Pet Forum / Miscellaneous / Animal Health / February 2006

HOWEDY tommy sorenson aka joey finnochiario aka gentleman
jack morrison aka DOGMAN,

"Handsome Jack Morrison"
<handsomejackmorrison@thedetonatorearthlink.net>
wrote in message news:emksu1hflg9lvtndj2ka680l3jamhnnvf5@4ax.com...

Only liars dog abusers cowards and active acute chronic
long term incurable mental cases like yourself post here
abHOWETS tommy. REMEMBER?

ONLY LIARS DOG ABUSERS COWARDS and ACTIVE
ACUTE CHRONIC LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL
CASES like yourself post here abHOWETS, REMEMBER
tommy?

Perhaps The Amazing Puppy Wizard is REALLY SATAN?

You mean like HOWE Nevyn and Crystal and Elaine
and several other 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual Students have been doin,
tommy?:

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: hi

   Hi Jerry,

Starr says hi, she's enjoying new freedom, iv been working her
off lead in my yard she comes every time. She got a little
spooked today I don't really know why but she wanted to go
inside, anyway when I asked her to come her attitude changed
as she took up her position in front of me.

Then she was easy to get under control.

Oh and with winter we're having let me tell you its great to have
a dog that doesn't pull on the lead anymore. With all this ice id
hate being dragged around.

Oh and i meant to tell you and never got around to it, i was able
to rescue a lost, fear/agressive dog from running all over the street
using the methods which are now almost second nature to me.

With body language, praise and distraction i got a dog that i
thought might try to bite me sitting happily at my side and
wanting to be pet and played with while we waited for the
dog officer to take him to the shelter so it all worked out well:-)
                               bye bye for now, crystal

*(Crystal volunteers at the shelter.)

HOWEDY Group,

Here some SUCCESS STORIES ive had
using JERRY'S MANUAL

1) My dogz, two bitches - Vicious, barking, aggressive,
pulled on leash, wanted to kill any dogs they saw, fought
between each other. TWO WEEKS using Jerry's manual,
they were calm, friends, my companions.

2) ADDED A BEAGLE PUPPY (male) to my "PACK", the
girls had -NO PROBLEMS- with him from the moment I
dropped him by their noses.

3) My FRIENDS dogs  2 MALES barking and jumping
at the fence all night 3 DAYS TRAINING WITH JERRY'S
MANUAL they were CALMED AND HAVEN'T BARKED
ONCE!

Added a NEW MALE DOG (2 yrs old) AND
WELCOMED HIM WITH NO WUCKAS !

4) POODLE that ATE food from the KITCHEN BENCH -
lock him in a box? NO! USE JERRYS MANUAL! 4 DAYS
AND HES NEVER DONE IT SINCE!

5) ABUSED DOGS AT THE SHELTER I WORK AT -
HAD TO BE FED WITH A BUCKET ON  A STICK -
ONE WEEK ON JERRYS MANUAL, THE SUPERVISOR
TOLD ME TO PUT THEM IN THE PUBLIC KENNELS
FOR SALE !

Quite amazing to - I thought they were just dull coloured
dogs, but after I had removed the fear and anxiety their
hairs coloured up amazingly.

6) STAFFY FEMALE who would NOT DROP HER
BALL! She carried it around all day and night - 3
DAYS on jerrys MANUAL and she now DROPS
it when u ASK her to!

BWHWHAHAHAHAAHA !!!!

Nevyn

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Nevyn writes:

Jerry I cannot even begin to tell you the success
I've had with your training manual! My two mutts
have gone from out-of-control psychos to obedient
well behaved companions within a matter of weeks!

AND My friends have seen the success and have
asked me to work on their dogs!

I was working with a 5 month old Ridgeback female
today and she was being an angel after like an hour
of working with her!

It is AMAZING!!

I pity those fools who take their dogs to classes
where the "Trainers" abuse their dogs! (do they
have a degree? A masters? a Phd? by the way?

NO they are average joes off the street who think
they know how to train dogs!)

Once again, Jerry, you are a genius!

NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents
dogs, Dusty and Snoopy, and my friends pup, Jazz.

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Elaine McClung, Animal Commissioner Brevard Co. FL,
President of Pet Rescue writes: Sep 9,  2000

"I ordered from Jerry a long time ago.. He was helpful and
the order was filled promptly. Yes, Doggie Do Right does
indeed exist.

I "had" a very aggressive female Pit.. She was showing
aggression not only towards Dok, Rhodesian Ridgeback,
but our cats and even us.

She now plays with Dok, even to the point of allowing him
to take a toy or bone from her. She no longer shows any
aggression towards us. She is showing some aggression
towards the cats but that is down to a warning growl.

It is not just my opinion that all this aggression existed
before Doggie Do Right as we were advised by three vets
to euthanize her.

I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it
has helped my dogs and cats.  I do think your product is a
valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior
problems.

I am in Feral CatNetwork (we spay and neuter approximately
100 feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC
dog obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club,
president of Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for
Care and Welfare of Animals (on the board are: county
commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC dog club, CFA cat
club, assistant County manager, head of animal control,
director of two different shelters, etc.).

