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HOWEDY racetrack silly,

You mean your dog is DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE
DIS-EASE and the NORMAL NATURAL INNATE PREDICTABLE EFFECTS
of PROLONGED JERKING and CHOKING and LOCKING IT in a box
and IGNORING and PUNISHING her constant barking whining
and crying.

From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@ncweb.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:15:53 -0400
Subject: Re: One more thing the trainer said

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:06:00 -0400, Janet B
<j...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com> wrote:

I'm betting there was some oxygen deprivation
somewhere in there, and she has some brain damage.

Sounds just a bit like our Abby, who's 16 next month.  Abby
was charging the dogs a few months ago, losing weight, and
she's probably the one who was/is spraying the file cabinets
in the den.  I was thinking hypothyroid, especially with the
aggression toward the dogs (she and the guest mini Dachshund
would actually have boxing matches, which, since they were
harmless, were hilarious), but thyroid levels were normal.

Vet presumptively diagnosed IBS, and she's been much better
on prednisone.  We think she had a stroke at some point,
though, or maybe mini-strokes or something.  She has the most
incredible blank expression, sort of "hello, you look like a nice
person, who are you?"

She darted out the back door at night a couple of months ago
and gave us all heart failure, so she now wears a safety
collar and bell.  She can't jump up onto a chair seat and is
pretty wobbly in the rear, and for the first time in her life,
she seems to like being carried around.

Definitely kitty Alzheimer's.

Mustang Sally
HOWEDY racetrack silly,

You're SCARIER than any hobgoblin from the depths of HEEL.

Whopiee!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard NEVER HEARD of THAT!

Isn't he physically and emotionally CRIPPLED?

Yeah. Work. YUK!

I'll have to look up the condition. I'd BET MY LIFE,
DHOWEBLE OR NUTHING that it's a STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

INDEEDY! I guess I get to live another milennium!:

       "Roaring" or laryngeal hemiplegia is due to a
neuropathy of the reurrent laryngeal nerve on the left
side. The muscle which abducts the left vocal cord
is therefore paralyzed, and the resulting turbulent
airflow causes the noise.

       Surgery generally involves "tying back" the
vocal cord, sort of like tying back a curtain, although
there are some experimental procedures on nerve
transplantation being tried.

      Surgery is about the only treatment for the
condition.

       I can't see where sweating the neck would
worsen the condition, unless there were only a
partial paralysis and pressure was somehow put on
the nerve, which seems unlikely.
               --C.M.Newell, DVM
(owner of the World's Most Expensive Free Horse,
who had tieback surgery *twice*)

Of curse! All she NEEDS is a STRESS FREE environment.
My larynix goes HOWETA WHACK if I'm stressed, just
like my knee, ankle and back, all STRESS INDUCED DIS-
EASES, racetrack silly, JUST LIKE the SEIZURES four
of your dogs are goin through and the CANCERS four
of your dogs DIED from, racetrack silly!

Your dogs ALWAYS recover from their stress induced
auto-immune DIS-EASES because THAT'S the NATURE of
The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME. Till they DIE from it,
usually at your own hand. But this one DON'T LOOK
GOOD because it's CAUSED BY jerking choking shocking
crating bribing and witholding attention affection
rewards and unconditional love trust and respect:

"Conditions such as neuromuscular or metabolic diseases
(myasthenia gravis, hypothyroidism), trauma (bite wounds
or blunt trauma to the neck), inflammation or neoplasia
may lead to laryngeal paralysis."

"Most of the time, the specific cause
of the muscle paralysis is not known."

It's CAUSED by STRESS, just like my laryngeal
problem which muted me for 8 months many years
ago and reocurs NEARLY INSTANTLY if I should
ever lose my temper.

"Occasionally, laryngeal paralysis is only one sign
of a systemic neurological disorder, but most of the
time it is a problem that occurs by itself. Clinical
signs of laryngeal paralysis are related to failure
of normal movement of the vocal folds."

IOW, The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME!

HOWEDY racetrack silly, you dog murderin mental case,

The dog's behavior would be different in his yard.

You can tell alot abHOWET a dog by his toilet habits
JUST LIKE HOWE you can tell alot abHOWET a dog by his
tail. S-HOWENDS like this dog is MARKING with her POOP.

While it COULD be a veterinary problem it PROBABLY AIN'T.

What parasites would cause this behavior,
racetrack silly? Don't seem to be a SYMPTOM
of parasites.

Could be.

But is's PROBABLY a SYMPTOM of anXXXIHOWESNESS.

You can figger THAT HOWET by EXXXAMINING HOWE
the dog is being handled and trained...

There AIN'T NO SUCH THING as a "dominant" anything.
That type of behavior is LEARNED, COPIED from their
ABUSERS.

