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broken beagle fibula

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highflyr - 18 Dec 2005 00:46 GMT
hello everyone

my 4 month old beagle today broke his fibula... it's a clean break but
it's up slightly too high for a cast/splint but it's a possibility.

the vet also mentioned that surgery is the best option but the costs
involved are pretty high.  we're talking in the thousands apparently.
a splint/cast might work but if it fails, surgery is the only option.

has anyone else had any experience with broken bones and such with
their dogs?  any advice or tips?

thanks for reading,
ed - edmonton, AB
Andrija - 18 Dec 2005 10:03 GMT
> my 4 month old beagle today broke his fibula... it's a clean break but
> it's up slightly too high for a cast/splint but it's a possibility.

Are you certain that the fibula only is broken, and not  tibia?  If only
fibula is broken (the smaller bone) the dog definitely doesn't need
operation.

> has anyone else had any experience with broken bones and such with
> their dogs?  any advice or tips?

Veterinary orthopedic surgery is very developed,and bones heal quite nicely,
especially in such young dogs.Can you send radiograph somehow for us to see?
highflyr - 18 Dec 2005 15:23 GMT
i will get my hands on the xray today and figure a way to post it on
the web.  thanks for reading, these boards are a great resource.

ed
Bonnie - 18 Dec 2005 15:44 GMT
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> i will get my hands on the xray today and figure a way to post it on
> the web.  thanks for reading, these boards are a great resource.
>
> ed
highflyr - 18 Dec 2005 17:34 GMT
http://members.shaw.ca/edward.lee/tibia.jpg

here is the xray
highflyr - 18 Dec 2005 17:38 GMT
http://members.shaw.ca/edward.lee/tibia.jpg

here's the xray.  to immobilize both joints above and below the break,
a thomas shroeder cast is required and apparently they're very
difficult to build and the cost savings as compared to surgery won't be
"that" significant.

i was quoted anywhere between 1200-2000 for the surgery to have a pin
put in, no quote for the thomas shroeder cast.

if there are any opinions out there after seeing the xray at the link
above, please feel free to email or post.

thanks so much for all your input.
ed
Deborah, DVM - 18 Dec 2005 18:18 GMT
While surgery is often the best option for long-bone fractures, I'd have no
problem whatsoever casting that leg.  A 4 month old puppy will heal in no
time.  I'm currently treating one of my technician's dogs who had a much
worse fracture of her tibia (spiral fracture, couple of butterfly pieces).
She couldn't afford referral, we don't do plates which is the only thing
that would've worked for her dog's fracture.  We're now 10 wks into it, have
been through several casts, and the healing is slow, but it is healing.
She's also a 2-3 yr old dog.

Anyway, from what I can see on your xrays, you've got a non-displaced pretty
much mid-shaft oblique fracture of the tibia -- I'd think it'd be very
amenable to casting.  A Thomas-Schroeder splint is really only necessary if
you are trying to immobilize the femur.  I'd just use a regular fiberglass
cast.  It's more likely to slip on a rear leg (hard to cast it high enough
up the thigh), but it's easy enough to redo as needed.  The puppy will be
growing anyway, so you'd probably need cast changes every 2 wks anyway.

Regarding cost, can't tell you much.  We'd only charge about $400-600 where
I am for an IM pin, and only about $150 for a cast, so we're obviously a lot
less expensive than where you are!!!!!

Good luck

Deborah, DVM

> http://members.shaw.ca/edward.lee/tibia.jpg
>
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> thanks so much for all your input.
> ed
highflyr - 18 Dec 2005 19:52 GMT
thanks deborah, i will go to my vet and let her know your comments.
ed
highflyr - 18 Dec 2005 19:57 GMT
deborah,
another thing, would you mind telling me where you're located?  I'm up
in canada.  thanks
buglady - 18 Dec 2005 23:32 GMT
She's in FL - it'd be a long ride!

buglady
take out the dog before replying

> deborah,
> another thing, would you mind telling me where you're located?  I'm up
> in canada.  thanks
Dale Atkin - 19 Dec 2005 03:22 GMT
Hey with those kinds of price differences, he could practically fly down
there :). Trip to Florida this time of year would be nice (I'm in Calgary, 3
hours south, and its darned cold here right now)

Dale

> She's in FL - it'd be a long ride!
>
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>> another thing, would you mind telling me where you're located?  I'm up
>> in canada.  thanks
Andrija - 19 Dec 2005 16:10 GMT
> http://members.shaw.ca/edward.lee/tibia.jpg

Judging by the x-rays, I think external coaptation is an option here,
especially in a dog so young.The fragments are almost anatomicaly correct,
which is a good thing. I don't understand why would anyone put thomas splint
on such a fracture, when good quality cast  ( made of fiberglass) can do the
job(I completely agree with Deborah).They are lightweight, waterproof, and
even look good. The cast have to be applied from finger to above the knee in
order to imobilize the tibia. Animals don't usually like thomas splint, and
they try to get rid of  it as soon as possible ( who wouldn't ? ).
showdogbark@yahoo.com - 21 Dec 2005 07:08 GMT
best wishes to your dog until it gets better. bones can take a while.
 
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