Thanks, Elaine

Hi Jerry,

I received email from Mark Shaw on 10/6 which I just read today.
Sorry I didn't have time to get to it sooner. We have had a lot
going on in our area concerning animals. We formed a new Task
Force to address spay/neuter, pet overpopulation and animal
abuse. I needed to do a lot of research before the first meeting and
time was just not available for anything else.

Anyway the letter went on to say that we are in collusion, I tried
to defraud him, and have sent none of the materials that he has
asked for although he has yet to furnish the P.O. Box number that
he wanted them sent to in the first place. He goes on to state that
I am no longer eligible for the "fictions reward." All of this is in
answer to postings that prove I was "sharing" his email with you
which in his opinion was a breach of good manners. His email only
had terms and conditions of the reward which I would consider
"public information."

Be that as it may, I would like to state that you had my permission
to post any email I have sent you regarding DDR including this
email.

I'm very sorry that you have to put up with this type of situation
from someone that obviously never intended to make good on his
reward offer in the first place.

I had a call from a friend of mine with a very aggressive cat. I
have loaned her my DDR for a few weeks to see if it will calm JR
down. I will let you know the results. She goes to the same holistic
vet that I go to and he is also interested.

In case Mark does post to the list again I would like to say that I
do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it has helped
my dogs and cats. I have entirely too much to do, to worry about his
opinions or reward.

The only reason I was willing to apply for the reward was on your
behalf as I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with
aggression and other behavior problems.

I am in Feral Cat Network (we spay and neuter approximately 100
feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC dog
obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club, president of
Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for Care and Welfare of
Animals (on the board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from
AKC dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County manager, head of
animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.).

I listed these not to be on an ego trip but to let Mark know that I
am involved with animals and have very little time to play games
with him also I would not recommend your product if I did not
believe in it.

Please feel free to post this email as it has no copyright on it as
did Mark Shaw's last email to me.

Take care Jerry and don't let the Mark's of the world get you down.

Elaine

Thank you, Elaine. I have been trying to educate the mark's of this
world, with some occasional successes. I guess that's variable
reinforcement?

Yours, Jerry.

"Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:3c317fe4.0302091951.7215c6f7@posting.google.com...

I have posted about my dog Sunshine before who was aggressive
to all people and dogs until I found and used the Wits End
Training methods.

He is now great--can go any where and he is fine with people
and dog even when they get in his face on a flexi lead!  He
still had problem with stress that was making him scratch him
self raw in places--he nose has had a sore for the last month.

We started using the Doggy Do Right and his nose was almost
healed when the machine went off.  The next day he was scratching
and opened the sore on his nose again.

Twelve hours after I turned it back on he quit scratching and
his nose is healing again. The machine does work.

I have two barking dogs behind me that have reduced their barking
a lot. In fact when we were out walking one them came over to visit
and the owner did not notice he was gone since he did not bark at
us as he usually did.  The Wits End Training Method works, the
problems I have had are the result I having trouble breaking my
old patterns.

My dog got it fast but kept getting confused when I had
trouble getting the commands together.  I always thought I
used praise but I really did not until I started using the
Wits End Method of sound and praise. In the past it took a lot
of treats to get him to do something--now I have been able to
teach him several things like pull the laundy basket with just
praise. He really likes it better I think and does not seem to
miss the treats for jobs.

If you have problem with your dog try the Wits End Method--
it is free and it works and it improves your relationship.

So much of dog training is force and using pain to get a dog
to do something that a method that works and does not rely on
pain, force, or "corrections" is wonderful for both owner and
dog.

Don't think something that is free can not be good because I
have spent more hours and more thousands of dollars than I
though possible in the three years with Sunshine and nothing
helped until I found the Wits End Method of sound and praise.

==================================

You mean tougher than CURING ALL temperament
and behavior problems NEARLY INSTANTLY after
ALL OTHER METHODS have FAILED, tommy?:

       "Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
       news:

       I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
       dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
       I do not know what started the problem but he came
       aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
       snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
       and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
       ad I took him with me everywhere.

       At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
       Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
       clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
       it was not working on his aggression problem.

       I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
       trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
       They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
       and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
       suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
       working as he was becoming more aggressive.

       I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
       away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
       on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
       use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

       I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
       ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
       LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
       University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
       had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
       gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
       have the people stop until he could get in control using
       treats, and work on clicker training.

       At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
       the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
       would not come when I called him and would run away when
       I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
       neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
       hasn't trained her dog"

       I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
       were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
       were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
       said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
       say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
       responsible for him."

       *(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
       DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

       As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
       going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
       Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
       Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
       He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
       not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

       The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
       I had been working for 18 months!

       Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
       from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
       I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
       blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
       can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

       I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
       -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
       looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
       on by.

       When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
       me like "you must be out of your mind"

       The results can make a believer!!!

       Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
       Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
       in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

       He just seemed to not notice any one.

       When people talked to him or ask his name he would
       look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

       I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
       enjoy life out in public.

