Pet Forum / Miscellaneous / Animal Health / April 2006

HOWEDY teri,

INDEEDY! We got several dog lovers here abHOWETS who's
critters are DYIN of this STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE
DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <{): ~ ( >

Yeah. That's VERY COMMON here abHOWETS.

There AIN'T NO TREATMENT for it other than to EXXXTINGUISH
the STRESS which CAUSES the body to break DHOWEN <{): ~ ( >

As is your veterinary malpracticioner. We got several of
them here abHOWETS. Surprising they ain't replied blowin
smoke up your arse as they ordinarily do. Perhaps that
word "MISDIAGNOSED" scared them off...

Google SHOWES 9,890 references to megaesophagus and stress.

Prognosis:
In most cases, the clinical signs stabilize between 6 months
and one year of age, and affected dogs may become acceptable
house pets, although they are not suitable for work.

Owners of affected dogs should be warned that stress,
including exposure to low temperatures, can result in a
dramatic worsening of clinical signs, even in clinically
stable adults. The life span of affected dogs does not appear
to be directly affected by the condition, although the
prognosis for dogs with megaesophagus should be more guarded,
due to the risk of developing inhalation pneumonia.

Most of HOWER dog lovers give their dogs 4 feedins a
day to prevent "gastric reflux" <{): ~ ( >

That's GARBAGE.

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      Animal Behavior Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory

Subject: Emotional Component Of DIS-EASE - The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME

Death Producing Ulcers: "Emotional Influences
On Health & Behavior" Dr. George Von Hilsheimer

       Emotional Influences On Behavior

       Illness is directly related to depression and lack of
       adjustment, particularly to a new environment (Parens,
       McConville & Kaplan, 1966).

       A WIDE RANGE of PSYCHOSOMATIC or
       CORTICOVISCERAL DIS-EASES was surveyed
       by Wittkower (1965) to demonstrate the enormous
       importance of emotional factors in general health.

       Interview findings of emotional material (recently
       experienced hopelessness) pryor to biological
       examinations correctly identified 11 out of 19 with
       cervical cancer, and 25 of 32 who were cancer free
       even though psychological tests failed to discriminate
       these groups (Schmale & Iker, 1966)

       150 lung cancer patients showed significantly
       constricted expression of emotions. The had fewer
       childhood behavior problems, and lower neuroticism
       score than their cancer free controls. Heavy cigarette
       smokers who DO NOT INHALE are more apt to have LUNG
       CANCER. They, too, show LOWER neuroticism scores.
       Among heavy cigarette smokers poor emotional
       expression is as highly related to cancer as urban
       residence and is more important than a chronic cough
       or an air polluted environment (Kissen, 1966).

       A ten year observation of all the women who developed
       cancer in an isolated pupulation of 2,550 showed that
       they tended to be unstable or sub stable personalities
       characterized by melancholy and extraversion,
       especially marked with those of an undecided body
       build (Hagll, 1966). Personality dynamics effect both
       the development of cancer and it's SITE. Cancer
       may result from what appears to be a failure to grow--
       somatically, behaviorally and psychologically
       (Grinker, 1966).

       In 109 cases leukemia and lymphoma were associated
       with a number of losses or separations and with
       feelings of sadness, anxiety, anger or hopelessness.
       The PRIMARY FACTOR seems to be the shame and
       hopelessness of running out of psychological resources
       (Green, 1966). Cervical cancer patients are less
       emotionally responsive, more isolative, and less
       frequently diagnosed as having clinical neuroses than
       cancer free patients. There is NO CLEAR DIFFERENCE in
       their FEELINGS and ATTITUDES toward coitus (Rotkin,
       Qunk, & Couchman, 1965).

       Schmidt (1966) surveyed nearly 100 studies of
       behaviorally induced DIS-EASE in animals CONFIRMING
       and EXTENDING the DATA on PEOPLE. Behaviorally
       induced DIS-EASES tend to fall into two groups;
       (1) Hysteriform problems, which INCLUDE HYSTERICAL
       SEIZURES and FORMS of AGGRESSION as well as
       collective panic and epilepsies;
       (2) organic modifications, including functional
       difficulties and lesions affecting gastro intestinal,
       cardio vascular, respiratory, sexual, endocrine, skin,
       urinary, and neuro muscular systems.

       It is INTERESTING, and SLIGHTLY HORRIFYING,
       to note that the ONLY SCIENTIFIC RELEVANCE of
       the standard six hour school day that I have been able
       to detect in research is that Sawrey and Weisz quite
       by accident found that six hours on and six hour off of
       "EXECUTIVE  BEHAVIOR" in monkeys was the ONLY
       TIME STRUCTURE that INDUCED DEATH PRODUCING
       ULCERS.

From: Sue and Atty (_apple_notmyrealaddr...@raexdot.com)
Subject: Re: 2 year old chewing paws ???

Date: 2004-08-02 16:00:29 PST

NAET   Here's a site to check out.  It sounds
very voodoo, but I went into it quite skeptical -
thinking at least it wasn't hurting her, and if it
didn't work, it was only money.  I was amazed
at the results. http://www.vetnaet.com/

"There is a special application of NAET that addresses
the emotional component of allergy. Because emotions
can create energy blockages and therefore cause
imbalance, treating emotions as if they are allergens
can be accomplished with NAET.

