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Pet Forum / Miscellaneous / Animal Health / January 2006Diamond Dog Food
I hope no one has to go through the loss of a loved one due to Diamond. If so, my deepest sympathies. Please forward the link below to anyone you know who may be interested or has had a negative encounter with the food! http://www.thepetlawyer.com/Dogfoodpage.html >I hope no one has to go through the loss of a loved one due to Diamond. > If so, my deepest sympathies. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.thepetlawyer.com/Dogfoodpage.html Not that I don't think people should sue for recompense when a company obviously screws up this badly, but how 'bout we don't feed the ambulance chasers? > >I hope no one has to go through the loss of a loved one due to Diamond. > > If so, my deepest sympathies. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > obviously screws up this badly, but how 'bout we don't feed the ambulance > chasers? In my state dogs are considered property and the only thing a court will give you is the cost of the dog. The company has already offered to do that and medical bills. In my state a lawyer isn't going to get you any more than they are being offered so I think it would just be a waste of money. I hate to say this at such a bad time but this is yet another good reason not to buy discount dog food. > I hate to say this at such a bad time but this is yet another good > reason not to buy discount dog food. .........It's not discount dog food. They were testing for aflatoxin. There's a problem with the corn crop in the SE and as soon as they knew that they instituted more tests. In late December Japan ordered a corn shipment from the US destroyed due to presence of aflatoxin. Do you think that corn was not inspected either? This is a horrible human error. We still don't know how the contaminated corn got into the plant instead of being rejected, but this scenario could happen to any company. It still may if all the other companies don't start taking extra precautions. FWIW I don't feed kibble at all. buglady take out the dog before replying Buglady Thanks for confirming that Diamond isn't a cheap food. It's only sold here in feed stores next to Innova, Canidae, etc. I used to work for Paramount Farms and we were always screening for aflatoxin. Our products were all nuts (pistachios, almonds, walnuts, etc). Unfortunately, even with all the testing, a few bins got buy. What do you feed if not kibble? I have large dogs ( 75lbs and 120lbs or so).. can't imagine making dinner for them. My kids would probably get jealous LOL Nicole >> I hate to say this at such a bad time but this is yet another good >> reason not to buy discount dog food. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > buglady > take out the dog before replying >Buglady >Thanks for confirming that Diamond isn't a cheap food. It's only sold here >in feed stores next to Innova, Canidae, etc. It's hardly comparable to Innova and Canidae, however. Those are super-premium foods; Diamond is not. The better varieties of Diamond are okay foods, not great. Mustang Sally how sneaky to put it between the premium food. >>Buglady >>Thanks for confirming that Diamond isn't a cheap food. It's only sold [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Mustang Sally >how sneaky to put it between the premium food. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> super-premium foods; Diamond is not. The better varieties of Diamond >> are okay foods, not great. How sneaky to top-post. I didn't say it was sneaky to put it with premium foods. I said Diamond isn't comparable in quality to foods such as Innova and Canidae. You don't need to believe me; anyone who can read and interpret labels will see that. Mustang Sally Oh the horrors of top posting. Mustang, I wrote that it was sneaky. I realize you were too busy to see that since you were trying to be the law of the newsgroup. Time to chill out. > I used to work for Paramount Farms and we were always screening for > aflatoxin. Our products were all nuts (pistachios, almonds, walnuts, etc). > Unfortunately, even with all the testing, a few bins got buy. ............Yes, it can happen. What the public doesn't realize is that there are allowed limits and just because their food isn't Diamond doesn't mean it's aflatoxin free. > What do you feed if not kibble? I have large dogs ( 75lbs and 120lbs or > so).. can't imagine making dinner for them. ......I don't have to make it, I just defrost it. I feed a raw diet. buglady take out the dog before replying > .........It's not discount dog food. I would agree it's not the $9.99 for 50 pounds type food, but calling it a "premium" might be a stretch. I suspect their biggest business isn't in the Diamond brand anyway, but rather the COSTCO Kirkland Signature and Nutra Nuggets products. They have a number of brands under different labels. Premium Edge, Country Value, Professional, Chicken Soup, Nutra Gold (overseas only), and the short lived, ill fated, Bayer Healthy Life food. They were testing for aflatoxin. > There's a problem with the corn crop in the SE and as soon as they knew that > they instituted more tests. In late December Japan ordered a corn shipment [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > but this scenario could happen to any company. It still may if all the > other companies don't start taking extra precautions. Very true! Most have known of the problem since late summer and I suspect most have imposed much more stringent testing. There seems to have been a string of these this past year. Venezuela and Malaysia both had contaminated foods and then the year before it was PetCurean's Go! Natural made by Merrick that apparently had some kind of problem nobody ever figured out. There seems to > have been a string of these this past year. Venezuela and Malaysia both > had contaminated foods and then the year before it was PetCurean's Go! > Natural made by Merrick that apparently had some kind of problem nobody > ever figured out. ......with as dry as it is in TX, I wouldn't be surprised if they also had an ongoing problem. buglady take out the dog before replying Buglady, At Paramont, all the orchards are irrigated and testing is frequently done for aflatoxin. So I guess it could be a problem anywhere. > > I hate to say this at such a bad time but this is yet another good > > reason not to buy discount dog food. > > .........It's not discount dog food. They make grocery store brands and costco brand. To me thats discount. > They were testing for aflatoxin. > There's a problem with the corn crop in the SE and as soon as they knew that [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > buglady > take out the dog before replying > > > I hate to say this at such a bad time but this is yet another good > > > reason not to buy discount dog food. > > > > .........It's not discount dog food. > > They make grocery