       If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
       was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
       Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
       toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

       My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
       dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
       out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

       I know most people would have given up on him a long time
       ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
       but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

       I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

       ================================

       From: Linda Daniel
       To: Jerry Howe
       Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
       Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

       Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
       to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
       save so many lives.  I know at times I was so frustrated I
       thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
       have but many people would have.  The world just does not
       know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
       solve problems.

       We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
       -just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
       you could meet us would be great.  I drive so I would be
       happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

       We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
       right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
       scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
       would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
       to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

       He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
       those on rollerblades!  I have always used a gentle leader
       in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
       grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

       Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
       stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose.  He never
       pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
       a hard time getting him going--at times  I think he could
       smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

       I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

       I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
       walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
       a problem with other people and dogs.

       I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
       to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
       around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
       treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
       coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
       and not move until we backed away-

       - can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
       until I get his attention with treats.

       They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
       but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
       him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
       sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
       to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
       heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

                   ----------------------------------

Sorry tommy, it's OVER.

You're blowin smoke up your own arse NHOWE, tommy.

You mean like HOWE you heelp dogs, tommy?

Here's HOWE COME laura KILLED her own DEAD DOG Chewie:

From: Laura Arlov (l...@wordfixers.no)
Subject: Re: Chewie bit my husband !

Date: 1999/01/20

Well, we're doing as you say Dogman,
and I'll keep you all posted.

"Feisty, Humorous, Brave, Curious And
Playful. Full Of "Joie de Vivre," And DEAD

        ------------------

Subject: < BEFORE ->  "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
                                     No Good Charlatan,"

< AFTER ->  "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
                     A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
                     Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
                     Dog Lovers.

                     'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
                     A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.

Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?

Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman

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<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.

Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names.  Naive is thinking that dilettante  dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey  (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools?  I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===========
Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy,
"you insipid piece of cow dung!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h...@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been
using Jerry's methods with our dog.  We
had the same problem as the original poster
has with Buzz.

One day working with the family pack
exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with
hubby and daughter instead of needing me
to reassure her or even refusing to go with
anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative
things you might hear about Jerry & Wits'
End here, to try the method and *judge the
results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in...
always comes when called, not chewing stuff
even if we leave it laying around, "re"housebroken
after long shelter stay, walks perfectly on leash,
doesn't try to steal food from our plates or beg...
probably a few more things I'm forgetting to
mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed.  When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive
and nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months.

They (most of them) wanted to give up and kill
her  Now she's gained confidence and trust with
us.  Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes).  She barked!  Big deal, she barked
just once when she heard the front door.  Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry
or that the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources.

In my opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and
leaves out the bad.

Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know
Jerry personally. I've emailed him and instant
messaged him.  I have not bought a "Doggy
Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

-----

M.
--
Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: m...@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

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You mean like your pal racetrack silly, tommy?:
"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness," racetrack silly.

"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.  I volunteered
as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
unwanted animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
to that problem," Mustang Sally.

Or did you mean like your pal lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn, tommy?:

 lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
 For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
 pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it.
 When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
 Lynn K.

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

  "I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
 one shelter.)  But their ability to set their own
 schedules and duties causes a great deal of
 scheduling overhead.

 And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
 volunteers get the meaningful experience that
 they work for.

  Someone has to be responsible for that
  Volunteer Program, and it is best done
  by a non-volunteer."

  Lynn K.

 "I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
 every adoptable dog on intake.  I frankly felt that the
 effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
 older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.

 Should I have refused to groom them?

  Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
 had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."

 Lynn K.

"You Lying Sack Of Dung. When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20

ginge...@my-deja.com wrote:

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

Or did you mean like her PARTNER IN RESCUE:

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

Or did you mean like your pal tara o. aka tee
from Boxer Rescue of N.C., tommy?:

From: "Tara O." <tara29...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:14:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Tara, what's happening with Summer?

Thanks for thinking about us Marie and Paulette.
Summer went to the bridge this evening unfortunately.

Her sudden aggression grew more consistent and also
turned on one adult although no injuries were sustained.
I had made an appointment for Thursday to have a thyroid
panel drawn and sent off to see if her aggression could've
been attributable to low thyroid levels.  I'd spoken with
professional behaviorists, two vets, and dozens of Boxer
breeders, trainers & owners.  No one thought that thyroid
was the cause considering that she had no other symptoms.

I found that alot of Boxer owners have dogs with thyroid
problems and who are on medication.  The ones that became
aggressive did not get better with medication unfortunately.

Also, there are no studies that conclusively show that
aggression is definitely related to thyroid disorders.
All her other bloodwork came back normal so it seemed
to be a temperament problem.

Wednesday night, Amie knelt down to kiss Summer goodnight,
as always, and Summer growled at her.  She also tried to
go after my brother-in-law on Monday.  I made the extremely
tough decision to send her to the bridge without waiting to
test for thyroid.  If she could growl at Amie then I no longer
had faith that this was just a fluke.  I've also come to find
out that quite a few Boxers have suddenly turned aggressive
between the ages of 12-24 months of age.