By using MRT to identify emotional imbalances and
following the basic treatment protocol, it is possible
to address and resolve behavioral issues such as
inappropriate urination, antisocial behavior and
aggressiveness, as well as inter-family dynamics
and adaptation to change such as grief or loss."

Sue and Atty

             =================

http://www.labbies.com/css.htm

Currently, other than rest, there is no generally accepted
medication which has been found to be effective for the
treatment of HMLR. Some individuals have, however,
responded to treatment with Diazepam or steroids.

How CSS Causes Seizures. Metabolic encephalopathy (ME) is
a disturbance of brain function resulting in neurologic
deficits and is caused by disorders of metabolism.

Accordingly, ME commonly occurs secondary to CSS because Ca
release channel defects have detrimental effects on the brain
and central nervous system.

The brain has limited stores of high-energy phosphates (ATP)
and glucose reserves that it requires to maintain neuronal
functionand cellular integrity. Therefore, the brain is dependent
upon glucose and oxygen supplied by blood flow for its energy
requirements.

Inability to maintain its own energy reserves makes the brain
extremely sensitive to metabolic disturbances that deplete
energy substrates from the blood.

Loss of calcium homeostasis plays a major role in the
development of neurologic dysfunction. Excessive release of
Ca as occurs in some dogs with CSS has effects including
but not limited to neurotransmitter release and acute energy
depletion.

In other dogs with CSS, persistent leakage of Ca creates a
continuous demand for energy. In either of these forms of CSS,
the increased demand for energy quickly or persistently
depletes the blood of energy substrates required by the brain.
One of the major energy requiring functions of the brain is to
maintain the resting membrane potential by the
sodium/potassium ion pump.

When the brain cannot get the energy it requires, the pump
fails and the membrane potential decays toward threshold
producing the neuron discharge responsible for seizures.

This explains why even mild stimuli such as eating
and fasting can result in seizures in the CSS-susceptible
dog. Fasting inhibits replacement of blood glucose depleted
by elevated energy demands in dogs with leaky Ca release.

Even mildly afflicted dogs that demonstrate low level Ca
leakage will have higher energy requirements.

Because eating induces insulin production that will require
glucose to balance the insulin levels, additional requirement
of glucose during eating will also further compromise a CSS-
susceptible dog whose glucose levels are already depleted
due to Ca leakage.

This condition of depleted blood glucose levels, which occurs
in conjunction with CSS, is known as hypoglycemia and may
be one of the principle causes for seizures in CSS dogs.

http://www.working-retriever.c om/library/myo.html

Preliminary biochemical data indicate significantly elevated
concentrations of sodium, calcium, zinc, copper, chloride,
fat, and intracellular water and reduced levels of potassium
and magnesium in muscles from affected adult Labrador
retrievers.

In addition, a significant decrease in muscle specific
proteins has been identified in the biceps femois muscle of
affected dogs.

Despite the presence of some apparently "neurogenic" features,
examination of the various parts of the lower motor neuron has
so far failed to identify morphological abnormalities.

The underlying pathophysiologial mechanisms involved
in this disease are, therefore, still unclear.

BUT NHOWE YOU KNOW HOWE COME... it's
The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME, dog lovers.

    HERE'S a few of the lyin dog abusin active acute
    chronic long term incurable mental cases who's
    critters are DYIN from "megaesophagus" aka The
    Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME:

From: lis...@mindspring.com (RemarQ User)
Date: 1999/07/08
Subject: Re: Termite Boxer

Jane Webb, I laughed at your reply. Surprisingly enough, he has
yet to get sick after his wood snacks. As far as the vet goes;
he cannot find anything wrong with him or missing from his diet.

I think yall are right, boxers are just 'unique'(we try not to
say odd around him due to his extreme neurosis). It's weird; he
had so many health problems his first 5 years-puppy seizures,
hives, tumors, one cancerous mast cell one, pancreatitis, pneumonia,
megaesophagus.

He would have died at an early age with a less worrying owner.

But now, all we worry about is a little arthritis in his hind
quarters...
and of course this dang wood chip thing. And I can ssure you, it's not
a
lack of fiber; he's pretty regular atleast four times a day.

From: Perso...@concentric.net (Alicia A. Knapp)
Date: 1997/06/05
Subject: Re: pronged collar for pulling on lead?

On 2 Jun 1997 21:44:34 GMT, "Marcy & Lance Wilhelm"

<L-MWilh...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

<snip>

Hi Marcy,

I have owned two dogs that needed the pinch. The first was my
Doberman Grendel who, having megaesophagus, was extremely sensitive
to any pressure on the front of her neck/throat. Choke collar
corrections caused regurgitation - the pinch did not.

It was far kinder to her.

The second is my Dobe Mako. Physically, she's a "hard" dog;
temperamentally she's an easily discouraged creampuff. The
pinch collar allowed a decisive correction delivered with
a minimum of fuss/effort, which worked for her.