NO PROBLEM. ANY behavior that's CONSISTENT
REPEATABLE or PREDICTABLE is EZ to EXXXTINGUISH
NEARLY INSTANTLY using effective non physical
scientific and psychological conditioning
techniques as taught in YOUR FREE COPY of
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual <{) ; ~ ) >

S-HOWENDS like ANXXXIHOWESNESS, not "MARKING."

You think so, racetrack silly?

THAT AIN'T gonna TRAIN the dog not to
do that noMOORE, racetrack silly <{); ~ ) >

She won't move, racetrack silly.
He'd have to DRAG and CHOKE her.

You're a IDIOT:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

Nope.  No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.

I'm starting to see some similarities here.

Sally Hennessey

"My spayed Siberian bitch marks and covers all
over the place, as did my spayed Dalmatian bitch.
The Borzoi doesn't, but she is *extremely* submissive."

Sally Hennessey

"Oops, hit "send" too fast.  Of course bitches in
season are advertising, so that type of behavior
might be typical of Murphy.  And some folks think
that spaying actually increases dominant/aggressive
behavior in bitches that were dominant/aggressive
beforehand, so perhaps marking behavior also
increases in those bitches."

Sally Hennessey

From: "The Puppy Wizard"
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:17:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Tara and Sally, kindred spirits in dog killing

PATHETIC, eh Soup?

"@d o g t v dot com" <""m i c h e ae l \

Sally Hennessey

I had a Dalmatian like that.  Better ban Dals, huh?
Sally Hennessey

===========

YOU MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD Dalmatian...

"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.  I volunteered
as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
unwanted animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
to that problem," Mustang Sally.

Nope.  No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.

I'm starting to see some similarities here.

Sally Hennessey

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:23:46 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 9 2001 5:23 am
Subject: Re: shock collars

Sally Hennessey <greyho...@ncweb.com> wrote in message
news:b8m1dtsv6vuiblo63h8ekqiforibadrff2@4ax.com...

Aside from being incredibly offensive and self-righteous,
this post shows and absence of knowledge in the differences
in dogs' temperaments, or perhaps a lack of ability to perceive
same.  The fact that you, Alison, have never met a dog to whom
corrections and discomfort, even pain, were unimportant does
not mean that such dogs do not exist.

What it means is that you don't know as much about dogs
as you think you do, and you surely don't know a damn
thing about Harlan or anyone else's dog here.

I had a Dalmatian that would instigate fights with one
of her housemates; that dog had no fear or anything,
and pain incurred during a fight meant nothing to her.

I know that that dog is not unique, and I'm sure many
people here can tell similar stories.  The fact that you,
Alison, continue to say things to people such as what
you said to Theresa about causing her dog to suffer
(at least I guess that's what you meant by "you cause
your dog suffers" - - must be the King's English you
guys talk about over there) means that you are an
ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person who is not worth
further notice.
        Sally Hennessey

From: sighthounds etc. <greypigho...@ncweb.com>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:34:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Another Rebellion Stage?
On Wed, 29 May 2002 09:03:13 -0500,
Gwen Watson <g...@ig.utexas.edu> wrote:

It's true that circumstances do change, and people
can't do what they could before.  Definitely it would
be better for someone to exercise the dog than no
one, and I didn't mean to suggest that if the owner
can't do it, then no one should.  I meant that one
should not get a dog requiring lots of exercise and
mental stimulation if one cannot meet those needs.

IOW, Leah shouldn't have gotten a BC with the
understanding that her husband would take care
of the exercise and training needs.

However, Leah said that it was actually her husband
who wanted a BC, and he promised to exercise and
train her.  I guess it depends on one's experience;

IME, I'm the one doing the training, so next time my
DH wants a Dalmatian and promises to train it, I won't
believe him.

Sally Hennessey

"My spayed Siberian bitch marks and covers all
over the place, as did my spayed Dalmatian bitch.
The Borzoi doesn't, but she is *extremely* submissive."

Sally Hennessey

"Oops, hit "send" too fast.  Of course bitches in
season are advertising, so that type of behavior
might be typical of Murphy.  And some folks think
that spaying actually increases dominant/aggressive
behavior in bitches that were dominant/aggressive
beforehand, so perhaps marking behavior also
increases in those bitches."

Sally Hennessey

I didn't mean to suggest that we don't love our
poop-eaters; of course, we do.  If we were on
that show (The Secret Shame...), we would be
seen frantically dodging leaping Whippets trying
to plant kisses as close as possible to our mouths.

And I will admit that the night Robin barfed up poop,
he spent the night in his crate, not in bed with us.

Just couldn't chance a recurrence.

Sally Hennessey

Sighthounds etc." <greypigho...@ncweb.com> wrote in message
news:2oo30vco39kba31kfhfjv691ghm6c78giq@4ax.com...

