Hello,
My Daughter is currently completing a ND in Animal Management at Pen
Coed college Bridgend. She has obtained straight distinctions over the
two years. Her main aim was to become a Veterinary Nurse, however, by
studying this course she is now even more drawn to a career as a
Veterinary Surgeon.
To this end I have a few questions. She has the opportunity to now
study a two year HND in Animal Management, again at Pen Coed college
Bridgend, however, I believe she needs 3 A Levels to attempt a
Veterinary degree. Is there any way after the HND she could go on to a
Veterinary degree ? The outcome of the answers here will dictate which
way to go, either back to college to complete A Levels or continue with
the HND. The HND is her preffered method as this is pure exposure once
again to animals.
She has many hours of outside work in Veterinary practices, Kennels,
catteries, farms and looking after horses, all obtained over many years
due to her love of animals, so she has proven her dedication.
I would dearly love to help her as much as I can, although at this
moment this is all I can do. Any help/advice would be greatly
appreciated.
VetinNZ - 24 Apr 2006 04:31 GMT
I would encourage you to contact the vet schools directly about this rather
than making a decision based on replies you might hear on this site or you
could end up making a choice that doesnt help your daughter. You need to
know the views of the people who make these decisions. Generally however a
good academic background in the sciences is needed rather than lots and lots
of experience with animals.
good luck
> Hello,
>
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> moment this is all I can do. Any help/advice would be greatly
> appreciated.
VetinNZ - 24 Apr 2006 04:41 GMT
Just thought I'd add some more comments. Contrary to popular opinion it is
not the love of and dedication towards animals that gets people into vet.
Being a vet is more about working with people than animals. You need to love
working with and helping people. Empathising with the owners and showing
them compassion by helping them cope with their pets problems is by far the
most important part of our job. Yes we do also love the animals we treat but
that is not enough on its own. It is people skills that makes a great vet
who loves their job.
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> Hello,
>
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> moment this is all I can do. Any help/advice would be greatly
> appreciated.
John Hasler - 24 Apr 2006 22:35 GMT
> Empathising with the owners and showing them compassion by helping them
> cope with their pets problems is by far the most important part of our
> job.
I'll deal with my emotional problems. The vet's job is to treat the horse.
I'd rather have my animal healed than have my hand held while it dies.

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Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA
diddy - 24 Apr 2006 23:14 GMT
>> Empathising with the owners and showing them compassion by helping
>> them cope with their pets problems is by far the most important part
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> horse. I'd rather have my animal healed than have my hand held while
> it dies.
I agree, but the trend is for vets to spare owner stress by whisking the
animal away and treating it in another room.
It's MY animal, And I stress MORE with it out of sight, imagining the
worst. I feel if the vet feels they have the right to deny my companionship
of the pet, they should reduce the bill for denial of companionship and
anxiety.
In that case, I feel the vet should also accomodate owners.
If my pet IS dying, I want it's final moments with me when it passes, and
not someplace sterile of love away from me, for its own good
sighthounds & siberians - 25 Apr 2006 01:39 GMT
>>> Empathising with the owners and showing them compassion by helping
>>> them cope with their pets problems is by far the most important part
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>of the pet, they should reduce the bill for denial of companionship and
>anxiety.
Fortunately, my vet recognizes that my animals also stress more when
we're at the vet's and I'm out of sight. Though one tech actually
thought I was going to let her take my dog back for a blood donation.
Not likely.
Mustang Sally
buglady - 25 Apr 2006 12:31 GMT
The vet's job is to treat the horse.
> I'd rather have my animal healed than have my hand held while it dies.
.............You're assuming the two are mutually exclusive.
buglady
take out the dog before replying
John Hasler - 25 Apr 2006 14:28 GMT
I wrote:
> I'd rather have my animal healed than have my hand held while it dies.
Buglady writes:
> You're assuming the two are mutually exclusive.
Dying and being healed are mutually exclusive, yes.
My point is that I will not employ a vet who considers comforting me more
important than curing my animal.

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Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA
VetinNZ - 25 Apr 2006 17:58 GMT
You misunderstand me john. its not about comforting you but about finding
out about what outcome you expect or want and how to achieve that. It is
about listening to people and helping them make decisions about their pets
welfare. A good vet ensures the owner feels comfortable with whatever
decisions are made despite the outcome. If your horse dies then you should
be left with the knowledge that you and your vet tried everything
practically possible or that your decision to euthanase was the right choice
for you. If your horse survives then you should not be left with a bill
beyond what you were prepared to spend on saving your horse. You should feel
comfortable with and not guilty about making a decision to euthanase if the
cost far excedes what you can or want to afford. It is these issues that a
vet needs to deal with in an empathetic and compassionate way.
> I wrote:
> > I'd rather have my animal healed than have my hand held while it dies.
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> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI USA
buglady - 25 Apr 2006 12:37 GMT
Yes we do also love the animals we treat but
> that is not enough on its own. It is people skills that makes a great vet
> who loves their job.
............Yes! When I used to take my dogs to a big Univ. vet school for
treatment, I ran into more than one student who should only be treating pet
rocks, as they had no social skills at all. One in particular, because she
seemed to not like people, came to the absolute wrong conclusion about what
was going on with my dog, blaming me instead of using her brain.
...........The client is both the pet and the owner. The better a vet's
people skills are, the better treatment the pet is liable to get.
buglady
take out the dog before replying