There have been so many good replies to this post that I'll confine my
remarks to this one point: If the pinch looks like a medieval torture
device to you, it will likely seem so to J. Q. Public during walks.
(Perhaps due to the breed of dog I own, I have encountered people who
either thought the collar was some sign of my dogs being "dangerous"
or me being a "mean" person. <sigh>)

I have a pink bandanna I call "Public Relations" and I wrap it around
the outside of the pinch - thus hiding it. Works like a charm in
transforming my dogs from "tortured Public Enemy #1" to "Cute Doggie
on a Walk." (Hey! Maybe all you APBT owners just need to buy a
shitload of bandannas... <BEG>)

As your dog has more coat than mine do, you may not need this advice,
but I thought I'd offer it, all the same. Good luck with your
training, and remember the collar is only a tool - you still need to
learn to use it right, with timing and consistency.

--
Alicia Knapp,
The DoberGRLs, Echo and Mako
and The Dog of Eternal Stench, Boomer, in
Anoka, MN
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Home is where the dogs are.

From: Perso...@concentric.net (Alicia A. Knapp)
Date: 1997/11/01
Subject: Re: BORED W/KOEHLER? TRY THIS!!....
YOU CAN'T "CONTROL FREAK" THE MUZZLE!!

Ye Gods, I didn't have the energy to read this whole thing,
but whattayaknow, my own name leapt out at me.

On Fri, 31 Oct 1997 01:21:57 -0200, The Muzzle Changing ZenMaster

<zzen...@earthlink.com> wrote:

<snip Robert C.'s contributions>

You're right; she didn't. I bought Mako to compete in obedience,
from a responsible breeder. Apparently you misunderstand that this
constitutes some magical guarantee that a dog will be perfect; it
does not. The best that even a careful breeder can do is to determine
(as much as possible) whatever faults their stock carry, and make every
effort not to perpetuate serious ones.

In Mako's case, the breeder produced a shy pup (a fault as defined by
the breed standard) from temperamentally correct dogs. What makes her
a *responsible* breeder is that upon learning this, she adjusted her
program. (I believe the sire was neutered as he had produced one
other.) She also sends every puppy buyer a two-page questionnaire when
the dog has matured, asking about temperament and health.

IMO, a responsible breeder is not someone who never errs, but is
someone who *learns* from those mistakes and goes on to do better for
the sake of the *dogs.*

And, in a way, I didn't actually do it "right" in the sense that I
find I like a hard dog with strong working drives... I'll be finding a
breeder who raises and trains Schutzhund dogs next time around.

Heh heh -- see above. (Echo, btw, has a temperament to die for ... but
there will never be another like Grendel.)

<snip>

LOL! Grendel was the product of a puppy mill; her temperament was
happy accident (for me - she was on the hyper side) and probably a
one-shot. I doubt even her "breeders" could produce another like her.

And well they shouldn't. She was sort of funny lookin' and
lion-hearted though she was, she had missing teeth. She had
megaesophagus and was diagnosed with hip dysplasia by age 5. Most dogs
with megaesophagus die of aspiration pneumonia before they are one
year old. Grenny was lucky to escape this fate; my vet lost her
megaesophagus dog by age 2.

Ever dealt with a dog cursed by megaesophagus? Few do -- because it
involves living with a dog who regurgitates almost daily, often
several times. It involves ruined carpets, marred floors and stained
furniture. If the dog sleeps in a crate, it sleeps in its own mess. If
it sleeps with the owner (as Grendel did) it involves *countless*
episodes of being awaked in the small hours to strip the bed.

And how much do you wanna bet that this "breeder" went on, blithely
breeding the pair that produced her?

As for the implication that I am unhappy with my dogs, I think my
posting history puts the lie to it.

Yes, it was hard coming to terms with Mako's unsuitability for the
obedience ring, but I love her dearly for who she is, and in a way,
I'm prouder of her than any dog I've owned. She was a tough nut to
crack in terms of training and I learned more from her than any ten
other dogs could teach. And she got the Mako version of OTCH a few
years ago when she stood calmly for a little boy who wanted to hug her
at the Renaissance Festival. What an achievement for a girl that
doesn't like strangers to even touch her!

*Everybody* has expectations of some sort when they select a dog.

Can she go jogging with me?
Will he sit quietly in my lap while I watch TV?
Can I teach her to fetch?
Will he bark when someone knocks on the door?
Can she do FlyBall?
Will he shed?

Carefully selecting the breed and source of a dog is a rational way to
increase the *odds* that a particular dog will meet the expectations
of a particular owner. If a teetotaler is seeking a mate, he'd be wise
not to cruise the bars for her, eh?

But life doesn't come with guarantees. I happen to be the sort of
person that makes a permanent commitment to my dogs -- if I get a
surprise or two along the way, I'll adjust what I can with training
and adjust my expectations from there.

I'm willing to be an "example" for that cause, anyway.

--
Alicia Knapp,
The DoberGRLs, Echo and Mako
and Boomer, The Dog of Eternal Stench, in
Anoka, MN
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Home is where the dogs are.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

       From: p.k...@home.com (The Kayes)
       Date: 23 Aug 2003 09:17:27 -0700
       Subject: Re: update: SIMON

       Jody - I can only imagine how frustrating this is for
       you. But the way you have handled everything so far is
       no different than how I would have handled it.

       I strongly feel that the answer to Simon's health
       issues are out there somewhere. Vets (and Doctors)
       tend to get very frustrated when they don't have the
       answers. But somewhere out there lies the answer. And
       somewhere out there is the person who is going to give
       it to you. It's like a frustrating puzzle; something
       is wrong, the vets are supposed to have the missing
       pieces, but they don't. So they send you away with
       a condesending pat on your head and tell you to "come
       back dear in a few months if things don't improve."

