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ThePuppyFaerie@AniMail.Net - 25 Jan 2006 14:10 GMT Stress Induced Blindness - Effects Of Emotions On Glaucoma
HOWEDY People,
Blindness can be caused by STRESS and CHOKING *(cite cate's hyperactive fear aggressive dog, Orson)
>From opthamologic society: men who wear tight fitting neckties tend to have MOORE glaucoma.
You can't be jerking and choking and scoldin your dogs no MOORE
You're KILLIN and making your dogs go blind, to boot:
The most common precipitating events include illness, emotional stress, trauma, intense concentration, and pharmacologic pupillary dilation.[Sugar, 1941 #116; Lowe, 1961 #8957] The role of emotional stress in inducing acute angle-closure should not be underestimated.[Inman, 1929 #190; Egan, 1955 #189; Cross, 1960 #188]
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Death Producing Ulcers: "Emotional Influences On Health & Behavior" Dr. George Von Hilsheimer
Emotional Influences On Behavior
Illness is directly related to depression and lack of adjustment, particularly to a new environment (Parens, McConville & Kaplan, 1966).
A WIDE RANGE of PSYCHOSOMATIC or CORTICOVISCERAL DIS-EASES was surveyed by Wittkower (1965) to demonstrate the enormous importance of emotional factors in general health.
Interview findings of emotional material (recently experienced hopelessness) pryor to biological examinations correctly identified 11 out of 19 with cervical cancer, and 25 of 32 who were cancer free even though psychological tests failed to discriminate these groups (Schmale & Iker, 1966)
150 lung cancer patients showed significantly constricted expression of emotions. The had fewer childhood behavior problems, and lower neuroticism score than their cancer free controls. Heavy cigarette smokers who DO NOT INHALE are more apt to have LUNG CANCER. They, too, show LOWER neuroticism scores. Among heavy cigarette smokers poor emotional expression is as highly related to cancer as urban residence and is more important than a chronic cough or an air polluted environment (Kissen, 1966).
A ten year observation of all the women who developed cancer in an isolated pupulation of 2,550 showed that they tended to be unstable or sub stable personalities characterized by melancholy and extraversion, especially marked with those of an undecided body build (Hagll, 1966). Personality dynamics effect both the development of cancer and it's SITE. Cancer may result from what appears to be a failure to grow-- somatically, behaviorally and psychologically (Grinker, 1966).
In 109 cases leukemia and lymphoma were associated with a number of losses or separations and with feelings of sadness, anxiety, anger or hopelessness. The PRIMARY FACTOR seems to be the shame and hopelessness of running out of psychological resources (Green, 1966). Cervical cancer patients are less emotionally responsive, more isolative, and less frequently diagnosed as having clinical neuroses than cancer free patients. There is NO CLEAR DIFFERENCE in their FEELINGS and ATTITUDES toward coitus (Rotkin, Qunk, & Couchman, 1965).
Schmidt (1966) surveyed nearly 100 studies of behaviorally induced DIS-EASE in animals CONFIRMING and EXTENDING the DATA on PEOPLE. Behaviorally induced DIS-EASES tend to fall into two groups; (1) Hysteriform problems, which INCLUDE HYSTERICAL SEIZURES and FORMS of AGGRESSION as well as collective panic and epilepsies;
(2) organic modifications, including functional difficulties and lesions affecting gastro intestinal, cardio vascular, respiratory, sexual, endocrine, skin, urinary, and neuro muscular systems.
It is INTERESTING, and SLIGHTLY HORRIFYING, to note that the ONLY SCIENTIFIC RELEVANCE of the standard six hour school day that I have been able to detect in research is that Sawrey and Weisz quite by accident found that six hours on and six hour off of "EXECUTIVE BEHAVIOR" in monkeys was the ONLY TIME STRUCTURE that INDUCED DEATH PRODUCING ULCERS.
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Stress Induced Blindness - Effects Of Emotions On Glaucoma
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Dog going blind, what can I do? Date: 2003-09-28 18:21:31 PST
From: David Wright (djwri...@tesco.net) Subject: Re: Effects of emotions on glaucoma Newsgroups: alt.support.glaucoma Date: 1999/07/01
The role of stress in glaucoma is difficult to establish but anecdotal evidence from many doctors suggests that it might well play a role in glaucoma. As far as we know there are not any clinical papers on the subject, indeed part of the problem in investigating the relationship of stress to any condition is that the investigation itself tends to be somewhat stressful. However, the best advice would be to keep stress levels as low as possible without raising them again by worrying about it.
David Wright MSAE Chief Executive, International Glaucoma Association
While we are pleased to offer the above information, it is not possible for the International Glaucoma Association to advise on an individual patient's eye condition or treatment as this has to be the role of their own doctor or eye specialist who knows the full details of their particular case.
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m...@my-deja.com wrote:
>I seem to recall hearing on occasion the role of stress on >eye pressure. My doc asked me on my last tonometry if I was >under stress. However, after researching the subject I cannot >find out anything.
> Many areas of medicine have acknowleged >the role of stress reduction on things such as blood >pressure, the immune system, pain sensitivity etc.
> What about things like anxiety, insomnia, anger, depression, > etc and the effects on eye pressure. Is there any correlation? >Does biofeedback have any effect on reducing eye pressure? If >there hasn't been any research like this there should be! I >would appreciate any thoughts on this subject.
>Thanks. From: ritch (r...@inx.inx.net) Subject: Re: Cerebrospinal Pressure,Glaucoma, etc. Newsgroups: sci.med.vision, alt.support.glaucoma Date: 1996/01/26
2. Constant elevated IOP was shown to block axoplasmic transport at the level of the lamina cribrosa a generation ago by electron microscopic studies. However, it has more recently been advocated that shear stress is just as important. In the latter case, changes in IOP can cause sliding of the plates of the lamina cribrosa over each other, twisting and damaging the axons that pass through it.
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They begin with a fascinating discussion of how the eye functions, including information like "the entire blood volume of the body passes through the eyes every 40 minutes or so."
Although many of us don't realize it, our eyes are the first to suffer when we feel physical or mental stress. They also cite studies showing that allergies in children improve when their vision is enhanced through vision therapy.
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Stress Induced Blindness - Effects Of Emotions On Glaucoma
From: Ray Bonar (b...@tiac.net) Subject: Angle-closure Glaucoma - Clinical types Date: 1997/12/27
Angle-closure Glaucoma - Clinical types
Robert Ritch Ronald F. Lowe
The nomenclature for the various clinically distinct types and modes of presentation of angle-closure glaucoma has been inconsistently used by different investigators, by investigators in different countries, and at different points in time. As a result, there is a moderate amount of confusion regarding terminology. This pertains in particular to the terms intermittent, prodromal, and subacute; chronic and creeping; and combined mechanism versus mixed mechanism.
Angle-closure glaucoma has long been divided by convention into "primary" and "secondary" forms. Primary angle-closure, or relative pupillary block, is the most common mechanism of angle-closure glaucoma and studies of series of patients with acute angle-closure have been based on this concept. It should be recognized that publications dealing with characteristics of patients with "angle-closure glaucoma" include not only relative pupillary block but other mechanisms as well. However, because relative pupillary block forms the greatest proportion, the data should be regarded as not inordinately skewed.
PRESENTATION Angle-closure glaucoma can present with a spectrum of symptomatology, from none at all to severe pain, blurred vision, and nausea. The terminology is based upon the signs and symptoms at the time of diagnosis, and these should not be though of as specific "types" of angle-closure, but merely descriptive phenomena which may vary with time in any individual patient (see Fig. 38-1). For example, a patient with a narrow angle and peripheral anterior synechiae (chronic angle-closure) may have symptoms of intermittent angle-closure attacks which, if not detected or diagnosed, can later present as acute angle-closure glaucoma. The mode of presentation depends on a combination of the percentage of the filtering meshwork occluded by the iris, the rapidity with which the occlusion occurs, and the ease of reversal of the iridotrabecular block. Fourman[Fourman, 1989 #2738] has published a useful flow chart to aid the ophthalmologist in dealing with acute angle-closure glaucoma.
Intermittent angle-closure Intermittent angle-closure defines repeated, brief episodes of angle-closure with mild symptoms and elevated intraocular pressure. These resolve spontaneously and ocular function is normal between attacks. Intermittent angle-closure is often a prelude to acute angle-closure. The intraocular pressure is high enough to cause symptoms, but not as high as in a full-blown attack. This may be due to partial angle-closure, which could affect more the narrower superior part of the angle,[Leighton, 1971 #184] or 360° of closure with just enough functioning meshwork remaining above the level of closure to allow some aqueous to escape, or perhaps to a freely reactive pupil, which allows spontaneous reversal of the symptoms once the triggering element is removed.
Intermittent attacks are most commonly associated with fatigue, dim light, and using the eyes for near work (see Table 38-1). They tend to recur under similar circumstances and at about the same time of day or evening. The symptoms are a dull ache in or around one eye and mildly blurred vision. Halos around lights are often not seen unless the patient is outdoors. Haloes are believed to result from stretching of the corneal lamellae, causing the cornea to act as a diffraction grating, producing a blue-green central halo and a yellow-red peripheral one. Halos that are seen every night are caused by cataracts, corneal disease, or persistently high intraocular pressure. Transient monocular visual loss has also been noted.[Ravitz, 1984 #185]
The patient may recognize the cause and avoid or reduce the activity, such as watching television or reading. The attacks last for about a half hour after cessation of the inciting activity. Sleep is so often recognized as beneficial that many patients go to bed early or take a nap to obtain relief. Amelioration of the attack is attributed to sleep-induced miosis and possibly to decreased intraocular pressure resulting from decreased aqueous humor secretion.[Reiss, 1984 #186] If the symptoms persist overnight, a true attack has developed.
