Pet Forum / Miscellaneous / Animal Health / October 2005

I just want to learn from

So sorry for the loss of your dog.  To learn more about what happened you
really should talk to your vet when you are able.  The vet knows your dog's
history and did the tests and xrays so has the first hand information to
discuss with you.  Sometimes it's hard to remember medical/veterinary terms,
especially when upset, so I ask my vet to write them down for me.  That way
I can look them up at home or ask about them on this list.
Margaret

HOWEDY jinxy,

Although The Amazing Puppy Wizard is NOT a veterinarian,
HE would suppose the drug Mitotane is NOT the best choice
for a dog suffering from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-
EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME:

WARNING: Mitotane causes your body to decrease its ability to
quickly respond to stress (shock, severe injury, or infection).
Mitotane may need to be stopped if you experience an injury,
infection, or other stressful situation. Your doctor may prescribe
another medication (corticosteroid) in a situation where mitotane
must be stopped. You will be closely monitored while you are using
this medication. Notify your doctor if you experience unusual
weakness, fatigue, dizziness or fainting, loss of appetite, nausea
and vomiting, diarrhea, or signs of an infection (e.g., persistent
sore throat or fever).

USES: This medication is used to treat cancer of the adrenal glands.

OTHER USES: This drug may also be used for other adrenal problems
(e.g., Cushing's syndrome).

Cushings is CAUSED BY STRESS.

There AIN'T NO SUCH THING as "spay
incontinence", it's a SYMPTOM OF STRESS.

INDEED?

BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!

ALL of your dogs have been suffering and slowly DYING
from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES, just like
most of the EXXXPERT'S dogs you're askin here for advice.

Seems THAT is discussed in the Mitotane precautions.

Of curse not. NUTHIN will CURE The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME
so long as you continue to MISHANDLE your dogs, jinxy.

Seems that's DISCUSSED in the Mitotane precautions.

Your dogs are obsessed with eating food, particularly sh.t.

Right. They're STRESS related.

Most of the EXXXPERTS you're askin have had MULTIPLE
dogs with MULTIPLE CANCERS CAUSED BY STRESS.

Because your vet will only blow smoke up your arse again.

You'll notice the majority of posters here have deathly
ill dogs, all suffering undiagnosable incurable chronic
similar DIS-EASES neuralgias nuro myopathies Cushings /
Addison SYMPTOMS chronic urine / bladder inflamations,
stones, even cataracts blindness and dental and peridontal
DIS-EASE are all triggered and exacerbated by STRESS like
in simply tellin your dog "NO!" a few times a day and
withholding bribes attention affection and praise.

Your dog had chronic ear infections and irritable
bowel syndrome / anal gland problems on accHOWENT
of STRESS destroys the AUTO-IMMUNE system and
digestion and inhibits absorbtion of enzymes minerals
and amino acids and increases cortisol and interluken6
and taxes EVERY nerve fiber in the body.

AND THAT'S HOWE COME YOUR DOGS HAVE BEEN CHRONICALLY ILL:

From: "jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 23:46:01 -0700

Subject: Dog spends day and night searching for food

I have a 10yr old dog. Last summer she got into the habit
of eating cat poop (from a stray) that was deposited under
our deck. I managed to clean up the poop but since then she
spends her whole day and evening sniffing for any food morsels
that may be in our house.

In the last couple of weeks this is all she does... She has
no interest in me and does not listen if I talk to her...she
just walks around sniffing for food on the floor. I should
add there is no food on the floor to find but she keeps
looking anyways.

We were at the vet a month ago and I asked about possible
worms etc..The vet said no cause her coat would look dull
and that she looked fine. She asked about her water drinking
habits (possible diabetes) but she doesn't drink excessively.

She eats Innova dog food and her weight is good. I don't think
this is normal and I'm looking for suggestions on any conditions
that could cause this behaviour.

Shall I get blood work done on her?

Would this show anything?

Or maybe it's an obsessive complusive thing?

              -------------------

SHAAAZZZAAAMMM!!! OCD'S~!

LIKE THIS:

From: "jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:43:14 -0600
Local: Mon, Jun 28 2004 1:43 am
Subject: Re: Uncontrolled Licking????

My dog has done this many times. He too licks upward.
He doesn't do as often anymore..but when thinking back
it happen a lot when he had some bad teeth way in the
back of his mouth. After he had surgery the constant
licking stopped.

He also did it a lot when he had chronic ear problems.
He still does it once in awhile but mostly out of
boredom or habit. It seems as though he is soothed by
doing this behaviour.