       You sound like a very strong and determined person and
       if anyone if going to come up with the answer,
       it is going to be you.

       You are the type of person who will do as much research
       as possible to find the answer. The amount of energy and
       time you will devote to finding the answer will naturally
       vary from time to time.

       At times you will be physically and emotionally
       charged and ready to give it all you've got. At other
       times, you will feel deflated, defeated and emotionally
       spent. When we have the strength to do, we will.

       When our strength is so depleated than we must
       get our strength from leaning on those who surround
       us. This is natural.

       I too have been lurking and at times have seen you
       supercharged and ready to take on the world. At other
       times, I have seen you realize that you need someone
       to lean on. And during these times this group
       has been more than willing to let you rest against
       them and draw the much needed energy from them in
       order to help you keep moving forward.

       I can offer no words of wisdom. I have not walked a
       mile in your shoes yet I can feel everything you are
       going through just by reading your words. Never give
       up.

       You have already found some solutions to make
       him feel more comfortable. You have kept copious notes
       on Simon and I hope that one day you will come across
       the vet who has the answer to your question.

       If there is anything I can do to help make your search
       for the answer more successful, I offer you my assistance.

       My research skills, my sheer determination, and my
       ability to locate the right people and push the right
       buttons, are my strengths.

       If there is anything I can do, then please do not
       hesitate to contact me. I live in Toronto. My email
       address is p.k...@rogers.com

       From: "The Puppy Wizard"
       <ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net> -
       Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 03:58:36 GMT
       Subject: Re: Was *Poorly* now BETTER

       HOWEDY

       "J*O*d*Y" <"jodeez(TRASH)stuff"@sympatico.ca> wrote in
       message news:3F6F695D.3D7F71D4@sympatico.ca...
       >
       > Hi Paul.... I'm so glad to hear that things are back
       > to normal.....

       NORMAL?

       BWEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

       NORMAL IS INSANE!!!

       >  Give Shadow a big "Labbie" hug from Simon!!!

       INDEED.

       > J*o*D*y

       YOUR DOG'S GOT The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME:

       From: J*O*D*Y ("jodeez(TRASH)stuff"@sympatico.ca)
       ubject: Re: Update - Simon again - Grrrrrr!!!!
       Newsgroups: alt.pets.dogs.labrador
       Date: 2003-06-22 08:52:12 PST

       Hi all.... The 'resident' vet feels that he is healthy
       enough to endure it at the same time. My concern
       is that if he has an immune-mediated condition, he
       will have impaired wound healing, just the same as
       humans do.

       She does not know what is wrong with him. This
       contributes to the frustration every time we deal with
       the vet teaching hospital.

       Although it is one of the top 5 in the world, they are
       advocates for continuity of care. Each time we go, a
       new 'resident' vet takes his case. We start back
       at day one.... they hear what they want...... they
       form their own opinions.....

       The first one said that Simon's clinical signs could
       be due to a behavioral issue. (Yes, a mass in his
       neck, damaged lungs, and a problem prehending
       his food.... Does anyone know where one could buy a
       new brain???)

       The second one, well, um, uh... let's just say that
       the J-cloth on my kitchen counter had more charisma
       that she did :-)

       Prior to my noticing Simon's muscle weakness in his
       legs, I had mentioned that when he sits on my lap in the
       lazyboy chair, when he goes to get down, his front legs
       touch the floor, and he stays in a 'wheelbarrel' position
       as long as I leave him....

        I usually end up coaxing him down, and lifting him
       down. She said to attach no significance to this
       because her NORMAL doberman does that.... I now
       know for a fact that the reason Simon stayed like that
       is because his back legs were too weak for him to get
       himself up into position in preparation to take his
       back end down with him.....

       Normally, this wouldn't concern me, but this behavior
       painted into the whole picture, helps to make it much
       more clear.

       She also prescribed 2 meds to take at the same time -
       Fenbendazole, 'just in case he had a fungal infection,'
       and Prednisone, 'which shouldn't be administered in the
       case of a fungal infection.'

       Figure that one out....

       The third one tried to tell me that a heart rate of
       240 was normal (and that panting 340 'pants' per
       minute was normal) uh, for 8-10-12 hours???? (My
       own vet though he would cardiac arrest at that time,
       El Bimbette!!).... and even though the Neurologist
       watched Simon's video of how he eats and how
       excessive he pants, she still said that when she
       watched the video, he looked like a normal dog.

      (It really bothers me to no end, 'cuz here is
      this young girl half my age, telling me so
      'matter-of-factly' the way it is....)

      I had to tell her that I was really doubting her
      intelligence and her abilities to care for my dog.

       She didn't think that I needed to puree his foods,
       but based on the difficulty he has, I need to. Since
       we started pureeing his food, he has eaten every
       single meal, which we have increased by half more....
       every single meal since June 10th.... This is the
       longest stretch he has eaten.

       He still has a little trouble, but 'licking' it up,
       seems to work best for him, and his tongue doesn't
       appear to 'tire' as quick.