Initially, intermittent attacks occur at intervals of weeks or months, but eventually may occur almost nightly. They may continue uneventfully for months or years. Usually only one eye is involved, but bilateral attacks can occur. Because the eyes appear normal between attacks except for a narrow angle, the diagnosis is frequently missed, and even ophthalmologists may be misled by the patient's self-diagnosis of migraine, sinusitis, anxiety or eyestrain.
Examination reveals shallow anterior chambers, iris bombé, narrow angles, and sometimes an enlarged or oval pupil. Provocative testing may result in angle-closure, elevated intraocular pressure, and reproduction of the patient's symptoms.
The end result of intermittent angle-closure glaucoma usually differs between whites and races with thick, heavily pigmented irides. In whites the attacks are essentially benign and may recur for years without causing damage. Attacks may be accompanied by progressive PAS formation, leading to chronic angle-closure. The greatest danger lies in the possibility of sudden conversion to acute angle-closure glaucoma. Laser iridotomy is definitive if the eye is otherwise normal and the angle not occludable by mechanisms other than pupillary block.
In Asians the history may be consistent with intermittent angle-closure glaucoma, but the intraocular pressure is often elevated and the angle variably closed by PAS, depending on the frequency and severity of the attacks. Asian eyes are more prone to "creeping" angle-closure and PAS formation. Iridotomy alone may be insufficient to control intraocular pressure. Blacks also have a greater tendency to develop chronic angle-closure, but it is our impression that the anterior chambers are often deeper than those of Asians and that iris bombé is much less frequent. Both intermittent and acute attacks are less common in blacks than in Asians. Comparative biometric studies would greatly help to increase our understanding of angle-closure in these groups.
Subacute angle-closure glaucoma Subacute angle-closure describes a stage in which attacks may be more frequent and prolonged than in intermittent angle-closure, but less so than in acute angle-closure. At least in some cases, this is caused by less than total closure of the angle.[Chandler, 1955 #187] Symptoms of blurred vision, pain, and halos may be more marked than in intermittent angle-closure. Attacks may occur over months or years, finally leading to an acute attack. Subacute attacks are much more common in Asians than in whites and can cause severe damage without much inflammation. They tend to produce a chronically dilated pupil, mild iris atrophy, PAS, and pigment on the iris close to the inferior angle. Intraocular pressure levels and glaucomatous disc and visual field damage vary according to the severity and duration of the attacks.
Acute Angle-closure Glaucoma Precipitating events Acute angle-closure glaucoma can lead to irreversible damage. Various stimuli may trigger an attack. Most attacks occur during the evening, beginning mildly and rapidly increasing in severity. Approximately one-third of patients describe episodes of intermittent or subacute angle-closure having occurred before the acute attack. The physiological factors that convert relative pupillary block to absolute pupillary block remain poorly understood, as are those that determine whether an eye will develop acute or chronic angle-closure. Although pupillary block is the common underlying mechanism, the course of the disease depends on the degree and suddenness of the block, the flaccidity and physiologic responses of the iris, and the width and depth of the anterior chamber angle.
Absolute pupillary block is most commonly triggered when the pupil is middilated, about 3.5 to 6 mm in diameter.[Chandler, 1952 #105] In this position, the combination of pupillary block and relaxation of the peripheral iris, allowing its forward displacement into the anterior chamber, are maximal. Mapstone[Mapstone, 1968 #127] concluded that the posteriorly directed forces of the dilator and sphincter muscles and the stretching force of the sphincter during contraction are greatest when the pupil is middilated.
The most common precipitating events include illness, emotional stress, trauma, intense concentration, and pharmacologic pupillary dilation.[Sugar, 1941 #116; Lowe, 1961 #8957] The role of emotional stress in inducing acute angle-closure should not be underestimated.[Inman, 1929 #190; Egan, 1955 #189; Cross, 1960 #188] A memorable example was a patient who, after narrowly missing being injured by a grenade thrown through his living room window as an expression of some differences of opinion, immediately developed bilateral attacks. Attacks rarely begin simultaneously in both eyes. Minor differences in anterior chamber depth almost invariably result in the eye with the shallower chamber being involved first.
A multitude of other inciting factors have been presented in case reports, including acute infectious disorders, acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, tumors, and trauma. In many of these cases, the mechanism either has not been delineated or the block is posterior to the lens, due to uveal effusion.
Symptoms and signs The symptoms of an acute attack result from the sudden, marked elevation of intraocular pressure to as high as 80 mmHg. Corneal edema results in blurred vision and intense pain and, secondarily, in lacrimation and lid edema. These, in combination with anxiety and fatigue, lead to nausea and vomiting, whereas vasovagal responses cause bradycardia and diaphoresis. Systemic symptoms may be so severe as to mislead the nonophthalmologist, and some patients have actually undergone unwarranted exploratory laparotomy. We saw one patient whose ataxia, blurred vision, and diagnosis of multiple sclerosis disappeared after laser iridotomy.
The diagnosis is usually straightforward (Fig. 38-2). Central visual acuity is reduced and the intraocular pressure is markedly elevated. The lids are swollen and there is conjunctival hyperemia and circumcorneal injection. The cornea is edematous and the pupil usually middilated and vertically oval because of iris sphincter ischemia. The anterior chamber is shallow but usually formed centrally, whereas the midperipheral iris is bowed anteriorly and may touch the cornea peripherally. An inflammatory reaction is present in the anterior chamber. Hypopyon can occur in severe or prolonged attacks.[Zhang, 1984 #8961; Friedman, 1972 #8966]
Corneal edema may initially limit gonioscopic and posterior segment examination, even after the topical application of glycerin. Inability to open the angle with indentation gonioscopy at this stage does not mean that the angle will remain sealed after iridotomy, nor does it accurately reflect the presence or extent of PAS. Examination of the opposite eye is particularly useful in differentiating acute angle-closure glaucoma from neovascular, uveitic or phacolytic glaucoma, and usually reveals a shallow anterior chamber and narrow angle.
The optic nerve head may be hyperemic and edematous early in the attack. With prolonged attacks or cases in which unrecognized chronic angle-closure glaucoma precedes an acute attack, pallor and cupping, along with visual field damage, may be present. Central retinal vein occlusion may occur as a result of an acute attack[Tornquist, 1958 #195; Sonty, 1981 #2801] or may precipitate one.[Bloome, 1977 #630; Grant, 1973 #631; Hyams, 1972 #632; Mendelsohn, 1985 #633; Weber, 1987 #634; Segal, 1986 #2796]
Visual field changes associated with acute pressure elevation usually show nonspecific generalized or upper field constriction.[McNaught, 1974 #191] Early loss of central vision, enlargement of the blind spot, and nerve fiber bundle defects may be found.[Douglas, 1975 #204; Horie, 1975 #635] After normalization of intraocular pressure, the visual fields may also normalize, or patients may be left with reduced color vision, generalized decreased sensitivity, or specific defects. These may be exaggerated by cataract formation or progression.
An attack may terminate spontaneously if iris atrophy from tissue necrosis allows aqueous humor to percolate through the iris stroma, equivalent functionally to a spontaneous iridotomy.(Fig. 38-4) However, this occurs more frequently as a result of suppression of aqueous secretion by the high pressure. Spontaneous termination may also be facilitated by a change in the position of the lens-iris contact, or segmental iris constriction with peaking of the pupil.[Phillips, 1963 #192]
Chronic Angle-closure Glaucoma Chronic angle-closure refers to an eye in which portions of the anterior chamber angle are permanently closed by PAS. Variable and sometimes conflicting terminology has been used to describe somewhat differently appearing forms. The approach to therapy is similar in all of them. The terminology used in this section is an attempt to differentiate the two pathways by which chronic angle-closure can develop.
In the first, iris bombé from relative pupillary block may appositionally close the angle. Prolonged apposition or repeated subacute attacks lead to gradual PAS formation. These usually begin in the superior angle, which is narrower than the inferior angle,[Bhargava, 1973 #142; Mapstone, 1977 #636] as pinpoint synechiae reaching to the midtrabecular meshwork and then gradually expanding in width. In early cases, in which appositional closure is present but PAS have not yet formed, we prefer the term chronic appositional closure. This condition can lead to elevated intraocular pressure and glaucomatous disc and visual field damage without PAS formation.[Foulds, 1957 #637]
Eyes with progressive PAS formation may eventually develop an acute attack of angle-closure when pupillary block results in closure of the remaining portions of the angle unaffected by PAS. Many cases, however, develop elevated intraocular pressure and glaucomatous damage in the absence of symptoms. The presentation is similar to that of open-angle glaucoma, with progression of glaucomatous cupping and visual field loss. This is the situation most commonly associated in the United States with chronic angle-closure glaucoma. However, eyes with the same appearance but normal intraocular pressure merely constitute an earlier stage.
PAS may also form during an acute attack, remaining after iridotomy has opened the unaffected portions of the angle. These PAS are usually high and broad. When first observed at this stage, it is impossible to determine whether the PAS formed before or during the attack, or at both times.
In eyes with darker irides, a second mechanism of progressive angle-closure is more common. The closure is circumferential and begins in the deepest portion of the angle. Closure occurs more evenly in all quadrants, so that the angle progressively becomes more shallow. The appearance over time is of a progressively more anterior iris insertion. Lowe[Lowe, 1964 #194] has termed this creeping angle-closure. The PAS gradually creep up the ciliary face to the scleral spur and then to the trabecular meshwork.
