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7-year-old Lab rubbing mouth

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RACapowski@yahoo.com - 21 Sep 2005 03:47 GMT
My 7-year-old female Labrador Retriever has for the last couple months
developed an odd habit  -  when she's walking, she likes to rub her
snout through the grass on the sides.  She also rubs her snout a few
times with her paw once or twice a day.  I've looked this up on the
web, and this behavior seems to be connected with tooth trouble.  I've
looked at her teeth (front and back), and they seemed to be okay,
though a couple are slightly yellowed.  She also doesn't have the other
accompanying signs of trouble  -  she has no problems eating, she
doesn't whimper in pain, and she doesn't *seem* to drool.  (I notice a
couple slightly wet spots when she's lain her head down on the
bedsheets for a bit, but it doesn't seem enough for outright drooling,
vs. putting the wet side of one's lip on the sheets.)

I know, though, what it's like to have a toothache, and I don't want my
dog to suffer.  The problem is that my mom, sort of the Lab's co-owner
(co-person?) is very apprehensive about taking her to the vet.   We've
just moved to a new area, and while we have a recommendation, it's
still uncharted medical territory.  Also, since Sioux (our dog) can be
rather jumpy, any oral exams would probably have to be done with her
sedated.  This Mom doesn't like, as a) we had to put Sioux's mate to
sleep a little while ago, whom my Mom really loved, so the image of
Labs and needles doesn't mix for her, and b) she did lose a previous
pet due to a botched operation.  Mom's, in effect, afraid that the
sedative will harm Sioux, either killing off brain cells or killing
her, period.

Like I said, I don't want my dog to suffer, and her health comes above
Mom's apprehensions.  I would too, though, like to avoid putting Sioux
under if at all possible.  My question, then: is her behavior indeed
indicative of tooth trouble?  Is there anything else I can check before
bringing her to the vet?
diddy - 21 Sep 2005 11:05 GMT
in thread news:1127270868.163261.278860@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
RACapowski@yahoo.com whittled the following words:

> My 7-year-old female Labrador Retriever has for the last couple months
> developed an odd habit  -  when she's walking, she likes to rub her
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> indicative of tooth trouble?  Is there anything else I can check before
> bringing her to the vet?

A cracked tooth or problems below the gum line can cause this. It requires
a sedative for a VET  to examine the tooth and probe for problems.
Spot - 21 Sep 2005 22:15 GMT
While I hope this is tooth related I want you to be aware that this behavior
can also be a sign of bells palsy in dogs.  My dog Brandy did this for well
over 2 years and we always attributed it to her allergies when in reality it
was the beginning of bells palsy.

Have her teeth checked and if they are ok ask the vet about this.  The
behavior can come and go for a long time before it gets to the point that
it's really noticable.

Celeste

> My 7-year-old female Labrador Retriever has for the last couple months
> developed an odd habit  -  when she's walking, she likes to rub her
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> indicative of tooth trouble?  Is there anything else I can check before
> bringing her to the vet?
RACapowski@yahoo.com - 22 Sep 2005 04:15 GMT
If it is the early stages of Bells palsy, may I ask if there's anything
that can be done for her if we catch it early?  Like I said, we just
lost one of our pets, and it's tough to think about something serious
befalling the other.

Also, may I ask for someone to clarify about the hazards of anesthesia
for  a dog this age and size?  I'm just nervous for her.

Thanks very much to all for the help and patience.

> While I hope this is tooth related I want you to be aware that this behavior
> can also be a sign of bells palsy in dogs.  My dog Brandy did this for well
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>
> Celeste
Spot - 24 Sep 2005 01:07 GMT
Brandy exhibited signs for over 2 years with the face rubbing and the last
year her left eye would get all droopy occasionally.  I had to the vets to
have it looked at and like I said this can come and go and everytime we got
her to the vet her eye was ok.  Occasionally I would notice she would walk
drunk like or all stiff.  It became really noticable about 3 weeks after my
other dog passed away.  Her right ear went limp and then the side of her
face really started to droop badly and she was biting her lip because she
had no feeling in it.  We got her to the vet who then was able to tell what
was going on.  After I did research I found that her "old age" issues were
really this disease messing with her co-ordination to.

From the reasearch I did I really didn't find anything that seemed to help.
In some dogs it comes and goes and in advanced stages it causes real issues
with eating and drinking and usually ends with the dog having to be put to
sleep later on.

In Brandys case she had the bells palsy which we were dealing with but then
she exhibited signs of a seizure and collapsed 5 weeks later.  I took her to
another vet who felt at that besides the bells palsy she had a brain tumor
or a lesion on the spine which was causing total body paralysis.  We chose
to not let her suffer at that point.  Not that knowing what was going on
earlier would have made a difference.  I felt so bad because for the 6
months prior to this I had put so much time into keeping Barney comfortable
because of his cancer that I didn't pay as much attention to her as I should
have.

Celeste

> If it is the early stages of Bells palsy, may I ask if there's anything
> that can be done for her if we catch it early?  Like I said, we just
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>> Celeste
Nicole H - 24 Sep 2005 00:42 GMT
look into allergies. my lab did the same thing and she had horrible
allergies

unfortunately, teeth problems aren't always visible.  =(
take her to the vet.. she needs help
> My 7-year-old female Labrador Retriever has for the last couple months
> developed an odd habit  -  when she's walking, she likes to rub her
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> indicative of tooth trouble?  Is there anything else I can check before
> bringing her to the vet?
 
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