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From: The Annals Of  Human And Animal Behaviour Forensic Sciences
Research Laboratory

Subject: Dogs Trust - odd management attitude - stupid rules at animal
shelter

Neil wrote:
Hi,

Hi,

Got to get this off my chest!

After the loss of my rescue dog Jet last year, I had been volunteering
2 days a week as a dog walker at my nearest rehoming centre -
Kenilworth.  However one morning in October I was summoned into the
manageress's office whereupon I was told that it had been brought to
the attention of the manageress that I had been allowing some of the
dogs temporarily in my care(i.e. walking them off site) to get too
close to other dogs in the care of other staff and volunteers.
Indeed, a big issue was made of this, with references to past
litigation cases and the like.

Well, to say I was completely dumbfounded would be an understatement
and like a bolt out of the blue!  Reason being that there have been no
incidences of dog/dog, or dog/person aggression whatsoever with any of
the dogs I have been in charge of as a result any failing on my part.

I left the office totally gob smacked, and it was only a few hours
later back at home, when I'd managed to collect my thoughts
sufficiently, that I was able to contact the centre by fax to ask who
had made these accusations; when these incidences had taken place; and
why hadn't I been told or warned at the time.

To cut a long story short, I have tried various avenues in pursuit of
any details to substantiate the accusation.  However, to date I have
been unable to get any factual details at all to allow me to determine
what I have done, and take steps to correct it.  To the best of my
knowledge, I have at all times complied with any and all instructions
given to me by the centre's staff, and as yet no-one has given me any
reason to believe otherwise!

Obviously I have stopped all voluntary work for Dogs Trust, as I my
work is somehow substandard(although just how is unknown).  Also I
have now diverted any further financial support for the charity until
they are prepared to substantiate their accusation against me.  Their
loss is the RSPCA's and the East Midlands Dog Rescue's gain.

I'd love to share with you all, some of the ridiculous comments and
statements that have emerged from both the Kenilworth rehoming centre,
and the head office of Dogs Trust, but would take up too much space
here I think.

If this happened to you, what would you do?

Neil

(Reply via NG please)

From: The Annals Of  Human And Animal Behaviour Forensic Sciences
Research Laboratory

Subject: stupid rules at animal shelter

HOWEDY Crystal aka starrkssd,

starrkssd@aol.com wrote:

You mean The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{): ~ ) >
Of curse, any other posters are invited to reply so
long as they can suffer the consequences of gettin
choked by The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard
with their own wrtitten words <{); ~ ) >

You KNOW The Amazing Puppy Wizard don't LIKE "rules".
ALL rules are STUPID EXXXCEPT the RULES OF BEHAVIOR
as taught in your own FREE COPY of The Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual <{); ~ ) >

OtherWIZE, We should govern HOWErselves
accordin to HOWER CONSCIENCES <{); ~ ) >

THAT'S INSANE. Dogs DON'T LIKE to be CHOKED.
THAT'S HOWE COME most dogs GET temperament
and behavior problems <{):* ~ ( >

You'll have to teach them HOWE to pupperly handle their
dogs, Crystal. You'll have to DEMONSTRATE the opposition
reflex aka positive thigmotaxis and HOWE ANY contact on
the body inhibits the dog from BEING ABLE to THINK and
CON-TROLL hisself and obey commands, just like HOWE you
was taught.

THAT'S INSANE. ALL temperament and behavior problems
are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING, like CHOKE COLLARS and so
called CLICKER trainin, for EXXXAMPLE:

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific
Management Of Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

"All animals learn best through play." -- Konrad Lorenz

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING THEORY
model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse,
Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966)."

"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS were
moved to a delayed contingency the behavoir and learning
immediately deteriorated.

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

Kanner (1954) reports that 13 classically autistic
children improved enough to go to school without
"anything that is regarded as good psychotherapy or
as psychotherapy at all..."

Autistic children have been known to become permenantely
social by deinstitutionalization, BY REMOVAL from the parents,
BY RADICAL CHANGES in other environments, and by MASSIVE
DOSAGE of TOUCHING, HOLDING, FONDLING LOVE DESPITE
THE REJECTION OF THE CHILD."

You might want to start by DEMONSTRATING the installation
of the come command as a CONDITIONAL REFLEX and EXXXPLAIN
and DEMONSTRATE HOWE we can EXXXTINGUSIH ANY undesirable
BEHAVIOR in just four repetitions in four different situations
and teach them HOWE COME their Nazi and BRIBERY METHODS
GET DOGS AND PEOPLE HURT and DEAD:

                ALL Critters Only Respond In
             PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
                 INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
      To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                  Which We Create For Them.