       I fed him there, and I mixed his food quite well, but
       it was still a thick consistency. I told her that what
       will happen, is that he will eagerly 'lick' over and
       over again, and he ends up only getting a small amount.

      He will tire.... and he  will walk away from it. He will
      be frustrated, and he will come back. He will lick it a
      few more times, and walk away.... I know my dog....

       "Mother's know best..." AND he did exactly what I said
       he'd do..... He hardly ate any of his meal there. She said
       it was likely due to the environment, all the excitement, etc.

       (QUACK!!!)

       Also, she insisted that I feed him immediately after
       they exercised him to induce his weakness and
       excessive panting.... I told her that under no
       circumstances, would I ever feed my dog when he is
       panting like this, as he is at  a very high risk for
       aspiration.... She disagreed. She also told me that
       there is no pain with a neuter....

       The only advantage I see to having his neutering done
       at this time, is that he wouldn't have to endure an
       anaesthetic at a later date.

       IF he has Myasthenia Gravis, they must be so
       careful with anaesthetic. I'm kind of caught between
       a rock and a hard place....

       I have expressed my concerns, but they fall on deaf
       ears..... Any concrete info about risks, dangers,
       implications, etc. related to having a sick dog
       neutered?

       Jody & Simon

       J*O*D*Y wrote:

       > We are no further ahead with Simon at this point. He
       > doesn't seem to be in any pain... which I am truly thankful
       > for.... After his 72 hour 'crisis,' he is now on pureed
canned
       > food and he has eaten everything since we started doing
       > this on June 10.. hasn't missed a meal.
       >
       > (We leave a little bit of dry kibble out for him, but it
       > usually lasts 3-4 days, as he will go get a few pieces
       > here and there...) He still has a bit of a problem eating
       > the pureed food, but at least he's  eating. 3.5 months
       > of hardly eating much was not good.

       > In case you missed the '72 hour crisis,' he had a
       > drastic deterioration a couple of weeks ago. Excessive
       > panting (340 'pants' per minute) 240 heart rate, and he
       > has been bunny-hopping when he runs since then.....
       > He walks 'stilted,' although they haven't even noticed this
       > at the hospital.

       > His energy level is about the same, and his panting
       > has decreased.... He is still exercise intolerant. He's
       > had an ACTH stimulation test, which was normal....
       > We're now awaiting results on his serum antibody
       > test, and based on those results, we will know then
       > if we proceed with the EMG and muscle biopsy (and
       > neuter!!) all at the same time.

       > He has good days, and he has days where he is
       > lethargic all day, with today being one of them.

       > Hopefully, we'll have it all figured out soon....
       > it's been going on far too long....

       > I'll post something when we find out.......

       > Jody & Simon

Oh, bye the bye, here's HOWE COME your dog is DEATHLY ILL:

From: J*O*D*Y ("jodeez(TRASH)stuff"@sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Counter Jumping
Date: 2003-06-13 12:26:23 PST

The first time Simon did this (around 4 months old),
I 'baited him' the following evening, at the advice of
our obedience trainer.

I put out the same food he stole (salmon sandwich) and left
the room. I walked out and turned around as he was jumping
up. I flew into the kitchen like a wild crazy person - arms
flapping, loud hollering, just basically scaring the livin'
bajeezus out of him..... The even said you could try doing
the above and banging pots and pans.... I didn't want him to
have a cardiac arrest, so I chose to lower the volume :-)

It worked..... He's 10 months old now, and although he is
very ill, he's never ever done anything remotely similar....

Jody

From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:08:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Update: SIMON

HOWEDY j*o*d*y

"J*O*d*Y" <"jodeez(TRASH)stuff"@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

news:3F8C9CC2.63AC9BF0@sympatico.ca...

INDEEDY. It's NICE to be NICE. Ain't it.

INDEEDY. Too bad for Simon.

Well, just open the door and step back an
he'll be HISTORY.

The Puppy Wizard knows what your future holds.

INDEEDY. You got a SICK dog...

Your dog is DYIN of STRESS from MISHANDLING.

He's got The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME:

From: J*O*D*Y ("jodeez(TRASH)stuff"@sympatico.ca)

Subject: Re: Update - Simon again - Grrrrrr!!!!

IMAGINE THAT??? The doctors want to form their
own opinions abHOWET a perplexing case?

INDEED? You mean, like jerking and choking IT
on your pronged spiked pinch choke collar and
shock containment system and ignoring and
rejecting him and locking IT in a box?

INDEED??? STRANGE GOIN'S ON, eh?

You'll have to ask The _ Wizard.

HOWEDY Allan,

"Allan Wong" <allanw...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:vf3kb.117459$pl3.74754@pd7tw3no...

You won't be gettin no advice from HOWER dog lovers
here abHOWETS. They've got the same same same
same problems you do, to varying degrees.

<snip story>

It's all the same same same same, Allan.

That's shown some good results, as have the other essential
oils, amino acids, vitamins especially C A&D, antioxidents,
etc. in the correct BALANCE.

These SYNDROMES are CAUSED BY STRESS on the
nervHOWES / endocrine systems from MISHANDLING.

UofOH and other researcher's have recently identified
the link between EMOTIONAL STRESS HORMONES and a list
of DIS-EASES which they can pricipitate, among them,
osteoporosis, glaucoma, and your dog's condition.

