HOWEDY matty you miserable lyin dog abusing punk thug coward
active acute chronic long term incurable mental case and illegal
professional doggy day care and agility FRAUD and SCAM ARTIST,
Rocky wrote:
> FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>
> > So what would you recommend we do to stop the behavior?
If matty knew HOWE to train dogs not to do "BAD BEHAVIORS"
he'd PUT HISSELF HOWETA his illegal doggy day care and
"agility" training business.
They go hand in glove on accHOWENT of hyperactive dogs NEED
activities like AGILITY to keep their minds occupied...
BWEEEAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!
> When my dogs are about to do anything inappropriate
> (like low threshold alarm barking),
That's MALARKEY. There AIN'T NO SUCH THING.
> and I can catch them at it before the
> behaviour itself becomes rewarding,
That's MALARKEY. There AIN'T no REWARD in ALARM
barkin unless the dog chases away the barkee <{); ~ ) >
matty's just having FUN strokin hisself <{): ~ ( >
> I use my marker word.
Like THAT for EXXXAMPLE.
> If I can catch them even earlier (when the intent to commit
> misbehaviour is forming in their evil minds), distraction works.
That so? Like thrownin a sock or a can at the dog, matty?
> The latter works better than the former
You mean the latter DON'T WORK nodoGdameneD better
than the former that DON'T WORK otherWIZE he'd be
able to EXXXTINGUISH inapupriate barking digging
garbage can raiding destructive chewing sofa sleeping
counter surfing HOWES FHOWELING and PUT HISSELF HOWETA
the illegal doggy day care business <{): ~ ) >
> when it comes to their protecting me from the mailman.
Oh, you can EXXXTINGUISH THAT simply by PRAISING him <{):~ ) >
But matty WON'T DO THAT on accHOWENT of he won't be able to
FEEL like he's IN CONp-TROLL like a Nazi death camp colonel.
> Management,
THAT'S MALARKEY.
> redirection,
Offering alternate incompatible behaviors REINFORCES
the behaviors matty and these ignorameHOWESES CAN'T
MANAGE <{): ~ ) >
> distraction,
Distraction DOES NOT WORK unless you follow the PRECISE
INSTRUCTIONS in your own FREE COPY of The Freakin Simply
Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
> aversives,
Aversives only make your dogs fear and hate you and
causes them to have SEIZURES and SELF MUTILATION <{): ~ ) >
THAT'S HOWE COME all these dog lovers dogs got "ALLERGIES".
> Paula's socks,
Used as an AVERSIVE throwin an otherWIZE harmless
sock or squirtin the critter with a water spray is
JUST AS HARMFUL as jerking choking and shocking them.
Ooops! According to these lyin dog abusing punk thug
coward active acute chronic long term incurable mental
cases there AIN'T NUTHIN WRONG with jerking choking and
shocking so long as it's a apupriate CORRECTION.
> combinations thereof -
Kinda like a orgy of INSANITY, matty?
> it's all good.
No it AIN'T "all good" matty, otherWIZE you'd be able
to EXXXINGUISH ANY "self rewarding" BEHAVIOR NEARLY
INSTANTLY just like HOWE ALL The Freakin Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students
REPORT RIGHT HERE <{): ~ ) >
> Anyway,
You mean anyHOWE you impudent maggot <{):~ ( >
AnyHOWE, THAT'S HOWE COME your own DEATHLY ILL
dog Rocky is DYIN from SEIZURES <{); ~ ) >
> to answer your question,
BWEEEEAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA!!!
> I don't know your dogs.
BWEEEEAAAAAHAHAHHAHAA!!!
> If Oppie was here and tried to hump Friday,
You'd have to MANAGE them or let Friday 'kick his a.s
and he stops for a little while but then starts again,'
just like HOWE it goes when The Freakin Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard kicks your arse, matty. HOWEver, The Freakin
Simply Wizard WANTS you to start again JUST SO HE CAN DO
IT AGAIN on accHOWENT of makin you LOOK LIKE A CHUMP is
SELF REWARDIN BEHAVIOR.
BWEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
> I wouldn't do anything
BWEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
> because Friday would correct him more appropriately than I ever could.
Like the original poste SEZ: "she has kicked his a.s
and he stops for a little while but then starts again,"
IT DON'T WORK nodoGdameneDMOORE than your "it's all good"
assault of REPRESSION and DISTRACTION techniques which
DON'T WORK on accHOWENT of you're a miserable lyin dog
abusing MAGGOT who'd LOSE HIS DOGGY DAY CARE BUSINESS
if you could train people's dogs to stay in their HOWES
alone. WOULDN'T YOU, matty <{): ~ ) >
> If Oppie showed the same interest in Rocky,
You wouldn't be able to train him not to.
> I'd separate them or watch them closely.
On accHOWENT of Rocky is FEAR AGGRESSIVE of dogs.
> After Oppie had been here for some time,
Like till heel freezes over, matty?
> maybe then I'd know him well enough to tell you
> how I'd stop ingrained unwanted behaviour.
THAT'S INSANE, matty. There AIN'T NO SUCH THING as "INGRAINED
UNWANTED BEHAVIORS" that can't be EXXXTINGUISHED TRAINED OR
MODIFIED NEARLY INSTANTLY if you understand effective non
physical Pavlovian and Ericksonian CONDITIONING.
> In the meantime, Bob Maida's advice
Your punk thug coward active acute mental case pal
booby maida (captain arthur haggerty's protege) is
a miserable lyin dog abusing punk thug coward like
yourself, matty. Only DIFFERENCE is he don't post
to The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Forums on
accHOWENT of he got hisself EMBARRASED TO DEATH.
> is still the best:
He don't post here nodoGdameneDMOORE on accHOWENT
of The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard made
him LOOK LIKE A CHUMP every time he posted <{): ~ ) >
> "Don't let him do that."
BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
And does that WORK any better than lettin your
dogs fight it HOWET: "she has kicked his a.s
and he stops for a little while but then starts
again," matty?
"I wouldn't do anything because Friday would
correct him more appropriately than I ever
could. I'd separate them or watch them closely.
If I can catch them at it before the behaviour
itself becomes rewarding, I use my marker word.
If I can catch them even earlier (when the intent
to commit misbehaviour is forming in their evil
minds), distraction works. The latter works
better than the former when it comes to their
protecting me from the mailman. Management,
redirection, distraction, aversives, Paula's
socks, combinations thereof - it's all good,"
matt. Rocky's my epileptic dog.
And THAT'S HOWE COME you can't post here abHOWETS
nodoGdameneDMOORE, you miserable freakin lyin dog
abusing punk thug coward active acute chronic long
term incurable mental case maggot <{): ~ ) >
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
HOWEDY bizby40,
bizby40 wrote:
> "Pauline O'Connell" <poconel@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:2FPJe.2690$zr1.465@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> > Thanks Rocky. I think this little guy is pretty hard headed -
> > yes, I meant shreiking in a loud way. The shreiking seems to
> > egg him on even more - it doesn't make him want to avoid us!
>
> > I neglected to mention that I have also tried ignoring him &
> > redirecting him. If I ignore him, by turning my back or walking
> > away, he starts nipping at my legs. If we redirect him, by giving
> > him a chew toy he enjoys it, only stops the biting for a few seconds,
> > before he gets back to biting the flesh. (Told you, we've been
> > trying everything:)) A friend stopped by today & said her son uses
> > a squirt bottle when his puppy bites & it seems to be working.
>
> > Any thoughts on that? He loves water & I hate
> > to turn him off water by using squirt bottle on him.
> >
> > Pauline
>
> My little guy is pretty nippy too.
You mean you got the same problem for the same reason,
don't you, bizby40. CuriHOWES AIN'T IT, HOWE you and
a few of them other DOG LOVERS with PUPPY BITING and
HOWEsbreaking problems done your DUE DILLIGENCE pryor
to gettin your puppys and DONE EVERY THING EXXXACTLY
PRECISELY as the MENTAL CASES whose posts you'd been
READIN and posting to here for a long time even pryor
to gettin your new PROBLEM puppys, told you to, AIN'T IT.
CuriHOWES AIN'T IT, HOWE ALL of you DOG LOVERS
GOT THE SAME SAME SAME SAME PROBLEMS which The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual Students NEVER HAVE, bizby40.
> I don't know if I'd call it biting exactly,
Well, you can just CHANGE THE WORDS bizby40.
> as much as puppy mouthing/chewing.
AND IT HURTS. THAT'S BITING, ain't it, bizby40.
> It seems like he always wants to be chewing on something.
Your dog is HYPERACTIVE and you've had him only a month or so.
> Nonetheless, it hurts,
But you AIN'T SHORE if THAT'S biting or not, bizby40?
> and isn't something we want to encourage.
YOU TAUGHT YOUR DOG TO DO THAT by followin the
ADVICE of these PROFITEERS who BILK dummies like
you HOWETA your HARD EARNED DOUGH to SELL you
their miserable books and TRAINING LESSONS and
DAY CARE for your HOWETA CON-TROLL puppys, bizby40.
> Mine only does it when we're actively playing,
Ahhh, so you KNOW WHEN he's gonna do it yet STILL
DON'T KNOW HOWE to EXXXTINGUISH ANY repeatable
predictable consistent behavior, like SHITTIN ALL
OVER YOUR HOWESES on accHOWENT of you lock them in
boxes and ignore their cries and spray aversives in
their faces and intimidate and choke them as your
own POSTED CASE HISTORY will reflect, bizby40.
> so I'm not sure the situations are equivalent.
ALL BEHAVIORS ARE THE SAME SAME, bizby40.
> What I've done is to make sure I always have a soft
> toy or his blanket there when I'm playing with him.
You mean as a REWARD for biting.
> As we play and he grasps around for something to
> chew on, I just make sure the toy is right there.
BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
> I don't let go of it though, because within seconds,
> he's dropped it and is looking for something else -
Like your hands or clothing...
> - I just give it right back to him.
You mean you REINFORCE the BAD behavior, bizby40.
> If he gets *too* wild, playtime is over.
You mean you LOCK IT IN A BOX and IGNORE his cries someMOORE.
> I just put him down.
Then he bites you.
> As he's too little to jump on the sofa, all I have
> to do is pull my legs up and I'm "safe." :-)
THAT'S HOWE we TRAIN ATTACK DOGS, bizby40.
> He does sometimes get my fingers
That VARIABLY REINFORCES his BAD BEHAVIOR.
> despite my best efforts,
You mean, doin what the EXXXPERTS TAUGHT YOU, bizby40?
> and I'll give a yelp when he does.
To HYPEREXXXCITE the pup, JUST LIKE HOWE we do
when ATTACK TRAINING a dog, eh bizby40? You got
the RIGHT INSTRUCTIONS but for the WRONG PROBLEM,
bizby40. You're TRAINING your dogs to ATTACK YOU.
> I don't know if I'm doing the right things or not,
You're DOIN FINE, bizby40. The Amazing Puppy Wizard
NEEDS YOUR POSTED CASE HISTORY to PROVE The Puppy
Wizard's SYNDROME, bizby40 <{): ~ ) >
> but he has calmed down a lot in the few weeks I've had him.
No bizby40, he was PERFECT when you got him just
a few weeks ago, and YOU RUINED HIM ALREADY JUST
LIKE HOWE you done your children, bizby40.
> It helps that he's a really smart puppy
INDEED?