             You GET The Critter You TRAINED

            In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
                      FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
                      SAME SAME SAME SAME,
           For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

         Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
              We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
                 And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

As you KNOW from your own HORRIBLE EXXXPERIENCE,
so called traditional training IS THE CAUSE of
almost all temperament and behavior problems.
The remaining problems are CAUSED BY traditional
veterinary malpractice <{): ~ ( >

THAT'S HOWE COME The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard has
been workin RHOWEND the clock RIGHT HERE to IDENTIFY
EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT the reincarnated (if you believe
in that stuff) Nazis who LOVE jerking choking and shocking
dogs and TRY to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin <{): ~ ( >

THAT'S what's been goin on here on The Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Forums. We got PSYCHOTICS who'l DO and SAY ANYTHING
to DEFEND THEIR ALLEGED RIGHT to HURT INTIMIDATE and
MURDER innocent defenseless dumb critters to compensate
for their own fragile defective egos, weak fearful
minds and colossal inferiority complexes <{): ~ ( >

I think Kay Pierce lives nearby you. I've talked
EXXXTENSIVELY with her on the phone as I did you:

"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.

From: <BNTDOBES#aol.com> (replace the # with @)
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net>

Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Head Hunter

Dear Jerry,

Just thought I would write to let you know
how well Hunter is doing.

He had been trained using the conventional
methods for obedience. He had gotten used
to a choker and a pinch collar.

Alot of pain and a lot of jerking around.

I had also tried using positive reinforcement
methods that I had been trained in.

He was so busy looking for the treat
that he didn't really want to work.

So I went back to using the pinch collar
on him and also a gentle leader when
we were in public.

Slowly by degrees his behavior got worse
and he did deserve his reputation as a
vicious dog.

The vet had recommended that he be put down.

I was in a panic when I found your web site.

Thanks!

He is now the happy dog that I first started
out with 5 years ago.

I am a professional trainer and it was
distressing to me that I could not help
my own dog.

I had been told that some dogs don't respond
to any kind of training and that a vicious dog
can never be trusted again.

I disagree!

Hunter is a sight hound and now I
can take him with me and he doesn't
chase cars as much anymore which
is one of his main problems.

We are working on the dog aggression thing.
And I am confident that will be successful too.

I also have your BIOSOUND machine and
that too is working good.

I know of several rescue groups that would
benefit from it.

This is rather long I know but it comes
from the heart.

My Head Hunter Green and I have been
together along time and have been through
so much together.

Thank you for helping me save his life.

Kay Pierce

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From: BNTDO...@aol.com To:

jho...@bellsouth.net Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM

Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always Be Given
The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL GUILTY For Having
An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that
maligning you and your training manual but tell them
from me that it does work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over
there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him
for growling at me. I told her to tell him what a good boy he
is instead. Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could do
his nails.

All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method
and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten
his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more
pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day.

Major break through.

This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids
through the fence. I can now take him in the car with me again
without him trying to chase cars through the windshield.

So Jerry tell these people that the
first rule of dog training is:

Do No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first
rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was
diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and
by my side where he belongs.

Thank you so much. Kay

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My methods GET 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS
for ALL CRITTERS and ALL handlers ALL OVER the WHOWEL
WILD WORLD, BAR NONE.

I've got PLENTY of SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE and CASE HISTORY
DATA PROVING EVERYTHING I've taught you that I had to
learn by the seat of my pants under the shade tree workin
with giant breed dogs who were considered untrainable and
TOO DANGERHOWES TO LIVE accordin to "the BEST trainers" in
the business, many of them having  been through four or
five trainers just like you and Starr pryor to meetin The
Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{): ~ ) >

Valerie wrote in on 5/31 with a 3 y.o. Dalmatian
who'd spent two years in a shelter gettin beat up
by other dogs.

When Val took him to her HOWES he became aggressive
to dogs and children and snapped at her when she tried to
stop him from attacking.

Val writes Monday, 6/3/02:

Well, for what it's worth, I am praising without
physical contact and she does seem to listen
better than when I would praise with it.  I agree
that it is a distraction.

Anyway, no more aggressive behaviors from
her since I started the Wits' End on 5/31.

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From: Seeing Spots \(Val\) (Holme...@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: Re: Dear Wits End
Date: 2002-06-04 18:19:07 PST

HEY!!!

There is a Valid Valerie with a REAL Dalmatian
who is a real sweet dog with a few issues that I
am working to resolve after adopting her from a
shelter she spent 2 years in.

All I want is to get some decent help for my dog.

There is some decent stuff in Jerry's manual.
My dog has ACTUALLY been responding to
her training.  The deal is you have to seperate
your opinions and impressions from the guy
who is writing these posts and take from the
manual what you want.

Personally, I get a pretty good chuckle out of
the whole Jerry thing.  I have to say the guy
is pretty clever, you're letting him get under
your skin.

It makes for a very amusing game I think.

I'm sure he would agree, or he wouldn't be playing
everyday.  He also wouldn't be playing if he didn't
believe that his method of training weren't valid.

Perhaps I'll learn from my mistakes, but so far,
using the Wits' End, I have gotten my dalmatian
to listen to me, to look to me for direction, to wait
for me to say when.

I have changed her from an aggressive dog to
one who is willing to please her owner, willing
to listen, willing to assume her role in the pack.

The real Valerie M. Holmes speaking

P.s. Jerry, don't get any ideas about morphing
      into me, ok?

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"Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

news:fS2Lc.114567$OB3.42357@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.

Tracy,

What worked for me, in just one storm,
was to praise the dog after each clap
of thunder, telling him he's a Good Dog!

