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Nicole Colbert - 24 Feb 2006 05:49 GMT
Hi, This is my first post to this group and i was just wondering if anyone
could tell me where i could find useful information on canine epilepsy. My 4
yr old lab x kelpie has just been diagnosed with it.
I have read that certatin diets may help keep his seizures under control but
have not read to much about this yet.
Thanks
Nicole
buglady - 24 Feb 2006 13:44 GMT
where i could find useful information on canine epilepsy. My 4
> yr old lab x kelpie has just been diagnosed with it.
> I have read that certatin diets may help keep his seizures under control but
> have not read to much about this yet.

...........There's a good K9epilepsy group you can subscribe to.  I think
Matt (who has a epileptic dog) has it listed at his site:
www.rocky-dog.com - click on Links, scroll down.

..........As for diet, additives, rosemary and colorants are a few of the
items which may precipitate seizures.

buglady
take out the dog before replying
Rocky - 24 Feb 2006 18:34 GMT
"Nicole Colbert" <ncolbert@tpg.com.au> said in
alt.med.veterinary:

> Hi, This is my first post to this group and i was just
> wondering if anyone could tell me where i could find useful
> information on canine epilepsy.

As buglady said (thanks!), check out my links.  They're ordered
from top to bottom in the order of how beneficial they've been
to me.

http://www.rocky-dog.com/Links/LinksMenu.html

> My 4 yr old lab x kelpie
> has just been diagnosed with it. I have read that certatin
> diets may help keep his seizures under control but have not
> read to much about this yet.

Diet can be important in seizure regulation.  What is your dog's
seizure history?

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--Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

Nicole Colbert - 27 Feb 2006 03:16 GMT
Thank you for the links.
Chief has had only a few seizures that we know of but there could have been
signs that he had them before that we missed. His last two seizures were
actually within 10 mins of each other which the vet said were called cluster
seizures. He is now on phenobarbitone twice a day. We are lucky that so far
they are not close together with there being a couple of months between
episodes (except the last lot) but it has been about a month so far and he
hasn't had another one yet.

> "Nicole Colbert" <ncolbert@tpg.com.au> said in
> alt.med.veterinary:
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> --
> --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.
TheAmazingPuppyWizard@Mail.Com - 24 Feb 2006 22:33 GMT
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> and i was just wondering if anyone could tell me where
> i could find useful  information on canine epilepsy.

Many of the lying dog abusing punk thug coward active acute chronic
long term incurable mental cases you're asking for advice got the same
problem with muiltiple dogs.

> My 4 yr old lab x kelpie has just been diagnosed with it.

Seizures are CAUSED by TOXINS, STRESS or TRAUMA.

Has your dog been whacked in the head or poisoned recently? No?
Then that leave STRESS as the PREDICTABLE PROBABLE culprit.

> I have read that certatin diets may help keep his seizures
> under control but have not read to much about this yet.

Unless there's a DEFINITIVE CAUSE of your dog's seizures it's
PROBABLY CAUSED BY STRESS from things like offering and
witholding bribes (as in clicker training), crating, shocking,
traditional
obedience training or other forms of fear, force, witholding attention
rewards and affection, intimidation and punishment aka The Puppy
Wizard's Syndrome <{) ; ~ )  >

> Thanks

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active acute chronic long term incurable mental cases who's own dogs
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CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOIN EVERY THING EXXXACTLY
PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE the EXXXPERTS mishandle and abuse
their dogs and advise you to do likeWIZE. "Misery LOVES company," The
Puppy Wizard's DADDY <{) ; ~ ) >

> Nicole

Of curse you got your own choices. We can talk abHOWET possible
STRESSORS in your dog's daily affairs which we can FIX nearly instantly
OR or we  can talk abHOWET the long term risks of giving your dog anti
seizure medications:

                      Seizures And Neuroleptic Drugs

Subject: Psychiatric Drugs Shorten Life Span (5 of 7)
Date: 2000/03/23

Again, the beginning of the text in each part picks up at the
precise end of the last post in the series. Study of the
entire series is necessary for a full understanding of the author's
message.