> and already has a good idea of what he can, and cannot chew.
TILL YOU TURN YOUR BACK.
> Bizby
Got some BAD NEWS for you, bizby... you got MunchHOWESN
SYNDROME by Proxy, bizby40, JUST LIKE the rest of these
DOG and CHILD ABUSING MENTAL CASES GOT:
HOWEDY pauline,
Pauline O'Connell wrote:
> Thank you so much Matt. I've printed out your advise
You mean the ADVICE which The Amazing Puppy Wizard gives
when TRAINING DOGS TO ATTACK, pauline? THINK abHOWET the
"ADVICE" matty gave you. He told you to NOT REACT to your
puppy's BONDING BEHAVIOR by TURNING arHOWEND and IGNORING
IT for 3 seconds, to INCREASE ANXXXIHOWESNESS and TRIGGER
the VISUAL ORAL REFLEX, then QUICKLY GIVE the dog SUMPTHIN
to BITE ON as a REWARD for his BONDING BITING, pauline.
THAT'S PRECISELY HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard TURNS ON
new attack training students, pauline...
> & will work on the consistency.
INDEEDY! You'll NOTICE please, the CONSISTENCY with
which EVERY POSTER HERE GOT THE SAME PROBLEM, pauline.
Know WHAT THAt PROBLEM IS, pauline? You've all got
MunchHOWESEN SYNDROME by PROXY <{) :* ~ ( >
> I know he's just a puppy,
A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.
> he's learning so many other things so quickly,
ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
> I thought we just hadn't hit on the magic
> formula for the biting.
You mean, locking your dog in a box and jerking
and choking and ignoring her cries and denying
and withholding attention affection rewards and
unconditional love trust and respect and shreiking
and hurting and intimidating your dogs JUST LIKE
HOWE you do to your kids JUST LIKE HOWE your parents
and child psychologists taught you, pauline.
You Get The Critter You Trained
A Dog Is A Dog
As A Kat Is A Kat
As A Birdie Is A Birdie
As A Child Is A Child
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE
REFLEXIVE Ways
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.
> My husband says I pick him up too much & today,
> it dawned on me that he's probably right.
Yeah, TOO MUCH TLC, eh dog lovers?
> (He's so cute though.)
INDEED?
> When I sit at my computer or my sewing machine, he
> gets really yappy & snappy. I think it's because
> he can't get up on the chair with me & when I sit
> watching TV, he can fit on the chair with me - for
> a few more months anyway.
LIKE THIS:
CNYstitcher wrote:
5-Trying to baste a quilt while your 4yo is watching
is next to impossible because said child wants to "help"
From: "Pauline O'Connell" <poco...@pacbell.net>
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:02:46 GMT
Subject: Re: what next?
I'm sure you were sent very special children for a reason -
cause you're a very special mom, who will love & care for
your two like no other.
BWEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!
> He's a Brittany, so he'll be too big for sharing the chair
> with me. Tonight, I had a meeting to go to & when I left
> the house, I thought I heard him crying - my husband said
> he cried for a long time after I left, so I do think I've
> been babying him too much.
Right. Wouldn't wanna BABY IT too much...
> Thanks again for your advise - I'll keep you posted
> if we achieve success.
BWEEEEEEAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's
And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
> Pauline
> "Rocky" <2dogs@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
> news:Fri96ACCFA1480ABaustralianshepherdca@rocky-dog.com...
> > "Pauline O'Connell" <poconel@pacbell.net> said in
> > rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> >
> >> If I ignore him, by turning my back or walking
> >> away, he starts nipping at my legs.
> >
> > Don't walk away, just turn your back - go neutral on him and
> > don't give him *any* feedback for a count of 3. As soon as you
> > return your attention to him, you're all sweetness and light and
> > just happen to have a very interesting squeaky toy in your
> > possession.
>
> >> If we redirect him, by giving him a chew toy he enjoys
> >> it, only stops the biting for a few seconds, before he
> >> gets back to biting the flesh.
> >
> > Then do it again. And again. You're dealing with a
> > puppy brain here. And don't just hand him the toy and
> > expect *him* to make it interesting - right now, that's
> > your job. So, squeak it, move it around, and yes, tug
> > it with him.
>
> > If it doesn't work with one toy, try another.
>
> >> (Told you, we've been trying everything:))
>
> > To tell you the truth, that could be a big part of
> > the problem. *Consistency* is the secret to most
> > things dog.
> >
> >> A friend stopped by today & said her son uses a squirt
> >> bottle when his puppy bites & it seems to be working.
> >> Any thoughts on that? He loves water & I hate to turn
> >> him off water by using a squirt bottle on him.
>
> > Playing and interacting with a brand new puppy is a wonderful
> > bonding time. Puppy nipping is not a big deal and with
> > consistent attention mixed with a little bit of growing up,
> > your's will stop. Right now, he's playing in the only way he
> > knows, so you have to teach him more people-friendly ways to
> > play.
> >
> > A correction (like the squirt bottle) won't do much good in the
> > long run because he doesn't yet understand what you want him to
> > do.
> >
> > --
> > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.98.
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
From: "Pauline O'Connell" <poco...@pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 22:40:42 GMT
Subject: Re: A proposal re: HUGs
My feelings (as sensitive as they are) weren't hurt; I'm
just one of those people who wants to do the "right" thing
& not offend anyone either! But thank you for the totally
unnecessary apology. You did explain things perfectly &
this is all part of a learning experience - yes?
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
From: "Pauline O'Connell" <poco...@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 05:39:23 GMT
Subject: Re: did you all get what you wanted??
I got almost everything that was on my wish list - except for
a puppy:) I knew that wouldn't happen, cause I want to pick
it out together with DH, but a promise of a puppy would have
been nice! Not to worry - I'm signing up to raise a Guide
Dog for a year - I know it will kill me to give it up, but
I'm trying to focus on the greater good!