This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.

 The next time it thundered, he did not even react at
 all--you could not tell it was the same dog as before.

There was more thunder just the other day, and same
thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no cowering, whimpering,
trying to hide at all, it was that simple.

I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem
to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-
abusive way of handling dogs WORKS.

Wonderfully.

Praise.

It's that simple.

Juanita

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Here's Nevyn, my Student from Austrailia, now a professional trainer:

"Nevyn" <greatd...@badmama.com.au> wrote in message

HOWEDY Group,

Here some SUCCESS STORIES ive had using JERRY'S MANUAL

1) My dogz, two bitches - Vicious, barking, aggressive, pulled
on leash, wanted to kill any dogs they saw, fought between
each other. TWO WEEKS using Jerry's manual, they were calm,
friends, my companions.

2) ADDED A BEAGLE PUPPY (male) to my "PACK", the
girls had -NO PROBLEMS- with him from the moment I
dropped him by their noses.

3) My FRIENDS dogs  2 MALES barking and jumping
at the fence all night 3 DAYS TRAINING WITH JERRY'S
MANUAL they were CALMED AND HAVEN'T BARKED ONCE!

Added a NEW MALE DOG (2 yrs old) AND
WELCOMED HIM WITH NO WUCKAS !

4) POODLE that ATE food from the KITCHEN BENCH -
lock him in a box? NO! USE JERRYS MANUAL! 4 DAYS
AND HES NEVER DONE IT SINCE!

5) ABUSED DOGS AT THE SHELTER I WORK AT -
HAD TO BE FED WITH A BUCKET ON  A STICK -
ONE WEEK ON JERRYS MANUAL, THE SUPERVISOR
TOLD ME TO PUT THEM IN THE PUBLIC KENNELS
FOR SALE !

Quite amazing to - I thought they were just dull coloured
dogs, but after I had removed the fear and anxiety their
hairs coloured up amazingly.

6) STAFFY FEMALE who would NOT DROP HER
BALL! She carried it around all day and night - 3
DAYS on jerrys MANUAL and she now DROPS
it when u ASK her to!

BWHWHAHAHAHAAHA !!!!

Nevyn

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"Leprechaun" <Leprech...@attglobal.net> wrote in message

news:m01Hc.20882$uK.16329@twister.tampabay.rr.com...

 Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too.
 I took a rescued three year old beagle that
 had been kept outside all of its life that didn't
 even recognize or respond to its name to
 Jerry's home (That ugly cinder block shack???
 get real) and in just over one hour of working
 with the dog, he was coming on command
 (not a quickly as he does now, but still...) and
 walking with us on a loose lead.

His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called"
command and pack exercise WORK!

Well, he's been near mine, and done wonders for him.

You don't have to like him.  You don't have
 to agree with his methods, but as far as I
am concerned, I've never seen any other
training approach that was as fast and easy.

<<<< Rest of original post deleted >>>>

Ron Flanagan
Orlando, Florida

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"Zack Pellers" <ZackPell...@GUESSWHERE.cc>
wrote in message

dlin...@towson.edu (Derek) wrote in news:
697700b8.0405202039.5c737...@posting.google.com:

Your dog needs to be retrained. Contact Mr. Jerry Howe.

Http://www.DoggyDoRight.com

You can start by downloading the free training
manual available on the site above. I used it on
my 4 year old Fila Brasileiro.

When I first brought him home from rescue, he
was similar to the way you decribed your dog.
After using Mr. Howe's training method, the dog
was cured within 72 hours.

-Jack

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Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

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I'd be happy to talk to them if you'd like. Give
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       The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior
                        Never Change,
                 Or They'd Not Be Scientific
                     And Could Not Obtain
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                       A DOG Is A Dog;
                     As A KAT Is A KAT;
                   As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
                   As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
                 As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
            As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.

            ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems
                 Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
                         Therefore
               CAN BE CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY
                      Simply By Doing
           EVERYTHING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE
                           Of
                   HOWE WE BEEN TAUGHT
            By University Trained Behaviorists
                          And
                 Veterinary Malpracticioners

       "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
                  and you will know each other.
        If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
               and what you do not know you will fear.

                  What one fears, one destroys."
                     Chief Dan George

       "Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
       news:

       I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
       dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
       I do not know what started the problem but he came
       aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
       snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
       and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
       ad I took him with me everywhere.

       At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
       Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
       clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
       it was not working on his aggression problem.

       I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
       trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
       They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
       and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
       suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
       working as he was becoming more aggressive.

       I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
       away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
       on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
       use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

       I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
       ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
       LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
       University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
       had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
       gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
       have the people stop until he could get in control using
       treats, and work on clicker training.

       At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
       the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
       would not come when I called him and would run away when
       I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
       neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
       hasn't trained her dog"

       I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
       were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
       were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
       said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
       say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
       responsible for him."

       *(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
       DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

       As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
       going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
       Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
       Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
       He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
       not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

       The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
       I had been working for 18 months!

       Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
       from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
       I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
       blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
       can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

       I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
       -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
       looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
       on by.

       When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
       me like "you must be out of your mind"

       The results can make a believer!!!

       Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
       Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
       in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

       He just seemed to not notice any one.

       When people talked to him or ask his name he would
       look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

       I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
       enjoy life out in public.

       If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
       was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
       Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
       toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

       My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
       dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
       out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

       I know most people would have given up on him a long time
       ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
       but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

       I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

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       From: Linda Daniel
       To: Jerry Howe
       Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
       Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

       Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
       to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
       save so many lives.  I know at times I was so frustrated I
       thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
       have but many people would have.  The world just does not
       know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
       solve problems.

       We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
       -just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
       you could meet us would be great.  I drive so I would be
       happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

       We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
       right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
       scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
       would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
       to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

       He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
       those on rollerblades!  I have always used a gentle leader
       in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
       grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

       Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
       stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose.  He never
       pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
       a hard time getting him going--at times  I think he could
       smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

       I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

       I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
       walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
       a problem with other people and dogs.

       I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
       to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
       around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
       treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
       coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
       and not move until we backed away-

       - can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
       until I get his attention with treats.

       They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
       but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
       him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
       sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
       to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
       heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

                 ---------------------------

"George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop

Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.

This is not negative reinforcement.  Negative means no.

Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;

Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;

Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;

The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;

Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately turned off .

There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? --  too aversive.

I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's CUMULATIVE
RECORD.  Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.

NO PUNISHMENT.

Must pay attention to who is the animal?

His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog?  So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.

I suppose I could wire up a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than
the methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.

Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.

Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.

You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.

Fondly, Dr. Von

             ------------

Larry is a SCIENTIST who'd studied EVERY method
and talked to EVERY NOTED EXXXPERT AUTHORITY IN
THE BUSINESS:

     From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
  The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry

From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.

Mike

"Ama...@DCFWatch.com" wrote:

No, the dog learned that I would hold still
the second she began to pull.  She would pull
to go where *she* wanted.

Well if she wanted to stop and go in another
direction.. say to sniff my neighbors yard..

she learned if she wanted to do it I would stop
walking and she could go.. and if there wasn't
enough slack on her lead she would just pull me.

Then when she got done doing *her* thing, she woudl
heel.. smile at me and wait for me to say "let's go"
and finish *my* thing.  I would refuse to move .. i
looked like an idiot.. freezing mid walk for minutes
waiting for *my* dog to heel and give *me* permission
to go again.

I did the treats and the let's go... she got to do her
stuff and get a cookie.. if she even wanted the cookie.

I wound up calling Jerry.. as I have a half red nose
pit and half amstaff.. who is incredibly protective..

we had a new pup on the way.. and i needed help.. i
followed petsmarts trainnign guides.. memorized them...
and they *did* work, don't get me wrong.. but only
when my pet wanted a cookie or felt the cookie was
better than what she wanted.. which was not often.

She quickly learned to ignore my commands if she
could see my hands were empty.  So I called Jerry...
he chatted me for about an hour and a half.. gave me
his link... and even when i had probs intro'ing the
pup he called me withn i5 mins of my email for help
at 10pm on a sunday night.

One.. singular.. uno family pack exercise after
the hot and cold exercise and i could zig zag
down my street.. about face .. whatever.. and
never had tension.

two men were acrossed the street and she walked right
by them... ordinarily she'd snarl and protect us.

And in two days.. my dog.. who bit the puppy if he
even looked like he was going near my husband or kids..
is nursing him every hour.. cleaning him.. rough housing
gently.. and teaching him to go potty outside..

actually watches him to make sure he doesn't go in
the house... and has milk.. which is awesome since
she's 19 months old and has never had a litter.

She also has stopped barking non stop at our neighbor's
dogs and pig.. does not bark at eveyr car that drives by
and has stopped jumping on people.  she's even starting
to ignore our cat who has lived on her dome litter box
and our window sill (literally) for over a year and a half.

She also does her commands on cue..  and doesn't look for a treat.

                Punishment Deranges Behavior.
         "NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
                         EXCEPT
                  To DERANGE Behaviors.

Here's professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM NO! into ITS face for
five seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes contemplation"
dermer of the Department of ANAL-ytic Behavior at UofWI, pryor:

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

    And how do we know this aspect of his
    advice is right?

    Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
    His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

    (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
    few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
    ill-mannered, or just plain ill.­),

    --Marshall

      Marshall Lev Dermer/ Department of Psychology/ University of
       Wisconsin-Milwaukee/ Milwaukee, WI 53201/ der...@uwm.edu
                    http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
       "Life is just too serious to be taken entirely seriousyl!"

From: der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall Dermer) -
Date: 1998/08/28
Subject: Re: Puppy growls and snaps

In article <6s6ea0$8c...@uwm.edu> der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall
Dermer) writes: In article <35E60819.65178...@pilot.msu.edu>

"Oops!  I would start by only holing her mouth
shut for say 5 sec.

At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

P.S.  Contacting Dr. P:

Please note that due to the large number of
requests I receive, I can no longer give free,
personal advice on problems related to dog
training and behavior.

In order for me to give such advice we would
have to "talk" about the problem at length.

That is, I would need detailed information about
the dog, it's environment and routine, the problem,
and the situation in which the problem occurs.