Insertion of the iris at or anterior to the scleral spur is rare in young individuals, and in many eyes with angle-closure glaucoma that have such an insertion, creeping angle-closure is the underlying reason. Creeping angle-closure is uncommon in whites but much more prevalent in Asians, in whom it ranks high as a cause of blindness. Black patients with angle-closure also tend to have this form. It occurs in eyes with slightly deeper, though still shallow, anterior chambers than are found in acute angle-closure. The gradual shortening of the angle in the presence of iris bombé brings the peripheral iris close to the external angle wall more and more anteriorly, narrowing the gap between the iris and the trabecular meshwork. Eventually, an acute attack may supervene (more commonly in Asians), or the PAS may permanently occlude the trabecular meshwork and lead to elevated intraocular pressure and glaucomatous damage (more commonly in black patients).
The intraocular pressure in eyes with chronic angle-closure may be normal or elevated. As PAS formation progresses in the absence of intermittent attacks, the pressure rises gradually as less and less functional trabecular meshwork becomes available. In eyes with intermittent attacks, the pressure rises more rapidly relative to the extent of PAS formation caused by recurrent damage to the trabecular meshwork by the transient angle-closure.
Dispersed pigment granules collect in the iridocorneal angle where the peripheral iris is in contact with the cornea. Dense blotches of pigment on the meshwork, particularly in the superior angle, or deposits of black pigment in the angle of a lightly pigmented iris, are highly suggestive of previous appositional closure. If the angle opens, this deposited line of pigment shows the extent of previous angle closure and can sometimes be a helpful diagnostic feature.
The anterior chamber is quiet and usually deeper than in eyes with acute angle-closure glaucoma. The pupil is normal. The gradual elevation of intraocular pressure does not result in corneal endothelial decompensation, and edema is rare. The intraocular pressure is usually less than 40 mmHg and does not reach the levels found in acute angle-closure glaucoma. Symptoms are absent until the pressure rises high enough to affect the cornea or until extensive visual field damage has occurred. Although iridotomy will eliminate the pupillary block, intraocular pressure often remains elevated, and further medical treatment or surgery is required.
Absolute Glaucoma Absolute glaucoma refers to an eye with no light perception and a persistently elevated intraocular pressure. The angle initially may be open or closed, but in phakic eyes an intumescent cataract often develops and leads to an associated angle-closure. The time required for a neglected angle-closure attack to cause total blindness is variable and depends on the severity of the acute attack, but appears to be an average of 1 to 2 years.
Treatment is palliative and intraocular surgery is unwarranted. If corneal edema and pain are not relieved by topical beta-adrenergic blocking agents, steroids, and cycloplegics, noninvasive cycloablation may be performed. If this is insufficient or if complications such as phacolytic glaucoma develop, evisceration or enucleation may be necessary. Phthisis bulbi is not an uncommon outcome.
PLATEAU IRIS Plateau iris configuration refers to the anatomic structure in which the iris root angulates forward and then centrally.[Tornquist, 1958 #195] In many cases, the iris root is short and is inserted anteriorly on the ciliary face, so that the angle is shallow and narrow, with a sharp drop-off of the peripheral iris at the inner aspect of the angle. The iris surface appears flat and the anterior chamber is not unusually shallow on slit-lamp examination.
Plateau iris syndrome refers to the development of angle-closure, either spontaneously or after pupillary dilation, in an eye with plateau iris configuration despite the presence of a patent iridectomy or iridotomy. Some patients may develop acute angle-closure glaucoma[Godel, 1968 #196; Lowe, 1968 #197; Lowe, 1981 #198; Wand, 1977 #199] The risk of postoperative pupillary dilation after iridectomy or iridotomy is infrequently realized.
Until recently, plateau iris syndrome was considered a rare entity. We have differentiated two subtypes.[Lowe, 1989 #2841] In the complete syndrome, which comprises the classic situation and is rare, intraocular pressure rises when the angle closes with pupillary dilation. In the incomplete syndrome, intraocular pressure does not change. The important factor differentiating the complete and incomplete syndromes is the level of the iris stroma with respect to the angle structures, or the "height" to which the plateau rises . If the angle closes to the upper trabecular meshwork or Schwalbe's line, intraocular pressure rises, whereas if the angle closes partially, leaving the upper portion of the filtering meshwork open, the pressure will not rise. This is a far more common situation and is clinically significant as these patients can develop PAS up to years after a successful iridotomy produces what appears as a well-opened angle.
Plateau iris results from large and/or anteriorly positioned ciliary processes holding up the peripheral iris and maintaining its apposition to the trabecular meshwork .[Pavlin, 1992 #240; Ritch, 1992 #1046; Wand, 1993 #3212] When indentation gonioscopy is performed in such an eye, the ciliary processes prevent posterior movement of the peripheral iris. As a result, a sinuous configuration results (sine wave sign), in which the iris follows the curvature of the lens, reaches its deepest point at the lens equator, then rises again over the ciliary processes before dropping peripherally. Much more force is needed during gonioscopy to open the angle than in pupillary block because the ciliary processes must be displaced, and the angle does not open as widely. In a morphometric study of the ciliary sulcus, Orgül et al.[Orgül, 1993 #2835] proposed that the displacement of the pars plicata from the peripheral iris to the iris root during embryogenesis may be incomplete in eyes of shorter axial length. Darkroom gonioscopy is important in plateau iris as well as in pupillary block, and an angle which appears open in the light can close in the dark.
Patients with plateau iris tend to be female, younger (30s to 50s) and less hyperopic than those with relative pupillary block, and often have a family history of angle-closure glaucoma. Except in the rare younger patients (20s and 30s), some element of pupillary block is also present. However, because of the nature of the anatomic relationships of the structures surrounding the posterior chamber, the degree of relative pupillary block necessary to induce angle-closure is less than that in primary angle-closure glaucoma; this seems to account for the deeper anterior chamber and flatter iris surface in eyes with angle-closure and plateau iris. Patients with plateau iris who develop angle-closure glaucoma are also somewhat younger than those with pupillary block angle-closure glaucoma. As a general rule, the older the patient, the less prominent the angulation of the peripheral iris and the greater the element of pupillary block. Iridotomy is successful at opening the angle when a component of pupillary block is present, but periodic gonioscopy remains indicated, as the angle can narrow further with age due to enlargement of the lens.
If plateau iris was not diagnosed before iridotomy and intraocular pressure is elevated postlaser, careful gonioscopy should be performed. If the angle is open, secondary damage to the trabecular meshwork or pigment liberation with dilation are the most likely causes. If the angle is closed, the differential diagnosis, besides plateau iris, should include malignant glaucoma, in which the anterior chamber is extremely shallow; PAS, which can be ruled out by indentation gonioscopy; or incomplete iridectomy.
Although plateau iris syndrome is usually recognized in the postoperative period, it may develop years later. Patients with plateau iris configuration should not be assumed to be permanently cured, even though plateau iris syndrome does not develop immediately.
IRIDOSCHISIS Iridoschisis is a separation of the anterior and posterior iris stromal layers which occurs primarily in older women. It is usually bilateral, but may be asymmetric. The amount of stromal separation can sometimes be dramatic. Iridoschisis has been associated in the literature with narrow angles and angle-closure glaucoma.[Romano, 1972 #203; Salmon, 1992 #8638; Loewenstein, 1948 #8969; Loewenstein, 1945 #8968; Haik, 1952 #8970; McCulloch, 1950 #8971; Mills, 1967 #8972; Rodrigues, 1983 #8973; Carter, 1953 #8974] Whether angle-closure requires an eye with a preexisting narrow angle is unknown.
ANGLE-CLOSURE GLAUCOMAS ASSOCIATED WITH DRUGS AND OTHER DISORDERS Miotic-induced Angle-closure Glaucoma
Prolonged miotic treatment in eyes with open-angle glaucoma and narrow angles may lead to pupillary block and angle-closure glaucoma. We have seen chronic angle-closure develop after several years of miotic therapy in eyes that initially had wide open angles. In some eyes, zonular relaxation occurs more readily than in others, so that anterior lens movement and an increase in axial lens thickness may facilitate pupillary block and angle-closure. In other eyes, there is little change in the lens, but progressively increasing pressure in the posterior chamber gradually pushes the peripheral iris against the trabecular meshwork. It is our impression that eyes with exfoliation syndrome are particularly prone to develop miotic-induced angle-closure. In these eyes, the iris is thicker and stiffer than normal due to deposition of exfoliation material within the stroma. In addition, zonular weakness allows the lens to move forward, leading to pupillary block.
Less commonly, miotic therapy can have a pronounced effect on lens position and trigger malignant glaucoma.[Gorin, 1966 #625; Levene, 1972 #638; Merritt, 1977 #639; Rieser, 1972 #626] Unequal anterior chamber depths, a progressive increase in myopia, or progressive shallowing of the anterior chamber are clues to the correct diagnosis.
Combined Mechanism Glaucoma Combined mechanism glaucoma refers to situations in which both open-angle and angle-closure components are present. A patient may have open-angle glaucoma and either narrow angles with superimposed intermittent angle-closure glaucoma or miotic-induced angle-closure. The most common situation is that in which angle-closure, either acute or chronic, is eliminated by iridotomy and/or iridoplasty and intraocular pressure still remains elevated, with or without the presence of PAS of any extent. Another situation occurs in eyes with exfoliation syndrome successfully treated for angle-closure glaucoma, in which open-angle glaucoma can develop independently years later with progressive blockage of the trabecular meshwork. In all of these cases, the residual open-angle component is treated as open-angle glaucoma.