Pauline
-----------
THAT'S HOWE COME 65% of those dogs FAIL TRAINING.
> CNYstitcher wrote:
> > 5-Trying to baste a quilt while your 4yo is watching
> > is next to impossible because said child wants to "help"
From: "Pauline O'Connell" <poco...@pacbell.net>
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:02:46 GMT
Subject: Re: what next?
I'm sure you were sent very special children for a reason -
cause you're a very special mom, who will love & care for
your two like no other.
---------------
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
From: CNYstitcher <s...@therctqdirectory.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:35:17 GMT
Subject: OT: what next?
So, by now, most of you know about the past year os chaos -
CPS being called on us by one of Thomas' teachers (case
closed as no evidence could be found), Thomas being diagnosed
with a disability, Rebekah being born almost a month early.
Well, yesterday, I got another roundhouse
punch out of the blue.
Rebeklah went in for her 1 year checkup, got 1 vaccine, and
I thought everything was okey dokey. However, the docotr is
concerned about her growth. Apparently, she has only gained
8oz in 3 months, which isn't good at all. At 1 year, she only
says mama, and only recently started crawling. DOctor asked
about her eating habits, so I told him (she stopped eating
baby food and would only tkae bottles, and sometimes she
would refuse them, however, she *would* eat small bits of the
food the rest of the family ate). Turns out, she isn't getting
enough calories to support brain development and growth.
WWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
Doctor is referring us to Early Intervention so that they can
do an evaluation on Rebekah to see where she needs help, and I
am going to try to feed her as much as possible, trying to reach
700 calories a day, which means detailed diaries of what she
actually eats. We almost reached 700 by bedtime last night, but
she ended up staying up until the wee hours, and was awake at 5am
(which meant I was up that early, and then Thomas woke up at 6am
with a nightmare...yes, I'm exhausted).
I had my bout of feeling like a total failur with both of my
children - one has a disability and on is failing to thrive....
it *must* be my fault. But I'm pretty much over that now.
Still, I feel as if I have let them down in some way,
so I am trying to "fix" what I can.
I just feel really low and kind of locked up creatively and
everything else. Since I was up so early, I managed to start
working on DHs renaissance costume shirt, but I don't know if
I can progress any further today...so much to do, and only so
much energy to do it with.
If I don't post as much, you now know the reason why....I'm
completely overwhelmed and frustrated and confused and at the
end of my rope.
Larisa
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Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
From: CNYstitcher <s...@therctqdirectory.com>
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:30:51 GMT
Subject: OT: musings of my mind
I have been having a hard week. It started when I looked at the
calendar and saw that October was coming faster than I thought.
Do you realize that today, at 2:11pm, my darling girl will be 1
year old? It doesn't seem like it is possible. The doctor said
she would be behind most of her "peers" until she was about 5 years
old due to her bing slightly premature. As of today, she is crawling
on all 4s (as opposed to doing a military low-crawl), she can pull
herself up to standing with just about anything, and she has decided
to try furniture surfing. SHe isn't talking much, other than MaMa
(and it is hysterical when she gets upset -
MAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA!!).
so he is constantly tripping over his feet, or sometimes nothing
at all. Every time he falls, rebekah stops what she is doing until
Thomas says that he is okay and gets back up, then she will smile at
him, say "AY!" and go back to playing. If Rebekah is upset or tired,
Thomas is her savior, he can make her laugh and forget that she threw
her pacifier across the room <grin>.
What was life like this time last year? Crazy, chaotic,
worrisome...who'd a thunk that things would be even more
topsyturvy?
But you know, things have also settled down. Having a premature child
and a child with a disability have made me take a look at my life and
what is important to me. I have become even more convicted that
staying
at home with my children was the best decision I could have made. If I
was working outside the house, who would be the advocate for my
children? Who would take them to all the doctors' appointments,
THAT'S MunchHOWESEN by Proxy, dog lovers.
THAT'S The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME <{): ~ ) >
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Everything Jerry does is positive reinforcement. In fact, a
lot of it is completely counter-intuitive (eg, praise the dog
even when he's doing the WRONG thing)... but for some bizarre
reason, it works.... His methods *don't* quite match up with
what Cesar does... but... I figure, if you're willing to give
it a try, the *worst* that could happen would be the dog gets
a lot of extra praise and there's no effect whatsoever :-).
The way Jerry's training works, *any* problem is sorted out
after four iterations of extinguishing the behaviour. He says
*anybody* can do it, *every* time, because if a method doesn't
work 100% of the time, for everybody, it's not a good method.
Here's *my* quick summary of it all....
Basically, Jerry's method is based on a foundation of:
a) Focusing the dog's attention on you (the Hot and Cold exercise)
b) Establishing yourself as pack leader (the Family Pack Leadership
exercise) - Note that he does this by dominating *mentally*, never
by dominating *physically* (no alph rolls, no leash corrections)
c) Praising EVERYTHING the dog does - desired or undesired !!!
This is the weird part !! because you are praising the dog
for *thinking* and *deciding* (even if he decided something
you didn't want him to do). This part is so counter-intuitive,
that a lot of people just won't even try this method of training,
because they "know" it couldn't possibly work.
You *never* show the dog displeasure, raise your tone, emphasize
a word strongly, sigh in disgust, *nothing* negative (a hard
habit for a human being to break), EVER. Everything is completely
calm and matter of fact.
