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Aggression - Another EXXXPERT (Brian Kilcommons) JERRYIZED <{) ; ~ )  >

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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory@HushMail.Com - 24 Nov 2005 23:33 GMT
HOWEDY People,

Here's a other EXXXPERT dog trainer gettin JERRYIZED:

> Large Dog Aggression Is Not to Be Taken Lightly
> Get expert answers your questions about canine behavior.
> By Brian Kilcommons

> Q: My Harlequin Great Dane is fine on the leash until we
> approach other dogs. The hair on his back stands up and
> he aggressively lunges forward at other dogs. He also is
> afraid of children. Is there a way to train him to stop
> displaying such aggression?

> A: OK, my flags are up.

Keep it in your toga, Brian. You've done well
thus far trying to rehabilitate yourself from
jerking and choking dogs as you've ordinarly
done in the past.

> This size dog has the physical ability to
> take you where you do not want to go.

Not if you learn HOWE to pupperly handle and
train the dog, Brian. A dog's SIZE got NUTHIN
to do with the ease or difficulty fo trainin him.

You EXXXPERTS FEAR aggressive giant breed dogs.

> To begin with, I assume that he is neutered

Surgical sexual mutilation CAUSES fear aggression.

>  or will be promptly.

THAT'S INSANE and IRRELEVENT to the aggression problem.

> This is not optional.

That's sheer idiocy.

> Your Dane

A dog is a dog you freakin simpleton.

> does not have to like other dogs

Right. And THAT'S convienient seein as you got
NO METHOD to train a dog to LIKE what he FEARS.

> but he cannot decide to attack them.

ALL AGGRESSION IS FEAR. ALL FEAR IS CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.

>  This is where your foundation training becomes critical.

NO. THAT'S THE CAUSE of the dog's FEAR, Brian.

> Because of his size and the problem,

The dog's SIZE got NUTHIN to do with the PROBLEM
it's got to do with YOUR FEAR of dogs which is
HOWE COME you jerk choke crate bribe intimidate
surgically mutilate and murder them.

>  I strongly suggest you get hands on help from
>  a local qualified professional.

Like yourself, Brian?

>  This is not a "do-it-yourself" project.

That's horseshit, Brian.

ALL AGGRESSION is FEAR and ALL FEAR is CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING or your FOUNDATION OBEDIENCE, to be
EXXXACT. THAT MEANS ALL AGGRESSION and ALL
temperament and behavior problems CAN BE CURED
NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by doin EXXXACTLY PRECISELY
OPPOSITE of HOWE you build your FHOWENDATION OBEDIENCE,
Brian.

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH,
That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And
Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At The
Root Of The Scientific Management Of Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >

> Also, please consider using a head halter on the dog,

Restricting the dog in a head halter to force CON-TROLL
will INCREASE FEAR AGGRESSION, Brian.

> as this should give you better control.

CON-TROLL is HOWE COME the dog is AFRAID, Brian.
We can CURE this dog's FEAR BEHAVIOR simply by
PRAISING HIM and RELEASING ALL CONTACT on his body.

> Use of food reward when another dog shows up will create

INCREASED AGGRESSION, Brian. Dogs are SCAVENGERS who
STEAL scraps of food and run to hide to eat them with
their back to the wall in a heightened state of alert.

Offering a FEARFUL dog FOOD BRIBES makes them MORE
FEARFUL and AGGRESSIVE. Offering ANY dog FOOD BRIBES
teaches them GREED and USURPS the handler's AUTHORITY.
Withholding FOOD BRIBES makes dogs MISTRUSTFUL and
AGGRESSIVE:

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVERY LEARNING THEORY
model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse,
Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966)."

> a positive connection versus aggression

Oh? You mean LIKE THIS:

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

> The goal here is to create a positive (treat) when
>  another dog is in the area½dog, treat, good stuff.

THAT'S SHEER IDIOCY:

"Postitive emotions arising in connection with the perfection
of a skill, irrespective of its pragmatic significance at a
given moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW, emotions, not
outside rewards, are what reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

> But again, basic control is a must.

NO Brian, THAT'S THE CAUSE of the dog's FEAR AGGRESSION.

> As for his fear of children,

That's IRRELEVENT. IT'S ALL THE SAME SAME.

>  if he was not exposed to children as a puppy
>  he may have no idea what a child is.

THAT'S SHEER IDIOCY, Brian. Dogs FEAR children on
accHOWENT of their CON-TROLLER INTIMIDATES them
when small children are present to PROTECT the kids.

> This situation can usually be helped

That so?

>  but how much progress can be made can't be said.

On accHOWENT of you're a IMBECILE, Brian:

"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS were
moved to a delayed contingency the behavoir and learning
immediately deteriorated.

Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement
model" proposed by Skinner (1963) are no more well
established in research than the various dynamic therapists.
Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of programmed
systems for learning; 2) reinforcement; 3) cognitive dissonance;
and 4) motivation, MOST SURELY DEMOLISH the claims of operant
programers."

> I refer you to our book "Childproofing Your Dog" by Kilcommons
> and Wilson for detailed suggestions for this upsetting problem.

BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

THAT "UPSETTING PROBLEM" IS CAUSED BY YOUR METHODs, Brian:

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in deviant
behavior of children can be achieved through brief,
simple educative routines with their mothers which
modify the mother's social behaviors shaping the
child (Whaler, 1966).

Some clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need
for child THERAPY through changing the clinical
emphasis from clinical to parental HANDLING of the
child (Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases SHOWE
a remarkably shortened period for therapy. Quite
severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been treated
in own to five months by simply REPLACING the parents
temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

> You are doing the right thing by seeking help.

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!

From: IHateToSayItButITOLDYOUSO
Date: 23 Nov 2005 10:48:00 -0800
Subject: Re: Please help....problem with other dogs.

HOWEDY Liz,

Liz wrote:
> hi...liz from germany here.

I'm Jerry Howe, The Amazing Puppy Wizard. I live in Orlando FL, USA.

>   i have two 3.5 year old mixes

A dog is a dog.

> who are normally very sociable and friendly to people and other dogs.

As it should be.

>  in germany, dogs are welcome just about everywhere,

Yeah. We can't take dogs hardly  anywhere here in Central Florida.
What's worse, we can't leave them in the car either on accHOWENT
of it gets too hot too quick.

> plus there are any number of parks and walks among the rhein
> where i can take my furries.

We've got a couple of dog parks and dogs are welcome
on leash at most pubic parks.and a couple of sidewalk
restaurants.

> our favorite public dog park usually has many other 'friends' and my
> dach/golden mix sonny has, until now, played nicely with every kind
> and every age of dog.  these days, however, he's become very snippy
> with puppies.

That's curiHOWES.

>  i don't want to become a dog park pariah..

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> please help....

MOST of the DOG LOVERS you're askin here abHOWETS
have opposite sex aggression amongst their own HOWEs
dogs.

You AIN'T gonna be gettin no doGdameneD advice from
HOWER Gang Of Miserable Lying Dog Abusing Punk
Thug Cowards And Active Acute Long Term Chronic
Incurable Mental Cases who choke shock bribe crate
intimidate surgically mutilate and MURDER innocent
defenseless dumb critters <{) ; ~ )  >

> liz

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )  >

HOWEDY Rainbow,

rainbow wrote:
> Hi,
> I adopted a 5 year old chihuahua/ fox terrier(named HARPO)

A dog is a dog.

> about 12 months ago from the Doggie Rescue in Homebush,Sydney.

The past is history. It's irrelevent.

> I know that HARPO has gone through at least 2 families.
> HARPO is a small dog he weighs 6 kg's. I love HARPO so
> much but he has many problems, read on:

All temperament and behavior problems are caused by
mishanding. That means we can CURE ALL tempeament and
behavior problems NEARLY INSTANTLY by simply doing
EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of how the EXXXPERTS
tell us to handle and train dogs.

> HARPO loves people

Good.

> but he hates dogs,

ALL aggression is FEAR. ALL FEAR IS CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

Any behavior that's repeatable predictable or consistent
is EZ to change cue or extinguish NEARLY INSTANTLY using
ONLY PRAISE and brief variably alternating non physical
distraction INSTANTLY followed by prolonged intermittent
non physical praise and praise in advance.

Repeat four times in four different venues and the
HABIT is SCIENTIFICALLY CONDITIONED or EXTINGUISHED
as you prefer NEARLY INSTANTLY.

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH Oxford That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific
Management Of Doggies.

> he attacks dogs if they come near him

He won't if you praise him and don't restrain him.

LeeCharlesKelley Wrote:

>From what I've read of Jerry's method it incorporates

a completely new model of learning, which is based (in
simplest terms) on the idea that all behavior is the
result of finding a way to relieve emotional tension.

This is true not just for dogs but all animals.

You don't believe in the validity of this
particular model of learning?  You don't
think it makes sense?

Fine, I guess.