Some of the owners of these dogs had private lifestyles
that allowed them to manage the dog's behavior since
visitors are infrequent.  In those cases, behaviorists,
rofessional trainers, and medication have been tried but
have not worked.  The other owners whose dogs turned were
like me in that there were children around and frequent
visitors in the home.  They also made the same choice I did.

I'm sure Jerry will go to town with this news.  I've been
grappling with this decision since she turned on those 2
children a few weekends ago.  I had hopes that something
would prove to be medically wrong with her, something that
when treated, would make this behavior disappear.  When she
turned on my brother-in-law Monday night I began to lose what
little hope I had left.  When she growled at Amie two nights
ago I made the decision to put her down vs. taking chances
with the lives and safety of children.

I took Summer to work with me today so that we could spend the
time together.  I took her to the vet, feeding her cheddar cubes
while we waited.  We played and I laughed and tried very hard not
to show any anxiety or worry because I wanted her to be happy.
Just before it was time for the injection, I fed her a Milky Way
bar because she's always been a chocoholic.  When the time came,
I held her in my arms and sang 'you are my sunshine' to her while
stroking her head.

I've never loved any dog half as much as I loved Summer.  She
came in second only to Amie in my heart.  This was honestly the
absolute hardest thing I've ever done and wish it on no one.
Hopefully Summer has the wings and halo I know she deserves.
--
Tara O.

From: "Tara O." <tara29...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:55:53 -0500
Subject: Update

I wanted to thank all of you again for your input.
This boy's name was Ty, short for Tyson by the way.

I sent him to the bridge yesterday.

I wasn't going to although I also wasn't sure I would
ever adopt him out but I wanted to give him the chance
and I did NOT want to send another dog to the bridge.

Two days ago when I came home from work, my house was
destroyed, there were 18 piles of poop, the countertop
contents were on the floor and Ty was standing there
eating that day's dinner.

The mess, while not pleasant to clean up wasn't a problem
but I did learn that he could escape the wire crate I had
him in by raising enough hell in it.

That was the first day he'd been placed between two other
dogs and not kept in my office space. Fancy was visibly
shaken and Pebbles (Min. Dach.) was huddled in the far back
corner of her crate which was moved about 3' from where it
had been.

I think he had intimidated my dogs but luckily they were
crated.  This made me wonder more about my decision to keep
him in my home.  Had any or all of my pets not been crated,
I may have come home to more than a cleaning problem.

Still though, I had his HW treatment scheduled for yesterday
afternoon and I just couldn't bring myself to change the reason
for the appointment.

When I went home yesterday at noon to let the dogs out I
had a big problem. Ty was still crated (I put him back in
the plastic crate) luckily.

I put my 3 plus my deaf foster out back then took Ty out
front.  We came back in and went to the kitchen so he could
get some water.  He saw the other 4 dogs outback although
they didn't see him.  He was fine and relaxed then started
lapping up water.

Suddenly and with no provocation, he bolted towards the
french doors and hit them so hard that he broke them open.
He was almost off the deck before I regained my footing
enough to stop him.  The only reason I was able to stop
him was due to my never letting go of his leash but he
managed to catch me totally by surprise and I'm the one
who knew better than to trust his actions.

I was able to get him back in and pull the door back
before the deafie came lunging from the other side.
I let  my guard down for just a few seconds and that's
what happened.  Had I not had his leash still in hand,
he would've gotten to my dogs for sure.

I still have no idea what made him do that because he
wasn't watching them and they weren't watching him so
there was no provocation except their mere existence.

We went to the vet and I told them that I was sending
him to the bridge. While we waited outside (he couldn't
be trusted inside due to other dogs in the waiting room)
he was so wonderful and loving.

He sat next to me and we just played for a bit.  Twice I
got in the car with him to leave because he was just so
beautiful and wonderful with me and the other people that
he met that I had a really hard time doing what I did.

At least he went down in my arms while I talked to him
rather than going alone in a shelter.  Things like this
are enough to make a person want to quit. (Quit shelter/
rescue/foster care.)
--
Tara O.

Yeah. LIKE THIS:

From: "Tara O." <tara29...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 20:28:55 -0400
Local: Fri, Sep 7 2001 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: Escape artist Dog

Jerry, couldn't you offer her sincere advice rather than
using her post a your own personal attack referendum?  She
doesn't know any of us here so 99% of your post was lost on
her.

You put everybody else down, people who DO offer advice,
yet you offer very little yourself.  You wonder why so many
people have you killfiled and call you a troll.  Its behavior
like this, personal attacks on other ng members, with no advice
to the actual poster.

The rest of us provide FREE, on the spot, advice.  You offer
a link to a website where someone has to place an order for
your manual then wait for it to be sent to them.  If your
manual is free, then why not just divulge your expertise on
the ng when responding to posts?
--
Tara O.
Amie & Summer

       <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
       Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:12:11
       GMT Local: Thurs, Oct 7 2004 10:12 am

       Subject: "I'm Shocked That I Shocked" tara o. aka tee,
       NC Boxer Rescue Abuse

       HOWEDY People

       Here's WON of HOWER MENTAL CASES
       hurtin dogs and lying abHOWET it again.

       "I'm shocked that I shocked"

       "Tara O." <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
       news:bh9f81$vrac2$1@ID-92443.news.uni-berlin.de...