All the dog ever hears is what a good dog he is, and you're
*telling* him what a great dog he is, even when he's doing
the behaviour you DON'T want him to do (!). As I said, this
makes so little sense to human beings that a lot of people
won't even *try* this method of training a dog.
d) You *never* put *any* pressure on, or pull on, the dog's
collar. the lead is *always* kept loose. NO corrections are
done by pulling on the collar (a hard habit for a human being
to break).
e) Every behaviour can be created, or extinguished, with only
four repetitions of the training session (another wildly counter-
intuitive concept).
f) Interrupting and eliminating bad behaviours from the dog's
repertoire is done by using sound distractions to condition
the dog *not* to do certain things (or, rather TO do certain
OTHER things)....
Part (f), the sound distraction part, always consists of an
unvarying sequence of saying the exact same thing, four times
in a row (the only new thing being the insertion of the command
keyword <sit, down, come, whatever>) into the sequence, and with
no tonal emphasis on the words at all... and you say all four
sequences in a row, as if they were one long monotone word...
Two of the verbal iterations are accompanied by a sound <pennies
rattling in a can> and two aren't. It's the timing of the sound
to come at the same time as the keyword, that is critical...
Iteration 1: Doggy-<keyword>-good-boy. (and he may have NO clue
what "<keyword>" means)... immediately followed by: Iteration 2:
Doggy-<keyword> <shake can with pennies on the word "<keyword>"> -
good-boy.... immediately followed by: Iteration 3: Doggy-<keyword>-
good-boy.... immediately followed by:Iteration 4: <toss can with
pennies so that *just* as you say the <keyword>, the can hits the
ground, somewhere on the far side of the dog>: Doggy-<keyword> <can
lands as you say the word "<keyword>"> - good-boy.
So, it's really: Take a deep reath: Doggy-keyword-good-boy-
Doggy-[keyword/NEARBY-SOUND]-good-boy-Doggy-keyword-good-boy-
Doggyy-[keyword/FAR-SOUND]-good-boy,
The important part is that the sound has to come from two different
locations, and it has to occur precisely when the keyword is said.
I, personally, have the most trouble with timing the toss
so that the far-away can lands precisely on the keyword.
Jerry explains how to communicate to the dog what "<keyword>"
means, with your own actions. Initially, the behaviours are
based on the dog's motion (coming, going), and the foundation
that was established in the first two exercises, and then he
focuses on extinguishing undesirable behaviours (barking,
jumping, aggression, slamming against fences, bolting through
doors). Establishing desired behaviours like "sit" and "heel"
takes up a lot of the third file.
I'm warning you right up front that Jerry's method seems
COMPLETELY counter-intuitive. Not just counter-intuitive,
it seems completely stupid, impossible, unlikely, ridiculous,
and even *uncomfortable* (for you, the human being) to do.
You reward the dog when he hasn't seemed to do *anything* yet.
(boy, do you feel stupid! "This can't work!" ... but it does.)
You reward the dog when he's very pointedly doing something you
DON'T want.... (keep that smile on your face, in your tone, and
in your body language! very difficult! "Why am I rewarding him
when he's disobeying or being bad?" Jerry explains why !! )
It's the weirdest thing in the world, and yet it seems to work anyway.
I know you don't have tons of time, and it is, of course better
to read the original author's version than a summary! But, here's
a quick summary of the exercises I'm hoping you'll think are worth
trying...
The "Hot and Cold" exercise:
- Done in four different sessions on the first day.
- Takes about 2-3 minutes. You praise the dog every time he
comes towards you, or even looks at you, even out of the corner
of his eyes. Very shortly, he's hovering close to you and keeping
at least one eye on you. Now he's paying attention.
The "Pack Family Leadership" exericise:
- Done in four different sessions on the first day. The first
session takes about 15 minutes the first time, the second session
that day takes about 12 minutes, 8 minutes for the third session,
6 minutes for the fourth session. You do it in a 60' x 60' foot
square (you'll be using a 20' x 20' section, the rest is for the
dog's 20 foot leash to play out, if he wants to roam).
Ideally each of the four sessions is done in four different physical
locations. Do this weekly for the first month, then monthly as a
"tune up" thereafter. What you do is, preferably the entire family
(although it can be done by just one person) marches very slowly
(one step per second) around the square, stopping at the corners,
talking only to each other, never pulling the dog along with them,
never looking at the dog. If he comes, or looks at the group, he
gets praised. If he looks away, or walks away, he hears nothing.
That's it!
Pretty soon, he's hovering around his "pack", seeking attention.
Now you have the foundation to build on.
You build on the "Pack Family Leadership" exercise, to get a come/
recall, by adding in the four iterations plus sound distractions,
as per Jerry's instructions.
After that, any undesired behaviour is interrupted with brief
variably alternating sound distractions INSTANTLY followed by
prolonged NON PHYSICAL praise (if it takes as many as four),
and praise in advance as per his instructions, and any new
desired behaviour is taught using the four iterations plus
sound distractions, as per Jerry's instructions.
He specifically addresses dogs who bark too much/fling themselves
at windows/throw themselves at the door/etc. and bolting out the
front door, dogs who throw themselves against fences, people-
aggressive dogs, etc., and more.
Well, hope that didn't drown you with information....
Anyway, I hope you get a chance to read through it, and are
willing to give it a try. It takes less time than correcting
the dog over and over for the rest of his life, and it's more
fun all the way around for everybody.
Thanks,
-Lauren
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
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From: Paul B
Date: Thurs, Dec 27 2001 7:15 am
Email: "Paul B" <pand...@zfree.co.nz>
Hello roo
> Hiya Paul,
In this instance "bollocks" means "load of rubbish" but you knew that,
> > the manual has no dangerous suggestions at all,
> I'll leave it to others to go though this in detail. It would be a useful
> service if someone could. It would take me too long at the moment, (as my
> family kinda expect me to be sociable now and then at Christmas time).
> There are a number of posts from JH that have worried me too - the most
> recent
What I said is correct, the manual has no dangerous suggestions,
your deviating and referring to recent posts he has made.