Mixed Mechanism Glaucoma This term is often used interchangeably with combined mechanism glaucoma, creating additional confusion. It is better to reserve this term to describe residual appositional angle-closure by another mechanism (plateau iris, phacomorphic, ciliary block) remaining after elimination of pupillary block with partial opening of the angle.
Phacomorphic Glaucoma Swelling of the lens may convert an anterior chamber of medium depth into one that is markedly shallow and precipitate acute angle-closure glaucoma. In countries in which cataracts are prevalent and operations not readily available, acute angle-closure glaucoma from swollen hypermature lenses is common. Again, some element of pupillary block may also be present. Phacomorphic glaucoma is often unresponsive to medical therapy, and paradoxical reactions to pilocarpine are common. Pilocarpine, even in elderly patients, increases axial lens thickness and causes anterior lens movement, further shallowing the anterior chamber.[Abramson, 1973 #89]
Slight lens subluxation in eyes of elderly patients, formerly termed senile subluxation of the lens, is most commonly associated with exfoliation syndrome. Mild iridodonesis may be seen. In some cases, anterior lens movement may be sufficient to cause angle-closure glaucoma, usually chronic. These eyes are more susceptible to the development of miotic-induced angle-closure during treatment for open-angle glaucoma. Iridotomy usually suffices to eliminate pupillary block and the angle-closure component.
In younger patients anterior lens movement is often associated with secondary causes or ciliary block. After iridotomy, iridoplasty may be necessary to eliminate continued appositional closure if cycloplegics are unsuccessful at maintaining a more posterior lens position and an open angle. This topic is discussed more fully in Chapter 58.
Malignant Glaucoma Malignant (ciliary block) glaucoma[Levene, 1972 #638; Shaffer, 1978 #640; Simmons, 1972 #641; Weiss, 1972 #642; Dueker, 1994 #4726] is a multifactorial disease in which the following components may play varying roles: (1) previous acute or chronic angle-closure glaucoma, (2) shallowness of the anterior chamber, (3) forward movement of the lens, (4) pupillary block by the lens or vitreous, (5) slackness of the zonules, (6) anterior rotation and/or swelling of the ciliary body, (7) thickening of the anterior hyaloid membrane, (8) expansion of the vitreous, and (9) posterior aqueous displacement into or behind the vitreous. This topic is covered in Chapter 39.
Swelling or anterior rotation of the ciliary body with forward rotation of the lens-iris diaphragm and relaxation of the zonular apparatus causes anterior lens displacement which in turn causes direct angle-closure by physically pushing the iris agains the trabecular meshwork.[Phelps, 1974 #643] Accurate diagnosis and treatment are often more difficult when the initiating event is posterior to the lens-iris diaphragm.
In predisposed eyes, miotic therapy can have a pronounced effect on lens position and trigger malignant glaucoma.[Gorin, 1966 #625; Levene, 1972 #638; Merritt, 1977 #639; Rieser, 1972 #626] Unequal anterior chamber depths, a progressive increase in myopia, or progressive shallowing of the anterior chamber are clues to the correct diagnosis.
Malignant glaucoma may occur following cataract surgery with posterior chamber intraocular lens implantation.[Brown, 1986 #1255; Epstein, 1984 #1395; Lynch, 1986 #2773; Duy, 1987 #2729; Reed, 1990 #1054; Vajpayee, 1991 #2812; Tello, 1993 #1963] The differential diagnosis includes pupillary block, choroidal hemorrhage, and ciliochoroidal effusion with anterior rotation of the ciliary body and secondary angle closure. Shallowing of the central anterior chamber occurs in pseudophakic malignant glaucoma, but not in pupillary block. Rupture of the anterior hyaloid face is usually curative and allows aqueous to move into the anterior segment. We have examined several patients with presumed aqueous misdirection in whom an annular ciliary body detachment had caused anterior movement of the ciliary body. Whether a posterior diversion of aqueous flow is present in these disorders is unknown. Some of the disorders that can lead to this picture are covered in other chapters. These include drug sensitivity (e.g., sulfonamides, see Chapter 56); angle-closure after panretinal photocoagulation, central retinal vein occlusion, or scleral buckling procedures (see Chapters 50 and 51); uveal effusion from posterior segment inflammation; ciliary body swelling, inflammation, or cysts ; posterior segment tumors (see Chapter 52). Aphakic and pseudophakic malignant glaucoma are discussed in Chapter 61.
Retinopathy of prematurity Angle-closure may occur in very young children with retinopathy of prematurity due to forward shifting of the lens-iris diaphragm (see also Chapter 44).[Cohen, 1964 #8926; Hittner, 1979 #1894; Pollard, 1980 #5292; McCormick, 1971 #1898; Laws, 1994 #8928; Kushner, 1982 #1057] These children do not respond to iridotomy. In young adults with this condition, there appears to be a superimposed element of pupillary block, and iridotomy may be successful.[Ueda, 1988 #8927; Smith, 1984 #1899]
Nanophthalmos Nanophthalmos is a bilateral, often familial form of microphthalmos unaccompanied by other congenital malformations. It is characterized by hyperopia, small corneal diameter, thick sclera, and narrow angles.[O'Grady, 1971 #8231] Angle-closure glaucoma usually appears between the ages of 20 and 50 years. Although by definition, nanophthalmos refers to an eye of axial length less than 20 mm, there is obviously a gradient of hyperopic refraction, the degree of hyperopia correlating inversely with axial length. There is an inverse correlation between the degree of hyperopia and the age of onset of angle-closure. The youngest reported patient was 9 years old with 21 diopters of hyperopia.[Hatcher, 1952 #8962] However, acute angle-closure glaucoma can also develop in the elderly.[Cross, 1976 #8964]
The sclera in nanophthalmic eyes is abnormally thick.[Brockhurst, 1975 #2710] Electron microscopy reveals disordered collagen bundles and fraying of collagen fibrils, with absence of elastic fibers.[Trelstad, 1982 #5595; Stewart, 1991 #2804] In tissue culture, scleral fibroblasts of eyes with nanophthalmos appear to have an abnormal glycosamine metabolism, which might explain the abnormal packing of collagen bundles and scleral thickening.[Shiono, 1992 #2798] Uveal effusion is common, either spontaneously or after surgical procedures, including filtration surgery or cataract extraction.[Brockhurst, 1975 #2710; Ryan, 1982 #8963] Associations with retinitis pigmentosa[Ghose, 1985 #8230; MacKay, 1987 #1042] and Hallerman-Streiff syndrome[Stewart, 1991 #2804] have been reported.
Laser iridotomy for angle-closure is usually unsuccessful or only temporarily successful. If successful initially, lens enlargement with age can lead to appositional closure. Iridoplasty (gonioplasty) to flatten the peripheral iris was first reported in 1979 by Kimbrough et al.[Kimbrough, 1979 #1412] Combined iridotomy and iridoplasty often brings the angle-closure under control.[Jin, 1990 #2759] Uveal effusions have been reported after both laser iridotomy[Karjalainen, 1986 #1408] and trabeculoplasty.[Good, 1988 #2742] The risks of surgical intervention include malignant glaucoma, expulsive suprachoroidal hemorrhage, and retinal detachment.[Hyams, 1990 #8965] Posterior sclerotomy may or may not be successful at preventing uveal effusion.[Calhoun, 1975 #8047; Jin, 1990 #2759] Vortex vein decompression for nanophthalmic uveal effusion was described by Brockhurst,[Brockhurst, 1980 #5305] but the technique is technically difficult. Partial thickness sclerectomies and sclerostomies were reported in one patient to achieve complete resolution of retinal and choroidal detachments, suggesting impairment of transscleral protein transport as a primary pathophysiologic mechanism in nanophthalmic uveal effusion.[Allen, 1988 #1921] Subsequently, Wax et al. described success with anterior lamellar sclerectomy without sclerostomy.[Wax, 1992 #2820]
CLINICAL PATHOLOGY OF ANGLE-CLOSURE GLAUCOMA When the angle totally occludes, aqueous outflow is blocked, and intraocular pressure rises markedly. The effect of the elevated pressure depends on the magnitude and rapidity of its rise. At the same time the pupillary reaction to direct light decreases. The pupil becomes partly dilated and tends to assume a vertically oval shape, but may be oblique or even horizontal.
Cornea With very high intraocular pressure, corneal edema is severe. Transient loss of sensitivity can occur.[Patel, 1988 #2787] The cornea is cloudy and may be twice its usual thickness. Endothelial cell density is reduced by as much as 33% following an acute attack and is greater the longer the duration of the attack.[Bigar, 1982 #644; Mapstone, 1985 #121; Markowitz, 1984 #652; Brooks, 1991 #8958; Olsen, 1980 #3558; Malaise-Stals, 1984 #8959] Corneal decompensation may occur in eyes with preexisting endothelial compromise.[Krontz, 1988 #1932; Hyams, 1983 #8960] When the pressure is lowered, the edema clears first at the periphery. Folds in Descemet's membrane form. Following prolonged high pressure, corneal edema and striate keratopathy may persist for some days. With severe damage, chronic edema may persist, lipid is deposited, and the cornea may become fibrosed and vascularized.
Iris Partial necrosis of the iris stroma is the first sign of damage from elevated intraocular pressure experimentally. [Anderson, 1975 #200] At pressures over 60 mmHg, the pupil becomes increasingly resistant to miotics, probably caused by direct pressure on the sphincter muscle.[Charles, 1970 #201] The sphincter may respond to miotics after the pressure has been lowered, but when intraocular pressure exceeds the diastolic blood pressure, the iris around the pupil becomes ischemic.[Charles, 1970 #201]
The sphincter muscle then loses its ability to contract even if intraocular pressure is lowered, and patchy atrophy of the iris occurs. The dilator muscle is less affected than the sphincter, so that the instillation of 10% phenylephrine usually causes increased pupillary dilation.