       > Due to someone reprimanding Jar-Jar & the word
       > "rescue" in the post, I decided to read down and see
       > what he was spewing now. I was able to learn that
       > besides choking, pinching, crating, abusing and
       > murdering my dog, I also shocked her. I must be
       > suffering from amnesia.

       > Can someone point me to a post where I said
       > I shocked my dog, or any dog, or that I even
       > know *how* to use an e-collar....assuming I had one
       > which must have been stolen at the same time I lost
       > my memory.

       > One would think Jerry would be happy with the
       > "murder" part and all my other training sins but
       > evidently not.
       > --
       > Tara

       HOWEDY tara o.,

       You didn't HURT INTIMIDATE and MURFDER
        your own DEAD DOG Summer:

       Date: 2003-04-28 18:09:04 PST

       > "Tara O." wrote:

       > > Labs are a breed that are normally trained for
       > > field work with ear pinches, e-collars and other
       > > forms of physical interaction without making them
       > > fearful or aggressive.

       ==============

       From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com)
       Subject: Re: Dane hyper when passing other dogs
       Date: 2001-04-21 12:07:54 PST

       I think its pertinent to mention that I've never had
       any dogs who exhibited signs of aggression or were in
       any way, shape, or form resistent to whatever
       "training" I did with them.

       I would not feel comfortable relying on my past
       experience or a book to train a dog to stop biting,
       snapping or growling.
       --
       Tara O.

      ===================

       From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com)
       Subject: Re: Canine Behaviors For Dummies
       Date: 2001-06-11 19:42:23 PST

       "joshua" <jos...@ycsi.net> wrote in message
       news:9g3uoi$sc7$0@63.90.193.133...

       > I cant seem to understand why people believe prong
       > collars are cruel and inhumane. They do nothing more
       > than pinch, getting the attention of the animal.

       > Choke collars, on the other hand, do permanent
       > damage. They bruise the esophagus.

       > Shock collars will eventually destroy nerve endings,
       > much the same as electric fencing.

       Joshua, you have just reopened a can of worms
       that can quickly cause infestation here lol
       --
       Tara O.

       ==============

       From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com)
       Subject: Re: jerry howe
       Date: 2001-04-04 11:58:06 PST

       > People are tired of being abused and insulted simply
       > for saying they use a prong collar, or a choke
       > collar, or an e-collar, or a crate, etc. If you want
       > to LEARN more about dog training and dog behavior,
       > then listen to what they have to say, too.

       "I've never not listened to what people say here.
       I use a crate, am about to begin with a choke collar,
       I'm not the bad guy here." tara o.

       ======================

You mean LIKE THIS, tommy?:

HOWEDY tara o. aka tee,

Tee wrote:

IT AIN'T GONNA MAKE YOU SMART, tara o. aka tee.

Oh goody! You DID get WIZE to the "collar conditioning".
CuriHOWES AIN'T IT, that NOWON HERE HAS EVER MENTIONED
collar conditioning OTHER THAN The Amazing Puppy Wizard
<{); ~ ) >, and YOU DON'T READ HIS POSTS...

That's TODAY! HURRAY!

Ahhh.

Oh. GOOD IDEA! THAT'LL WIZE HIM UP TO THE COLLAR.

BWEEEEEEEEEAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

You mean, till you BURN him on Monday.

HE WON'T GO NEAR THEM WHILE YOU'RE WATCHIN so YOU
WON'T BE ABLE TO BURN HIM, tara o. aka tee.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAA!!!

You mean a SHOCK, tara o. aka tee. Let's not get TOO technical.

You mean with the collar that's been "toning" him for a couple days.

THE RESULT OF YOU HURTIN HIM.

Dogs EAT STUFF when they're anXXXIHOWES
and INSECURE, JUST LIKE HOWE YOU DO, with
your bulemia and STUFF.

REMEMBER?

Ahhh. EXXXCELLENT! We wouldn't want someWON who
DON'T KNOW HOWE to PUPPERLY HURT a dog to mess
IT up by shockin IT a the wrong time.

BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHHAHAAA!!! ALL THE
DOG ABUSERS WHO DON'T POST HERE ABHOWETS nodoGamenedMOORE, eh tara o.
aka
tee?

You certainly DID NOT SEE any "COLLAR CONDITIONING"
advice in The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Archives that
DIDN'T COME FROM The Amazing Puppy Wizard.

You mean PAIN FEAR and INTIMDIATION.

Well tara o. aka tee, the FIX AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN
on accHOWENT of as you REPRESS ANXXXIHOWESNESS
BEHAVIORS those behaviors CHANGE to OTHER, often
worse, seemingly UNRELATED behaviors, like attackin
innocent critters and havin halucinations and OCD
behaviors.

HOWE COME you didn't give THIS OPPORTUNITY to
your own DEAD DOG Summer pryor to MURDERIN her?

You mean HURTIN him.

And THAT'S HOWE COME you're BOXER RESCUE of NC.

                  ------------------

BET YOUR LIFE ON IT, tommy. Hey tommy? When
are you gonna SHOWE US YOUR DOGS, eh???