> Some other methods aren't very helpful, I agree. I know you are
> a fan of Jan Fennell. What other dog books have you read that
> were written after 1995, Paul?
I'm not a fan of Jan (I'm a poet and I noet), I read her book and saw
her on TV and was impressed with some of the results she achieved, but
after deliberation I'm now not so fond of her methods. I can't recall
at the moment all the books I've read, How Dogs Think, by William E
Campbell, No Bad Dogs Just Bad Trainers by Charles Lee Kelly, Calming
Signals by a Norwegian author if I remember correctly, I seem to recall
a Bruce Fogel book, (and trying to forget it), I've even read some of
Koehler's ideas, The Dog Whisperer by Paul Owens and a lot more but I'm
not listing them tonight.
But that all seems irrelevant as we are discussing Jerry's manual.
> Yes, distraction and praise can be helpful, but it does not always work in
> any situation. And it does not always work immediately, and in the mean
> time, you need to prevent problems by keeping a dog out of trouble. As Pat
> once said, you wouldn't leave dangerous medicines around for kids to find
> and eat, and hiding the garbage is a sensible precaution while dogs are
> likely to raid it, esp. as they can find objects in it that can harm them.
I disagree, distraction and praise is probably the only method that
does
work in any situation and as immediate as a dog can be trained. Hiding
garbage etc is a way to avoid a bin raid and lose an opportunity to
distract
and praise and cure the behavior forever, properly timed and conducted
a dog
can lose interest in a behavior in one location in a very short time
(one
training session). Of course if you have to leave the dog in a
situation
where it's going to do undesirable things before you can address them
then a
temporary solution is required, but to say keep a garbage bin out of
the
dogs reach for ever rather than adopt a suitable training method is
ridiculous.
Paul
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From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST
> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?
It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.
Works like a charm.
My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.
Sorry that slipped my mind.
I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.
Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.
Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.
Seemed he learned through osmosis.
Nice side benefit there.
It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.
I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.
I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.
I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.
Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.
Mike
----------------
From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method
I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.
The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.
It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.
Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.
One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.
When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.
You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).
Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.
What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.
At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.
Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.
Is Jerry a nut?
It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.
More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.
I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?
Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.
Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.
Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.
Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.
If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).
--Larry
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Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:
"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.
From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,
I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.
You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
alert the world to animal abuse.
We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.
Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?
In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.
--Marshall Dermer
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>From The Annals Of Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory
Subject: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
"I Am Willing To Take Jerry's Theory On How Dogs Think As A Likely
One, Simply Because The Dog Training Methodology He Describes
(Based On His Suppositions) Works So Well," Lisa B.
Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Hi Marshall,
I'll do my best to answer you... please bear with me, ok? :-)
Marshall Dermer wrote:
> In article <3B4B013F.914E0...@hotmail.com>
> 2tails <wagginta...@hotmail.com> writes:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > needed so that the person reading it will be able to figure
> > out their dogs' problems by themselves.
> > Problems, as in "why is my dog doing 'X,'" and
> > figuring out ways to address it, if necessary.
> > regards,
> > Lisa
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> That is, if thinking is some invisible process inside of a
> dog's head how would we know if Jerry or anyone is correct?
Of course, it isn't necessary at all to know how dogs think,
or even if they *do* think. I believe that they do, but of
course I can't prove it, and neither can Jerry.
The heart of the matter is, the discussion in the manual
regarding "how dogs think" is part of a wholistic approach to
dog training.
It helps to comprehend the reasoning behind the methodology. The
methodology works quickly and easily, therefore lending credence
(as far as I'm concerned) to his theory of how dogs think.
It's the same sort of thing regarding theories of whether the
earth revolves around the sun, or contrariwise. Is it possible
to send a rocket to the moon, based on the assumption
that the sun revolves around the earth?
The answer is, of course, yes, though it would most likely
be enormously complicated. The better solution is to begin
with the theory that the earth revolves around the sun.
In other words, the simplest answer or description is the
best, even though it may not be empirically provable.
And so, I am willing to take Jerry's theory on how dogs
think as a likely one, simply because the dog training
methodology he describes (based on his suppositions)
works so well.
I hope this helps you to understand from which perspective
I say the things that I do about Jerry's method and manual.
regards,
Lisa
---------
From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-10 13:34:38 PST
In article <HRI27.3908$187.184...@news-rep.ab.videon.ca>
"Jenn" <d...@try.it> writes:
> Hi Lynn,
> I used to have a barking problem with my
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> to warn me by my praise, and she stops.
> Jenn,
Could you be so kind as to post here the
section from Jerry's manual where he
writes that you should JUST praise the
dog when it barks?????????
As I recall, I thought he first advocates
distracting the dog from barking, with
keys or the soft sound of pennies in a
can, before praising.
Perhaps you can tutor me regarding
Jerry's system.
Thanks in advance!
--Marshall Dermer
PS: I don't read Jerry's posts but I look
forward to your post.
From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Clicker training "stay"
Date: 2001-06-21 20:25:38 PST
In article <iqtY6.5456$rA2.1119...@news-rep.ab.videon.ca>
"Jenn" <d...@try.it> writes:
> Hi, DogStar716, sorry you feel this way about
> me. I hope I can change your mind in the future,
> as I love reading your posts, and value (and
> have used) some of your advice.
BWWWWWEEEJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAA!!!
> As for my post to Jer, I am just attempting
> to get a plain answer about something instead
> of a trash- fest. I just want to know if it can be
> done.
> Jenn Standring
I'm not Jerry but sure you could use a clicker to
distract a dog but that is not the purpose of a clicker.
You can also use a teaspoon to cut steak but that
is not the purpose of teaspoon!
--Marshall
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"Marshall Dermer" <der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>
wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu...
