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cheaper alternatives for Rimadyl and Glycoflex?

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Molly O Chamberlain - 29 Nov 2005 21:42 GMT
Hi,
I'm a poor college student at the University of Minnesota who loves her
dog very much. I'm looking for some alternative treatments for my dog -
which means I would really appreciate your help!!

Phydeaux is a sweet but clumsy mutt - best guess German short-hair
pointer and Great Dane. He's about a year and three months and a
baffling 85 lbs. Brown spotted like a cow, lanky awkward legs and the
purtiest green eyes you'd ever see.

But he's also got a bum knee, his right hind leg - injured somehow and
now it's swollen. I think it was injured a long time ago, then it was
fine for a long time, then suddenly has been getting worse. I don't
have a true diagnosis because I'm too poor right now even to get the
x-rays to find out exactly what's wrong. The vet said she thought it
was either that his patella is moving around where it shouldn't be or
some sort of ligament issue. And because of the injury, pretty bad
arthritis (which is why it suddenly got worse when it turned cold, I
think).

Her suggestion was surgery for either case - or (or until then)
anti-inflammatory pain-killers (Rimadyl) and glucosamine/chondroitin
supplement (Glycoflex II) for the arthritis. I want to do all I can for
my dog, but I also understand that I am extremely limited by my
situation and the cost of medical help for my Phydog.

I'm looking for cheaper alternatives for Rimadyl and Glycoflex.

I've heard that (buffered, non-enteric-coated) aspirin can be a safe
alternative for a puppy pain killer, and carries with it only about the
same risk as when people take it everyday (stomach ulcers, etc), if
taken with food and in the right dosage. I've heard 10-15 mg/lb/12hrs.

As far as finding a glucosamine supplement replacement, I'm wondering
if the (usually much cheaper) human dietary supplements to the same
effect are safe for dogs. In my small and uneducated research online,
it appears like they can be, keeping a couple of things in
consideration:
1. Correct dosage. (I forget the numbers now.)
2. Products designed for dogs often have ascorbic acid or manganese to
help aid in the uptake of glucosamine; I'm not sure if human brands do
or not. How can I supplement Phydrool's diet with this also? Do I need
to?
3. Since the FDA doesn't regulate dietary supplements, there are a lot
of crappy ones out there that do not contain the amount they say they
do or a high enough quality product. Got to be sure to find a good one
that'll do what it's supposed to.

I'm looking for other professional opinions before I return to the vet
because I felt like she wasn't offering me any options. There have to
be some. I, of course, care very much about my dog. He's important as a
pet, a friend, a family member and a counselor. I feel bad that I
cannot help him to the extent that my vet thinks I should, but I feel
truly trapped right now when it comes to money.

If you can comment on subbing the brandname doggy meds with other
people meds, offer brands of glucosamine/chondroitin supplements, tell
me where I could get really cheap vet care, other suggestions, anything
-- I would really appreciate it.

Thank you,
Molly O Chamberlain
5cats - 29 Nov 2005 21:58 GMT
> If you can comment on subbing the brandname doggy meds with other
> people meds, offer brands of glucosamine/chondroitin supplements, tell
> me where I could get really cheap vet care, other suggestions, anything

Nutramax labs is supposed to have very high quality Glucosamine/chondroitin
brands, Cosequin for pets and CosaminDS for people. The human formula is
almost exactly 4x the strength of the cat formula, so I open one CosaminDS
capsule and sprinkle it on the food for 4 cats. 2 of the cats probably
don't need it yet, but they are "senior" in years. Doing it this way is
about the same or less cost as treating 1 cat with the feline version.

You should be able to get the nutritional info and doses for human and
canine versions off the nutramax web site.


Sharon - 29 Nov 2005 21:59 GMT
> I'm looking for other professional opinions before I return to the vet
> because I felt like she wasn't offering me any options.

She did. The closest thing to a cure would be surgery. She then offered the
alternative for the time being to give the dog 'some' measure of comfort
which would be prescription meds. Try to think of this in human terms. If
you blew your knee out, tore a ligament or had an injury that aggravated
with time required surgery to fix, there wouldn't really be other
alternatives. The pain and discomfort will only get worse, not better and
the longer you wait the more complications may arise in recovery and
arthritis could set in at an earlier age. As for searching out lower cost
vets, be up front with your vet about your financial situation. Ask if you
can sign financing agreement promising to pay 'X' dollars a month. Use a
credit card, ask about veterinary financing like Care Credit. A veterinary
college may be able to work something out with you as they use their clinic
cases for teaching, but some actually charge big $ anyway.

Other than that, others here may have some creative ideas regarding anti
inflammatories. I look forward to reading them. Best of luck.

-Sharon
toucanldy@aol.com - 30 Nov 2005 23:54 GMT
I usually use human supplements for my animals, but the best product I
have found is made by "Ark Naturals," and is called
Joint Rescue Super Strength Chewables. Here is a site with some info. I
bought mine at Whole Foods Market.
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/Joint_Rescue_Super_Strength_Chewables_p/121013.htm

Regards
 
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