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Siberian Husky - Giardia

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Ponder - 17 Feb 2006 17:23 GMT
We got a new ~1yr old dog from a rescue organization.  It has had diarrhea
pretty much constantly for 3 weeks.  The vet gave it 10 days of Flagyl and
then 3 days of Panacur.  It still has the runs.  How many days should we
wait before deciding the problem is not cured?

I suppose the next step is to retest the stool for Giardia, but remember
eating yogurt for a few days after taking antibiotics myself to allow my
guts to normalize.
Rocky - 17 Feb 2006 17:35 GMT
"Ponder" <zilladog@worldlink.corn> said in
rec.pets.dogs.health:

> We got a new ~1yr old dog from a rescue organization.  It
> has had diarrhea pretty much constantly for 3 weeks.  The
> vet gave it 10 days of Flagyl and then 3 days of Panacur.
> It still has the runs.  How many days should we wait before
> deciding the problem is not cured?

With giardia, a dog can easily reinfect himself.  When I had
this situation, and my dog's giardia kept reoccuring after
treatment with Flagyl (Metronidazole), I asked the advice of a
vet doc at local university (as it turned out, it was he who
developed the giardia vaccine).

Flagyl/Metronidazole is a broad-spectrum anti-parasite - Panacur
(Fenbendazole), which you used for three days, is more focused
on giardia, but should be used for two contiguous treatment
periods (IIRC, this is 8 or 10 days).

Good luck.

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Ponder - 17 Feb 2006 20:15 GMT
> With giardia, a dog can easily reinfect himself.  When I had
> this situation, and my dog's giardia kept reoccuring after
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> on giardia, but should be used for two contiguous treatment
> periods (IIRC, this is 8 or 10 days).

Thanks.  What is "IIRC" ?
Sharon - 17 Feb 2006 20:17 GMT
> Thanks.  What is "IIRC" ?

"If I recall correctly..."
John Wesley - 17 Feb 2006 17:53 GMT
> We got a new ~1yr old dog from a rescue organization.  It has had diarrhea
> pretty much constantly for 3 weeks.  The vet gave it 10 days of Flagyl and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> eating yogurt for a few days after taking antibiotics myself to allow my
> guts to normalize.

It doesn't sound cured. Call the vet for advice.

jw
buglady - 18 Feb 2006 00:11 GMT
> We got a new ~1yr old dog from a rescue organization.  It has had diarrhea
> pretty much constantly for 3 weeks.  The vet gave it 10 days of Flagyl and
> then 3 days of Panacur.  It still has the runs.  How many days should we
> wait before deciding the problem is not cured?
>
> I suppose the next step is to retest the stool for Giardia,
.........so the stool was never tested?  That should be the first step.
Since this dog might have had a rocky start, it could just as easily be
Coccidia.

but remember
> eating yogurt for a few days after taking antibiotics myself to allow my
> guts to normalize.

..........Takes more than a few days after he's been on antibiotics for a
couple of weeks.  I'd get some probiotics in pills, give 2X a day for a
month.  It may not even be parasites any more, just abnormal bowel flora.

buglady
take out the dog before replying
Ponder - 18 Feb 2006 16:31 GMT
>> I suppose the next step is to retest the stool for Giardia,

> .........so the stool was never tested?  That should be the first step.
> Since this dog might have had a rocky start, it could just as easily be
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> couple of weeks.  I'd get some probiotics in pills, give 2X a day for a
> month.  It may not even be parasites any more, just abnormal bowel flora.

It was tested.  Vet started Flagyl before getting result then Panacur after
the result.

I'll look for a canine probiotic at my local retail store.
buglady - 18 Feb 2006 20:57 GMT
> I'll look for a canine probiotic at my local retail store.

.........Doesn't have to be canine - I use stuff in refrigerated section of
health food store.

buglady
take out the dog before replying
Melinda Shore - 18 Feb 2006 07:57 GMT
>We got a new ~1yr old dog from a rescue organization.  It has had diarrhea
>pretty much constantly for 3 weeks.  The vet gave it 10 days of Flagyl and
>then 3 days of Panacur.  It still has the runs.  How many days should we
>wait before deciding the problem is not cured?

I'd be open to the possibility that there's other stuff
going on there, as well.  Definitely retest, but I had one
dog who came from the shelter with coccidia but continued to
have nasty skitters after treatment.  Turned out to be IBD.
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Ebbtide - 18 Feb 2006 22:26 GMT
Definitely a priobiotic prior to his/her meal, preferably 1/2 hour before.
Give two times a day. Go to the health food store and get it. Buy a quality
product. This helps to retain good, necessary bacteria while the Rx is
washing out all the bacteria, good and bad.

> We got a new ~1yr old dog from a rescue organization.  It has had diarrhea
> pretty much constantly for 3 weeks.  The vet gave it 10 days of Flagyl and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> eating yogurt for a few days after taking antibiotics myself to allow my
> guts to normalize.
Ponder - 19 Feb 2006 04:38 GMT
> Definitely a priobiotic prior to his/her meal, preferably 1/2 hour before.
> Give two times a day. Go to the health food store and get it. Buy a
> quality product. This helps to retain good, necessary bacteria while the
> Rx is washing out all the bacteria, good and bad.

I got Animal Essentials "Plant Enzymes & Probiotics" which has Bacillus
Coagulans, and I added some acidophilus supplement of mine.

I'm sure she'll get over this soon.
 
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