Dalmatian that would position himself behind
the Greyhounds and catch...Being a Dal, he
was sometimes a little harder to love to begin
with.

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

From: sionnach (rhyfe...@email.msn.com)
Subject: Re: Correct use of prong collar
Date: 2001-05-05 13:03:14 PST

 Um, may I suggest a re-wording that might make
 it  clearer- given that "scruff shake" is too easily
 misinterpreted as "pick the puppy up by the scruff
 of the neck and shake the puppy in the air"?

 I think I'd phrase it something like "if the puppy is very
 persistant, it  can be appropriate to take hold of the
 loose skin at the back of the neck and give a slight
 shake to the *skin*".

 Janet's not talking about actually shaking
 the puppy, which I think we ALL agree is
 abusive."

You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"

"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A Dog
 I Do Not Believe There Is A Single Circumstance
 Ever, Where Slapping A Dog Is Anything But
 Destructive," "I don't see why anyone would want
 to choke or beat a dog, or how any trainer could
 possibly get a good working dog by making them
 unhapper, fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying
 frosty dahl.

amy lying frosty dahl continues:

"On the other extreme, the really ard dogs
 we have trained require much more frequent
 and heavy application of pressure (PAIN j.h.)
 to get the job done,

This is continued resistance to your increasing
authority, and the job is not done until it is overcome

Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper wield
the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,  less tractable
dogs may require you to progress to striking them
more sharply

Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and
the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist!
Eventually, the dog will give in

but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their
efforts to escaping the ear pinch

You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell
instead of your thumb even get a studded collar
and pinch the ear against that

Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so
urgent that resisting your will fades in importance.

CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever Ready
Right Hand,  As it catches on, try using the stick
and no ear pinch.

When the dog is digging out to beat the stick
and seems totally reliable without any ear pinch,
you are finished

If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly under the chin,
say "No! Hold!"

(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps because
the ear is getting tender, or the dog has decided
it isn't worth it)" lying frosty dahl.

"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
 professora gingold.

  terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
 "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
 something you twisted out of context, because you
 are full of bizarro manure."

lying frosty dahl sez she doesn't twist:

"None of my posts, prior to or subsequent to
Jerry Howe's attacks, encourage anyone to
twist ears, beat dogs, confront, intimidate,
frighten, or any of the crap he constantly
attributes to me," lying frosty dahl.

BWEEEEAHAHAHHAAA!!!

       "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
       Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
       With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
       discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.

Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies
HURT all their lives like HOWE HOWER dog
lovers PREFER to HURT THEIR DOGS?

"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.

We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...

Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should
knee the dog in the chest, step on its toes, throw
him down by his ears and climb all over it like a
raped ape growling into his throat and bite IT on
his ears, or leash pop it on a pronged spiked pinch
choke collar or pop him in the snout with the heel
of your palm.

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

         > Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

         > > When you compare using sound and
         > > praise to solve a problem with using
         > > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
         > > how can you criticize the use of sound?

         > There's nothing more to be said, then.
         > You've made up your mind.

         > But you've impressed me by mentioning
         > that you're a professor with 30 years of
         > experience.

         > So, can you cite some examples of
         > people recommending "shock collars,
         > hanging, and punishment"?
         > --
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

         >> I do know that hitting, hurting your dog
         >> will often make the dog either aggressive
         >> or a fear biter, neither of which we want
         >> to do.
         >
         > And neither does anyone else, Jerome.
         > No matter what Jerry Howe states.
         >
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

         > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
         > doubt, please provide a quote (an
         > original quote, not from one of Jerry
         > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
         > shows a regular poster promoting or
         > using an abusive form of training.
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

         > So, can you cite some examples of
         > people recommending "shock collars,
         > hanging, and punishment"?
         > --
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

THAT'S sumpthin to be PR-HOWED abHOWET, eh matty?

Try researching it on this site
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a684035.html

I, too, am worried about long term use of reglan.  I am currently givin
my dog half the recommended dosage and she is doing well on it.  This wa
her liver and kidneys only have half the medication to remove from he
body.

I am into holistic medicine for myself and for my animals.  I recommen
that you read "The Nature of Animal Heaing" by  Martin Goldstein, DVM.
Out dog had an aggressive form of breast cancer and we kept her alive fo
2 1/2 years using his recommendations.  Her cancer never returned. Sh
eventually just slipped away from kidney failure, certainly preferable t
the suffering brought on by cancer.

Two of the most important things that he stresses are:
(1) NO more shots (vaccines)
(2) Feed your animals REAL FOOD: cooked meat,fish, vegetables and eggs.
Add some cooked rice for bulk (no carbs if they have cancer).

Good luck.  

doglover22

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