This is Part 5:

Now on to another hormone which neuroleptic drugs suppress the
release of which is the pituitary hormone growth hormone.
(Abbreviated GH and also called somatotropin or somatotrophin,
phyone, anterior pituitary growth hormone, adenohypophyseal growth
hormone, somatotrophic hormone, STH) You may think that this is not
a problem because most of the people these drugs are given to are
already adults or in their teens. (I have been recently discovering
that a growing number of children with ADD or similar "conduct
disorder" are being given these drugs.) But growth hormone has
other functions in adults. See the book again called "Handbook of
Vitamins, Minerals and Hormones" on page 307 where it states that
"Because growth hormone controls the nitrogen balance of an
organism, it is thought to be involved in the aging process."

On page 309 of this same book it states that absence of growth
hormone will result in a "decrease in normal life span." On page
311 it states that deficiency will result in "Increased fat
deposition." The hypothalamic hormone growth hormone-releasing
hormone (abbreviated GRH and also called GHRH, GRF,
somatotropin-releasing factor or somatotrophin-releasing factor or
somatotropin-releasing hormone or somatotrophin-releasing hormone,
growth hormone releasing-releasing factor or growth hormone
releasing-releasing hormone, SRF, GHRF) stimulates the secretion of
growth hormone by the pituitary. As we have already learned
neuroleptics suppress the release of both hypothalamic and
pituitary hormones. Here is further evidence that neuroleptic drugs
shorten life span. Therefore the compulsory administration of
neuroleptic drugs by court order of the state is a violation of
one's right to life.

Neuroleptic drugs also possess "adrenergic blocking effects". Again
reference the book "Facts and Comparisons" under the section
"Antipsychotic agents". The book states on the first page of this
section "In addition, the drugs exert anticholinergic and
alpha-adrenergic blocking effects." Also see the book "Drug Info
for the Health Care Professional" again on page 2321 under the
section on phenothiazines where it sates under the subheading
"Mechanism of action/effect" that "Phenothiazines also produce an
alpha-adrenergic blocking effect." (Phenothiazines being just one
of the classes of neuroleptic drugs all of which block dopamine
receptors and cause the same effects due to blockage of these
receptors.) This is so because of the chemical similarity of
dopamine to the adrenergic neurotransmitters, all of which belong
to a family of neurotransmitters called catecholamines.

The adrenergic neurotransmitters are adrenaline and noradrenaline.
(Also called epinephrine and norepinephrine) These two
neurotransmitters are synthesized or created from dopamine; thus
the similarity in their molecular structure. Both these
neurotransmitters double as hormones. Since neuroleptics block or
destroy alpha-adrenergic postsynaptic receptors this would simulate
a deficiency. See the book again "Handbook of Vitamins, Minerals
and Hormones" this time under "Epinephrine".

This book states on page 445 concerning epinephrine that "It is not
essential for life, but it is indirectly essential, since it is
involved in stress responses via cortisol, which is essential". (We
have already learned the importance of cortisol.) On this same page
it states that one of the functions of epinephrine or adrenaline is
increasing metabolic rate in time of need to respond to stress or
emergency. Also see page 447 under the subheading "Essentiality for
Life" where it states that deficiency of this hormone and
neurotransmitter will cause "possible shortening of life span due
to decreased response to emergencies." So if threatened by a life
threatening situation neuroleptic drugs make one physically ill
equipped to face the threat.

Also on page 448 under "Deficiency Symptoms", "Not fatal, but
organism cannot respond to emergency, hard work, temperature
extreme, emotional disturbance". Not fatal of course unless one
fails to respond to adequately to an emergency or dies of
heatstroke. Again see the book "Facts and Comparisons" under
"Antipsychotic Agents" under "Adverse Reactions" where it states
that "Heatstroke/Hyperpyrexia induced by neuroleptics has occurred.
They may act in several ways including disrupting the hypothalamic
thermoregulator center, alpha-adrenergic blockage and autonomic
mechanisms." (Hyperpyrexia is overheating of the body.) And of
course not being able to respond to emotional disturbance or stress
blocking the stress response making one incapable of dealing with
stress thus precipitating agitation.

This is destructive to the body in it's own right so here is
another way these neuroleptic drugs shorten life span. Also
appetite is controlled in part by noradrenaline within the
hypothalamus. Lowered metabolism and the compulsion to consume more
food due to increased appetite from the blockage of noradrenaline
receptors within the hypothalamus equals weight gain. It can not be
avoided. See the book again called "Facts and Comparisons" under
"antipsychotic agents" under "Adverse Reactions" under
"Miscellaneous" which states that neuroleptics will cause
"increases in appetite and weight".