store brands and costco brand. To me thats discount. I would agree - "store label" brands, regardless of which one, are generally the least expensive foods on the market. Ol Roy, Kirkland Signature (COSTCO), Safeway Select, Kroger, etc. are products developed to meet a store price point and put out to bid. Lowest bidder gets the job. The following is from the Oregon vet board - not a confirmation by any means, but interesting The following message was sent to the Veterinary Board office. I am forwarding to you as information only without endorsement or comment. From: Anderson, Michelle Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:16 AM To: OVMEB Info Subject: Diamond pet food I know Diamond pet foods has denied that Kirkland food (sold at Costco) is affected by their recall, but my cat has been affected, he went into liver failure the beginning of November, and almost died. He's only 4 years old, and has been on Kirkland for the last 3 years. My vet had 5 other families with the same symptoms in their cats, 1 cat died, 4 of those families used Kirkland Cat Food from Costco in Oregon. 2 other vets locally (Forest Grove, Oregon) also said they had cats that had the same symptoms and used Kirkland Cat Food, 1 cat died, 3 other vets in the area said they had sick cats and dogs with the same symptoms that are calling the pet owners and asking what food they use, my guess would be Kirkland. I talked to Diamond pet food vets 2 different times, and Diamond has denied that it's possible for Oregon food to be affected, but it's not a coincidence that all these pets in Oregon are becoming sick with the same symptoms and the only link is Kirkland cat/dog food. I have all my vet records and tests if you would like to see them. I'm trying to bring this to everyone's attention before more animals needlessly suffer and die. My cat was hooked up to a IV for 4 days at the vets the first time, then he was sent home for me to force feed him and continue the IV. He wasn't getting better so he went back 2 weeks later (Nov 23) and was admitted again for 6 days, they had to surgically implant a feeding tube directly into his stomache so he could be fed, and was hooked up to a iv as well. He was given a VERY slim chance to live, I honestly believe the only reason he survived was because I have the most AMAZING vet, with a very dedicated staff. He went home and I had to feed him through his tube for 3 more weeks. He's finally doing better, but there's no way to know the long term affects this poison had on him. He's still VERY thin, and suffered tremendously, because Diamond is hiding this information. Michelle Anderson Providence Health plans Metro B team The following is from the Oregon vet board - not a confirmation by > any means, but interesting ........And how is this different from the people who say Hills causes dry flaky skin? ........The writer of this letter assumes Diamond is lying. I still don't know that that is true. You know very well that association is not necessarily causation. At least you hold to that view WRT flaky dry skin and Hills products. buglady take out the dog before replying Apparently it's a fine point I guess - but dry flaky skin is a bit of a way from being dead, don't ya think? > Apparently it's a fine point I guess - but dry flaky skin is a bit of a > way from being dead, don't ya think? .......that's not the point and you know it. You have cows when someone disses Hills through anecdotal evidence. The letter was posted on a vet site, but was from an owner, who claimed to *know* of other cases she claims were due to the food. And I think it's kind of chickenshit for them to post it and have no comment. Hysteria is catching. If it turns out Diamond is *hiding* evidence, they're done as a company. buglady take out the dog before replying > > Apparently it's a fine point I guess - but dry flaky skin is a bit of a > > way from being dead, don't ya think? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > it and have no comment. Hysteria is catching. If it turns out Diamond is > *hiding* evidence, they're done as a company. Diamond is already done. It doesn't matter what they do. No one is going to buy dog food that has killed dogs no matter how many checks they have in place now. Its just not human nature. jw > Diamond is already done. It doesn't matter what they do. No one is > going to buy dog food that has killed dogs no matter how many checks > they have in place now. Its just not human nature. .........Don't think so. They'll only go down if they're trying to subvert the truth. This isn't the first time this has happened. Did you quit eating cereal, watermelon, hamburgers when they made people sick? buglady take out the dog before replying > > Diamond is already done. It doesn't matter what they do. No one is > > going to buy dog food that has killed dogs no matter how many checks [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the truth. This isn't the first time this has happened. Did you quit > eating cereal, watermelon, hamburgers when they made people sick? Its just like the food poisoning case here locally with Golden Coral. The health dept. shut the place down and had them clean everything with clorox. That place was probably 10 times cleaner after the food poisoning case. It wasn't even Golden Corals fault it was food they got from a distributor. They went out of business. No one was killed but it was just enough bad press to get 'em. Bad press is hard to get by. > buglady > take out the dog before replying > Diamond is already done. It doesn't matter what they do. No one is > going to buy dog food that has killed dogs no matter how many checks > they have in place now. Its just not human nature. I doubt it will affect them much at all. Remember that 90% of pet owners don't read the newspaper, or watch the TV news at night - except for the sports section I suppose. Most consumers will never figure out that Diamond had a problem. Secondly the Diamond brand is a small part of their business. The COSTCO Kirkland Signature, Nutra Nuggets, Premium Edge, Chicken soup, Nutra Gold and Professional brands will hardly notice anything and that's where a huge hunk of thier business is. If the actual Diamond brand were much damaged - and I doubt that will happen either, they have the majority of their business under other brands that will remain pretty much unaffected. They could simply change out the Diamond brand for Premium edge or Professional or something else with the same retailers and the consumers would buy the the same food under another label and never know the difference. > They could simply > change out the Diamond brand for Premium edge or Professional or > something else with the same retailers and the consumers would buy the > the same food under another label and never know the difference. Thats a real good point! I can see them doing that! jw |
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