My dog suffered chronic ear infections for yrs. The vet
said it's just food allergies so he was on a special diet
for yrs as well. I couldn't stand it any longer so I got
a second opinion..and bang this new vet did testing and
found out it was a yeast infection.

After two weeks of medication he was cured. It's now been
two years and his ears have been healthy ever since. Also
a couple of months after the treatment I tried putting him
back on a normal dog food..he's been on it ever since.

From: "jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:42:56 -0700
Subject: Dog barking while I'm talking to someone [long]

This has become a huge problem. My dog is almost 8. When out
for our walks we usually run into a neighbour. Of course the
neighbour will stop to chat..but my dog will start barking
non stop the whole time.

The dog will sit, but will try to squirm out of it. His
bark is a yelping, high pitch noise.

It is to the point now where he is constantly looking
behind him to see if any car or person is coming. If
he sees a car coming towards us he starts barking
ahead of time.

All the neighbours have stopped having chats with
me cause it's impossible. I'm very embarrassed.

He loves everybody so aggressiveness is not the problem.
He is attention seeking.. I have cured him of this problem
at one time. It was suggested to me to take his lead and
wrap it around his mouth gently so it acts like a muzzle.

This actually worked right away and lasted a few months.

Now the problem is back, and is way worse then ever. I
did the lemon juice in the mouth thing..(it didn't phase
him) A squirt bottle did nothing. I have not tried food
because he never behaves during the problem time.

I need more suggestions. I'm thinking of getting a trainer
to teach us whatever then have him/her approach us several
times.  Wouldn't the dog just get used to the trainer though?

From: "Jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:29:44 -0600
Subject: Two dogs Two different problems

Dog #1... We walk by a house everyday and the homeowners
dog comes barreling down towards us barking. He's bluffing...

Now my female dog has to poop right in front of this house
each and everyday. I do let her out before going ..but she
only goes pee. What can I do to stop her from pooping in
front of their house.

Also why is she doing this?

To get back at the dog?

Is it ok to tell her no and keep walking even though she
is in the hunch over position? I know that sounds bad to
make her walk anyways but I think I read it in a book once.

She has done this before...different dog, different
house. That went on for over a year of her pooping
right in front of the house.

Dog#2...This dog male was just stung by bees the other
day near his rear end. It was very tramatic for him as
the bees clung on to him as he ran around barking trying
to escape. He is ok health wise..but if he is outside and
hears buzzing he quickly turns to look at his rear end and
starts barking non stop. On our walk he does the same thing..
except he will keep stopping and checking his rear end over
and over again.

Kinda like it's turning into a OCD problem.

Will he forget about this come winter when there
is no buzzing? I don't say anything to him when
it's happening.

Don't want to reinforce anything.

What shall I do?

Thanks

From: "Jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:28:03 -0600

Subject: Re: Two dogs Two different problems

LOL She has always been the type of dog that just comes
to a halt when you least expect it to do her business.

No sniffing, no warning. If you try to keep going she will
stay in her poop stance while you are basically dragging
her.

She seems to like to poop and peep on the road (we
are rural) not on grass or bush.  My other dog has
to be deep in weeds in order to do his business.

I will try harder to get her to go at home first.

From: "Jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:44:53 -0600
Subject: Dog that has simply stopped listening question

Hi.

I've noticed in the last few days my dog has stopped
listening to my commands when we are at an off leash
area.

He is 8yrs old and has always listened when off leash
in the park. In the past 4 days we have gone three times.

The first time we went he was ok then suddenly he took
off running ahead and just kept going and going not even
looking back to see if I was still there. I was shocked
and kept calling his name but it's like he didn't hear me.

Finally he showed up out of the bushes.

I thought oh well maybe he smelled something.

The next day different park..everything seems ok..then
bang off he went running and running like he is on some
mission or something. He ran down into a slough..he doesn't
like being wet..so I don't understand why he did that.

He knows the 'Stop' command but it didn't work, nor did 'come'.

Today we go again..everything seems ok...he took off again
and just kept running all the way across the park...this is
acres away from me.

He just doesn't seem to care suddenly.

This is a dog who will run only a few feet ahead and
then stops to check to see whether I'm still with him....
it has always been this way since puppyhood.

I know for sure I will not let him loose again (although
the off leash areas are very safe) Do I have to retrain
him the come command?

I will..but it seems odd that after all these
years of using it he has stopped listening.

Oh he is not going deaf I checked for that.

From: "Jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:15:16 -0700

Subject: Re: Would like information on mixed-breeding

I'm glad this topic came up. I'm feeling totally frustrated
about the whole purebred dog thing versus mixed breeds. A
little background.....