NO PROBLEMO, tommy. DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST
HERE abHOWETS, tommy. DECENT PEOPLE read a couple
of posts and STUDY their own FREE COPY of The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual and write in sayin:

"Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've
been a blessing to all of us," AIMEE

From: JesuMaria@
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual

+JMJFCA

Thanks, Jerry!  All pages were received and
downloaded without any problems!

God bless you!  Please know that you will be
remembered in all prayers and sacrifices, and
daily before the Most Blessed Sacrament here
in our Chapel.

With many prayers,
Sister Anthony Marie

"Anthony Testa" <testa52...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c603fe9c.0203260607.77c283ce@posting.google.com...
 Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
 group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
 many people are so dang blind or ignorant.

 You just keep plugging away at what you do,
 because you my friend are a life saver!!!

 Anytime you need someone to speak about the results
 of your product, you have my number. We would gladly
 talk to them.

 Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...

 Anthony & Linda Testa
 Jacksonville, Florida

"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.

            "Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
                   even tho it's a hopeless task,
                        in this system of things.
                  As long as man is ruling man,
             there will be animals (and humans!)
                      abused and neglected. :-(
                        Your student," Juanita.

"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

==============================

From: Chris Williams (k9ap...@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

      Engrossing account, Anthony.  Our best to
Angel and your family.

      A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

      She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.

============================

You mean LIKE THIS, tommy?:

"Ted Rumple" <rumplem...@kalbar.net> wrote in message
news:30aa784b.0309290208.135e9ab1@posting.google.com...

Jerry, I am forever in your debt. The system you have
created for training dogs is absolutely amazing!

I can't wait until the new version is available for human
children!

Thank you for your service to humanity!

             ---------------------

Or did you mean MOORE like THIS, tommy?:

Jeremy, a pet professional writes:

"A customer recently purchased a Shiba Inu and I suspect
she may be in for a wild ride.  This is a breed that I suspect
may respond particularly well to mutual respect style training.

The alpha complex (as I now call it) is likely to
really provoke the dog's naturally competitive nature.

Thanks 1000 times for opening my eyes and don't let
those a.sholes get you down.  I can't be the only person
that sees the sense in your methods. I'm in Windsor,
Ontario, Canada and pass your info to anyone it might
help" Thanks, Jeremy.

================

From: Becky (Becky...@new.rr.com)
Subject: Re: Crate Anxiety
Date: 2002-04-04 12:56:23 PST

Try Jerry Howe's training manual and check out his Doggy
Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo
Or Two Did Too) machine....it is for this.

Please do not listen to the others in here that don't like
him or his methods, they have never tried them....I  have
and it works!!!!

I broke my dog from nipping almost 100% in 1 day and
she usually does this SEVERAL times a day and actually
makes my kids bleed!

Try it or contact him!  The manual is at the above website
also, and it is free!

Becky
===========

From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders.  I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now.  It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that.  Keep up the good work!

Hoku

==================

"Hoku Beltz" <h...@rsphawaii.com> wrote in message
news:SN2k9.45447$V7.10868114@twister.socal.rr.com...
Aloha Sunny,

Just follow the training program to the letter, no
matter how insignificant some of the step seem
to be and your pupy will be a very well behaved
dog in a few days.

I would seriously consider backing out of the
training classes as they will conflict with the
Wit's End principles.

I went the training route first, and still had
problems until I found Wits' End.  Now I
have two "new and improved" dogs.

You won't be dissapointed if you follow the program.

Good luck,

Hoku

==================

Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben

===================

Dave Cohen <coh...@total.net writes:
Re: Barking Deterrants Needed...

Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry
and have spoken with him briefly once by email.

I have no stake or interest in the success of  his
business.  I simply want to thank him publicly for
one of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety.

I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed
animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but
I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it.
Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked!

I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry!

===================
From: <N>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -

Re: Am I expecting to much

Hi Jerry,

When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
for daughter's new  pup, I told you that I had an older
Chessie.  I rescued him at 9 years old and have had him
for 3 years.

It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him.

Where I used to say "come" and then say "good boy" when
he obeyed, I have reversed it with a "good boy" first.

It really does work.  He was very confused at first,
wondering what he had done to get the praise.  But it
really gets the attention and distracts him from whatever
he may have going through his brain when he hears it.

Dogs are funny, but people are too.  Can't wait to get
the Doggy do Right, etc.

Thanks,
N

From: <n>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 03, 20
03 7:24 PM
Subject: Order Status

Hi,
My daughter's dog is doing great with your lessons.
How long before the Doggy-do-Right, etc. will be shipped.

Thanks,
N

"Greg M. Silverman" gmsNOS...@no.umn.edu
wrote in message

Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever your alias
of the day is, have to say that our dog heels much
better than she did. This is after reading and
implementing the bit in your "Wits End" treatise.

And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they all?).
Cheers! Greg--

"Jerome Bigge" <jbi...@novagate.net> wrote in message
news:v3ba0ucam1kr4moca4v7aaio1tv2b5kje3@4ax.com...