Thus, this type of consultation takes time which
I cannot afford to give away for free.

If you wish such advice, please see the information
I have provided about my K9 Behavioral Consulting
practice. Another alternative to obtaining personal
advice is to participate in e-mail, chat room, &
newsgroup discussions.

P.P.S. BWEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

               YOU'RE FRAUDS, drs p. and dermer!

             Either DEFEND your LIES, ABUSE And
             Degrees or get the heel HOWETA THIS
                      BUSINESS.

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400

Dear Jerry,  I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.

I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University.  I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.

There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.

Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques.  Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology

Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:

   "We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
   Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
   God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
   Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent­,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts ­to
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer

Perhaps you should remind him / her of Starr's Story:

Starr's Story

To whom it may concern,

My name is Crystal Arcidy and I am the proud owner of a
beautiful 3 year old white German Shepherd named Starr.

I am writing to inform you of a training method that is
truly amazing. Starr is by nature very cautious and
fearful and because of this and my not knowing how
to handle it she became environmentally shy as well.

Before Starr came into my life I never would have
believed that a dog could be the way she was
unless it had been badly abused or trained to be
aggressive.

Now I'm finding out more and more that there are lots
of dogs with serious behavior problems who were never
abused, but mishandled.

Before I tell you about my experience with Jerry Howe,
Doggy Do Right, and  the Wits End Dog Training Technique
I would like to relate to you Starr's story so you'll have a
better understanding as to what I was dealing with:

Starr was three months old when I brought her home from
a local pet shop. A  few days later a friend came by to see
her and that was when I first saw that Starr was by no
means friendly.

She was so shy she tried to pull away and hide. I was told
that dogs go through a "fear stage"  and thought that was all
I was dealing with. But after a week or two Starr began barking
protectively at  guests and neighbors from inside the house.

The only way I could stop the barking, and later howling, was
if I picked her up and held her.

Outside Starr's behavior was not protective it was horribly
fearful. It got  to the point that when I would ask, "You want
to go outside?" Starr would run the other way and dodge me
so I would make her go.

She went out only to relieve herself and then she'd dash back
to the house. I could not take her for walks and she wouldn't
even sit on my back deck without crying.

Starr was afraid of other dogs, people, cars, loud noises, open
spaces....everything. I was sure that she had the potential of becoming
a fear biter and that worried me.

I spoke with an amateur dog trainer who said that shepherd's
are sometimes fearful as puppies, especially females, and
that training and socializing would help. She said I could bring Starr
to the vet and just sit with her so she could watch the other dogs. But
Starr was a  nervous wreck in the vets.

She would get in a corner and shake terribly. It didn't seem
like it was helping at all with my dog's anxiety and I asked
the vet what to do to get her over her fears.The doctor
recommended a trainer/behaviorist and we called and set
up a meeting. And so I took Starr to her first trainer at six
months old.

She was terrified. The trainer assured me that he could
'get her through' her fears. He explained to me how training
would lessen Starr's anxiety and build confidence.

Because Starr was so timid he wanted to start out with
clicker training. He said it was the best form of training for
shy dogs.

He instructed me to get a thin three foot stick to be the focus, the
object being Starr would learn to follow the stick. Every time she
touched it with her nose she got a click and a treat.

After I got Starr home it only took about a minute for Starr to get the
idea. But these results were restricted to inside my house.  When I
took
Starr outside or to her lessons  she was just too nervous to care about
eating. The reward was not worth it.

All Starr wanted was to get back  to the house, where she
felt safe. When the trainer realized that Starr was too
uncomfortable at his place he  suggested we meet and
work at my house.

It was then that he saw that Starr was not going to
progress using the clicker training. [Forcing food into
her mouth didn't make her want to eat it] So he reverted
to conventional methods.

*(The "BALANCED TRAINER" IOW, knows WHEN to HURT... jh.)

We started using a flat collar but with all the pulling Starr
would do the  trainer quickly advised me to purchase a choke
chain. I did so and he showed me how to use it. I was very
hesitant but he assured me that I could not hurt the dog.

We continued working in an area Starr was pretty
comfortable in, then proceeded out to the street.  Starr was
very scared and would bolt, whine, shake horribly and grind
her teeth. All of which got corrected by a quick, sharp jerk on the
chain and a firm "No!"

Of course now I know that these firm corrections were just
creating more anxiety for my dog. But at the time it seemed
to make sense.

After seeing how afraid Starr actually was on the street the
trainer told me to get some Serene-um, an herbal product
that would calm her down. It took the edge off her fear, but
I had to give her beyond  the dosage recommended for her
weight. The trainer said that was fine. He also told me that
putting her on adult food would help. That  way she wouldn't
have as much energy that was just being turned into nervous
energy and making her worse. I changed her food and he
later recommended senior food. I decided against that.

The trainer told me not to speak reassuringly when Starr
was scared because she would think she was being praised
for being afraid, that I wanted that behavior. He told me never to
praise her for barking because it would encourage aggression.

When Starr would bark at the neighbors dog aggressively
I was to force her into a submissive down, the Alpha Rollover,
which I was never able to maneuver.