I've owned two mixes and 4 purebreds. Currently I have two
of the purebreds. All 4 dogs came from extremely good lineage
and all parents were tested for hips/eyes etc...

All the dogs came from different breeders all highly
respected in their breed club and around the world.

All the dogs have had numerous health problems ranging
from heart,epilepsy,allergies,aggressiveness.

My current dogs are experiencing new problems just this week.

It seems endless..you get one problem under control..then
the next problem pops up, and off again to the vet. Another
thing is reading all the different breed health problems..my
goodness has it got worse?

Or has all this health problem stuff always been around?

It scares me to even get another purebred puppy someday,
because I'll be wondering if the poor thing will get some
disease no matter how much research I do on a breeder.

It truly saddens me.

I've spent thousands on vet bills over the years and vet
costs are getting higher and higher each time I go. S

ometimes I wonder if I'll I ever experience a dog that
could go through adolescence and adulthood with out
getting sick with something. Don't get me wrong..

I would never change having the joy of owning my dogs..
but it's terrible to have to watch them get sick.

From: "Jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:53:23 -0700
Subject: Diarrhea in two dogs

My eldest dog (11) developed extreme gas followed the
next day with diarrhea. She would do her thing outside
but when she comes back in she continues to leak poo.

By that I mean it smears on the floor (wet poop) which
kinda cleans it off her anus area, but then if you look...
more starts to come out.

I held back food for 24 hrs and gave her some Pepto Bismal.

The next day I fed her just rice..sm amounts throughout the day.

Yesterday which was the third day of all this she seem to
stop leaking but still had very soft poop. My other dog
developed diarrhea yesterday as well and had it all through
the overnight and this morning. He went all day with nothing
but now he has started getting the runs again.

He is not leaking like the other dog.

Like I mentioned above my eldest dog seemed to be improving
yesterday..but now tonight she has extreme gas again, and is
really leaking. Both dogs are happy and hungry..no lethargy
or vomiting. We are on the four day now and I'm wondering if
it's time to take at least the eldest dog in?

I've never seen anything like this before lasting more than
a day..and of course the leaking. Both are house dogs that
never get into garbage etc..The only thing is I bought a new
bag of their usual food last Sat. (Innova) The date on it
is ok..but I wonder if the food is spoiled?? Or is their a
bug going around affecting dogs lately that I should know about?

From: "jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:32:41 -0700
Subject: Re: Back legs shaking

My dog has just started to shake in the legs as well. It
started about a month ago. She is almost 11yrs old. We went
for her shots last week, and I asked the vet about the shaking.

She didn't seem concerned and basically passed it off as
an old age thing. In other words I never got a good answer.
As you posted..my dog is very active too, but when she
stands you can see

From: "Jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:00:45 -0600

Subject: Re: Recurrent Ear infections

My dog had chronic ear infections as you describe..but in
his left ear. This went on for yrs with the vet just prescribing
antibiotics and doing ear flushes.

Finally I seen a different vet (the other one wasn't there)
and right away she suggested they check out the goop. It
ended up being yeast..and it was not only in his ear but
all over his body. He was put on heavy duty meds for two
weeks..we have not seen an ear infection going on 3yrs now.

From: "jinxy" <j...@look.ca>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:46:54 -0600
Subject: Possible heart problem?

My dog (female) who is 11yrs is acting very restless
when outside. A little background.....

Has had a minor heart murmur since puppyhood

She suffers from spay incontinence and is on Stilbestrol.

Last summer I noticed during hot weather she seemed very
panicky while outside. Meaning she just wants to go inside
and she pants quite hard.

Same thing on a walk. During cooler weather she is not so bad.

She drinks a lot as well. Now this summer it has gotten worse.
She is not interested in outside except to pee etc..Then she's
waiting at the door panicking and panting.

When I let her in she runs desperately to her water bowl.

I've avoided taking her for walks in any kind of mild weather.
Only when it's cool outside. She doesn't seem interested in
sniffing, but will do the walk. She has a huge appetite and

I'm starting to think she has diabetes.

The only thing is why is she getting so hot outside?

      =====================

Your dog "gets hot outside" because YOU JERK and CHOKE HER!

            The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ( >

                Punishment Deranges Behavior.
        "NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
                        EXCEPT
                  To DERANGE Behaviors.

Here's professor dermer pryor:

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

    And how do we know this aspect of his
    advice is right?

    Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
    His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

    (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
    few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
    ill-mannered, or just plain ill.­),

    --Marshall

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:

   "We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
   Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
   God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
   Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent­,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts ­to
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer

Subject: < BEFORE ->  "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
                     No Good Charlatan,"

< AFTER ->  "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
           A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
           Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
           Dog Lovers.

          'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
          A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.

Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?

Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman

=====================

<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.

Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names.  Naive is thinking that dilettante  dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey  (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools?  I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===========

Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy, "you insipid piece of cow dung!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400

Dear Jerry,  I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.

I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University.  I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.

There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.

Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques.  Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology

From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:26:31 GMT

Subject: Dr. George VonHilshimer Writes: "No Loving, No Learning."

HOWEDY People,

Perhaps the PROBLEM is "TOO MANY WORDS?"

From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
To: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop

Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.

This is not negative reinforcement.  Negative means no.

Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;

Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;

Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;

The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;

Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately turned off .

There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? --  too aversive.

I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's CUMULATIVE
RECORD.  Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.

NO PUNISHMENT.

Must pay attention to who is the animal?

His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog?  So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.

I suppose I could wire up a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than
the methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.

Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.

Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.

You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.

Fondly, Dr. Von

     From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
  The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry

From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.

Mike

"Ama...@DCFWatch.com" wrote:

No, the dog learned that I would hold still
the second she began to pull.  She would pull
to go where *she* wanted.

Well if she wanted to stop and go in another
direction.. say to sniff my neighbors yard..

she learned if she wanted to do it I would stop
walking and she could go.. and if there wasn't
enough slack on her lead she would just pull me.

Then when she got done doing *her* thing, she woudl
heel.. smile at me and wait for me to say "let's go"
and finish *my* thing.  I would refuse to move .. i
looked like an idiot.. freezing mid walk for minutes
waiting for *my* dog to heel and give *me* permission
to go again.

I did the treats and the let's go... she got to do her
stuff and get a cookie.. if she even wanted the cookie.

I wound up calling Jerry.. as I have a half red nose
pit and half amstaff.. who is incredibly protective..

we had a new pup on the way.. and i needed help.. i
followed petsmarts trainnign guides.. memorized them...
and they *did* work, don't get me wrong.. but only
when my pet wanted a cookie or felt the cookie was
better than what she wanted.. which was not often.

She quickly learned to ignore my commands if she
could see my hands were empty.  So I called Jerry...
he chatted me for about an hour and a half.. gave me
his link... and even when i had probs intro'ing the
pup he called me withn i5 mins of my email for help
at 10pm on a sunday night.

One.. singular.. uno family pack exercise after
the hot and cold exercise and i could zig zag
down my street.. about face .. whatever.. and
never had tension.

two men were acrossed the street and she walked right
by them... ordinarily she'd snarl and protect us.

And in two days.. my dog.. who bit the puppy if he
even looked like he was going near my husband or kids..
is nursing him every hour.. cleaning him.. rough housing
gently.. and teaching him to go potty outside..

actually watches him to make sure he doesn't go in
the house... and has milk.. which is awesome since
she's 19 months old and has never had a litter.

She also has stopped barking non stop at our neighbor's
dogs and pig.. does not bark at eveyr car that drives by
and has stopped jumping on people.  she's even starting
to ignore our cat who has lived on her dome litter box
and our window sill (literally) for over a year and a half.

She also does her commands on cue..  and doesn't look for a treat.

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Subject: The Amazing Jerry's take on psychobabble
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:13:44 -0400

   You might improve the learning of folk who actually
live with and train dogs to do useful things if you
excluded everyone who uses psychobabble from your lists.

I recommend to all of you who wish to taste the flavor
of sensible animal behaviorists to read THE MISBEHAVIOR
OF ORGANISMS, Breland and Breland.

This married pair of psychologists began the long trail
of highly trained animals who are symbolized by Shamu
eating a mackrel from a girl's hand instead of eating
the much more tasty pretty girl who is exactly the size
of the natural food of killer whales, seals.  Yum!

The essay, by the way, is a chapter in B.F. Skinner's
summing up book, CUMULATIVE RECORD.  They include a
sentence which more or less says, "unless you understand
the personal history of the particular animal, and the
history of this animal's species and group, the developmental
history of the animal, you cannot effectively train the animal.

Pigs root and hen's scratch, if you try to train hens without
scratching or pigs without scratching or pigeons without pecking,
you aren't going to have much success.

A conditional reflex is one which is learned, the original
primitive reflex occurs no matter what the history of the
animal, and is hard wired.  If you train the animal to respond,
say by ringing a bell immediately before turning on a bright
light, then you've taught the animal and made his native reflex
of pupil constriction conditional upon the ringing of a bell.

Thorndyke added some terminology to this kind of training
and insisted that when you train the animal to make gross
motor responses that this learning is "instrumental", the
animal takes action and uses an instrument.