I've read over Jerry Howe's "Wit's End
Dog Training Manual" now several times.
And while everyone will get something a
bit different from it, I found that his "hot &
cold" exercise (first part of manual) is in
my opinion the "key" to the entire thing.

Once you have taught your dog (puppy)
to keep an "eye on you", then the rest of
its training (come, etc) becomes much
easier.

Additionally Jerry does pointout "why" dogs
do the things that they do.

So even if you don't like Jerry's
posts, you might like to download his
manual (it's free, after all!) and give it
a look over.

You might learn something.

My Boston Terrier puppy would chew up the newspaper
until I used the techniques in Jerry Howe's manual to
train her not to do it.  Simple distraction and praise.
You may not agree with all he says, but the manual
is well worth reading even if you don't use all of it.

Jerome Bigge
NRA Life Member
Supporter of National Health Insurance
CompTIA A Certified Computer Technician
Author of the "Warlady" & "Wartime" series.
Download at "http://members.tripod.com/~jbigge"

You mean "Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug
Cowards And Active Acute Chronic Long Term
Incurable MENTAL CASES," don't you, tommy <{) ; ~ ) >

INDEEDY. LIKE THIS:

"windswept" <windsw...@asarian-host.net> wrote in message
 news:4bc642c.e0005ea557f52a21c6d4b364f1@asarian-host.net...

They're QUOTES. The full texts are in The Puppy Wizard's Archives.

 > depicted is troubling.

Those are HOWER DOG LOVERS... the EXXXPERTS who
 WARN folks to KILLFILE The Puppy Wizard cause you can't
 TRAIN dogs withHOWET REWARDS and CONSEQUENCES.

read.

They HURT and KILL dogs and "breed ETHICKALLY" while
KILLING DOGS in "shelters" cause there's "TOO MANY DOGS."

Here's the liars, dog abusers, cowards and active acute
chronic long term incurable MENTAL CASES  you're
asking for advice:

 I'll be you've never had to put down litters of
 beautiful labrador puppies? If you had did, maybe
 you'd be singing a different tune?

"Actually, have held them for the tech to euth, and
put their bodies in the trash bag and in the freezer
for the trash company to come and dispose of.
No different tune," ~Emily

"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.  I volunteered
as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
unwanted animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
to that problem," Mustang Sally.

  lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
  For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
  pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it.
  When he barks, use the line for a correction.
  - if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.   Lynn K.

lynn kosmakos     (Lithium, Zoloft, bipolar, manic,  depression)
                            will "put down a  biter  as fast as
anyone" yet
                           claims to  be a saintly dog rescuer

Lynn K. wrote:
"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.)  But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.
And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer." Lynn K.

"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake.  I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted  condition.

Should I have refused to groom them?

Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."
Lynn K.

Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob> wrote in message
<news:04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews>...

Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
quotes are true.

In the posts below you take responsibility for
making those calls.

In your post above, you state you do not
make those calls.

Which one is it?

Like kwbrown's DEAD DOG Teena?

Or do you mean like JLS'S DEAD DOG?

Or do you mean like purple pony's DEAD DOG Raggdoll, tommy?

INDEEDY. And NHOWE it's OVER, tommy.

RIGHT!

You mean QUOTED POSTED CASE HISTORY DATA, tommy?

BET YOUR LIFE ON IT, tommy. THAT'S HOWE COME
DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS
nodoGdameneDMOORE. REMEMBER tommy? When's
the last time a person who WASN'T A COMITTED DOG
ABUSER posted a second post here abHOWETS, tommy?

And JOIN the Gang Of Miserable Lyin Dog Abusing
Punk Thug Cowards And Active Acute Chronic Long
Term Incurable Mental Cases, eh tommy? Some of them
have learned to INCLUDE their own POSTED MENTAL
HEELTH CASE HISTORIES on their first post here
abHOWETS to AVOID makin The Amazing Puppy
Wizard have to do the RESEARCH, ain't you noticed
THAT, tommy??? BWEEEEAAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

BET YOUR LIFE ON IT, tommy!

Yeah, like MURDER their dog an GET A NEW WON.

Lucy DONE that already, tommy!

It GOT HER her own 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANT SUCCESS for problems YOU MURDER dogs
abHOWET. REMEMBER tommy???

BET YOUR LIFE ON IT, tommy.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard DON'T GOT TO SEE dogs to
TRAIN them ALL OVER The WHOWEL WILD WORLD
and FOR FREE, to boot, tommy. REMEMBER???

LIKE THIS, tommy:

"JoeTheGuru" <joetheg...@hotmail.com.NOSPAM wrote in message

JERRY SAVE THIS LAD!!!!

or it could be a troll <are you a troll??
do not use it on your dog.....

would you use it on your best friend.....

I have read jerry's book, it seems too easy at first.
however I started to use some of the training out
of it and now.

I have a dog that heels as fast as a collie in a
trial.<great dane X mastiff>

I have a dog that stays and never leaves the spot.

I have a dog that comes when ever I call.

I have a dog that never leaves the yard, never runs away.

I have a dog that stands still to be washed
with the cold hose.

I have a dog that never pulls on
the lead when we walk.