But it makes total sense to me.

And it made sense to Pavlov, too,
though not many people know this:

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior."

> and if a dog should walk past me while i am
> walking HARPO he can become very aggressive,

Because he's AFRAID. You've got to PRAISE HIM
and RELEASE ANY CONTACT on his collar or harness.

                ALL Critters Only Respond In
              PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
                 INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
      To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                  Which We Create For Them.

> so much so that i have been bitten by HARPO quite badly.

Valerie had the same problem with her dog who'd spent two
years in a no kill shelter gettin beat up by other dogs.
marybeth tried to make everyone believe Val's post was a
FORGERY by me because we've got some very nasty dangerous
people posting here who'll DO AND SAY ANYTHING to make
your dog act like theirs. They WANT YOU TO HAVE PROBLEMS
with your dog so THEY DON'T LOOK OUT OF PLACE when they
HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER their own dogs like marybeth
and dian aka lush who just replied to your post do:

From: "Valerie M. Holmes" <Holme...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 02:07:23 GMT

Subject: Aggressive Dal from shelter

I recently adopted a female, spayed 3 1/2 yr old
dalmatian from a no-kill shelter.  She spent 2
years in the shelter and naturally she has some
socialization issues to overcome.

My problem is I am not quite sure HOW to tackle these issues. . .

1.  She is aggresive toward **ALL** other dogs, even
dogs that have shown that they are willing to be submissive.
Upon sight of a dog, she lunges and snarls.

2.  She is usually kind and affectionate toward her owner
(me), but recently began turning sour and for no apparent
reason snarls toward me!  This has completely destroyed
the trust we were building over the past month.

3.  She deals with visitors, but is very anxious around
people she doesn't know.  At first she would scream if
a stranger petted her with 2 hands.  I just don't trust
her around anyone yet.

4.  She lunged at my sisters 2 year old the same way she
lunged toward other dogs, aggressively.

I really really like this dog, when she is calm and able
to relax.  I want to keep her, but I don't really know
what the best way to establish the necessary trust.

Any ideas out there?

Val writes Monday, 6/3/02:

Well, for what it's worth, I am praising without
physical contact and she does seem to listen
better than when I would praise with it.  I agree
that it is a distraction.

Anyway, no more aggressive behaviors from
her since I started the Witts End.

MaryBeth" <marbe...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:3cfcdcfb$2_8@news.teranews.com...

> "MaryBeth" <marbe...@NOSPAMcomcast.net>
> wrote in message
> > Didja also see tt he has 'morphed' into
> > Valerie M. Holmes ?????
> Note: I am not saying there isn't a VALID Valerie
> M. Holmes, but this one lives in howdy's home.
> MB <G>

From: Seeing Spots \(Val\) (Holme...@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: Re: Dear Wits End
Date: 2002-06-04 18:19:07 PST

HEY!!!

There is a Valid Valerie with a REAL Dalmatian
who is a real sweet dog with a few issues that I
am working to resolve after adopting her from a
shelter she spent 2 years in.

All I want is to get some decent help for my dog.

There is some decent stuff in Jerry's manual.
My dog has ACTUALLY been responding to
her training.  The deal is you have to separate
your opinions and impressions from the guy
who is writing these posts and take from the
manual what you want.

Personally, I get a pretty good chuckle out
of the whole Jerry thing.  I have to say the
guy is pretty clever, you're letting him get
under your skin.

It makes for a very amusing game I think.
I'm sure he would agree, or he wouldn't
be playing everyday.

He also wouldn't be playing if he didn't believe
that his method of training weren't valid.

Perhaps I'll learn from my mistakes, but so far,
using the Wits' End, I have gotten my dalmatian
to listen to me, to look to me for direction, to wait
for me to say when.

I have changed her from an aggressive dog
to one who is willing to please her owner,
willing to listen, willing to assume her role
in the pack.

The real Valerie M. Holmes speaking

P.s. Jerry, don't get any ideas about morphing
into me, ok?

Took Nevyn 23 days to train 2 female PBX's
not to fight. dr. ian dunbar won't even take a case
like that, and The Wizard does it from sittin right
here, stark ravin nekkid:

Nevyn writes:

Jerry I cannot even begin to tell you the success Ive
had with your training manual! My two mutts have gone
from out-of-control psychos to obedient well behaved
companions within a matter of weeks! AND My friends
have seen the success and have asked me to work on
their dogs!

I was working with a 5 month old Ridgeback female
today and she was being an angel after like an hour
of working with her!

It is AMAZING!!

I pity those fools who take their dogs to classes
where the "Trainers"abuse their dogs! (do they have
a degree? A masters? a Phd? by the way? NO they are
average joes off the street who think they know how
to train dogs!)

Once again, Jerry, you are a genius!

NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents
dogs, Dusty and Snoopy, and my friends pup, Jazz.

=====

"Leprechaun" <Leprech...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:m01Hc.20882$uK.16329@twister.tampabay.rr.com...

> Jerry believes he's a dog trainer.

Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too.
I took a rescued three year old beagle that
had been kept outside all of its life that didn't
even recognize or respond to its name to Jerry's
home (That ugly cinder block shack??? get real)
and in just over one hour of working with the dog,
he was coming on command (not as quickly as he does
now, but still...) and walking with us on a loose lead.

His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called"
command and pack exercise WORK!

> and in all likelihood he's never even been near a dog.

Well, he's been near mine, and done wonders for him.

You don't have to like him.  You don't have
 to agree with his methods, but as far as I
am concerned, I've never seen any other
training approach that was as fast and easy.

<<<< Rest of original post deleted >>>>

Ron Flanagan
Orlando, Florida

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Subject: Re: Lab/Rot 11 Months (TEMPER PROBLEMS)
Date: 2004-05-21 19:22:05 PST

"Zack Pellers" <ZackPell...@GUESSWHERE.cc>
wrote in message

dlin...@towson.edu (Derek) wrote in news:
697700b8.0405202039.5c737...@posting.google.com:

Your dog needs to be retrained. Contact Mr. Jerry Howe.
Http://www.DoggyDoRight.com

You can start by downloading the free training
manual available on the site above. I used it on
my 4 year old Fila Brasileiro.

When I first brought him home from rescue, he
was similar to the way you decribed your dog.
After using Mr. Howe's training method, the dog
was cured within 72 hours.

-Jack

Thank you

  >From: BNTDO...@aol.com
  >To: jho...@bellsouth.net
  >Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
  >Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always
  >Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
  >GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

  >Dear Jerry,

  >It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that
  >maligning you and your training manual but tell them from me
  >that it does work.

  >Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
  >putting him down are impressed with him.

  >I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over
  >there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him
  >for growling at me.

  >I told her to tell him what a good boy he is instead. Lo and
  >behold he stopped growling and I could do his nails. All 4
  >feet.

  >My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method
  >and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten
  >his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more
  >pleased.

  >He even tried to kiss a child the other day. Major break
  >through. This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat
  >the kids through the fence. I can now take him in the car with
  >me again without him trying to chase cars through the
  >windshield.

  >So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training
  >is Do No Harm.

  >The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first
  >rule.

  >Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was
  >diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my
  >side where he belongs.

  >Thank you so much.

  >Kay

HOWEDY Group,

Here some SUCCESS STORIES ive had using
JERRY'S MANUAL

1) My dogz, two bitches - Vicious, barking, aggressive,
pulled on leash, wanted to kill any dogs they saw, fought
between each other. TWO WEEKS using Jerry's manual,
they were calm, friends, my companions.

2) ADDED A BEAGLE PUPPY (male) to my "PACK", the
girls had -NO PROBLEMS- with him from the moment I
dropped him by their noses.

3) My FRIENDS dogs  2 MALES barking and jumping
at the fence all night 3 DAYS TRAINING WITH JERRY'S
MANUAL they were CALMED AND HAVEN'T BARKED ONCE!

Added a NEW MALE DOG (2 yrs old) AND
WELCOMED HIM WITH NO WUCKAS !

4) POODLE that ATE food from the KITCHEN BENCH -
lock him in a box? NO! USE JERRYS MANUAL! 4 DAYS
AND HES NEVER DONE IT SINCE!

5) ABUSED DOGS AT THE SHELTER I WORK AT -
HAD TO BE FED WITH A BUCKET ON  A STICK -
ONE WEEK ON JERRYS MANUAL, THE SUPERVISOR
TOLD ME TO PUT THEM IN THE PUBLIC KENNELS
FOR SALE !

Quite amazing to - I thought they were just dull coloured
dogs, but after I had removed the fear and anxiety their
hairs coloured up amazingly.

6) STAFFY FEMALE who would NOT DROP HER
BALL! She carried it around all day and night - 3
DAYS on jerrys MANUAL and she now DROPS
it when u ASK her to!

BWHWHAHAHAHAAHA !!!!

Nevyn

============

Never give out your password or credit card number in an
instant message conversation.