Which may be responsible for STRESSING HIM:

From: "Toni" <T...@irish-wolfhoundsSPAM.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:20:35 GMT

Subject: Re: Temperment of Golden
"Diana" <diana_pete.st...@lineone.net> wrote in message

news:9ml9kq$2rc38$1@ID-104574.news.dfncis.de...

Actually, I believe the OP's dog has other issues... I would first have
the
dog evaluated by a veterinarian.... it sounds more to me like
megaesophagus
than anything else. Vomiting consistently after eating is the classic
sign.

--
Toni
www.irish-wolfhounds.com

From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@ncweb.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:47:20 -0400

Subject: Re: people are idiots pt 294
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:09:19 -0500, Kathleen

<khhfmdel...@thischarter.net> wrote:

I don't think her hind legs are strong enough for the countersurfing
part, but the sitting up is worth a try.  Keep those ideas coming,
folks; I have a feeling we'll be doing a lot of experimenting in the
next few days.

Mustang Sally

From: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:15:04 -0400

Subject: Re: Temperment of Golden

The dog only does it when he's crated. Dogs get anxious when
they're crated, and that makes them SICK. Ask your pal matt.
There's a whole lot of dogs with seizures who are coincidentally
crated.

Crating dogs can cause them to be hyperactive and aggressive
and to self mutilate and dig and chew and bark and pace and
whine incessantly.

That's all because our "experts" don't have any idea what they
are doing, or they wouldn't be crating and choking and shocking
and pinching ears and toes and testicles and beating dogs with
sticks to MOTIVATE them. Would they? j;~}

Commercial dog foods may contribute to these problems
as does traditional handling and training and crating.

Right. That'll happen later in the form of other sympoms.

Yeah... the same same same same as so many other dogs
here abHOWETS.

INDEEDY. HOWER dog lovers have spent FORTUNES
vetting their dogs for STRESS RELATED DIS-EASES
which will NEVER BE CURED using drugs and diet if
THE CAUSE of the STRESS is not EXXXTINGUISHED.

professor lying doc "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM "NO!"
into ITS face for 5 seconds and lock IT in a box for ten
minutes reflection" dermer of the department of ANAL-ytic
behaviorISM at UofWI recently fHOWEND a CURE for his dog
Maxie The Magnificent FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive
Masturbator's recurrent urinary / bladder / ibd SYNDROME.

He rubs his tallywhacker for five minutes every nite at
bedtime with a warm tHOWEL and aloe gel. Try it
for your own dog if he enjoys it, and you'll likeWIZE
see the CALMING benefit of TLC, extinguish your
dog's symptoms.

Of curse, this will not work if you've got to restrain
the dog to treat his "condition" or continue punishing
/ scolding / intimidating / choking / bribing / withholding
bribes / crating your dog.

INDEEDY. Other MISDIAGNOSISES are commonly
addisons and cushings and other myopathies/myalgias
lupus and most "autoimmune" DIS-EASES.

Although there's a genetic link, the condition probably
won't manifest unless the dog is STRESSED, like by
having a choke chain or pronged spiked pinch choke
collar an crate confinement till he's QUIET and HOWEsbroke.

INDEEDY. Seems to best respond to VALLIUM.

A TRANQUILIZER. Like professor SCRUFF SHAKE'S
tallywhacker treatment... in a sense.

Welcome to The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME, allan.

Right. Then he'll manifest other symptoms as he reaches
3 and 6 years of age... Your dog's got a case of The
Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

Absolutely. As stated above.

Probably not.

From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@ncweb.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:29:56 -0500

Subject: Re: Follow up on Canidae

On 22 Dec 2005 07:14:41 -0800, "beth...@aol.com"

<beth...@aol.com> wrote:

Add Anna, who can eat only canned food (and due to her megaesophagus,
we feed her Nutro which is a paste consistency, so no discounts there),
and our feed bill is $300 a month, minimum.  For the dogs, that is.

Mustang Sally

HOWEDY racetrack silly,

sighthounds & siberians wrote:

You're SCARIER than any hobgoblin from the depths of HEEL.

Whopiee!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard NEVER HEARD of THAT!

Isn't he physically and emotionally CRIPPLED?

Yeah. Work. YUK!

I'll have to look up the condition. I'd BET MY LIFE,
DHOWEBLE OR NUTHING that it's a STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

INDEEDY! I guess I get to live another milennium!:

       "Roaring" or laryngeal hemiplegia is due to a
neuropathy of the reurrent laryngeal nerve on the left
side. The muscle which abducts the left vocal cord
is therefore paralyzed, and the resulting turbulent
airflow causes the noise.

       Surgery generally involves "tying back" the
vocal cord, sort of like tying back a curtain, although
there are some experimental procedures on nerve
transplantation being tried.

      Surgery is about the only treatment for the
condition.

       I can't see where sweating the neck would
worsen the condition, unless there were only a
partial paralysis and pressure was somehow put on
the nerve, which seems unlikely.
               --C.M.Newell, DVM
(owner of the World's Most Expensive Free Horse,
who had tieback surgery *twice*)

Of curse! All she NEEDS is a STRESS FREE environment.
My larynix goes HOWETA WHACK if I'm stressed, just
like my knee, ankle and back, all STRESS INDUCED DIS-
EASES, racetrack silly, JUST LIKE the SEIZURES four
of your dogs are goin through and the CANCERS four
of your dogs DIED from, racetrack silly!