From: Paul B (NOSPAMpand...@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST
Hello Marshall,
The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.
The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.
A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.
One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.
While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an important
part of the process.
> Thanks Paul! He does recommend praising
> a dog for barking, but he appears to recognize
> that this may not work and so distraction
> is recommended as a back up procedure:
> There really is NOTHING new about the advice above!
Nuthin EXXXCEPT HOWE IT'S DONE, professor SCRUFF SHAKE.
> From: Paul B (pand...@zfree.co.nz)
> Subject: Re: Wit's End Training Techniques
> Date: 2002-02-09 15:55:30 PST
> "Alpha" <sween...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:GMP88.2392$BE4.6535@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> How can the dog decide you are altering its behaviour with
> distraction, your related to jar jar are'nt you?
Easy, when the dog starts a behaviour and is immediately
distracted every time it tires to participate in that
behaviour it will decide that that behaviour is not
rewarding so it will cease it and try something else. We
haven't told the dog to do or not do anything but merly
let the dog decide it doesn't want to continue with the
inappropriate behaviour by preventing it being able to
focus on that behaviour.
Yes Jer and me are related, years ago a group of Aliens
made hybrid men, combining the best of all mankind, me
and Jer are the result of this, we have 2 heads, 3 arms,
one leg and possess superior intelligence.
> Jar Jar's techniques are not new if you care to study
> how dogs tick you would understand this...Alpha
I don't see what your getting at, his individual techniques
are not new but the way he combines them are unique. Anyway
how would studying how dogs tick make me understand Jers
techniques are not new?
Paul.
From: Paul B (pand...@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Can pack leader influence rank?
Date: 2002-02-25 00:51:48 PST
I use sound to distract the dog and praise it immediately.
The reason for the immediate praise is that as soon as the
dog is distracted it's no longer thinking of the inappropriate
behaviour so the praise reinforces the "not doing" the unwanted
behaviour.
I use various sound sources, a soda can with stones in it,
car keys, click my fingers, etc. Varying the direction of
the sound each time is important too, otherwise the dog
may begin to anticipate the sound and it will lose it's
effect, if the noise direction is random the dog won't
get too familiar with it and it will remain an effective
distraction.
Remember too that we aren't trying to scare the bejesus
outta the dog, simply breaking it's train of thought while
it's thinking of the unwanted behaviour.
Sometimes you won't even see a reaction but the dog will
have been distracted fleetingly. (Recently one of my dogs
started habitually licking my feet while I was watching
TV, I clicked my fingers on her left side and told her
"good girl" even though she only paused her licking
briefly, next I clicked over her right side and praised,
by about the 4th repeat she suddenly stopped, I repeated
this over a few nights and now she doesn't lick any more,
on the few occasions she absent mindedly licks now all I
do is click and praise and she immediately stops).
Timing is important too, learn to anticipate when the dog
is thinking about doing the "dirty deed" and distract and
praise then, with any luck the dog will try again almost
immediately so distract and praise again, if the timing
is correct after about the 4th rep the dog will stop.
I could go on but this post is long enough already, remember
too that the dog isn't being a "bad dog", it's behaviour is
simply inappropriate for the circumstances.
Happy training, :-)
Paul
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Paul B <pand...@zfree.co.nz> wrote in message
> > > "James Roberts" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3C637444.20DD6735@privacy.net...
>
> > I have downloaded and have read Jerry's
> > Wit's End document. Ignoring what you
> > think of his participation, what is your
> > assessment of the merits of his techniques?
Hello James,
I have used his recommended techniques and
ideas with greatsuccess, and over the period
I've used these methods the more I've become
to understand and appreciate how his methods
work and how effective they can be if carried
out correctly.
His manual isn't conventional and as such
gets critisized and misunderstood. The basic
concept is to allow the dog to choose whatever
behaviour it wants for any situation but to
distract (and immediately praise ) it from
behaviours we deem undesirable, because of
the correctly timed distractions repeated
usually about 4 times (in each location) the
dog decides of it own accord that this behaviour
is undesriable and therefore pursues something
else, if that behaviour is also inappropriate
to us then we carry on distracting, very soon
the dog finds a behaviour that is mutually acceptable.
The benefits of this type of approach are
numerous, Firstly we aren't challenging
the dog so there is no conflict so the dog
does't develop any possible negativity to
us, the dog decides of it own free will that
a behaviour is unsatisfying so chooses to
cease it (in other words even if we are gone
the dog won't have any desire to pursue that
behaviour i.e. bin raiding etc).
I would recommend his manual.
Paul
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"Paul B" <pand...@zfree.co.nz> wrote in message
Bollocks, the manual has no dangerous suggestions at
all, people who find the manual useful are those that
don't need to control a dog to satisfy their own ego
but simply want a well behaved dog that is easy to
live with. I would suggest the people who follow the
advice in his manual are people who have already
tried other inefficient methods and are fed up with
the poor results.
The more I think about the methods he suggests the
more sense it makes, the biggest problem is people
believe they have to be in control of the dog, tell it
whats right and wrong, dogs don't understand
our values and I don't believe they are capable of
understanding them either, so to train them we use
methods they understand. That means abstract
training, doing sometimes what appears to
almost be the opposite of what makes sense to us.
If you are purely result orientated then you will not
find Jerry's manual much use, if you love your dogs
and love to work WITH them then his manual is
your dream come true. Distraction and praise works
with any dog, when you sit back and really think about
it, it's very obvious why.
When a dog is properly distracted (and praised) of a
particular behaviour then that behaviour very quickly
becomes unfulfilling so the dog will no longer have any
interest in pursuing it, whether we are about or not,
thats the key to stopping garbage can raids and food
stealing etc etc, no force, no bad dog, just distracting it
in an appropriate manner that it no longer wishes to
pursue that behaviour.