Nevyn says:
hello Jerry.

Jerry says:
HOWEDY Nevyn

Nevyn says:
How are you?

Jerry says:
sup?

Nevyn says:
Oh nothing

Nevyn says:

My dogs are alot better now!

Jerry says:
fine

Jerry says:
tell me

Nevyn says:
I can walk them on or off the leash and they don't give a #@%
about other dogs

Jerry says:
naah

Nevyn says:
I can let them inside and they wont eat the cats

Jerry says:
naah

Nevyn says:
Yup

Jerry says:
what did you do, buy a shock collar?

Nevyn says:
No

Nevyn says:
Praised them

Jerry says:
ahh!

Jerry says:
you think they're 100% better

Nevyn says:
'cept they still bark at the neighbour but only coz he swears
at them and pours water on them

Nevyn says:
nahh they still have stinky breath!

Nevyn says:
muahaha

Jerry says:
ok

Jerry says:
I'll go for that

Jerry says:
it'll take a couple more days to break the neighbor thing if
you're consistent

Jerry says:
then he won't swear and throw water at them

Nevyn says:
yeah but he's only out on the weekends

Jerry says:
but they'll still have stinky breath

Nevyn says:
muahahaha

Jerry says:
you gonna write the group and tell them they're suckin hind
teat?

Nevyn says:
eh

Nevyn says:
nah

Nevyn says:
cant

Nevyn says:
my news server isn't workin

Nevyn says:
how about u just screenshot or copy this chat and post it

Jerry says:
why not.

Nevyn says:
sorry been tryin all day to get on the news server

Jerry says:
you got anything you'd like to tell the dog
lovers who would prefer to see you choke and
shock and lock your dogs in a box?

Jerry says:
I guess you don't want to tell them nuthin that they don't
already know, huh?

Nevyn says:
hah

Nevyn says:
tell them they're f.ckers who need to die

Nevyn says:
dogs aren't for abusing they are for loving they love so much

Jerry says:
that's HOWE COME they got me now

Jerry says:
howe much training time did it take for the two of 'em?

Nevyn says:
pfftt

Nevyn says:
it didn't even seem like training

Nevyn says:
its been 24 days since I got your manual

Jerry says:
pfffttt!!!!

Jerry says:
hhahahahaha

Jerry says:
have you got that feeling that they're in tune
with EVERYTHING you're wanting them to do?

Jerry says:
I forgot what city you're in.

Jerry says:
maybe if you're near alphalpha sweeny you can swing
by and LAUGH your a.s off at him growling at his dogs???

Jerry says:
BWWWHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Nevyn says:
LOL

Nevyn says:
I'm in Perth, Australia!

Nevyn says:
and yes they do seem to be in tune

=====================

Nevyn says:
oh!! the other day my dogs went into submissive
position when a tiny little toy poodle came up
barking at them! !LOL

Jerry says:
EXCELLENT!

Nevyn says:
lol

Jerry says:
they knew they didn't need to fight, cause
everything was in your expert control.

Keep up the good work. j;~)
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> So when i walk him and i see another dog approaching
> i have to make sure that HARPO hasn't seen it and
> quickly pick him up, otherwise he will get so worked
> up in just seeing the other dog he will bark his head
> off and then bite me (i hold him in a way that his
> mouth can't reach me and bite me, a skill i have
> required!),

Any physical contact will reinforce his fear.

> and its not just dogs that make him so aggressive
> its cats and birds too, he tried to kill my pet
> budgie and in the process bit me and caused me to
> bleed, so he is very scary.

Good. At least his fear is consitent. That'll
make it EZ to EXXXTINGUISH NEARLY INSTANTLY.

> And HARPO also bit me another time when i was with
> a friend and walking him, HARPO saw a cat in someones
> front yard and i stood between HARPO and the cat because
> he was starting to lose it and he launched forward
> and bit me on the leg, it HURT so MUCH!!

Yeah. You'll have to pay very close attention to
the leash handling techniques I teach you in my
FREE MANUAL:

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> One time i was in the park with HARPO and about
> 100 meters away a man was also playing with his dog ,
> i tethered HARPO to swing frame so he wouldn't run
> off but i didn't do it tight enough, and HARPO ran
> off at top speed and attacked the man with his dog,
> he bit this man quite hard.

No problem. We'll fix that in WON DAY if you
study my manual and follow the INSTRUCTIONS
PRECISELY and ask me if you need any additonal
FREE heelp.

> I am worried that HARPO will attack more people
> if they have pets with them. It is so difficult
> to walk HARPO on the streets, i always have to
> watch out for other dogs and when he does see
> them he bites down so so hard, or if he sees
> another dog before i get the chance to see it,
> he will go absolutely crazy, trying to rip his
> collar off and squirming all over the floor so
> he can get out of his leash.

You'll have to learn not to restrain him
while you're following the INSTRUCTIONS
and you'll EXXXTINGUISH those behaviors
NEARLY INSTANTLY or I'll get the heel
outta this business.

> He also pulls on the leash incredibly hard ,

Only because you're restraining him.

> I can hear him straining to breathe because he
> pulls so so hard and recently about 5 months ago,
> he has started barking at different vehicles on
> the road, he attempts to jump out onto the road
> like he wants to attack it, he barks at fire
> engines, bicycles, motorbikes, buses and sometimes
> cars.

That's ALL because you're chokin him.

>  At first i thought it was the noise of the vehicle
> but he has barked at and attempted to jump at a bicycle
> and other less noisy vehicles but that's sort of rare,
> he definitely jumps and barks at Buses whenever he sees
> them and big trucks.

You've got to PRAISE HIM and tell him he's O.K.
and he'll BELIEVE YOU.

> I am scared that he might get hit by a car if he
> keeps this up!(Note:HARPO is always on the leash)
> Its just that he can jump onto the road at any
> time and I always have to look out for buses and
> trucks. Its not fun walking HARPO.

Relax. You'll have him well trained NEARLY INSTANTLY.

LIKE THIS:

       "Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
       news:

       I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
       dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
       I do not know what started the problem but he came
       aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
       snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
       and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
       ad I took him with me everywhere.

       At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
       Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
       clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
       it was not working on his aggression problem.

       I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
       trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
       They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
       and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
       suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
       working as he was becoming more aggressive.

       I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
       away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
       on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
       use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

       I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
       ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
       LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
       University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
       had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
       gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
       have the people stop until he could get in control using
       treats, and work on clicker training.

       At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
       the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
       would not come when I called him and would run away when
       I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
       neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
       hasn't trained her dog"

       I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
       were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
       were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
       said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
       say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
       responsible for him."

       *(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
       DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

       As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
       going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
       Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
       Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
       He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
       not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

       The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
       I had been working for 18 months!

       Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
       from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
       I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
       blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
       can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

       I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
       -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
       looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
       on by.

       When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
       me like "you must be out of your mind"

       The results can make a believer!!!

       Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
       Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
       in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

       He just seemed to not notice any one.

       When people talked to him or ask his name he would
       look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

       I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
       enjoy life out in public.

       If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
       was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
       Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
       toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

       My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
       dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
       out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

       I know most people would have given up on him a long time
       ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
       but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

       I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

       ================================

       From: Linda Daniel
       To: Jerry Howe
       Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
       Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

       Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
       to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
       save so many lives.  I know at times I was so frustrated I
       thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
       have but many people would have.  The world just does not
       know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
       solve problems.

       We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
       -just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
       you could meet us would be great.  I drive so I would be
       happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

       We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
       right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
       scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
       would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
       to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

       He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
       those on rollerblades!  I have always used a gentle leader
       in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
       grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

       Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
       stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose.  He never
       pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
       a hard time getting him going--at times  I think he could
       smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

       I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

       I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
       walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
       a problem with other people and dogs.

       I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
       to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
       around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
       treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
       coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
       and not move until we backed away-

       - can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
       until I get his attention with treats.

       They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
       but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
       him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
       sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
       to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
       heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

       ----------------------------------

  >Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
  >Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
  >Message-ID: uim43blqq1h...@corp.supernews.com

  >Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
  >methods with our dog.  We had the same problem as the
  >original poster has with Buzz.  One day working with the
  >family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
  >with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
  >daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
  >refusing to go with anyone but me.

  >I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
  >might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
  >and *judge the results for yourself*.

  >Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
  >comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
  >it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
  >walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
  >our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
  >forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
  >and don't wander. jh).

  >That's in about a week's time.

  >Her overall demeanor has changed.  When we brought
  > her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
  >(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
  >nippy).

  >She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
  >then she was in a shelter for months.  They (most of them)
  >wanted to give up and kill her  Now she's gained confidence
  >and trust with us.  Last night was another big breakthrough
  >(in my eyes).  She barked!  Big deal, she barked just once
  >when she heard the front door.  Great!

  >Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
  >the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources.  In my
  >opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and
  >leaves out the bad.  Works for me.