Your dogs ALWAYS recover from their stress induced
auto-immune DIS-EASES because THAT'S the NATURE of
The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME. Till they DIE from it,
usually at your own hand. But this one DON'T LOOK
GOOD because it's CAUSED BY jerking choking shocking
crating bribing and witholding attention affection
rewards and unconditional love trust and respect:

"Conditions such as neuromuscular or metabolic diseases
(myasthenia gravis, hypothyroidism), trauma (bite wounds
or blunt trauma to the neck), inflammation or neoplasia
may lead to laryngeal paralysis."

"Most of the time, the specific cause
of the muscle paralysis is not known."

It's CAUSED by STRESS, just like my laryngeal
problem which muted me for 8 months many years
ago and reocurs NEARLY INSTANTLY if I should
ever lose my temper.

"Occasionally, laryngeal paralysis is only one sign
of a systemic neurological disorder, but most of the
time it is a problem that occurs by itself. Clinical
signs of laryngeal paralysis are related to failure
of normal movement of the vocal folds."

IOW, The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME!

HOWEDY racetrack silly, you dog murderin mental case,

sighthounds & siberians wrote:

The dog's behavior would be different in his yard.

You can tell alot abHOWET a dog by his toilet habits
JUST LIKE HOWE you can tell alot abHOWET a dog by his
tail. S-HOWENDS like this dog is MARKING with her POOP.

While it COULD be a veterinary problem it PROBABLY AIN'T.

What parasites would cause this behavior,
racetrack silly? Don't seem to be a SYMPTOM
of parasites.

Could be.

But is's PROBABLY a SYMPTOM of anXXXIHOWESNESS.

You can figger THAT HOWET by EXXXAMINING HOWE
the dog is being handled and trained...

There AIN'T NO SUCH THING as a "dominant" anything.
That type of behavior is LEARNED, COPIED from their
ABUSERS.

NO PROBLEM. ANY behavior that's CONSISTENT
REPEATABLE or PREDICTABLE is EZ to EXXXTINGUISH
NEARLY INSTANTLY using effective non physical
scientific and psychological conditioning
techniques as taught in YOUR FREE COPY of
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual <{) ; ~ ) >

S-HOWENDS like ANXXXIHOWESNESS, not "MARKING."

You think so, racetrack silly?

THAT AIN'T gonna TRAIN the dog not to
do that noMOORE, racetrack silly <{); ~ ) >

She won't move, racetrack silly.
He'd have to DRAG and CHOKE her.

You're a IDIOT:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

"Sally Hennessey" <greyho...@ncweb.com> wrote in message

news:54nuetsqgkhp26qqv128jnumgmb2m27opr@4ax.com...

Nope.  No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.

I'm starting to see some similarities here.

Sally Hennessey

"My spayed Siberian bitch marks and covers all
over the place, as did my spayed Dalmatian bitch.
The Borzoi doesn't, but she is *extremely* submissive."

Sally Hennessey

"Oops, hit "send" too fast.  Of course bitches in
season are advertising, so that type of behavior
might be typical of Murphy.  And some folks think
that spaying actually increases dominant/aggressive
behavior in bitches that were dominant/aggressive
beforehand, so perhaps marking behavior also
increases in those bitches."

Sally Hennessey

From: "The Puppy Wizard"
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:17:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Tara and Sally, kindred spirits in dog killing

PATHETIC, eh Soup?

"@d o g t v dot com" <""m i c h e ae l \

Sally Hennessey

I had a Dalmatian like that.  Better ban Dals, huh?
Sally Hennessey

===========

YOU MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD Dalmatian...

"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.  I volunteered
as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
unwanted animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
to that problem," Mustang Sally.

"Sally Hennessey" <greyho...@ncweb.com> wrote in message

news:54nuetsqgkhp26qqv128jnumgmb2m27opr@4ax.com...

Nope.  No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.

I'm starting to see some similarities here.

Sally Hennessey

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:23:46 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 9 2001 5:23 am
Subject: Re: shock collars

Sally Hennessey <greyho...@ncweb.com> wrote in message

news:b8m1dtsv6vuiblo63h8ekqiforibadrff2@4ax.com...

Aside from being incredibly offensive and self-righteous,
this post shows and absence of knowledge in the differences
in dogs' temperaments, or perhaps a lack of ability to perceive
same.  The fact that you, Alison, have never met a dog to whom
corrections and discomfort, even pain, were unimportant does
not mean that such dogs do not exist.

What it means is that you don't know as much about dogs
as you think you do, and you surely don't know a damn
thing about Harlan or anyone else's dog here.

I had a Dalmatian that would instigate fights with one
of her housemates; that dog had no fear or anything,
and pain incurred during a fight meant nothing to her.

