pull and that nose stays down!

Yeah. On accHOWENT of the opposition reflex, steph.

LeeCharlesKelley and Canis55 aka DEAMONCHILD 666
had been tellin us HOWE social gratification and
acceptance of PRAISE CURED their dogs of tryin to
eat pizza crusts off the grHOWEND and raiding garbage
cans in New York City in just a couple of repetitions.

You might wanna try the same same. But it AIN'T
gonna WORK for you if you're pullin on the dog
on accHOWENT of THAT'S HOWE COME they TRY to do
EXXXACTLY OPPOSITE of EVERY THING YOU WANT.

> May be something to consider to get a quick reaction
> to get that nose out of the grass!

Yeah. THAT'S HOWE COME your dogs TRY to be FASTER.

That's SHEER IDIOCY, steph.

> Please keep us posted with the broccoli addition.

The dog EATS sh.t on accHOWENT of dogs who've been
PUNISHED for HOWEsbreakin "accidents" EAT sh.t so
THEY DON'T GET PUNISHED someMOORE.

> It'd be nice to have another suggestion to clients!

Yeah. Broccoli don't hardly compete with sh.t.

PERHAPS you should oughtta QUIT givin "advice"
to "clients" on accHOWENT of YOUR OWN POSTED
CASE HISTORY reflects DISMAL FAILURE:

From: "Steph" <stephhigg...@rogers.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:20:44 GMT
Subject: Crate Training

I was wondering if anyone had any advice on crate training?
I have an eight week old black lab and she hates her crate.

We're trying to put her in after a long play time when she's
tired for short periods of time but it's hard because you want
to ignore her, but you don't want to keep her in there forever,
you don't want to let her out while she's screaming, but you
have to respect the neighbours as well!

She's not big on toys either.

We have a Kong, she's not interested in it.

We put some peanut butter in it, and she licked it
for about two seconds.  She has a squeaky that she
plays with sometimes and we just bought her a chew
that we though she'd love but she hasn't tried it
at all.

We tried putting a few treats in there but she'll
eat them quickly (yes she's a lab) and then start
screaming.

If anyone has any other suggestions that would help
her turn her crate into her home, I'd gladly appreciate
it!!

We got three hours of sleep last night so we're
taking turns napping today!  It's a good thing
she's adorable!! ;o)

From: "Steph" <stephhigg...@rogers.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:57:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Aggressive Rabbit - Out of Control

My bunny does something like that also.  He's eight
months old, "imitation" dwarf (he was sold to us as
a dwarf but now weights 8lbs).

He was very skittish when we got him so we socialized
him a lot and now he's the best bunny.  When we let him
run around the house he gets all excited, doing sideway
jumps and everything.

But when my husband goes to put him back, he
lunges grunt and bites at him.  He's usually
fine when I go to put him back. My husband I
snow afraid of him.

Gimli (my bunny) even grunts/lunges at him
when he goes just to feed him in his kennel.

There's nothing medically wrong with him he's
just got attitude and doesn't want to go back
into his home.

I don't know why he does it and why he only
does it to my husband.

From: "Steph" <stephhigg...@rogers.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:19:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Clomicalm for fighting cats??

I have my four year old cat on Clomicalm.  He has
severe seperation anxiety for my husband.  He would
just sit and cry at the door whenever he left and
would beat the snot out of our other six year old cat.

He also has anxiety when we go to bed.

He runs around like a mad man, paws at closet doors,
jumps on us, anything he can do to get us awake.  It
worked wonders on him.

He had really calmed down and became a very relaxed
mellow cat now.  He's like a 11lb cat (very long and
leggy, not fat) and he gets 1.25mg just before we go
to bed.

Its the lowest effective dose for him.  It can be a
scary drug as to side effects affecting the heart
especially.

But as long as the cat has recently been examined
by a vet and deemed to have normal heart, than there
really isn't a lot of concern using it.

I have tried the feliway diffuser for my cat that
lives with my mother because it'll just spontaneously
attack my mother.

It didn't do anything.  We've tried it in our clinic
for "attack cats" and I haven't seen it really work though.

 One of my vets swears by it but I personally haven't
seen it work to be a believer in it.
 
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