Neuroleptics also have "anticholinergic blocking effects".
Acetylcholine is a neurotransmitter. The brain produces an enzyme
called acetylcholinesterase to break down excess acetylcholine to
prevent it from accumulating to abnormal levels. This break down of
acetylcholine by this enzyme comprises the anticholinergic system.
Neuroleptic drugs have "anticholinergic blocking effects" meaning
they cause the accumulation of acetylcholine to abnormal levels.
Nerve gas's method of causing death is by its anticholinergic
activity. Also insecticide kills insects by this same method
causing an abnormal build up of acetylcholine in the brain and
nervous system of the insect. See the book again called "Facts and
Comparisons" under "antipsychotic agents" at the bottom of the
first page in this section where it states that "In addition, the
drugs exert anticholinergic and alpha-adrenergic blocking effects."

Also see the book called "Brainscapes" by Richard M. Restak, MD
published by NY Herperion © 1995. On page 57 of this book it
states; "As we have discussed earlier, after a neurotransmitter and
it's receptor have reacted, the process must be brought to a halt,
which is accomplished either by the destruction of the
neurotransmitter and recycling of it's constituents, or by a
so-called reuptake system, whereby the neurotransmitter is
recaptured and stored once again within the vesicle.

In the case of acetylcholine, the process involves a breakdown
brought about by the enzyme acetylcholinesterase, which cleaves the
neurotransmitter back to its original chemical building blocks.
This process can be interfered with by compounds responsible for
some of the worst horrors of twentieth-century warfare. Nerve
gases, such as the deadly Sarin released into the subway system in
Tokyo in March 1995, form irreversible bonds with
anticholinesterase [acetylcholinesterase], thus inhibiting the
enzymes' ability to break down acetylcholine in the synapse."

Then on page 121 of this same book it states; "In the section on
neurotransmitters we mentioned another class of neurotoxins,
inhibitors of the enzyme acetylcholinesterase, which breaks down
the neurotransmitter acetylcholine. Many pesticides are designed to
attack the nervous system of insects by altering the breakdown of
acetylcholine. Not surprisingly, these agents also act on our
brains and nervous systems to produce symptoms like weakness,
difficulty in breathing, visual disturbances, and in some cases
explosive violence. With low rates of exposure the problems are
more subtle, a prevailing sense of tension, disturbed sleep,
restlessness, chronic anxiety, and nervousness when standing in
lines."

All of these symptoms can be observed in people on neuroleptics.
For instance "visual disturbances", see the book again "Facts and
Comparisons" under "Ocular" in Adverse Reactions which states that
neuroleptics will cause "Glaucoma; photophobia; blurred vision;
miosis; mydriasis; ptosis; star-shaped lenticular opacities;
epithelial keratopathies; pigmentary retinopathy. Eye lesions may
regress after drug withdrawal."

Also as Richard Restak MD reports insecticide exposure will cause
"restlessness" and or "nervousness when standing in lines." This
has been given a name "Akathisia", see the book again "Facts and
Comparisons" under "Extrapyramidal" under "Akathisia" which states
that neuroleptics cause "a condition of constant motor restlessness
[called akathisia] and may include feelings of muscle quivering, an
inability to sit still and an urge to constantly move about."

Also he reports that insecticide exposure will cause "difficulty
breathing", again see the book "Facts and Comparisons" in the same
section under "Respiratory" which states that neuroleptics cause
"Laryngospasm; bronchospasm; increased depth of respiration;
dyspnea." (Dyspnea is difficulty breathing or shortness of breath.)
Also he states that insecticide exposure will cause "weakness",
again see the book "Facts and Comparisons" in the same section
under "Other CNS effects:" that neuroleptic drugs will cause
"Cerebral edema, headache, weakness, tremor, staggering gait;
twitching; tension; jitteriness; akinesia; ataxia; fatigue;
slurring [of speech]; abnormal cerebrospinal fluid proteins;" etc.