The Russian word translated as "conditional" in all other
contexts was mistranslated by Pavlov's American translator,
Horsley Gannt, as "conditioned" and so American psychology
went haring after phantasmagora.

The major theorists for the development of the language of
operant conditioning are Edward Thorndike, John Watson, and
B. F. Skinner. Their approach to behaviorism played a major
role in the development of American psychology.

They proposed that learning is the result of the application
of consequences; that is, learners begin to connect certain
responses with certain stimuli. This connection causes the
probability of the response to change (i.e., learning occurs.)

Thorndike labeled this type of learning instrumental. Using
consequences, he taught kittens to manipulate a latch (e.g.,
an instrument). Skinner renamed instrumental as "operant"
because in this learning, one is "operating" on, and is
influenced by, the environment. Where classical conditioning
illustrates S-->R learning, operant conditioning is often
viewed as R-->S learning since it is the consequence that
follows the response that influences whether the response
is likely or unlikely to occur again.

It is through operant conditioning that
voluntary responses are learned.

One should note that Russian Psychology did very well
without the operant language, and only pettifogging
university professors ought to worry about what kind
of label we attach to the learning.  Pfui!

Even Skinner understood this!

And please note if you saw the original movie, THE
MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, you saw a Chinese psychologist
who was based on Andrew Salter, CONDITIONED REFLEX
THERAPY.

Alas, Salter didn't have a Ph.D., but he basically rescued
us from the long Freudian nightmare and returned psychotherapy
to a scientific basis.  Alas, the 2nd movie didn't even cite
Salter as a source.  "...all the highest nervous activity, as
it manifests itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a
continual change of these three fundamental processes --
excitation, inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.

What's important is, "does Shamu reliably eat
the fish and not the pretty girl?"

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

       "Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
       news:

       I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
       dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
       I do not know what started the problem but he came
       aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
       snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
       and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
       ad I took him with me everywhere.

       At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
       Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
       clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
       it was not working on his aggression problem.

       I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
       trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
       They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
       and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
       suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
       working as he was becoming more aggressive.

       I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
       away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
       on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
       use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

       I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
       ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
       LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
       University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
       had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
       gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
       have the people stop until he could get in control using
       treats, and work on clicker training.

       At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
       the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
       would not come when I called him and would run away when
       I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
       neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
       hasn't trained her dog"

       I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
       were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
       were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
       said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
       say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
       responsible for him."

       *(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
       DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

       As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
       going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
       Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
       Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
       He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
       not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

       The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
       I had been working for 18 months!

       Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
       from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
       I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
       blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
       can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

       I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
       -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
       looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
       on by.

       When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
       me like "you must be out of your mind"

       The results can make a believer!!!

       Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
       Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
       in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

       He just seemed to not notice any one.

       When people talked to him or ask his name he would
       look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

       I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
       enjoy life out in public.

       If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
       was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
       Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
       toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

       My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
       dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
       out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

       I know most people would have given up on him a long time
       ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
       but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

       I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

       ================================

       From: Linda Daniel
       To: Jerry Howe
       Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
       Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

       Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
       to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
       save so many lives.  I know at times I was so frustrated I
       thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
       have but many people would have.  The world just does not
       know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
       solve problems.

       We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
       -just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
       you could meet us would be great.  I drive so I would be
       happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

       We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
       right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
       scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
       would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
       to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

       He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
       those on rollerblades!  I have always used a gentle leader
       in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
       grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

       Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
       stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose.  He never
       pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
       a hard time getting him going--at times  I think he could
       smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

       I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

       I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
       walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
       a problem with other people and dogs.

       I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
       to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
       around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
       treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
       coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
       and not move until we backed away-

       - can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
       until I get his attention with treats.

       They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
       but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
       him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
       sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
       to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
       heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

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So how is one to know that their dog has cancer somewhere?

........If you really want to know what the actual cause of death was you
should have had a necropsy done.

....... There are no specific blood tests for cancer.  Some animals have
perfect blood work.  Sometimes the calcium is elevated or the white cell
count is out of range.  Cancer symptoms are varied (e.g. limping, loss of
appetite, vomiting or diarrhea, etc.) but usually you know the dog is sick
or something is not right.   In a case where you have an endocrine imbalance
(like Cushings) it is difficult to know if there's anything else going on
unless there are lumps you can see or feel.   About the only thing you could
have done was insisted on a set of X-rays for the major organs, but even
then it might have been too late to address the problem.  Unless the
Cushings was related to the cancer (adrenal gland tumor) having these two
things going on at once was a fluke and there's no real way to prepare for
it.

......I'm sorry for the loss of your friend.

buglady
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