I told the trainer that Starr was still uncontrollable even with the
choker.  Her fear seemed more important than the pain
she experienced from the collar. He suggested getting  her
a Gentle Leader. Its worn around the dog's head. I'm sure
you're familiar with the product. This gave me more control
over her bolting but when she got spooked by something
she would pull away and reared up like a wild horse.

It was very difficult to get her to calm down even a little after she
had gone to this extreme.  I later found out that I was misdirected on
how to use the Gentle Leader.

After about seven months of this Starr had made very little
progress. She knew all the commands and would do them
perfect when calm, but the fear and anxiety were still there
and still very much in control of her.

The trainer thought she was all right and told me he was
happy with the results. At that point I was hardly listening to
anything
he said.  I knew he was trying to help but I also knew that Starr was
beyond him and I had already set up a meeting with another trainer, one
that came highly recommended.

The second trainer referred to her place as doggy boot camp
and said that kind of discipline and structure is what dogs,
especially  dogs like Starr, really needed. She was a breeder
of German  Shepherds and several of her dogs were used in
movies and as therapy and protection dogs.

*(Our "ETHICAL" breeders... jh.)

She told me that Starr needed to get away from me, her
'security blanket' and learn to be on her  own. She told me
that when I got Starr back she would be a totally different dog.

I left Starr for eleven days with this trainer. When I went to
pick her up I was informed that Starr had been hiding for the
first  three days of her stay. But the trainer was happy with
her progress.

When Starr was brought out I was told to ignore her until
the trainer said it was okay and even then I couldn't pet
her or kneel down to see her. [I still don't know why.] My
formerly 65 lb. German Shepherd looked like a Greyhound
she was so thin.

But she did look much more confident. Her face seemed
relaxed, but her tail was tucked up  under her. When I asked
about that the trainer said it was nothing. She said her tail
was not suppose to curl up the way it did.  I was then informed that I
needed to buy a pinch collar and leather leash.

Starr was too strong and determined in her pulling for me to
get by with just the choker. [ This trainer laughed at the Gentle
Leader
and said it was not a training tool.]

The trainer showed me how to use the collar and I flinched as
she did and Starr let out a  sharp cry.

The trainer noticed my reaction and insisted that she wasn't
hurting my dog, saying that I have to stop treating Starr like a 'piece
of china', saying that she was a strong dog and needed to be told who
was boss.

I accepted what she said and she proceeded to teach me
all that she had taught Starr. She used the word 'Here' instead of
'Come' saying that it sounded nicer to the dog and more inviting. I was
told that its  best if when called Starr comes right up close,
attaining
physical contact.

Everything seemed to be going well, though I wouldn't have
said she seemed like a different dog, until the trainer left to get
Starr's old collar for me. When she returned Starr lunged and barked
aggressively.

It took me completely by surprise. I did not know why she
was acting so aggressive. The trainer took the leash and
gave Starr a strong reproof for that and explained to me
that some dogs [big nasty ones, she said] acted like that
when the owners came to get them  because they were
afraid, on seeing the trainer, that she would take them
away from their owners again.

This trainer also instructed me to 'punish' Starr by ignoring
her for a half hour or so after she had been corrected for
something very bad or if she did not do good working for
me one day. She said that dogs remember when they do
bad and that she'd learn to try harder to please me.

So I took my skinny little shepherd home and for two months
worked with her everyday exactly as I was told. Starr's
anxiety was still profound and she still was not happy to
go for a walk or to stay outside.

She was more confident, but only in areas of aggression,
territorialism, and being possessive of me. [She did not like
it when my cat came into my room.] I called the trainer to ask
about barking collars and she told me which one to buy.

After I got it she showed me how to use it saying it must be
tight. She said it would help with Starr's aggression as well as the
barking. And for a while it was much quieter in my house.

I did not like the way the collar sometimes made Starr cry
and I really didn't like how if my two dogs were real close
the other dog's bark would sometimes set it off. But it was
only temporary, I thought. I always checked for irritation on
my dog's neck but one day when I took the collar off I saw
that Starr had sores on her throat.

I kept the collar off until it was completely healed and then
used it only when I felt I had to, and only on the lowest setting.

*(HOWE COME all these stories sound alike??? jh.)

It wasn't long before I put it away and never used it again.
I made arrangements to bring Starr back to her second
trainer to work together and in exchange I would help taking
care of the other dogs -cleaning and feeding and such- but
it never worked out and I am so glad it didn't!

My next attempt to find help was after I read a pamphlet on
Ttouch. I thought, finally, this will help! I spoke to the Ttouch
practitioner and set up an appointment. She came to the
house and evaluated Starr.

She told me it would most likely take many sessions to
get Starr over her issues. The first thing she had me do
was change from the pinch collar to a flat collar the
second thing she had me do was put a T-shirt on my dog.

She likened the feel of shirt to getting a hug. Starr did seem to calm
down when she was wearing the T-shirt. Looking back I realize that
although Starr was calm she was far from happy and relaxed.

I wanted to work outside, thinking it would be easier on
my  dog since she got so upset when people came into
the house. But the Ttouch lady insisted we work inside
the house, saying that she had to get used to people
coming inside.