  >(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry
  >personally. I've emailed him and instant messaged him.  I have
  >not bought a "Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)
  >-----

  >M.

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because
of the people who are evil, but because of the people
who don't do anything about it."
   --Albert Einstein

> He also has separation anxiety,

NO PROBLEMO!:

"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety).  I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders.

I have not had a shredded sheet for over a week now.

It is nice to be able to leave the bed made and come
home to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that.  Keep up the good work!

Hoku

==================

----- Original Message -----
From: "nicole" <To: "Jerald D. Howe">
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:46 AM
Subject: Off to a good start!

Hi Jerald, Just wanted to tell you we read
your manual and have started working with
the dogs...

"Chloe" (the one we adopted--a. k. a.
"The Destroyer") has already shown
great improvement! (In Just 1 DAY!)

She responds even better than our other
(better-behaved) dog "Poe".

We tried out the surrogate toy technique, and
not a thing was touched when we got back!

We were both surprised because Chloe isn't
that interested in toys and was still very uptight
about us reaching for the door... anyway, it
seemed to work.

We both work all day today so we'll see
how that goes... Regardless, we will be
cool as cukes when we get home! ;)

I'm just so thankful we might have a chance
to get through to her! We're very excited about
her progress thus far...

Thank You!

Nicole, Michael, Poe and especially Chloe!

________________________________

>  We leave her in our fenced yard while we are at work.

NO PROBLEMO.

Dave Cohen <coh...@total.net writes:
Re: Barking Deterrants Needed...

Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have
spoken with him briefly once by email.

I have no stake or interest in the success of  his
business.  I simply want to thank him publicly for one
of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety.

I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed
animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but
I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it.
Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked!

I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic.

Thank you Jerry!

=====================

Date: 2001-11-14 09:13:21 PST
"Yves Dussault" <ydussa...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3b1110ff.3798143@news1.on.sympatico.ca...

> Hi!
> I have downloaded Wit's Ends Dog Training Method...
> In there there is that trick with a toy about "Separation
> anxiety surrogate toy technique."

> Anybody has tried that... I would like to give it a try with
> my GSP (German shorthair.....pointer)
> Comments? Yves Dussault

Yves,

I for one have tried it... in fact I use this all the time.
I just used it last evening while my husband and I went out
to see "The Mummy Returns" (a horrible turkey of a movie,
but at least the house wasn't chewed from end to end in the
meantime).

Yes, it really works.  :-)
So do the other distraction/praise techniques
described therein.

If you are interested in the manual, you will
probably want tobegin the exercises as well.

Regards,
Lisa

> so he can't be alone at any stage,

Forget about it. You'll CURE his separation anxiety
IN WON DAY if you FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS and don't
enterTRAIN the dog abusing cowars who'll tell you
otherWIZE.

> he must always be with someone, but i have accepted
> this problem and have made sure he isn't ever alone,
> so its not really a big problem like the other ones are.

Separation anxiety is CAUSED BY MISANDLING.

> HARPO also doesn't respond to his name when he is called,

NO PROBLEMO. Takes MINUTES to install a 100%
RELIABLE COME COMMAND as a conditional reflex:

ballzde...@gmail.com wrote:
> Well I am happy to reply that so far after 10
> minutes of work and the cans from mr Howes guide,

You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

> I have instilled the "come" command to Riley.

Good. You mean INSTALLED the come command as
a conditional reflex. Be SHORE to perform the
EXXXORCISES four times in each of four locations.

> He is an extremley smart dog, I have never had
> to go to the third or fourth try.

From: "BarbnBeau" <bdea...@cogeco.ca>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:52:30 -0500
Re: Puppy Wizard's Website

Hi Buzzsaw

Not a Thing to lose ...But a Lot To Gain!!

I can only speak from my experience.. I have a 8 month
old miniature poodle, and although I had done some basic
training with him we had a few barking issues  ..ugh

I am happy to tell you, I contacted Jerry at the email
addy I posted and he was so great! I wasn't following
the technique precisely but he helped me get back on track.

Beau is doing sooooo well it is really a thrill working
with him, and seeing the remarkable changes.

Now I can ask for "recall" (come) both on and off lead
and it is immediate!

the first time I ask.

Best of Luck to you,

Remember if you need help or explanation contact Jerry ..
he will be more than happy to help anyway he can.

Cheers
Barb

To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAI

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!  Saw a dog
today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out
of him.  Think it is hard for him but he never even
seemed to think about going off-reacting.  I would
love to write a testimonial but can not seem to find
the site--please send the address--

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase-
-Sunshine come goodboy.

OR LIKE THIS:

Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben

===================

> once he ran off down the street and i called and
> called him but he ignored me and kept running,
> luckily i caught up to him. HARPO never obeys
> when i call his name when we are outside, its
> like he is his own person/dog but when he is
> in the house he is such a different dog, he is
> quiet and calm and he listens when his name is
> called and comes over. But on the streets he
> behaves like a time-bomb maniac.

NO PROBLEMO!:

Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:06 AM

Hello.
I never posted here (or anywhere) before.
I never trained or owned a dog before this
year.

I downloaded the Wit's End, read it, corresponded
with Mr. Howe and trained my dog to come and to
stop barking in a weekend.

Our dog, Jake, had been treated with kindness the
whole time we had him, about 10 months, but his
earlier life is unknown.

I worked on the hot-cold exercise for about 30
minutes when he suddenly "got it". After that
he came to me every time with no hesitation.

I used the cans filled with pennies to teach him
not to bark. If he now starts to bark, I go to the
door or window, say "Good Boy, its' alright" and
he usually calms down right away.

A couple of times I had to get the cans
out again to reinforce the behavior.

We feel a strong bond with this animal
and he is very eager to accept our love.

So with all the vitriolic spewing going on,
I have to believe Mr. Howe is right.

His method worked for us.

I don't know if it would have been quite
as effective if we had tried another method first.

Florence

------------------------------­------

From: <>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -

Re: Am I expecting to much

Hi Jerry,

When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
for daughter's new pup, I told you that I had an older
Chessie. I rescued him at 9 years old and have had
him for 3 years.

It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him. Where I used to say "come" and
then say "good boy" when he obeyed, I have reversed
it with a "good boy" first.

It really does work.

He was very confused at first, wondering what he
had done to get the praise.

But it really gets the attention and distracts him from
whatever he may have going through his brain when
he hears it.

Dogs are funny, but people are too. Can't wait to get
the Doggy do Right, etc.

Thanks,
N
=========

> What i want for HARPO is for him to become less
> aggressive and more obedient , and i want him to
> not attack dogs and not to bark at cars!

You just follow the INSTRUCTIONS and your dog
will be like a newborn pup in a couple days.

> I can't take him to a dog training place

You AIN'T GONNA NEED THEM.

>  because there would be other dogs there and
> i KNOW that HARPO will go nuts and attack them
> or me, so its too risky.

Just study the manual:

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> Do you think my dog can be cured??

NEARLY INSTANTLY but you gotta STUDY and follow
the method PRECISELY and ask me if you need heelp.

> i really need help.

You just got LUCKY.

> Can my dog ever accept other dogs,

In a couple days, maybe less.

> can he ever be friends with them?

AS STATED.

>  I am tired of being afraid of walking him,
> i don't want to be always thinking if there
> is going to be another dog walking down this
> street and then harpo might bite me or the dog.

Most of the EXXXPERTS we got here got THE SAME PROBLEM.
That's why they call my 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students LIARS and their posts FORGERIES and LIE to folks
like yourself tellin them my methods DON'T WORK and it's
ALL LIES:

        "Speech is a mirror of the soul:
          as a man speaks, so is he."
  Publilius Syrus, First century B.C., Maxim 1073

             "We are what we do."

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

>Paul B wrote:
>> While the concept of shake cans is not new,
>> I haven't read any other advice that says to
>> praise immediately regardless of what the dog
>> does next (the common advice is to praise once
>> the dog is doing a desired behaviour or at least
>> stopped the unwanted behaviour), this is unique
>> to Jerry (and Marilyn) and from my own experiences
>> is an important part of the process.

And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.

His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

--Marshall

=================

"Marshall Dermer" <der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>
wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu...

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpand...@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST

Hello Marshall,

The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.

The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.

A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.

One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.

While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an important
part of the process.

> Thanks Paul! He does recommend praising
> a dog for barking, but he appears to recognize
> that this may not work and so distraction
> is recommended as a back up procedure:
> There really is NOTHING new about the advice above!

Nuthin EXXXCEPT HOWE IT'S DONE, professor "SCRUFF
SHAKE and SCREAM "NO!" into ITS face for five
seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes
contemplation" dermer of UofWI department of
ANAL-ytic behaviorism.

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-10 13:34:38 PST

In article <HRI27.3908$187.184...@news-rep.ab.videon.ca> "Jenn"
<d...@try.it> writes:

> Hi Lynn,

> I used to have a barking problem with my
> German Shepherd Dog a couple of years ago.
> I tried several things recommended to me by
> different trainers, and nothing was working.