In the segments in which the stroma is not obviously atrophic, the pupillary margin is thick, rolled, and bunched with radial folds. At the margins of the atrophic area, the stromal fibers run obliquely to the periphery behind the edges of the atrophic area, thus producing a twisting of this border zone of the stroma[Winstanley, 1961 #202]. In severe and prolonged attacks, diffuse iris atrophy occurs.
Sometimes a sector of the iris stroma will be disrupted and look like iridoschisis[Romano, 1972 #203]. This may occur with slow progressive atrophy months or years after the acute attack. The pigment epithelium and dilator muscle can be patchily affected and areas may transilluminate. Posterior synechiae may be minimal or extensive. After iridectomy aqueous humor flowing into the anterior chamber can bypass the pupil, favoring formation of postoperative posterior synechiae.
Ciliary Body In 1973, Kerman et al.[Kerman, 1973 #645] reported that the ciliary processes may be inserted more anteriorly than normal and extend to the peripheral posterior iris in eyes with angle-closure. With the discovery that plateau iris is caused by large and/or anterior ciliary processes, it is now becoming evident that there is a spectrum of ciliary body size and position. The ciliary body itself does not appear to be adversely affected by acute angle-closure glaucoma.
Lens Lens damage can occur as: (1) glaukomflecken, (2) anterior capsular cataract, (3) pigment deposition, posterior synechiae, and fibrosis, (4) cortical cataracts, and (5) nuclear sclerosis.
Glaukomflecken ("glaucoma flakes"), or disseminated anterior subcapsular cataracts of acute glaucoma, are the most characteristic signs of lens damage from sudden severe rises of intraocular pressure. They are thought to be caused by pressure necrosis of anterior lens fibers and do not occur at the posterior pole.
When intraocular pressure is very high, the lens damage simulates a thin, gray deposit of exudate on the lens surface.[Jones, 1959 #646] With a fall in pressure, the sheet becomes thinner in some places and more condensed in others. Holes develop within it, so it may appear as a coarse, irregular, white net.[Lowe, 1965 #647] Later these flakes become more discrete and appear as small, irregular, blue-white plaques. They tend to follow suture lines of the lens, suggesting necrosis of the tips of the lens fibers.
Gradually, the flakes diminish and usually become relatively sparse. As new lens fibers grow from the equator, they overlie the flecks, which sink deeper into the lens and persist as permanent evidence. Glaukomflecken occur almost entirely within the pupil according to its size at the time of the attack.[Sugar, 1946 #648]
Glaukomflecken are rare apart from acute angle-closure glaucoma, but have been seen after contusion and chemical burns and also when the anterior chamber has remained flat postoperatively with the cornea and lens in contact for some days.
Occasionally, small white plaques resembling glaukomflecken may persist in the anterior surface of the lens. These are anterior capsular cataracts. Anterior cortical lens opacities commonly follow severe attacks of angle-closure glaucoma and may persist as faint irregular streaks that almost invariably progress.
The first sign of nuclear sclerosis is a myopic refractive change, which may stabilize or progress. Following severe glaucomatous iritis with extensive posterior synechiae, fibrosis may extend from the iris onto the anterior lens surface.
Zonules The zonules can be damaged, so with surgery the lens may move forward with the development of malignant (ciliary block) glaucoma. Occasionally, the opaque lens may slowly dislocate over the years and sink below the pupil.
Choroid Kubota et al.[Kubota, 1993 #2833] reported decreased choroidal thickness in 12 eyes with angle-closure glaucoma associated with malignant melanoma of the ciliary body. The decreased thickness was primarily due to decreased choroidal vessel diameter, suggesting decreased choroidal perfusion.
Retina and Optic Nerve
In intermittent angle-closure glaucoma, even after many attacks, the optic disc is typically unaffected. During the initial states of an acute attack, the disc may appear normal, congested, or edematous with retinal venous congestion and retinal hemorrhages near the disc. When intraocular pressure is acutely elevated in owl monkeys, damage to the nerve fiber layer and ganglion cells precedes damage to most other tissues except the iris.[Anderson, 1975 #200]
Douglas et al.[Douglas, 1975 #204] found pallor without cupping following acute attacks, and pallor and cupping in patients with chronic angle-closure. Acutely elevated intraocular pressure in monkeys leads to optic disc congestion lasting several days before pallor and cupping develop.[Zimmerman, 1967 #650] Large retinal hemorrhages near the disc can occur with sudden lowering of intraocular pressure as after hyperosmotic or carbonic anhydrase inhibitor therapy. Retinal function is depressed with raised intraocular pressure.[Uenoyama, 1969 #649] Abnormalities of visual evoked potentials have been reported.[Mitchell, 1989 #1906]
In a histological study of 21 eyes with secondary angle-closure glaucoma,Jonas et al.[Jonas, 1992 #1051] found the lamina cribrosa significantly thinner, the optic cup deeper and wider, and the corpora amylacea count lower than in controls.
Parapapillary atrophy was significantly greater and occurred more frequently in glaucomatous eyes and the parapapillary retina was significantly thinner.[Jonas, 1992 #1052] A significantly decreased photoreceptor, but not retinal pigment epithelial, cell count was reported in eyes with angle-closure following penetrating trauma.[Panda, 1992 #2786]
The final effects will depend on severity and duration of the attack. Recovery may be complete or there may be contraction of isopters and nerve fiber bundle defects.[Douglas, 1975 #204; Lowe, 1973 #624] Pallor without cupping was found to be characteristic of discs after acute angle-closure glaucoma, whereas both pallor and cupping occurred in chronic angle-closure.[Douglas, 1975 #204] In prolonged attacks, when treatment is delayed, glaucomatous damage may progress to the point at which vision is reduced to perception of hand movements or light. In chronic angle-closure glaucoma, the visual field defects and optic disc cupping progress similarly to those of open-angle glaucoma.
unsurreality_2005@yahoo.com - 25 Jan 2006 22:48 GMT > Stress Induced Blindness - Effects Of Emotions On Glaucoma > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You can't be jerking and choking and scoldin your > dogs no MOORE And YOU can't keep burning pups up to 106 degrees and being a total a.shole in here to people looking for help.
As of now, THIS is MY newsgroup - not yours. Welcome to Unsurreality's dog training forum!
> You're KILLIN and making your dogs go blind, to boot: ROFL!!!!!!!!
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory@HushMail.Com - 26 Jan 2006 00:26 GMT HOWEDY unsurreality aka mikey duforth you anonymHOWES lyin dog abusing punk thug active acute chronic long term incurable MENTAL CASE,
> > Stress Induced Blindness - Effects Of Emotions On Glaucoma > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > And YOU can't keep burning pups up to 106 degrees The elevation in temp is a NORMAL NATURAL INNATE REFLEXIVE VISCERAL RESPONSE to certain kinds of STRESSORS like EXXXORCISE:
"Studies from the Sports MEdicine center at Auburn indicate that the temperature of a working Lab routinely rises to 106 in the course of about ten minutes' work. The dog then needs to cool off as sustained high temperature can be dangerous."
Amy Dahl <a...@oakhillkennel.com> wrote: There are some interesting studies of body temperature. A working Lab's body temperature apparently goes up to about 106 within the first ten minutes of work.
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HOWEver, THAT'S on accHOWENT of jerking choking shocking ear pinching and BEATIN THEM WITH STICKS.
From: misty (Momi...@webtv.net) Subject: Re: Jerry Howe? Date: 2001-06-23 20:45:28 PST
Sorry, MaryBeth and all, I forget that you don't see threads the same way as I do....I did answer you but it was in an Ed W. to Jerry reply.
Webtv shows threads w/o branching all replies are linear not by subject ( so a thread called Jerry Howe? that has multiple subject lines like Was or OT still are in the same thread.)
I found where the incorrectly posted info came from http://www.ptialaska.net/~pride1/mwpexerc.htm "If you are concerned that a dog might have heat stress, remove the dog from the team and carry it in your sled. Check its temperature with a rectal thermometer as soon as you finish the run.
Dogs routinely have temperatures of 103 to 106 degrees F while running, so don't be surprised by this (normal is 101 to 102 degrees F). However, recheck it every fifteen to thirty minutes. If the dog's temperature is still not normal an hour after the run, call your veterinarian, since you could have a serious problem."
>From Jerry's McProtection post: ""With a shy dog, we usually threaten the handler first, the handler acts scared, the dog wants his pal to be O.K., so they overcome their own fear to protect their "terrified" partner. My dogs foam at the mouth and their temp goes up to 106 degrees in two minutes, and often they'll come down with a case of diarrhea after about ten minutes of work. That's the time frame that I work with for each segment of training."
Key words here 10 minutes. Total of ten minutes of work."
Ok, here's the deal. It won't kill a dog to have an elevated temp for short periods of time. I, myself, have ran fevers of 103 -105 when I had the flu. Here are a few sites about dog temps.
<http://www.familyvet.com/temp.htm> ""DOGS 101.0F-103.0F (Puppies about 1 degree lower until 6-8 weeks old)""
As you can see a temp of 106 is not that great of a difference from a normal dog temp. =====
> and being a total a.shole in here to people looking for help. And HOWE are YOU gonna HEELP them, BLACK VOMIT?
Here's YOU heelpin folks:
unsurreality_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Try this free book - it has helped me so much: > Courteous Canines > http://home.adelphia.net/~nuxodom "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens, But You'll Get Over It." mike duforth, author: "Courteous Canine."
"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently as possible. What does this mean?
When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and continue your normal behavior."