I went along with what she said, but after the aggression
brought out by the second trainer and the pinch collar
Starr was very difficult to handle.

Next the Ttouch person showed me a few different touches
to do on Starr. She demonstrated the touches on a large
stuffed animal I had because she couldn't get close to
Starr let alone to actually touch her.

She said that dogs keep all their stress in their tail and I
was instructed to do Ttouch on her tail. She showed me
what she called an ear slide that would help with car-
sickness and it worked.

Then she talked a lot about calming signals, yawning,
sighing etc.... Starr was uncomfortable with this strange
way of petting and cried a lot, but the lady informed me
that was normal.

The touches are designed to change the cellular memory and
Starr knew that this was not petting. It was a 'conscious touch'.

The weirdest thing was an effort to make Starr aware of her
body. She demonstrated on the stuffed animal [she was still
unable to touch Starr] how to wrap ACE bandages around
the animal's body so that as they moved they would feel it and
be aware of themselves. And then there was the hair elastics
around my dog's feet to give her a better awareness of her feet because
Starr was nervous walking on hard,smooth floors.

To address the problem I was having with Starr pulling on the
leash the Ttouch person instructed me to take the middle of
my six foot leash in my left hand and bring it up above
Starr's left shoulder, then place the length of the leash real
low across her chest and bring the handle  up above her
right shoulder and hold it in my right hand.

The plan was to keep her front legs from being able to move
fast enough to pull. But Starr easily backed out of this
arrangement and took off, bolting to the end of the lead.
I told the lady what was happening and she recommended
a harness.

After Starr was wrapped in bandages, wearing a T-shirt, a
muzzle and a harness we took her out-side.

Starr was not happy. I was not happy. But the Ttouch person
said it would help so we did it. After a month of this I gave up on
Ttouch and went back to the pinch collar with which I had at least some
control.

*(Sound typical, doesn't it... jh.)

I asked a friend to help simply by coming over and trying to
make friends with my dog. I kept a muzzle on Starr most of
the time and eventually my friend got to pet her, though Starr
was not comfortable with it.

My friend suggested that I give Starr Passion Flower and I tried it.

*(An EXCELLENT sleep aid... jh.)

At this point I had already tried a number of different herbs
and herbal mixtures that were especially for dogs.

The herbs didn't make enough of a difference and I thought
about putting her on Prozac or something  like it. I decided
against it because of fears of side affects and was back
where I started, except worse  because Starr was now
showing signs of aggression after working with that second
trainer.

I found another dog training place this one claimed to be
the 'Disney World for dogs'. I went down to talk to the
people there before putting Starr through it. One of the
trainers there told me that if my dog was over two years
old and still the way she was then she'd be like that forever.

I was extremely discouraged by that, but I wouldn't allow
myself to believe it was true. Needless to say Starr never
went to those trainers.

Ever since I realized that Starr was not a normal dog I've
been searching for a way to help her get over her fears.
It became the most important thing to me. I was sure that I
would find answers and I knew I couldn't give up. I knew I
couldn't live with her the way she was and I knew I couldn't
give her away so I just continued searching.

I read training and behavior books one after the other.
Some were very discouraging in what they had to say
about shyness in dogs. The last book I bought was
called "Help For Your Shy Dog" and it gave an example
of a dog in recovery from fear and  anxiety and it had
taken the owner/trainer five years to get to that point!

And the dog was still a work  in progress!

When I first decided to try Mr. Howe's machine I was
hopeful if not confident. I did not want to speak to him
at first because I did not want to hear what I heard from
the other trainers. I did not want to trust another trainer
only to be disappointed in the end.

I found Doggy Do Right on-line at a friend's house, got
the information and decided to give it a try. I noticed
within a few days, if that long, that Starr was calmer
when the  machine was on. Things would happen that
would normally upset her and she'd give one or two
barks and then give up.

When I saw her acting calm I'd look over at the machine
and every time, at first, it was on. After a little while of
using the machine along with the training technique
I'd check to see that the reason for her self-controlled
barking was that Doggy Do Right was on and I was
amazed to see that it wasn't.

I was like, "Wow, she's being so good and the thing
isn't even on!"  The tiny part of my crazy dog that had
some self-control, or some semblance of ease, was
growing stronger.

The training  and the machine were allowing Starr to
realize that not everything in the world is going to kill her.

As far as the training technique, it's gentle, fast, and
completely positive. Mr. Howe's approach to training is
so different from any other form of training that even after
reading his training manual I had to call and speak with
him in order to really understand his method and the
reasoning behind it and how to apply it with particular
situations with Starr.

I had many questions and  misconceptions because
of all the other training information I got and he took
time to explain everything.

He told me that all Starr's behavioral problems were
connected and that properly handling each one would
help the others. All the little things that I was ignoring
because, in comparison to Starr's main problems, they
seemed irrelevant I started working on, each thing she
worked  through helped to deal with the next.

Mr. Howe was very helpful and after putting a flat collar
back on my dog and working with her a few weeks I
saw a change in her general attitude. I was glad that
I was not to use a food treat with this system, knowing
that if food was the incentive it wasn't going to work for
my dog.