Also Richard Restak MD reports that insecticide exposure will cause
"disturbed sleep". Again see the book "Facts and Comparisons" in
the same section under "Other CNS effects" where it states that
these drugs cause "insomnia" and under "Adverse behavioral
effects:" where it states that neuroleptic drugs cause "nocturnal
confusion" and "bizarre dreams". Richard Restak MD also reports
that insecticide exposure will cause "a prevailing sense of
tension", again see the book "Facts and Comparisons" under "Other
CNS effects" where it states that neuroleptics cause "tension".

Also he reports that insecticide exposure will cause "anxiety". Now
see the book called "The Essential Guide to Prescription Drugs
Revised Edition" © 1980 by James W. Long MD and published by Harper
& Row on page 344 under haloperadol (a neuroleptic drug) that this
drug can cause "anxiety".

Also Richard Restak MD reports in his book that insecticide
exposure causes "in some cases, explosive violence." Now see the
book "Facts and Comparisons" in the same section under "Adverse
behavioral effects:" where it states that neuroleptics can cause
"hyperactivity" and "agitation". (See the commentary coming up
concerning a Star Trek Voyager episode entitled "The Chute" where
the story centered on this very effect.)

Stay tuned for Part 6...

Death Producing Ulcers: "Emotional Influences
On Health & Behavior" Dr. George Von Hilsheimer

       Emotional Influences On Behavior

       Illness is directly related to depression and lack of
       adjustment, particularly to a new environment (Parens,
       McConville & Kaplan, 1966).

       A WIDE RANGE of PSYCHOSOMATIC or
       CORTICOVISCERAL DIS-EASES was surveyed
       by Wittkower (1965) to demonstrate the enormous
       importance of emotional factors in general health.

       Interview findings of emotional material (recently
       experienced hopelessness) pryor to biological
       examinations correctly identified 11 out of 19 with
       cervical cancer, and 25 of 32 who were cancer free
       even though psychological tests failed to discriminate
       these groups (Schmale & Iker, 1966)

       150 lung cancer patients showed significantly
       constricted expression of emotions. The had fewer
       childhood behavior problems, and lower neuroticism
       score than their cancer free controls. Heavy cigarette
       smokers who DO NOT INHALE are more apt to have LUNG
       CANCER. They, too, show LOWER neuroticism scores.
       Among heavy cigarette smokers poor emotional
       expression is as highly related to cancer as urban
       residence and is more important than a chronic cough
       or an air polluted environment (Kissen, 1966).

       A ten year observation of all the women who developed
       cancer in an isolated pupulation of 2,550 showed that
       they tended to be unstable or sub stable personalities
       characterized by melancholy and extraversion,
       especially marked with those of an undecided body
       build (Hagll, 1966). Personality dynamics effect both
       the development of cancer and it's SITE. Cancer
       may result from what appears to be a failure to grow--
       somatically, behaviorally and psychologically
       (Grinker, 1966).

       In 109 cases leukemia and lymphoma were associated
       with a number of losses or separations and with
       feelings of sadness, anxiety, anger or hopelessness.
       The PRIMARY FACTOR seems to be the shame and
       hopelessness of running out of psychological resources
       (Green, 1966). Cervical cancer patients are less
       emotionally responsive, more isolative, and less
       frequently diagnosed as having clinical neuroses than
       cancer free patients. There is NO CLEAR DIFFERENCE in
       their FEELINGS and ATTITUDES toward coitus (Rotkin,
       Qunk, & Couchman, 1965).

       Schmidt (1966) surveyed nearly 100 studies of
       behaviorally induced DIS-EASE in animals CONFIRMING
       and EXTENDING the DATA on PEOPLE. Behaviorally
       induced DIS-EASES tend to fall into two groups;
       (1) Hysteriform problems, which INCLUDE HYSTERICAL
       SEIZURES and FORMS of AGGRESSION as well as
       collective panic and epilepsies;
       (2) organic modifications, including functional difficulties
       and lesions affecting gastro intestinal, cardio vascular,
       respiratory, sexual, endocrine, skin, urinary, and neuro
       muscular systems.

       It is INTERESTING, and SLIGHTLY HORRIFYING,
       to note that the ONLY SCIENTIFIC RELEVANCE of
       the standard six hour school day that I have been able
       to detect in research is that Sawrey and Weisz quite
       by accident found that six hours on and six hour off of
       "EXECUTIVE  BEHAVIOR" in monkeys was the ONLY
       TIME STRUCTURE that INDUCED DEATH PRODUCING
       ULCERS.
 
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