> When I read that section of Jerry's Manual,
> I thought the same way you did.

> "What???? PRAISE her for barking?" It sounded
> counterproductive, but I had tried everything else
> I'd heard so I thought I'd try it too.

> Next time she went nuts at a person walking by
> outside, I told her, "Good job! Good girl! You are
> such a good protector!" And instead of continuing
> the barking, she came to me for a belly rub! She
> will still bark (she's a guard dog, that's her job),
> but after one bark, she knows she's done her job
> to warn me by my praise, and she stops.
> Jenn,

Could you be so kind as to post here the
section from Jerry's manual where he
writes that you should JUST praise the
dog when it barks?????????

 As I recall, I thought he first advocates
distracting the dog from barking, with
keys or the soft sound of pennies in a
can, before praising.

Perhaps you can tutor me regarding
Jerry's system.

Thanks in advance!

--Marshall Dermer

PS: I don't read Jerry's posts but I look
forward to your post.

"Marshall Dermer" <der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>
wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu...

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpand...@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST

Hello Marshall,

The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.

The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.

A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.

One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.

While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an important
part of the process.

  > Thanks Paul! He does recommend praising
  > a dog for barking, but he appears to recognize
  > that this may not work and so distraction
  > is recommended as a back up procedure:
  > There really is NOTHING new about the advice above!
  > Marshall

Nuthin EXXXCEPT HOWE IT'S DONE, professor SCRUFF SHAKE:

"Estel J. Hines" <ejhi...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@comcast.com...

Until i read the Jerry method of Bark
reduction, it went something like this
with our 11 month old puppy "Yoshi"

Yoshi: Bark, bark,

us: HUSH Youshi

Yoshi Bark, bark....................

us: Hush Youshi

Yoshi BARK, BARK, BARK, ................

it stopped when Yoshi got tired barking

We decided to try the Jerry method

Yoshi: BARK, BARK

US: GOOD Yoshi, Good Boy, who is it?

Yoshi Bark, Bark

US: It's ok, good boy Yoshi, We know them.

Yosh without fail, now stops after we say that.
I must say, it is so much more fun, when we
can praise him, to deal with things like this.

Thanks Jerry

ps: We are just starting to go thru the Jerry
Papers, and learn how to live with our son
"Yoshi", whom we love very much. --

Best Regards,
Estel J. Hines

-----------------

"Brandy Kurtz" <KraftyKur...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
news:2f66e35d.0407302331.1f18b8c6@posting.google.com...

Well I just printed out the Amazing Puppy
Wizard info, so I haven't actually started
to train yet.

Today a salesman knocked on the door,
and Pokey was going balisstic. I calmly
go to the window to see who it is, and
off-handly say Good Boy, It's a stranger,
Good Boy. Pokey shut right up, gave me
a quizical look, and came and sat beside
my feet!

OMG, I could not believe it!

I was totally floored, as this has been his
behavior since a pup. Just wanted to update,
and Pokey and I are hitting the sack...;)

Brandy

"Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote in message news:fS2Lc.114567$OB3.
4...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.

Tracy,

What worked for me, in just one storm,
was to praise the dog after each clap
of thunder, telling him he's a Good Dog!

This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.

 The next time it thundered, he did not even
 react at all--you could not tell it was the same
 dog as before.

There was more thunder just the other day,
and same thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no
cowering, whimpering, trying to hide at all,
it was that simple.

I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem
to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-
abusive way of handling dogs WORKS.

Wonderfully.

Praise.

It's that simple.

Juanita

-----------------------

"If I Knew It Would Be That Easy, I Would Have
Done This A Long Time Ago Saving Myself 5 Years
Of Dealing With A Bouncy, Over Excited Dog!" Jenn.

AND LIKE THIS:

"Anthony Testa" <testa52...@aol.com wrote in messag news:
c603fe9c.0203260607.77c28...@posting.google.com...

I moved to Jacksonville, Florida about a year ago
with my lovely wife linda. 3 times a week for 7
months I visited the Dog shelter and Humane Society
looking for a German Shepherd.

There were several times they had a dog there, but
I was looking for a bitch. The reason for this is,
all my life I have always had a female German shepherd.
Therefore, I wanted another one. Finally about 6 weeks
ago, I found her. "Angel" looked just like my previous
dog of 12 years. I called my wife, she came down and
fellin love with her immediately.

We filled out the paper work and left the Humane Society
with her. We drove directly to Pet Smart to buy all the
essentials. We bought the biggest crate available. Let
it be known I have never used a crate with any of my
previous dogs. The biggest difference is my other dogs
I had from puppy age. Angel just turned 2, 3 days before
adoption.

Angel appeared to be happy the trip home. Her ears were
down all the time and her tail was so far between her
legs that it looked like she had 3 ears. (humor) None
the less, we knew we had a dog that was insecure. The
first night we let Angel sleep in the living room.

However, we had to go to work the next day. We pet her,
kissed her and put her in the crate in the middle of the
living room. During the day, my sons came home to walk
her, give her a little loving and play with her. Then
put her back in the crate and go to work.

When we got home the first day, everything in the crate
was ripped to shreds. The neighbors approached us and
said that the dogs barked constantly for 3 hours then
barked continuously after my sons left again. We thought
it was because everything was new. We were wrong. The
dog did this every day for 4 days.

The 4th day was our first scheduled visit with the vet.
The vet told us he can see that the dog is suffering
from abuse and separation anxiety. So, the vet puts the
dog on clomicalm. (not sure of the spelling).

Well, for two days the dog walked around like Jerry
Garcia on a Friday night after a concert, stoned!
However, we were home with her the entire weekend.

We crated her for work and came home to a barking dog,
ripped bedding in the crate, upset neighbors and the
plastic bottom of the crate completely torn to bits.
It was obvious that crating was not a good thing. The
next day we decided to leave her out of the crate to
see what would happen. What a major mistake. We came
home to almost $1,000 in damage. Furniture, the blinds
were all chewed and torn down, etc.

The next day we put her in the crate again. This time
we came home to a nice 2' x 3' hole in our carpet in
the middle of the living room, right down to the cement.
I told my wife that we cannot afford to keep this dog.
We should go out and get a puppy. She was upset and said
there must be something we can do. I told her this. "I
will go on the internet and see what is available". I was
desperate and wanted to see if there was someone who could
help.

We read the information about the DDR and emailed Jerry.
Jerry was kind enough to give us his phone number to
discuss Angel in more detail.

First, at no cost he sent us his manual. We started doing
exactly what he said to do in the manual. Exactly as we
did was was written, the results were exactly as he said
it would be. Then we purchased the DDR.

This is an amazing god send to us. First of all, Jerry
sent it to us without paying. (thanks for that gesture)
This has such and AMAZING effect. This testimonial is
kind of winded so I will say this...... Jerry's product
literally saved this dogs life.

Angel can be left alone during the day. NO CRATE. The
dog shows absolutely no sign of anxiety at all. Jerry
told us the product works immediately and it did! She
does not bark at all during the day except when the
mailman drops mail into the slot on the door.

The manual for training works exactly as it says!

We told our vet about this and he said that there are
all kind of gimmicks. I told my vet that as a person
who holds a degree of higher education, there just are
some things they don't have in the text books and he
should be receptive to that. We are proof. Angel was
one day from going back to the humane society.

Listen to this... My wife wrote one of the so called
know it all of pets. His response to the exact letter
we initially wrote to Jerry..."Get rid of the dog,
bring her back" I'll save this person embarrassment
by not saying the name. However, you know who you are
and I have this to say to you. Go pump gas or bus tables
because you sir, do not belong working with animals!

Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
many people are so dang blind or ignorant.

You just keep plugging away at what you do, because
you my friend are a life saver!!!

Anytime you need someone to speak about the results of
your product, you have my number. We would gladly talk
to them.

Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...

Anthony & Linda Testa Jacksonville, Florida

=====================

> m...@bangnetcom.com (Mark Shaw) wrote in message
<news:lmWo8AeR1HVP092yn@panix.com>...

> > In article <c603fe9c.0203260607.77c28...@posting.google.com>,
> > testa52...@aol.com (Anthony Testa) wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
> > > group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
> > > many people are so dang blind or ignorant.

> > > You just keep plugging away at what  you do, because you
> > > my friend are a life saver!!!

> > Okay, who the heck ARE you, really?

> Who am I? My real name is posted. The story you
> have read is true.

> We were at witts end, found Jerry's web page by happenstance,
> wrote to him almost exactly what you read, he gave me his
> suggestions, told me what my results would be including a
> time line and, you know what? He was and still is, right
> on the money.

> I don't care if he's a warlock, a professor, disgruntled
> Entomologist, or a man with a niche that makes the sciences
> itchy, he saved the day AND a dog's life.