Starr was much happier and relaxed without the pinch
collar and her barking was much more controllable.
Starr, however was too difficult for me to handle and I
was not proficient at this new form of training and I
ended up taking her to meet Mr. Howe and he worked
with her.

I was surprised that Jerry was able to pet my dog let
alone work with her the first day.  For one week he
had her and the change in Starr was incredible!

She was happy and relaxed. She was willing to work
and she was much more comfortable being around
cars and people. We met on three occasions during
that week to work together and I learned so much.

The first time we got together to work Starr was much
more content and happy.  By the end of the session
Starr was willing to go with Jerry in his car.

This impressed me because of what happened when
Starr thought the second trainer she had was going to
take her away from her family.

But she was comfortable with Jerry and the reason
for that was the way he treated her. I  was amazed
while, on the last occasion that we worked together,
people walked by my dog without upsetting  her.

I was expecting her to bolt away but she didn't. She
was calm and confident as they passed, which, for her,
was a huge change.

The Wits' End Dog Training method is based on
distraction and praise. It focuses more on the thought
process than a dog following commands.

The dog  psychology Jerry has figured out and built
his method around is amazing.

I learned from him how to handle the leash in a way
so as to keep my dog calm.  He explained that because
of all Starr's past experience with training she was always
afraid of  being corrected. Tension on the leash is what
caused her to spook so I now keep the leash nice and slack.

He taught me how and when to praise in order to
encourage thought and instill confidence and trust.
His technique using the sound distraction and
exuberant praise gave me the answer to the endless
barking and the cat-chasing and all without stressing
out my hyper-sensitive dog.

Starr is a much happier dog and she has so much
more confidence in herself and in me as her handler.
I will never use any other form of dog training on any
dog I ever own/train.

Mr. Howe's approach to dog training has ended up
saving many mislabeled "bad dogs," turning them
into great pets and working dogs. I am recommending
this and only this  form of training to anyone with dogs
no matter what it is they want to accomplish with their dogs.

As you now know I have tried everything I could find
to help my extremely nervous, but wonderful dog and
this is the only thing that has really made a difference
in Starr's behavior and her general attitude.

As a dog lover and the owner of a so-called "lost
cause dog" I feel I must share with you my experiences
and advocate this system.

There is nothing better for disturbed  dogs and no
better way of preventing bad behavior then positive,
gentle training. I will recommend  nothing else and
never again will I use any other form of training,
discipline and behavior modification.

           Thank you for your time.
                 Sincerely,
               Crystal Arcidy

Subject: < BEFORE ->  "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
                     No Good Charlatan,"

< AFTER ->  "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
           A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
           Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
           Dog Lovers.

          'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
          A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.

Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?

Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman

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<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.

Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names.  Naive is thinking that dilettante  dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey  (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools?  I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===========

Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy,
"you insipid piece of cow dung!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                     ============

                    "A cheerful heart is good medicine,
                  but a crushed spirit dries up the bones".
                               Proverbs 17:22

                   Blessed are all who take refuge in HIM.

                Jerry 21 And unto this people thou shalt say,
                        Thus saith the LORD Of DOG;
                          Behold, I set before you
                              The Way Of Life,
                                   And
                             The Way Of Death.

            And Disciple Paulie said unto them, Thus shall ye
            say to your master, Thus saith The LORD Of DOG,
            Be not afraid of the words which thou hast heard,
            with which the servants of koehler and university
            trained behaviorists and veterinary malpracticioners
            have blasphemed me.

                            Disciple Paulie Sez:

         "No One Understands How Wits End Training Really
         Works,  They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey And don't
         Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That Deals With
         Any Situation  And  The  Foundation Is Built On Trust
         And Understanding.

         I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
         they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
         I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
         me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
         they always are, always.

        Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good
        dog" sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll
        find your dog thinking then responding everytime.
        A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies
        to every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

        Obedience and affection are not related, if they were
        everyone would have obedient dogs.

        I have found giving dogs "payment" in advance i.e. "Sam
        sit goodboy" makes the dogs want to respond, after all,
        all dogs want to be "good dogs" and if you tell them they
        are good then they feel an obligation to obey your request.

        Telling Sam he's a good dog AFTER he sit's apart from
        been too late is also a gamble because if he doesn't
        sit then there's no positive interaction.
                              Paul

           "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
                       I came not to send peace,
                             but a sword.
       "For I am come to set a man at variance against his father,
                   and the daughter against her mother,
             the daughter in law against her mother in law
                and the scholar against his professors.
         "And a man's foes shall be they of his own HOWEshold."
                     The Puppy Prophet <{); ~ ) >

                  All truth passes through three stages.
                         First, it is ridiculed.
                   Second, it is violently opposed.
              Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
                        -Arthur Schopenhauer

                 "Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
                     even tho it's a hopeless task,
                       in this system of things.
                    As long as man is ruling man,
                 there will be animals (and humans!)
                      abused and neglected. :-(
                       Your student," Juanita.

              "If you've got them by the balls their hearts
                        and minds will follow,"
                            John Wayne.

Yours,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092

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