I know that that dog is not unique, and I'm sure many
people here can tell similar stories.  The fact that you,
Alison, continue to say things to people such as what
you said to Theresa about causing her dog to suffer
(at least I guess that's what you meant by "you cause
your dog suffers" - - must be the King's English you
guys talk about over there) means that you are an
ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person who is not worth
further notice.
        Sally Hennessey

From: sighthounds etc. <greypigho...@ncweb.com>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:34:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Another Rebellion Stage?
On Wed, 29 May 2002 09:03:13 -0500,

Gwen Watson <g...@ig.utexas.edu> wrote:

It's true that circumstances do change, and people
can't do what they could before.  Definitely it would
be better for someone to exercise the dog than no
one, and I didn't mean to suggest that if the owner
can't do it, then no one should.  I meant that one
should not get a dog requiring lots of exercise and
mental stimulation if one cannot meet those needs.

IOW, Leah shouldn't have gotten a BC with the
understanding that her husband would take care
of the exercise and training needs.

However, Leah said that it was actually her husband
who wanted a BC, and he promised to exercise and
train her.  I guess it depends on one's experience;

IME, I'm the one doing the training, so next time my
DH wants a Dalmatian and promises to train it, I won't
believe him.

Sally Hennessey

"My spayed Siberian bitch marks and covers all
over the place, as did my spayed Dalmatian bitch.
The Borzoi doesn't, but she is *extremely* submissive."

Sally Hennessey

"Oops, hit "send" too fast.  Of course bitches in
season are advertising, so that type of behavior
might be typical of Murphy.  And some folks think
that spaying actually increases dominant/aggressive
behavior in bitches that were dominant/aggressive
beforehand, so perhaps marking behavior also
increases in those bitches."

Sally Hennessey

I didn't mean to suggest that we don't love our
poop-eaters; of course, we do.  If we were on
that show (The Secret Shame...), we would be
seen frantically dodging leaping Whippets trying
to plant kisses as close as possible to our mouths.

And I will admit that the night Robin barfed up poop,
he spent the night in his crate, not in bed with us.

Just couldn't chance a recurrence.

Sally Hennessey

Sighthounds etc." <greypigho...@ncweb.com> wrote in message

news:2oo30vco39kba31kfhfjv691ghm6c78giq@4ax.com...

Dalmatian that would position himself behind
the Greyhounds and catch...Being a Dal, he
was sometimes a little harder to love to begin
with.

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To  Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."

From: sionnach (rhyfe...@email.msn.com)
Subject: Re: Correct use of prong collar
Date: 2001-05-05 13:03:14 PST

 Um, may I suggest a re-wording that might make
 it  clearer- given that "scruff shake" is too easily
 misinterpreted as "pick the puppy up by the scruff
 of the neck and shake the puppy in the air"?

 I think I'd phrase it something like "if the puppy is very
 persistant, it  can be appropriate to take hold of the
 loose skin at the back of the neck and give a slight
 shake to the *skin*".

 Janet's not talking about actually shaking
 the puppy, which I think we ALL agree is
 abusive."

"Marshall Dermer" <der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message

news:a3h5qn$mra$1@uwm.edu...

You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"

"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A Dog
 I Do Not Believe There Is A Single Circumstance
 Ever, Where Slapping A Dog Is Anything But
 Destructive," "I don't see why anyone would want
 to choke or beat a dog, or how any trainer could
 possibly get a good working dog by making them
 unhapper, fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying
 frosty dahl.

amy lying frosty dahl continues:

"On the other extreme, the really ard dogs
 we have trained require much more frequent
 and heavy application of pressure (PAIN j.h.)
 to get the job done,

This is continued resistance to your increasing
authority, and the job is not done until it is overcome

Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper wield
the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,  less tractable
dogs may require you to progress to striking them
more sharply

Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and
the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist!
Eventually, the dog will give in

but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their
efforts to escaping the ear pinch

You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell
instead of your thumb even get a studded collar
and pinch the ear against that

Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so
urgent that resisting your will fades in importance.

CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever Ready
Right Hand,  As it catches on, try using the stick
and no ear pinch.

When the dog is digging out to beat the stick
and seems totally reliable without any ear pinch,
you are finished

If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly under the chin,
say "No! Hold!"

(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps because
the ear is getting tender, or the dog has decided
it isn't worth it)" lying frosty dahl.

"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
 professora gingold.

  terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
 "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
 something you twisted out of context, because you
 are full of bizarro manure."

lying frosty dahl sez she doesn't twist:

"None of my posts, prior to or subsequent to
Jerry Howe's attacks, encourage anyone to
twist ears, beat dogs, confront, intimidate,
frighten, or any of the crap he constantly
attributes to me," lying frosty dahl.

BWEEEEAHAHAHHAAA!!!

       "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
       Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
       With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
       discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.

Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies
HURT all their lives like HOWE HOWER dog
lovers PREFER to HURT THEIR DOGS?

"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.

We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...

Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should
knee the dog in the chest, step on its toes, throw
him down by his ears and climb all over it like a
raped ape growling into his throat and bite IT on
his ears, or leash pop it on a pronged spiked pinch
choke collar or pop him in the snout with the heel
of your palm.

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

"Rocky" <2...@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message

news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133.1.4...

         > Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

         > > When you compare using sound and
         > > praise to solve a problem with using
         > > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
         > > how can you criticize the use of sound?

         > There's nothing more to be said, then.
         > You've made up your mind.

         > But you've impressed me by mentioning
         > that you're a professor with 30 years of
         > experience.

         > So, can you cite some examples of
         > people recommending "shock collars,
         > hanging, and punishment"?
         > --
         > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!