> We were given suggestions from Medication, to a Behavioral
> Specialist. I decided that instead of creating a Jerry
> Garcia or pay 125.00 dollars an hour for my dog to lay on a
> couch to be freudiated, I decided Jerry Howe's method seemed
> to be more humane and serene. It worked, end of story.

> A. Testa

=====================

> My student Anthony summed it all up:

"Alpha" <sween...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:bsf69.5447$g9.19553@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...

>>> Well there you go, I was willing to believe but then jerry
>>> it was another hallucination of yours, just like all those
>>> thank you letters you write, a lie, a fabrication, a w.nk...

> > From: TESTA52601 (testa52...@aol.com)
> > Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
> > Date: 2002-03-28 10:01:34 PST
> > Alpha,
> > It's uneducated, ball breakers like you that create dismay
> > throughout this society. Get a life. you took apart a
> > letter from someone who has shown nothing but love and
> > caring, including lots of money and twisted it to YOUR point.

> > Ever consider politics? I challenge you to show me your
> > credentials and results you come up with. The things I did
> > with the dog WAS against MY wishes. However, I listen
> > to pencil neck geeks that sit behind a monitor and get 30
> > different suggestions. This dog could not be happier if
> > she was gnawing on all three of your legs.

> > The bottom line to my letter was to tell people
> > "don't knock it until you try it"

> > P.S. Write me personally if you have any
> > credentials.......

Here's professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM research
at UofWI, marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
"NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation," dermer:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy,  "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

       The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; ~  }   >

P.S.  Contacting Dr. P:

Please note that due to the large number of
requests I receive, I can no longer give free,
personal advice on problems related to dog
training and behavior.

In order for me to give such advice we would
have to "talk" about the problem at length.

That is, I would need detailed information about
the dog, it's environment and routine, the problem,
and the situation in which the problem occurs.

Thus, this type of consultation takes time which
I cannot afford to give away for free.

If you wish such advice, please see the information
I have provided about my K9 Behavioral Consulting
practice. Another alternative to obtaining personal
advice is to participate in e-mail, chat room, &
newsgroup discussions.

P.P.S. BWEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

               YOU'RE FRAUDS, drs p. and dermer!

             Either DEFEND your LIES, ABUSE And
             Degrees or get the heel HOWETA THIS
                          BUSINESS.

        "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
                      and you will know each other.
         If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
               and what you do not know you will fear.

                    What one fears, one destroys."
                          Chief Dan George

                "(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
                 few regulars here who are either ill-
                 tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.),"
                                 --Marshall

       > From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
       > To: "The Puppy Wizard"
       > <ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, July
       > 23, 2004 2:53 PM Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard

       > Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

       > I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
       > and now must applaud your attempts to save
       > animals from painful training procedures.

       > You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
       > who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
       > alert the world to animal abuse.

       > We are lucky to have you, and more people should
       > come to their senses and support your valuable
       > work.

       > Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
       > charity to fund your important work?

       > Have you thought about holding a press conference
       > so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
       > and significant work?

       > In closing, my only suggestion is that you
       > try to keep your messages short for most
       > readers may refuse to read a long message
       > even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.

       > I wish you well in your endeavors.

       > --Marshall Dermer
       > --Marshall Dermer
       > Marshall Dermer/Associate Professor/
       > Behavior Analysis Specialty/Department
       > of Psychology/University of Wisconsin-
       > Milwaukee/Milwaukee,WI 53201

       > der...@uwm.edu http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
         --------------------------------------

            All truth passes through three stages.
                         First, it is ridiculed.
                Second, it is violently opposed.
          Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
                      -Arthur Schopenhauer

            "Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
                 even tho it's a hopeless task,
                      in this system of things.
                 As long as man is ruling man,
            there will be animals (and humans!)
                     abused and neglected. :-(
                       Your student," Juanita.

         "If you've got them by the balls their hearts
                        and minds will follow,"
                              John Wayne.

              The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~  )  >

                               GOT MILK?
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory@HushMail.Com - 24 Nov 2005 23:44 GMT
HOWEDY tara o. aka tee,

Tee wrote:
> "Dilbert Firestorm" <scanb_no_spam31@*no_spam*I-55*no_spam*.com> wrote in
> message news:dbssbv$hpk$1@news.datasync.com...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > parents think) of another dog (frankie) which is a mini
> > or toy doberman.

Oh? JUST LIKE YOUR OWN DOGS, eh tara o. aka tee?

> > also there were fights between the two who
> > gets to go on my moms lap.

JUST LIKE YOUR OWN DOGS, eh tara o. aka tee?

> > it apparently was pretty trying for Daisy and appeared to
> > be mad at my parents (cold shoulder treatment)

JUST LIKE YOUR OWN DOGS, eh tara o. aka tee?

> > I thought it was rather bizarre that how that unfolded....

INDEED. JUST LIKE YOUR OWN DOGS, eh tara o. aka tee?

> > is this more to do with Daisy having a lack of interaction
> > with other dogs or is that more to do the she was raised in
> > a cage?
>
> I'm not sure how being raised in a cage

YOU MEAN JUST LIKE YOUR OWN DEAD DOG Summer, eh tara o. aka tee?

>  (I assume you mean crate trained and not 24/7 in an
> animal cage without relief) factors into anything.

That's IRRELEVENT, tara o. aka tee.

> Dogs are like people

YOU MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD DOG Summer for THE SAME REASON.

REMEMBER tara o. aka tee?

> in that each one's preferences,

Your daughter is takin ANTI PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS
since first grade, REMEMBER tara o. aka tee? You've
got a VERY LONG POSTED CASE HISTORY of MENTAL ILLNESS
and HURTING INTIMDIDATING and MURDERING dogs and LYING
abHOWET it. REMEMBER tara o. aka tee?

>  patience and tolerance levels are different.

Well perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME your own DEAD DOG WENT INSANE?

> Its hard to say why Daisy took issue with him

NO IT AIN'T, tara o. aka tee. Your own DEAD DOG
Summer HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS, REMEMBER tara o.
aka tee? ALL AGGRESSION IS FEAR. ALL FEAR IS
CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.

Like that SAME SAME SAME SAME PROBLEM you're
havin RIGHT NHOWE with your NEW Boxer Rescue
dog Joe Joe whom you've been SHOCKING for the
past week to break his DOMINANCE PISSIN on your
other FEAR AGGRESSIVE dog Fancy.

REMEMBER tara o. aka tee? You'll have to RETURN
IT to the SHELTER if you can't break his DOMINANCE
PISSSIN. REMEMBER tara o. aka tee?

> because there could be any number of reasons.

ANIMALS ONLY ATTACK WHEN THEY'RE AFRAID, tara o. aka tee.

JUST LIKE PEOPLE. THAT'S HOWE COME you jerk and
choked and MURDERED your own DEAD DOG Summer and
BLAMED THE DOG as you're doin AGAIN with your
REPLACEMENT RESCUE dog Joe Joe. REMEMBER NHOWE?

> The most obvious is that he was in her home playing
> with her things and she's just not accustomed to
> sharing her space/things with another dog.

THAT'S INSANE, tara o. aka tee. Your own dogs
GOT THE SAME PROBLEM. REMEMBER?

> IME

Your EXXXPERIENCE is HURTING INTIMIDATING and MURDERIN
innocent DUMB ANIMALS and BLAMING THEM for beng DOMINANT.

>  most dogs aren't terribly kosher with having
>  a strange dog enter their home or space.

Well that's just NOT TRUE, tara o. aka tee.

YOUR dogs "AREN'T TERRIBLY KOSHER" WITH
HAVIN A STRANGE DOG IN THEIR HOWES OR
SHE WOULDN'T ATTACK THEM LIKE HOWE YOU
ENCOURAGED Fancy to DO to TRAIN your NEW
RESCUE dogs, REMEMBER tara o. aka tee?

>  Most get over it fairly quickly

Like Joe Joe? Like your own DEAD DOG Summer?

>  and the outcome can be anything from tolerance to total friendship.

OR DEATH, REMEMBER tara o. aka tee?

>  Some don't get over it

Oh? You mean on accHOWENT of YOU MURDER THEM.

Summer AIN'T the ONLY DEAD DOG you've MURDERED
FOR THE SAME SAME SAME SAME REASON, tara o. aka
tee. You've got a VERY LONG POSTED CASE HISTORY
of HURTING INTIMIDATING and MURDERING DEAD Boxer
RESCUE Dogs Of NC and LYING abHOWET IT.

REMEMBER tara o. aka tee?

> and their owners realize the dog just isn't
> accepting of other dogs in a certain space.

LIKE YOUR OWN FEAR AGGRESSIVE DOGS.

> It'll take more time and attempts to have Frankie
> in the home before you can get a better idea of
> what's going on IMO.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

You mean JUST LIKE YOUR OWN REPLACEMENT Boxer
Rescue Dog Of NC, Joe Joe, who GOT THE SAME
PROBLEM FOR THE SAME REASON, tara o. aka tee?

