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diddy - 15 Dec 2005 17:12 GMT
I have a pregnant bitch  with two weeks to go. She is eating 6 small meals
a day, but just doesn't find room, and vomits her meals up.  She covets her
food, and stand s guard, but isn't eating it. I need some suggestion for a
more nutrient dense food so that she meets nutritional requirements on a
minimal volume.
Rocky - 15 Dec 2005 17:34 GMT
diddy <diddy@nospam.diddy.net> said in rec.pets.dogs.health:

> I need some suggestion for a
> more nutrient dense food so that she meets nutritional
> requirements on a minimal volume.

Evo, from Naturapet, is about the most nutrient-dense kibble
I've come across.  Very low carb, though, and I have no idea as
to what pregnant bitches need.

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Suja - 15 Dec 2005 18:03 GMT
"Rocky" <2dogs@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message:

> Evo, from Naturapet, is about the most nutrient-dense kibble
> I've come across.  Very low carb, though, and I have no idea as
> to what pregnant bitches need.

Barring that, Innova, by the same manufacturer, is also pretty calorie
dense.  You may want to look into performance formulas from various
manufacturers, as those are more nutritionally dense in general.

Suja
diddy - 15 Dec 2005 17:59 GMT
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> "Rocky" <2dogs@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message:
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> Suja

Thank you both
Melinda Shore - 15 Dec 2005 18:47 GMT
>Barring that, Innova, by the same manufacturer, is also pretty calorie
>dense.  

With a pregnant bitch you probably want more than just
calories - you need to pay attention to overall nutritional
content.

>You may want to look into performance formulas from various
>manufacturers, as those are more nutritionally dense in general.

Right.  Plus there's always Satin Balls - magical stuff.
There are some good recipes here:
http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/health/diet4.htm
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diddy - 15 Dec 2005 18:54 GMT
in thread news:dnsdoi$cr5$1@panix2.panix.com: shore@panix.com (Melinda
Shore) whittled the following words:

>>Barring that, Innova, by the same manufacturer, is also pretty calorie
>>dense.  
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> There are some good recipes here:
> http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/health/diet4.htm
to come to think of it, I have satin balls in the freezer!
Nicole H - 15 Dec 2005 19:27 GMT
How about something like VitaCal or NutriCal?
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/NavResults.cfm?N=2001+113388
>I have a pregnant bitch  with two weeks to go. She is eating 6 small meals
> a day, but just doesn't find room, and vomits her meals up.  She covets
> her
> food, and stand s guard, but isn't eating it. I need some suggestion for a
> more nutrient dense food so that she meets nutritional requirements on a
> minimal volume.
Steve Crane - 16 Dec 2005 19:28 GMT
> I have a pregnant bitch  with two weeks to go. She is eating 6 small meals
> a day, but just doesn't find room, and vomits her meals up.  She covets her
> food, and stand s guard, but isn't eating it. I need some suggestion for a
> more nutrient dense food so that she meets nutritional requirements on a
> minimal volume.

Hi Diddy,
    I hope everything else is going well for you. You didn't indicate
what food you are using now, so it's hard to determine what might be
more calorically dense than what you are feeding. A pregnant bitch can
and should be fed a puppy food with elevated levels of DHA. Perhaps
canned foods might be less likely to cause the vomiting problems?? I
have no idea if this would work at all, but iit might be worth a shot.
To give you some options:

Science Diet Lamb Meal & Rice puppy dry  4,028 kcals/kg with added DHA
Pro Plan Original chicken & rice puppy formula  4,237 kcals/kg  (no
added DHA tho)
Pro Plan Lamb Meal & Rice for puppies 4,203 kcals/kg  (no added DHA
tho)
Eukanuba Puppy Lamb & rice 4,128 kcals/kg with added DHA
Science Diet Canine Active Adult - 4,619 kcals/kg - (not a puppy
formula and no added DHA) more for comparison than anything else.

Science Diet canned puppy 1,219 kcals/kg
Pro Plan Puppy Chicken & rice canned 1,244 kcals/kg
diddy - 16 Dec 2005 21:15 GMT
in thread news:1134761294.775579.277590@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
"Steve Crane" <eodemolay@cox.net> whittled the following words:

>> I have a pregnant bitch  with two weeks to go. She is eating 6 small
>> meals a day, but just doesn't find room, and vomits her meals up.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> more calorically dense than what you are feeding. A pregnant bitch can
> and should be fed a puppy food with elevated levels of DHA.

Shes currently being fed Hills Science Diet Natures Best  Puppy with
additional DHA Supplementation.
Perhaps
> canned foods might be less likely to cause the vomiting problems?? I
> have no idea if this would work at all, but iit might be worth a shot.
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> Science Diet canned puppy 1,219 kcals/kg
> Pro Plan Puppy Chicken & rice canned 1,244 kcals/kg
Steve Crane - 17 Dec 2005 22:20 GMT
Diddy,
   Nature's Best Puppy is 3,818 me/kcals - a bit lower than the ones I
gave you. The problem I think is the dog vomiting the food up, not so
much the caloric density of the food itself. I'd suggest a trip to the
vet and make sure there isn't some reason for this. S/he may even
suggest using a/d to add some significant calories, or perhaps canned
i/d to hold down the vomiting problems. she really shouldn't be
vomiting and I think a trip to the vet might be the best suggestion.
diddy - 17 Dec 2005 22:46 GMT
in thread news:1134858010.202582.191070@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
"Steve Crane" <eodemolay@cox.net> whittled the following words:

> Diddy,
>     Nature's Best Puppy is 3,818 me/kcals - a bit lower than the ones I
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> i/d to hold down the vomiting problems. she really shouldn't be
> vomiting and I think a trip to the vet might be the best suggestion.

She hoards her food from the other dogs, and sits and guards it. She's
getting 6 SMALL meals a day.  But she lets them build up, then eats it all
at once, and because she's pregnant, there is no room in there, and it just
comes up. I wanted some sort of concentrate tyo make sure if she was only
getting small amounts, she was still getting what she needed.
She's got one week and three days to go.
shelly - 18 Dec 2005 13:58 GMT
>She's
>getting 6 SMALL meals a day.  But she lets them build up,

how about hand feeding her?  that way, you know she's actually eating
the six smaller meals when she's supposed to.  aside from the vomiting
problem, letting her hoard them and eat them when she wants totally
defeats the purpose of breaking up the meals.

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