--Mike Dufort author of the zero selling book "Courteous Canines"
> It's SO much better than The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Garbage manual. BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >
You don't even WARN folks that it's YOU promotin YOUR OWN "manual" warnin folks NOT TO CRINGE when dog abusing mental cases HURT and INTIMIDATE their dogs accordin to YOUR INSTRUCTIONS, mikey.
> As of now, THIS is MY newsgroup - not yours. Yeah, but you're a anonymHOWES lyin dog abusing punk thug coward active acute chronic long term incurable MENTAL CASE. You can't even train your own kid not to SNEAK in here to read The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Forums <{) ; ~ ) >
> Welcome to Unsurreality's dog training forum! Care to teach us HOWE to break a dog of EATIN POO?
O.K., that's too difficult. HOWE abHOWET C-HOWENTER surfin or eatin garbage or poisonHOWES STUFF mikey?
> > You're KILLIN and making your dogs go blind, to boot: > > ROFL!!!!!!!! Here's you again mikey aka BLACK VOMIT:
HOWEDY black vomit aka unsurreality aka mike duforth,
BlackVomit wrote:
> >My miniature schnauzer (almost a year old now) has been generally > >apartment-friendly. Except for the occasional "accident", she really > >hasn't been too damaging to the facilities.
> >Until now...
> Hello nfteblj,
> Just wanted to warn you in advance of this pervert, > newsgroup abuser and convicted felon who is trolling > the room. His alias is The Amazing Puppy Wizard > and real name is Jerry Howe.
> Since you are new here, you just got hooked by replying > to this well known netloon and troll. Once he baits you > as he does with others, you became troll bait and he will flame > you and harass you through this newsgroup and in email.
> PLEASE killfile this well known Jerry Howe aka > The Puppy Wizard who is using alot of alias in > here. He is a pathological liar, pervert and > bastard net kook.
> All he does is slander and defame people in > here and never listens when told to stop. He knows > nothing about dog training or canine behavior.
> He just makes this up, his nose gets longer and > longer like Pinocchio due to lying for years > and he has been abusively trolling this newsgroup > and others for years.
> He keeps putting " XXX " in each word, which means > that he is so perverted and he is mentally ill and > off his medication and it is better that all of > you keep him in your killfiles for the time being.
> Please avoid replying to messages from all his aliases.
> The aliases to killfile are:
> We await your response! TRY THIS, mikey:
HOWEDY tommy sorenson aka joey finnochiarrio aka jack morrison aka DOGMAN you anonymHOWES miserable lyin dog abusing punk thug coward active acute chronic long term incurable mental case,
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:
> [] > >Does anyone have any idea of how to reassure my dog and give her > >confidence to enter the kitchen again - or perhaps have an idea of what > >is going on? > > Yes, go about your business as if nothing has happened The dog is havin a PAINICK attack, tommy. Perhaps your PROBLEM is your mommy an daddy IGNORED you when you was SCARED an needed HEELP, eh tommy?
> (which probably hasn't). That's IRRELEVENT, tommy.
> Assuming that you probably feed her in the kitchen, keep doing just that. The dog is AFRAID to go into the kitchen, tommy. REMEMBER?
> Maybe feed her a few treats there, too Dogs are SCAVENGERS. They STEAL scraps of food and run to HIDE to eat them with their backs to the wall in a heightened state of alert.
> (anything she really, really likes). Offering fearful dogs food bribes REINFORCES and INCREASES phobias, tommy.
> Her hunger should eventually get her over any "fears" she might have, Forcing the dog to ENJOY her dinner in a FEARFUL ENVIRONMENT will cause her to suffer indigestion and may cause ULCERS and irritable BHOWEL syndrome, tommy.
> provided you do nothing to reinforce them. You mean like offering her REWARDS for BEIN AFRAID, tommy?
> Good luck! Dog trainin AIN'T LUCK, tommy. "Luck is for SUCKERS," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY <{) ; ~ ) >
> PS: If she acts normally otherwise, I would just let time take its course. INDEED. OtherWIZE you'd jerk and choke and shock her.
> -- > > Handsome Jack Morrison > *gently remove the detonator to send me e-mail Here, permit The Amazing Puppy Wizard to give you a little HEELP with that tricky little pin, tommy? There... NHOWE HOWELD THIS:
Here's lyingdogDUMMY BEATIN a dog to HOWEsbreak IT to save ITS life:
But FIRST, a little good KOEHLER trainin tommy RECOMMENDS:
Koehler On Correcting The Housebreaking Backslider.
"If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they're winning and will continue to mess in the house.
An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he's made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. (Dogs are REALLY stupid. J.H.)
In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him."
"Housebreaking Problems:
"The Koehler Method of Dog Training" Howell Book House, 1996"
Occasionally, there is a pup who seems determined to relieve himself inside the house, regardless of how often he has the opportunity to go outside. This dog may require punishment.
Make certain he is equipped with a collar and piece of line so he can't avoid correction.
When you discover a mess, move in fast, take him to the place of his error, and hold his head close enough so that he associates his error with the punishment.
Punish him by spanking him with a light strap or switch. Either one is better than a folded newspaper.
It is important to your future relationship that you do not rush at him and start swinging before you get hold of him.
When he's been spanked, take him outside. Chances are, if you are careful in your feeding and close observation, you will not have to do much punishing.
Be consistent in your handling.
To have a pup almost house-broken and then force him to commit an error by not providing an opportunity to go outside is very unfair. Careful planning will make your job easier.
The same general techniques of housebreaking apply to grown dogs that are inexperienced in the house.
For the grown dog who was reliable in the house and then backslides, the method of correction differs somewhat.
In this group of "backsliders" we have the "revenge piddler." This dog protests being alone by messing on the floor and often in the middle of a bed.
The first step of correction is to confine the dog closely in a part of the house when you go away, so that he is constantly reminded of his obligation.
The fact that he once was reliable in the house is proof that the dog knows right from wrong, and it leaves you no other course than to punish him sufficiently to convince him that the satisfaction of his wrongdoing is not worth the consequences.
If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they're winning and will continue to mess in the house.
An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he's made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing.
In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment.
It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him.
"Handsome Jack Morrison" <handsomemorri...@thedetonatorearthlink.net> wrote in <message news:a236iv0ngp58gv9jmi818kbmk928rjcokq@4ax.com... > On 26 Jul 2003 22:14:29 GMT, dogstar...@aol.com > (DogStar716) wrote: > > >>>Never mind dogman :) > >> > >>You too? Some folks just never learn. > > > >Uh huh :) > > One of the signs of mental illness is to say "Uh > huh" a lot. > > >>PS: If the "trainer" you were talking about isn't > >>on this list, he (or she) is NOT an approved > >>Koehler trainer, no matter how loud you scream > >>otherwise. > > > >May I laugh again? LOL! One doesn't need to be on > >a list to use Koehlers methods or teach his > >methods. > > Let me be among the first (apparently) to tell you > that not every trainer who uses a leash is a > *Koehler* trainer. > > Sheesh. > > This person may call herself a Koehler trainer, but > if she's hanging 12 week old puppies, she's about as > far from a Koehler trainer as a dog trainer can > possibly be. > > Again, this is just your IGNORANCE showing. > > I can call myself a devout Christian, but if I'm not > adhering to the doctrine, I'm something else. > > >>http://www.koehlerdogtraining.com/patoflearn.html > >Sorry, the very first sentences make me aware that > >whoever wrote it knows nothing about PR based > >training: > > > >"Amidst the current (and politically correct) trend > >in Positive Reinforcement Only training systems" > > > >You cannot use PR only. > > Au contraire. Many, many posters to r.p.d.b. (and > many other places as well) *claim* that they use > nothing but R. You know, the PPers. > > And they do it quite loudly, too. > > Surely you aren't blind (and deaf), as well as > ignorant? > > Those are hard handicaps to overcome, Dogstar. > > >And if you knew anything about PR BASED training, > >you would realize that. It's not all cookies and > >babytalk. > > There is no stronger supporter of R than Handsome > Jack Morrison, but I also use every behavioral tool > in my bag, including R-, P, and P-, because I know > that even R has its limits. > > You'd know that too, if you didn't have your head in > the sand. > > > But that seems to be the battle cry of the > > Koehler-ites. > > The Koehlerites have no battle cry. > > They have behaviorism on their side, and that's more > than enough. > > >I don't need instruction on how to give my dogs a > >proper leash correction as I do not rely on a leash > >to control or teach my dog. > > That may or may not be suitable for your needs, but > it's not suitable for the majority of dog owners, > especially since the advent of leash laws. > > Besides, after just a few weeks of proper Koehler > training, Koehler dogs likewise are no longer in > need of a leash. > > That you apparently don't know that, once again > shows me just how ignorant of anything to do with > Koehler you are. > > >My last two dogs have been trained offleash right > >from the start, using rewards for what I like, and > >nothing for what I don't like. > > Good for you, and if that level of training is good > enough for you, fine. But it's not good enough for > many of the rest of us. > > >Again, I'm not saying Koehler doesn't work. > > I really have no idea what you're saying anymore, > because you apparently know so damn little about > Koehler and behavioral principles in general that > it's hard to have an informed discussion with you. > > PS: It boggles my mind at how stupid you must be to > keep denying that those certain harsh methods are > only for LAST RESORT situations, intended only to > SAVE A DOG'S LIFE, even after I've repeatedly given > you direct *quotes* from Koehler's book saying just > that. It's like you don't even care how stupid > people think you are, or how devious you are, etc. > That can't help your cause any. You'd think that > you'd at least want to *appear* to be honest, even > if you're not. -- Handsome Jack Morrison *gently > remove the detonator to reply via e-mail