> --
> Tara

HOWEDY tara o. aka tee,

Tee wrote:

> > "Tee" wrote:
> >
> >> Just as an FYI I have enough how-to material

You have ENOUGH'HOWE TO' material from DOG ABUSERS who
CANNOT TRAIN their own SELECTIVELY BRED for generations
after generations of CHUMPion LINE BRED FIELD DOGS HAND
PICKED and TESTED PRYOR to training, to HUNT, withHOWET
HURTIN and INTIMIDATING them.

THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT.

> >> to make an informed decision

If your EXXXPERTS were EXXXPERT TRAINERS THEY
WOULDN'T NEED TO HURT their SELECTIVELY BRED
HAND PICKED and TESTED dogs to train them.

WOULD THEY.

> >> about attempting the use of an e-collar

Your dog ANXXXXIHOWESLY PISSES on his OPPOSITE
SEX HOWEsmate, PACK MEMBER, if you will, on
accHOWENT of IT'S UNHEARD OF for a MALE DOG
livin IN A HOWES with a female (IOW, that the
male is not in the HABIT of ATTACKING ALL DOGS
ON FIRST SIGHT pryor to knowin IT IS A BITCH
he's tangling with), as THAT would be a VIOLATION
of NATURAL LAW <{); ~ ) >

In over forty years of professionally handlin
trainin and specializing in temperament problems
in mostly giant breed workin dogs The Amazing
Puppy Wizard HAS NEVER SEEN or HEARD of a case
where a male dog ATTACKED his OPPOSITE SEX HOWES
mate or FAMILY PACK MEMBER.

> > and I plan to attempt more than just
> > correcting the marking problem with it.

Right. You're gonna "CORRECT" all the OTHER
behavior problems YOU CAN'T TRAIN <{); ~ ) >

> >  If I see an abnormal reaction to the e-collar

WHAT REACTION to GETTIN BURNED would be ABNORMAL?

The EFFECTS of SHOCKING a dog to TRAIN IT LASTS
FOR DAYS AFTER EVERY SHOCK TRAINING SESSION.

You can VERIFY THAT if you'd LIKE by checkin HOWET
Buck's CASE HISTORY with FRAUDreck RIGHT HERE. Seems
cindi, his ABUSER, took him to FRAUDreck to train him
and HE COULDN'T DO IT, REMEMBER NHOWE?

IN FACT, her dogs SHOOK for three days after "trainin."

PERHAPS THAT was on accHOWENT of FRAUDreck NEVER
COLLAR CONDITIONED the dog FIRST as tara o. aka
tee DISCOVER SHE MUST DO by READING IT IN The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's ARCHIVES.

CuriHOWES, AIN'T IT, HOWE you SUDDENLY got the
IDEA of COLLAR CONDITIONING your dog PRYOR to
BURNIN HIM, from your REVIEW of DISCUSSIONS
HERE... not that you'd READ The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's posts... HOWEver, NO WON EVER discussed
apupriate collar CONditioning till The Amazing
Puppy Wizard EXXXPOSED the SHOCK COLLAR SALES
SCAM these EXXXPETS swindle innocent guillibl
dog abusing mental cases like cindi and yourself.

Even HOWER DOG LOVERS didn't approve of puttin
the shock collar on Bucks BELLY to "teach him
to stand."

> > than I won't use it, period.

DOGS GO NUTS AFTER BEING SHOCKED, tara o. aka tee.

> >  Not to mention that in this case, there's a very good
> > reason for using it IF he reacts appropriately (e.g.
> > isn't freaked out by it, and it doesn't cause reactions
> > to Fancy):

Your OPPOSITE SEX DOG ATTACKED Fancy AGAIN after gettin burned.

> > the fact that it will alleviate Fancy's confusion
> > over who's being corrected.

Yeah... it'll make Joe Joe think that FANCY is PUSHIN THE BUTTON.

> >  Among the many concepts Lucy apparently
> > doesn't grasp is the necessity for clarity

The dog is AFRAID. You CAN'T HURT HIM to MAKE IT CLEAR
that he GOT NUTHIN TO FEAR. This entire discussion is

      < ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >

> when working with an issue that involves
> two dogs in the same household.

You mean OPPOSITE SEX dogs like culprit's
dogs who ATTACKED EACH OTHER AFTER GETTIN
BURNED and MURDERED HER SEVEN THOWESAND
DOLLAR HOWEskat <{): ~ ) >

You mean OPPOSITE SEX dogs like suja's
Khan attackin that RESCUE Malamute she
ADOPTED and took back to the P-HOWEND
after a trip to the EMERGENCY HOWEspital.

FOR BOTH DOGS. REMEMBER NHOWE?

Or do you mean like malinda and shelly's and
professora melanie's OPPOSITE SEX AGGRESSIVE
dogs.

> Yep and this is yet another reason why verbal
> praise when he's trying to mark Fancy could
> cause serious problems.

No, that's a other reason HOWE COME YOU MURDERED
YOUR OWN DEAD DOG Summer FOR THE SAME PROBLEM.

REMEMBER tara o. aka tee?

liea's dog Cubbe ATTACKED HER ONLY FRIEND
when she stepped into her SHOCK ZONE JUST
LIKE HOWE she TRIED to attack two small
children she'd been PLAYIN WITH when THEY
STEPPED INTO HER SHOCK ZONE <{); ~ ) >

>  What exactly is Fancy going to think if rather
> than issuing a Joe Joe NO *at the time he is leg-
> lifting* I instead begin praising him?

IT'LL CALM HER SO SHE DON'T FREAKIN ATTACK HIM AGAIN.

> I'm sure she'd love that,

INDEED. But you WON'T DO THAT on accHOWENT
of it'd make YOU FEEL P-HOWERLESS <{); ~ ) >

>  assuming she understood it but then she tends
>  to understand verbal praise and correction
> pretty clearly.

INDEED. THAT'S HOWE COME SHE ATTACKS HER
OPPOSITE SEX HOWEsmate <{); ~ ) >

FurtherMOORE, for ANY "trainer" to USE BOTH
PRAISE / REWARD with PUNISHMENT causes an
IRRECONCILABLE INCONSISTENCY which causes
FEAR and MISTRUST.

AND THAT'S HOWE COME YOUR DOGS ATTACK INNOCENT
CRITTERS AND THAT'S HOWE COME YOU MURDER THEM
or DUMP them back in the P-HOWEND with a RECORD
of DOG AGGRESSION JUST LIKE HOWE chocolate paula
the mental Mormon DONE.

OR they'll JUST MURDER THEM like HOWE staffymom
aka debbie s DONE to her own DEAD DOG buried
HOWET back of her shop <{); ~ ) >

Is THAT what you consider EXXXPERTEASE?

> The dogs got into another fight last night

Duh-Oh?

> this time at the food station.

You're makin your dogs < ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >

> I don't know who started it

The MOST FEARFUL ALWAYS STARTS IT, tara o. aka tee.
Fancy is your ALPHA BITCH who ALWAYS PUSHES new dogs
arHOWEND with YOUR PERMISSION <{); ~ ) >

>  because the table blocked my view.

No. Your MIND blocked your VIEW. You AIN'T GOT
TO SEE a BEHAVIOR to KNOW HOWE COME it's there
and HOWE to FIX IT, tara o. aka tee. THAT'S
HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESFUL FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students ALL OVER The WHOWEL WILD WORLD like
Lucy REPORT 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANT
SUCCESS by DOIN EVERY THING OPPOSITE of the
DOG LOVERS WHO CHOKE SHOCK BRIBE CRATE INTIMDIATE
SURGICALLY SEXUALLY MUTILATES and MURDERS DEAD
DOGS and CALLES IT RESCUE on accHOWET of THAT'S

      < ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >

> I was in the kitchen talking to Scott, not looking
> in the dogs' direction.  My shouting "Heyyyyyyyy!!!"
> while advancing around the table with Scott stomping
> on the floor as he jumped up caused them to break.

You told Joe Joe that YOU and SCOTT and FANCY
WOULD MURDER HIM if he didn't STOP. When YOU
and SCOTT AIN'T THERE, Joe Joe MIGHT JUST BE
SCARED ENOUGH of THAT happenin AGAIN that he
might just MURDER Fancy for you so he don't
got to LIVE IN FEAR of you and scott AND
Fancy MURDERIN HIM WON FINE DAY on accHOWENT
of SHE'S SCARED, but NOT AS SCARED as you've
LIKELY MADE HIM JUST LIKE HOWE you DONE IT
to your own DEAD DOG Summer.

REMEMBER tara o. aka tee?

>  It seems Joe Joe broke first

THAT'S on accHOWENT of THREE of you attacked him.

> but I can't be sure,

YOU AIN'T GOTTA SEE NATURAL LAW TO KNOW IT ALWAYS APPLIES.