I have a dog that puts up with more abuse then a
dog should from my 2 year old <and loves it

I have a dog that barks at the fence only when some ones there.

I have a dog that would not care less if there is
another dog in the park <only wants to be with and
please me though a lot of this is due to me training
the dog> spending the time with the dog.

jerry's book showed me not to punish the dog. but
just to work with the dog. which I liked the idea of
hence why I tried it. it is easy to become
frustrated with a dog when you are trying to train
them.

I look forward to my next puppy <ban dog> so
I can use the information from jerry's book
and see just how good a dog can get.

the dog I have now was when I picked her up from
the RSPCA. she could not walk on a lead <no idea.
cowered from every noise <and wet her self, messed
in the house at every turn. acted like I was killing her
when I dragged her over to the mess.

this was A 6 month old pup that had been beaten
<2.5 feet to the shoulder. I could of taken her back
however I knew I could bring her back to being to
be a dog.

the dog I have now at 1.5 years <same dog is a dog
to be proud to walk down the street with <3 feet to
the shoulder and still growing.

so well behaved even when people walk passed with
a out of control dog. gentle with my child and trustworthy
< I never have to worry that my dog will bite her, only
have to worry if a stranger comes over to my child.
still that is not a worry, she places herself between my
child and the stranger.

I may be plugging jerry's book, however with the
crap out there it is good to see that someone has
moved forward. looked at a different way to train
dogs. yes he gets into people, and in their face <
you should back off a little jerry however he is
sick of the bashing, choking, shocking, shaking
and everything else. so jerry save this lad from
ruining his dog. later, Joe

                                   =============

Oh, and bye the bye tommy, YOU CAN'T POST HERE
abHOWETS nodoGdameneDMOORE, just like professor
"SCRUFF SHAKE an SCREAM "NO!" into ITS face for
five seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes contemplation
dermer of the Department of  ANAL-ytic Behavior at UofWI:

                      Punishment Deranges Behavior.
        "NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
                                  EXCEPT
                     To DERANGE Behaviors.

Here's professor dermer pryor:

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

    And how do we know this aspect of his
    advice is right?

    Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
    His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

    (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
    few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
    ill-mannered, or just plain ill.­),

    --Marshall

      Marshall Lev Dermer/ Department of Psychology/ University of
       Wisconsin-Milwaukee/ Milwaukee, WI 53201/ der...@uwm.edu
                    http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
       "Life is just too serious to be taken entirely seriousyl!"

From: der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall Dermer) -
Date: 1998/08/28
Subject: Re: Puppy growls and snaps

In article <6s6ea0$8c...@uwm.edu> der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall
Dermer) writes:

"Oops!  I would start by only holing her mouth
shut for say 5 sec.

At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:

   "We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
   Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
   God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
   Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent­,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts ­to
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer

                            "A cheerful heart is good medicine,
                         but a crushed spirit dries up the bones".
                                        Proverbs 17:22

                          Blessed are all who take refuge in HIM.

                       Jerry 21 And unto this people thou shalt say,
                                Thus saith the LORD Of DOG;
                                     Behold, I set before you
                                         The Way Of Life,
                                                  And
                                        The Way Of Death.

                And Disciple Paulie said unto them, Thus shall ye
                say to your master, Thus saith The LORD Of DOG,
                Be not afraid of the words which thou hast heard,
                with which the servants of koehler and university
                trained behaviorists and veterinary malpracticioners
                have blasphemed me.

                                    Disciple Paulie Sez:

         "No One Understands How Wits End Training Really
         Works,  They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey And don't
         Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That Deals With
         Any Situation  And  The  Foundation Is Built On Trust
         And Understanding.

         I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
         they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
         I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
         me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
         they always are, always.

        Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good
        dog" sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll
        find your dog thinking then responding everytime.
        A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies
        to every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

        Obedience and affection are not related, if they were
        everyone would have obedient dogs.

        I have found giving dogs "payment" in advance i.e. "Sam
        sit goodboy" makes the dogs want to respond, after all,
        all dogs want to be "good dogs" and if you tell them they
        are good then they feel an obligation to obey your request.

        Telling Sam he's a good dog AFTER he sit's apart from
        been too late is also a gamble because if he doesn't
        sit then there's no positive interaction.
                                            Paul

               "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
                                I came not to send peace,
                                         but a sword.
         "For I am come to set a man at variance against his father,
                       and the daughter against her mother,
                 the daughter in law against her mother in law
                         and the scholar against his professors.
           "And a man's foes shall be they of his own HOWEshold."
                              The Puppy Prophet <{); ~ ) >

                         All truth passes through three stages.
                                     First, it is ridiculed.
                             Second, it is violently opposed.
                     Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
                                   -Arthur Schopenhauer

                        "Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
                              even tho it's a hopeless task,
                                 in this system of things.
                           As long as man is ruling man,
                        there will be animals (and humans!)
                                 abused and neglected. :-(
                                 Your student," Juanita.

                    "If you've got them by the balls their hearts
                                    and minds will follow,"
                                          John Wayne.

Yours,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Animal Behavior Forensic
Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092

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