"Handsome Jack Morrison" <handsomemorri...@thedetonatorearthlink.net> wrote in <message news:spb3ivgh7prvq9omhka0bcif0tfknv6oop@4ax.com... > On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:52:18 -0400, "Krishur" > <kris_br...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Good books huh? > > Absolutely. Some are, in fact, classics. > > >Which idea was your favorite, the one where they > >tell you to alpha roll a "dominant" dog, > > There's nothing inherently wrong with rolling a dog > (i.e., it *can* and *does* work in *some* > situations). Unfortunately, most people either do it > incorrectly, do it at the wrong time, etc. > > >or where they tell you that you didn't hit him hard > >enough if he doesn't yelp or approaches you within > >5 minutes of his punishment? > > If physical discipline is deemed necessary (after > careful evaluation), it's much more cruel not to get > it over with quickly than it is to do it > incrementally and half-heartedly, which usually only > invites the need for even more discipline. > > >Maybe you liked when they recommend these beatings > >for housebreaking accidents, chewing/destructive > >behavior, stealing, trying to get on your bed > >at night and dog on dog aggression. > > At no time do the Monks *ever* advocate beating a > dog. A swat on the rump or a check to the chin does > *not* constitute a "beating." > > I'm sorry if you don't agree. > > And each of those behavior "problems" needs to be > looked at in its proper context. > > A quote from the Monks: > > "We repeat, these situations may merit physical > discipline. Since no book can pretend to analyze > every individual dog and situation, we feel > obligated to emphasize from the outset that > discipline is never an arbitrary training > technique to be applied to each and every dog for > all offenses. We do, however, believe that physical > and verbal discipline can be an effective technique. > The best policy if you experience any of the above > problems is to consult a qualified trainer or > veterinarian for evaluation of your individual > situation.... > > "If discipline is decided upon as a training > technique, it should be the proper technique. We > feel we have developed several methods that depend > less on violent physical force than timing, a flair > for drama, and the element of surprise. > > We feel an obligation, as responsible trainers, to map > out these methods, rather than simply skip the topic > because it is unpleasant. Dog owners want to know > what to do." > > In other words, physical discipline is reserved for > those serious, special occasions when other methods > have failed. > > For example, they do not recommend using physical > discipline for *routine* housebreaking chores -- > only on those rare occasions when an already > reliably housebroken dog is (after careful > evaluation) deemed to be soiling the house on > purpose, backsliding, etc. > > I'll give you an actual example. Years ago, an > adult dog was brought to me as an *incurable* > house-soiler. It was either get the dog reliably > housetrained or the dog was going on a one way trip > to the pound. Being the kind, compassionate trainer > that I am, I was prepared to do whatever it took to > get this dog house-trained and save his life. > > After several weeks of more or less traditional > training, and to poor result, I brought out the big > guns -- physical and verbal discipline. Whenever the > dog soiled the house (no, you don't even have to > catch him in the act), I immediately (but very > calmly) tossed a leash on his collar, dragged him to > the scene of the crime, and (using a large > chair as a prop) tethered him to the leg of the > chair, with his nose about two inches away from the > poop. After a couple of swats on the rump, some > loud vocalizing, and a wait of about 20 minutes, I'd > release the dog and then ignore him for a while. > > I had to repeat this process *three* times, I think -- > and the house-soiling miraculously stopped. The dog > went home to enjoy a long and contented life with > his original owners, and I got to feel good about > myself. > > So, yes, the Monk's books are good ones. Even for > novices. > > Yup, that's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. > > -- Handsome Jack Morrison *gently remove the > detonator to reply via e-mail
> Things are about to get very interesting... INDEEDY:
HOWEDY marpate1,
marpate1@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Hi all, WELCOME To The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Forums. I'm Jerry Howe, The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >
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> I'm really confused by all of this. Well then you're in EXXXCELLENT company.
> When I arrived home last night, my 1 year old Retriever was sat shaking > in the conservatory and would not enter the kitchen/dining room (ajoining) > at all. She was happy to go outside, but is really scared of the kitchen. Sumpthin musta happened in there.
> Having finally coaxed her through the kitchen, she is happy in > the lounge and upstairs, but still will not enter the kitchen. NO PROBLEMO. You can FIX that NEARLY INSTANTLY if you study and follow the INSTRUCTONS in your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{) ; ~ ) >
> We thought at first that perhaps a mouse or rat was present which > had bitten her, but we can find no evidence and the fact that our cat > is immune to all of this seems to point to a different cause. Perhaps an appliance malfunctioned and made noises?
> It has been suggested that perhaps someone climbed into the house > through the dog flap and terrorised my dog, but I am not sure as she > was confident going through the dog flap. Goin through the flap wouldn't be a problem if she had encHOWENTERED a trespasser inside the kitchen <{) ; ~ ) >
> Does anyone have any idea of how BWEEEEEEEAAAAAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!
You're askin liars dog abusers cowards and active acute chronic long term incurable MENTAL CASES for advice THEY AIN'T GOT. All they know is HOWE to jerk choke shock intimidate bribe crate avoid ignore and murder innocent defenseless dumb critters <{) : - ( >
> to reassure my dog and give her confidence to enter the kitchen again - PRAISE HER NON PHYSICALLY when she appears afraid.
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"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For Dealing With This (Destructive Separation Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33 Years Experience. "His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry. Your Method Takes Positive Training To The Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce, Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.
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"Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:fS2Lc.114567$OB3.42357@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.
Tracy,
What worked for me, in just one storm, was to praise the dog after each clap of thunder, telling him he's a Good Dog!
This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.
The next time it thundered, he did not even react at all--you could not tell it was the same dog as before.
There was more thunder just the other day, and same thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no cowering, whimpering, trying to hide at all, it was that simple.
I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non- abusive way of handling dogs WORKS.
Wonderfully.
Praise.
It's that simple.
Juanita
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Chris Williams writes:
"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what I've always done without thinking of it as "training". New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"
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From: Eric To: jho...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: just checking in...
Jerry!
You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago regarding submissive peeing. Just wanted to let you know he's doing great- he was "cured" in about 2 days using your techniques! He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"! Once I stopped thinking like a human and got inside his head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter of minutes. Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer.
I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed 'em, and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside their heads and teach them to teach themselves how to be good dogs! Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward to working with these guys a couple times a day...
Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I learned from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate their brain rather than beating a.s or pinching, or any of that nonsense. I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to someone who beat MY a.s lol!
Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes out there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs. A horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship". He is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows any more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it (pun intended)... Too cool....
Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!
Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard
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<robin4...@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:04:50 -0700
Subject: Puppy Wizard - Report, Day Two
Success!
I left for about 25 minutes, and when I returned and walked thru the front door - no dog standing there waiting for me! No barking, no whimpering - no anything.
In fact, no dog!
I got worried, looking all over for her. I found her asleep (yes, asleep!!!!) on a pile of clothing that was on the floor in my second bedroom.
I left a tape recorder running while I was gone, but, without realizing it, I had it set to Voice Activation - and it hadn't been activated! I don't think she made a sound while I was gone.
I almost feel ready to give it a big test - leave her at home while I go to a movie, which I haven't been able to do since I got her a little over one year ago.
Both times I employed your technique over the last couple of days, I did so at night. Just because I need to satisfy myself that this is real, I'm going to leave during the day for awhile. I know you'll say it won't make any difference, but gotta do it, gotta test it, gotta assure myself that this is real.
Robin
Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy technique is working wonders.I have not had a shredded sheet for over a week now. Robin.
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From: Hoku Beltz To: The Puppy Wizard Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: Mahalo Aloha Jerry,
Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy technique is working wonders.
I have not had a shredded sheet for over a week now.
It is nice to be able to leave the bed made and come home to a made bed.
Your program is awesome, but you already know that. Keep up the good work!
Hoku ==================
"Hoku Beltz" <h...@rsphawaii.com <mailto:h...@rsphawaii.com>> wrote in message <news:SN2k9.45447$V7.10868114@twister.socal.rr.com>...
Aloha Sunny,
Just follow the training program to the letter, no matter how insignificant some of the step seem to be and your pupy will be a very well behaved dog in a few days.
I would seriously consider backing out of the training classes as they will conflict with the Wit's End principles.
I went the training route first, and still had problems until I found Wits' End.
Now I have two "new and improved" dogs.
You won't be disappointed if you follow the program.
Good luck,
Hoku
Teach her to come according to the INSTRUCTIONS in your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual and ASK her to come through the kitchen and follow the technique and she'll get over her phobia NEARLY INSTANTLY.
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ballzde...@gmail.com wrote:
> Well I am happy to reply that so far after 10 > minutes of work and the cans from mr Howes guide, You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >
> I have instilled the "come" command to Riley. Good. You mean INSTALLED the come command as a conditional reflex. Be SHORE to perform the EXXXORCISES four times in each of four locations.
> He is an extremley smart dog, I have never had > to go to the third or fourth try. From: "BarbnBeau" <bdea...@cogeco.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:52:30 -0500 Re: Puppy Wizard's Website
Hi Buzzsaw
Not a Thing to lose ...But a Lot To Gain!!
I can only speak from my experience.. I have a 8 month old miniature poodle, and although I had done some basic training with him we had a few barking issues ..ugh
I am happy to tell you, I contacted Jerry at the email addy I posted and he was so great! I wasn't following the technique precisely but he helped me get back on track.
Beau is doing sooooo well it is really a thrill working with him, and seeing the remarkable changes.
Now I can ask for "recall" (come) both on and off lead and it is immediate!
the first time I ask.
Best of Luck to you,
Remember if you need help or explanation contact Jerry .. he will be more than happy to help anyway he can.