>  he may have just been closest to the escape
> route as he bolted to his crate

Crating dogs INCREASES ANXXXIHOWESNESS (crate / barrier
frustration) and REINFORCES PHOBIAS *see Crystal Arcidy's
"Starry's Scary Night" Post <{); ~ ) >

> while Fancy paced in place.

What with a BACKUP like you and scott she's game for MOORE.

> This could be the start of that theory I had where
> Joe Joe is trying to eliminate Fancy completely.

IMAGINE? Hey? You SUPPOSE all your PUNISHMENT
has MADE THEM FEAR EACH OTHER?

>  Dominating the food/feeding

Food aggression is INSECURITY. The FOOD is only a PROP.
The PROBLEM is CONFIDENCE IN THE HANDLER, not FOOD <{); ~ ) >

>  may be an extension of urinating on her.

INDEED.

>  It may also be that Fancy is at her breaking point

LikeWIZE.

>  and either deciding

No. There's NO DECIDING, this is INSTINCT.

SURVIVAL INSTINCT.

NATURAL LAW, if you will <{); ~ ) >

> to take a stand or just snapping out of impatience.

DOGS ATTACK ONLY WHEN THEY'RE AFRAID.

> There was an airsnap from Joe Joe the first day he was
> here and it was while we were eating.  I chalked it up
> to nerves and I still believe that's what it is.

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHHAHHAHAAA!!!

>  There have been *no* snappy/snarky/bitchy or otherwise
> aggressive incidents, not even the occasional "back off"
> that I expect out of Fancy.

ON ACCHOWENT OF SHE'S THE MOOR AFRAID, at least till
you and your sniviling SP-HOWES and Fancy GANGED UP
ON HIM.

CAN'T YOU SEE THE PROGRESSION OF BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS
YOU'VE BEEN CAUSING JUST LIKE HOWE YOU DONE WITH
YOUR OWN DEAD DOG Summer?

This is < ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >

> However, there have now been two serious incidents
> in less than a week.

AS STATED. THIS IS < ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >

> I started using the e-collar to reinforce some known
> commands and introduce a "break" since Joe Joe doesn't
> have a good stay.

A "BREAK"? WHAZZZAT???

>  I had hoped to work on a good recall

Takes MINUTES to INSTALL a 100% RELIABLE
COME COMMAND using The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

> followed by a heel

Takes 15 minutes to train the heel command.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard will wager $100.00
HE can TRAIN ANY DOG to HEEL in FIVE MINUTES
withHOWET HURTING or BRIBING or otherWIZE
doin ANY THING like HOWE you EXXXPERTS who
WORK SO HARD trainin your dogs TO DEATH do...

>  as I know its a very common thing to teach with
> the e-collar and isn't flat-out correction.

THAT'S < ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >

> I have not used the e-collar for *any* correction
> at all, only on level 1 using the avoidance method

Is THAT the WON where you BURN the dog CONSTANTLY
till IT happens to DO what you're HOPIN and then
YOU REWARD IT by SHUTTIN OFF THE JUICE?

> for reinforcing sit & down.

Oh. You mean you use the AVOIDANCE method to BURN
THE DOG when IT "MAKES A MISTAKE" he LEARNED.

>  He responded pretty well and never vocalized,
> jerked or seemed confused.

Well, turn the juice up. Could be you're DESENSITIZING
him to the SHOCK collar and you'll NEED to get WON with
35 levels of medical grade static like stimulation?

> He did tire of it quickly,

Naaa?

> about 10 minutes and 15-20 reps after we started so
> we ended with a successful down/break and lots of
> praise and treats.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAA!!!

> I explain this so that no one thinks I've managed to
> create any negative associations with the e-collar and
> we've only had two training sessions, neither of which
> were on the same day as the fights

NOR WAS ANY OF THE OTHER ATTACKS CAUSED BY BURNING DOGS.
Like granville's DEAD Golden Retriever who ATTACKED a
small child in the head when IT stepped in front of
a FENCE JUST LIKE THE SHOCK FENCE IT HAD at her own HOWES.

> so I don't think it was stress from that.

Of curse not!

>  I've been going outside with the dogs and supervising
> half the time and the other half I've been letting them
> out individually so there's no opportunity for marking.

BWEEEEEEEEAAHHAHAHAA!!!

>  Maybe its this constant supervision and/or
> musical dog outings that is upsetting the balance.

The "CONSTANT SUPERVISION" will SHORELY make him PARANOID.

As far as "UPSETTING THE BALANCE", your ALPHA BITCH Fancy
is the ONLY WON UPSET abHOWET BALANCE on accHOWENT of she
always GOT AWAY with INTIMDIATING other dogs. Seems Joe
Joe is AFRAID ENOUGH TO FIGHT BACK IN SELF DEFENSE, an
ALMOST UNHEARD OF BEHAIVIOR for a PACK MEMBER, tara o.
aka tee <{); ~ ) >

>  Maybe its just escalating

IT HAS BEEN EVER SINCE YOU STARTED. JUST LIKE HOWE IT
DID WHEN YOU MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD DOG Summer <{); ~ ) >

REMEMBER?

> and what I thought was the big problem before was
> a precursor & symptom of a bigger problem to come.

Oh? You mean JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ.

>  Its sure as hell confusing.

INDEEDY. Try PRAISING THEM IN ADVANCE and THEY WON'T BE AFRAID.

And they WON'T ATTACK or PISS on
each other PRYOR to you ALL goin

< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >
< ( ~ ;(}>  INSANE.  <{); ~ ) >

> --
> Tara

AGAIN.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ) >

HOWEDY tara o. aka tee,

Tee wrote:

> > Other than that, everything else is fine,
>
> >  It's mainly the biting, we are willing to try anything!

INDEEDY.

THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "DECENT PEOPLE
DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS". When new readers post here they're
READY to HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER THEIR OWN DOGS JUST LIKE
HOWE you done to your own DEAD DOG Summer, tara o. aka tee.

REMEMBER?

> You can try a penny can shake (a handful of
> pennies in a tin can) to see if that helps.

You mean to PUNISH her BONDING behavior tara o. aka tee?

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

> Make sure that the things you are trying are
> things you are giving enough time to sink in.

IF AN EFFECTIVE METHOD WORKS, IT WORKS NEARLY INSTANTLY.

If a method DON'T WORK NEARLY INSTANTLY you're EITHER
DOIN IT WRONG or your METHOD IS DEAD WRONG... like HOWE
you done to your own DEAD DOG Summer. REMEMBER?

> IOW don't try something for one or two days
> and then change tactics.  That confuses the
> dog and doesn't teach her anything IMO.

IT TAUGHT YOUR DOG THE DROP DEAD COMMAND, remember
tara o. aka tee?

> I'd highly recommend a puppy obedience class for
> you and your pup.

That so? You mean like the kind you took your own
DEAD DOG Summer to, TO LEARN TO HURT and INTIMDIATE
and MURDER her, tara o. aka tee?

> You have a giant amount of energy & intelligence
> packed into that little pup so now is the best
> time to take her in hand.

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

>  Learn what she responds to,

You mean, like choking shocking sprayin aversives
in ITS face and locking IT in a box like HOWE you
done your own DEAD DOG Summer, tara o. aka tee?

> what she doesn't,

You mean, like not being jerked and choked bribed
shocked and locked in a box, tara o. aka tee?

>  how she thinks, etc.

You think she'd think you'd be SHOCKED that you shocked?

You think she'd think you TEND TO AGREE with NON VIOLENT methods?

> As for the excitement urination

That's SUBMISSIVE urination, tara o. aka tee.
Doesn't WON of your own dogs do that?

>  some dogs stop after a while and some don't.

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!

You can CURE submissive urination IN WON DAY
if you stop jerking choking bribing crating
intimidating scolding and punishing your dogs.

> My Min. Dachshund did this until she was about 3 years old.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

BEAUTIFUL!!!

Thank you.

> My friend's Australian Shepherd has always done it

DUH? "Birds of a feather. When you lie with pigs
you'll awaken STINKIN like 'm," The Puppy Wizard's
DADDY <{); ~ ) >

>  and she's now 8, I believe.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

>  I don't know of any methods to successfully
>  cure this behavior

Oh? You mean, LIKE THIS?:

From: Eric
To: jhowe2@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in..

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago
regarding submissive peeing. Just wanted to let you
know he's doing great- he was "cured" in about 2 days
using your techniques!

He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!
Once I stopped thinking like a human and got inside his
head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter
of minutes. Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed
'em, and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside
their heads and teach them to teach themselves how to
be good dogs!

Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I learned
from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate their brain rather
than beating a.s or pinching, or any of that nonsense.

I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to someone
who beat MY a.s lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes
out there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.

A horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship". He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows
any more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it
(pun intended)... Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

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Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h67d@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry personally.
I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have not bought a
"Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: mick@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

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