Cheers Barb
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:06 AM Hello.
I never posted here (or anywhere) before. I never trained or owned a dog before this year.
I downloaded the Wit's End, read it, corresponded with Mr. Howe and trained my dog to come and to stop barking in a weekend.
Our dog, Jake, had been treated with kindness the whole time we had him, about 10 months, but his earlier life is unknown.
I worked on the hot-cold exercise for about 30 minutes when he suddenly "got it". After that he came to me every time with no hesitation.
I used the cans filled with pennies to teach him not to bark. If he now starts to bark, I go to the door or window, say "Good Boy, its' alright" and he usually calms down right away.
A couple of times I had to get the cans out again to reinforce the behavior.
We feel a strong bond with this animal and he is very eager to accept our love.
So with all the vitriolic spewing going on, I have to believe Mr. Howe is right.
His method worked for us.
I don't know if it would have been quite as effective if we had tried another method first.
Florence
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From: "Ray" <mikeflemi...@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:41:46 GMT Subject: re: Jerry Howe
Jerry, I will say this. You catch alot of flak in this newsgroup and I've been peeping in here for 4 months since I got my Mastiff. I don't know you or pretend to know you but the things that I've tried that you've suggested HAS worked.
I've had dogs in the past that I bribed with food and even spanked with a newspaper and honestly, that didn't work.
The pack exercise worked, and getting my dog to come to me is no problem after I used your exercise.
All of this WITHOUT food treats.
Even the "non-physical" praise was foreign to me, but I see why it's a good idea. I can honestly tell that this dog is more in tune with me and what I want him to do and how our relationship should work.
Just wanted to say Thanks, and I may need your help on a few more issues as they arise, like the border training.
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Did you say border training? NO PROBLEMO!
IT'S DONE JUST LIKE THIS:
> or perhaps have an idea of what is going on? Could be almost anything happened, kinda like what's been goin on right here:
From: Momi...@webtv.net (misty) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:29:09 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?
Beth wrote:
> So, jerry's techniques didnt' work for Peach? Never had a chance to try them on her... I was still using the e-fence and chains to keep her in the yard.
The suggestions I received here to keep Peach home were: build a fence... wasn't going to happen.. we plan on putting a modular home here within the next few years... put more fence at the top of the pen I used so both dogs could play bitey face w/o tangling, and similar suggestions.
Jerry was the only one to mention border training... but he was kook supreme ;-P So I ignored him... no killfiles with webtv.. at that time Jerry had his own troll, somewhat like Candace, so the group was not very conducive to learning anything.
At one point I even b*tched about Jerry.
By the time I tried out Jerry's manual Peach had already ran away.
Not very good at the google groups search but you'll find my first post at "runaway dog message 30" within that thread is mention of the dogs taking off and being gone for 2 days. I stopped posting for a bit... my middle boy was devastated that his dog was gone... Zelda came home but not her mom.
The next few posts from me were ones about/to Jerry.
Then Jerry made the WETM accessible for webbes, I put it in my e-mail (no storage otherwise on webby unless you put stuff on a webpage) and read it, read it and read it.
Once I understood what the concept was, I implemented it on Zelda. It worked and I now have a great housedog!
I only regret that my own distrust of Jerry caused me to lose another wonderful dog. Peach was an absolute gem with little kids. I and my boys still miss her. Sometimes I still look to see if she came home when we get back from trips. Maybe Peach would still have ran away... I don't know and never will....
~misty
From: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:16:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?
Peach would be there sittin pretty had our pals not given you a bum steer cause they're EMBARRASSED and AFRAID of losing their careers and reputations.... Jerry.
Stick around, we're just startin to have FUN learning and sharing...J;~)
"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message news 16990-3CAB1F8...@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...
I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her loss.
I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home.
Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard.
Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern became how to keep them from running off for days on end.
I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g> A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all the time.
IOW a great companion and friend.
Thanks Jerry!
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misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.
Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come back in the yard and would run for days.
The last time, Peach didn't come back home.
I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.
She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around the yard.
I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence then you need to train your dog.
I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again.
The price was too high:-( ~misty
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Hi Cathy! Yes I used The Wits End Method to train my girl, Zelda. You can check the archives and see I'm a real person.. I post in misc.kids.breastfeeding, alt.cats rec.pets.cats.annecdotes( not lately, my kitty died) rec.pets.dogs.behavior rec.pets.birds and a ton of webtv firewalled ngs.
Zelda and her mom, Peach (RB) both loved to run the neighborhood with my neighbors 2 male dogs. An e-fence couldn't keep them home, chains pulled up and Peach could jump/climb a 5 ft. fence.
I wrote in here for advice and felt like Jerry had jumped down my throat. Upon re-reading his post to me..well..it hit home hard that I was being abusive to my dog.
The thought of shocking my dog ever again makes me want to puke.
Like I've said before... I might not like the way Jerry treats some of the other posters but he gave me ( for _free_) a way to teach myself and my dog.
I can let Zelda outside and not worry that a potty break will mean she'll be gone for 2 days or, worse yet, not ever come home...like her mom.
Zelda stopped chewing everything in sight once I started applying Jerry's methods. One time of "bad slipper!" and she never chewed another one up :-D
I don't post here a lot because I don't ave any problems needing solved. I do join in occasionally or post informative lnks. I just feel that my limited experience precludes me from jumping in every thread <shrug> but I do read all of them.
If you want my phone number, e-mail me. We would have to set up a time because I'm on the webbie a lot and we only have 1 phone line.
~misty
From: "LESPERANCE/DEAKIN" <madea...@total.net> Date: 1999/10/06 Subject: Re: Separation Anxiety
Well Jerry, I have to hand it to you. It worked!
Our dog was very well behaved until I had to go on the road for my work this summer. I was gone twice for 10 long days each time. Although there were still people home, I am the "primary care-giver" to my dog, so he became destructive (shoes, books, rugs, papers etc)
We have a crate, but I believe it is too small for him now - he is a cross golden/gsd and when he sits or stands he cannot hold his head up as the top is too low, so I didn't want to crate him while I went to work for sometimes 8 hours.
Anyway, I decided to try your method with the toy.
I would find a toy, tell it to be good and place it in his crate. After just 3 days, there was no more destruction in the house - even when daughter or hubby forgot to put their shoes away! Now the toy stays in the crate all day, and he even crawls in to be with the "good toy" when I leave.
He seems quite proud when we come home.
I have not tried the can thing - don't quite understand that, so I think my dog may be confused too!
Marcie (Winslow's mom)
> Many thanks, You're welcome.
> Mark But THAT AIN'T ALL, Mark:
"melisande" <melisand...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I haven't quite finished reading the free chapter on > your website, It's moore than a chapter, it's a comprehensive, total, complete, gestalt method to train all animals to any level you desire.
> but it already worked miracles with our three dogs. Excellent.
> The barking at the door has diminished so much > that, well, frankly, we're stunned. My methods work faster than any others, anywhere at any price, including the thirty five level of medical grade static like stimulation devices and pronged spiked pinch choke collars our "experts" here love so much.
> We were sort of on the same page with you to begin > with (no crates, no choke chains). Good. Crates aren't inherently bad, only the way they're misused.
> A lot of what you say reminds of my dad's techniques > (he's an 84 year old dog lover,one of those about whom > people say, "dogs really like him." He's > never had a badly behaved dog. Good. I've got a lot in common with folks who are gentle and treat animals kindly.
> We'd never heard of the noise emphasis, You mean the sound distraction and praise techniques.
> but the overall plan makes great sense. Yes, one of my students Paul B wrote an excellent post recently I'll include it at the bottom. It'll explain HOWE the distraction and praise process works from his POV as an experience handler using my methods.
> I did have a question. The hardest part for us to > implement is the verbal praise only. Why? That should be spontaneous and in association with every glance towards you and every thought.
> It's so hard not to pet and stroke the dog (especially > our seven month old). Oh. Pattng is O.K., only not in conjunction with a thought or command, as it will interrupt the thought process and may lock the dog's thoughts on an inappropriate idea.
> Can you give me the rationale behind that? It's called positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex. Like if we're walking our dog and want to prevent him from interacting with another dog, and we pull back on the collar, that often triggers the dog to go out of control.
As long as there's contact on the collar, the dog will continue his original thoughts about interacting with the passerby. Then because the dog is out of control, the handler needs to further force restraint, making communication with the dog's MIND, impossible.
> It will help me modify my own behavior. Any time your dog is close enough to be patted is fine to pat him, as long as we're not working with a command or thought we want him to process.
> Anyway, your approach is amazing. Yes, it's caused quite a stir here. If my methods are as effective and fast and safe as I claim and my students confirm, that pretty much means that all of my critics are DEAD WRONG, and all's that's left for me to do is shovel some dirt over them over and let 'em push up daisies.
> Melisande ==========================================
From: Paul Bousie To: The Puppy Wizard Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: Geday.
Hey J,
I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the only advice worth reading.
The problem with your method J is that I can't answer the questions on the NG no more, people are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm now really understanding that they are all result orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not realising they create a new one as they deal with the last.
I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they don't even realise the errors of thier ways and they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority, after all if everyone says thats the way then it must be. I've finally realised people don't want to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog, they want a little puppet that sits and stays and downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so they think, then when the dog acts like a dog they come squealing to the NG asking how to stop the dog being a dog.
I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind that I think demonstrates the way we approach dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents something about the dog, all of them create what a dog is.
The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you can, problem is each one you stamp out another takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise, but thats the traditional way.
Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog, that's what we get hold of with all the little circles inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.
I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they are critising something they don't even understand or even have
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