Better than hiding the garbage can eh?
Paul
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"If I Knew It Would Be That Easy, I Would Have
Done This A Long Time Ago Saving Myself 5 Years
Of Dealing With A Bouncy, Over Excited Dog!" Jenn.
Hello Jenn,
"brijen" <bri...@vennercnospams.com> wrote in message
> Hello Jerry,
> I just wanted to let you know that I am trying this right now.
Good.
> I am the woman who wrote to you a while ago about
> trying to walk my dog without the pinch collar.
I recall.
> She also goes APE when I grab the leash. We have
> been doing this technique you recommend for about
> a half an hour now and the results are already
> fantastic, as well as amusing!
Yeah, dog training should always be more fun than work.
> At first, we went out and I stood there,
> and Anya kept trying to head out to the
> sidewalk. When I didn't follow, she came
> and sat beside me at heel! (Thanks to
> your help!) She'd NEVER done that before.
It's the same principle as in the Hot And
Cold Exercise.
> I rewarded that with a few steps of a walk,
> but we came in after about 30 seconds. She
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> up the leash, and this last time, I HAD
> TO CALL HER TO ME!!!!!!!!!!
Fine. That's because dogs learn on the basis of
four repetitions. That's not to say they can't learn
some things faster, but for breaking habits, it
usually happens the fourth time we repeat a lesson.
Then we need to repeat the lesson at three more
locations our time in each to generalize the idea.
Let's say your dog gets excited when you take her
lead and go to the front door. She would probably
do the same at the back door, but to not such a degree.
Likewise for any other door.
It would behoove you to repeat the exercise with
several other doors and it would be easiest to
start with a door that had less excitement involved
with it.
> If I knew it would be that easy, I would have
> done this a long time ago saving myself 5
> years of dealing with a bouncy, over excited dog!
The non force methods work fast and easy
because we are not challenging the dog or
calling our attention to their behavior problems.
> I have to tell you how the walk is going though.
> I have a lot of problems there, but it is all ME.
> I have been so conditioned to "correct" her,
> that I still find myself yanking on her collar.
Yes, those habits are hard to break. It's easier for
me to train a person who has no experience at all
because they have no bad habits of pulling and
forcing control.
> I feel so awful! We have only been working
> in the yard without distractions, because I
> honestly don't know what will happen if she
> sees another dog and I won't have the pinch
> collar to keep her from dragging me over for
> a fight.
You know that working the dog in the back
yard is not preferable, because that causes
them some anxiety because it's their free area.
But with your dog and with the difficulty he is
to handle, I don't see any reason you shouldn't
do the Family Leadership Exercise and the come
command several times out there, and then you'll
have the control to do it in a more neutral area.
> The upside is, when I take the leash off it's
> hook and don't take the pinch collar, her
> excitement to go for a walk is NO LONGER
> combined with the intense fear I used to see
> in her eyes at the sight of the pinch!
Our group likes to think that is EXCITEMENT and
eagerness to work. It is sheer terror. The pinch
collar works by overriding the opposition reflex
through fear and that cause tremendous stress
and anxiety that must be released through anxiety
relief mechanisms like barking, digging, whining,
chewing, self mutilation and aggression.
> That does it for me. I can't believe I instilled
> fear in my beautiful dog just for the sake that
> I didn't know how to train. Well, I still don't
> know how, but I'm learning!
That's where I was three dozen years ago. I was
ready to just quit. I wasn't going to sour any more
dogs to make them work.
> Thanks for your help. Please send more
> suggestions if you saw something I could
> be doing differently!
> Jenn & Anya
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The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >
"A cheerful heart is good medicine,
but a crushed spirit dries up the bones".
Proverbs 17:22
Blessed are all who take refuge in HIM.
Jerry 21 And unto this people thou shalt say,
Thus saith the LORD Of DOG;
Behold, I set before you
The Way Of Life,
And
The Way Of Death.
And Disciple Paulie said unto them, Thus shall ye
say to your master, Thus saith The LORD Of DOG,
Be not afraid of the words which thou hast heard,
with which the servants of koehler and university
trained behaviorists and veterinary malpracticioners
have blasphemed me.
Disciple Paulie Sez:
"No One Understands How Wits End Training Really
Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey And don't
Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That Deals With
Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built On Trust
And Understanding.
I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.
Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good
dog" sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll
find your dog thinking then responding everytime.
A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies
to every aspect of the relationship with your dog.
Obedience and affection are not related, if they were
everyone would have obedient dogs.
I have found giving dogs "payment" in advance i.e. "Sam
sit goodboy" makes the dogs want to respond, after all,
all dogs want to be "good dogs" and if you tell them they
are good then they feel an obligation to obey your request.
Telling Sam he's a good dog AFTER he sit's apart from
been too late is also a gamble because if he doesn't
sit then there's no positive interaction.
Paul
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father,
and the daughter against her mother,
the daughter in law against her mother in law
and the scholar against his professors.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own HOWEshold."
The Puppy Prophet <{); ~ ) >
All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer
"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.
"If you've got them by the balls their hearts
and minds will follow,"
John Wayne.
Yours,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >
ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{YPW) ; ~ } >
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starrkssd@aol.com - 18 May 2006 23:41 GMT
Hello everyone:-) i had to respond to this post,
>>Everything Jerry does is positive reinforcement. In fact, a
lot of it is completely counter-intuitive (eg, praise the dog
even when he's doing the WRONG thing)...
I had a hard time with this at first. Reading the little "conversation"
in the manual about what was happening as the dog barked at someone
coming to the door and the owner "barked" about the barking was eye
opening for me. Only when the owner said "thanks ok, that's' friends,
thanks for telling me, good job," (something like that) was the dog
able to feel that this was something he didn't have to worry about so
he stopped barking.
>but for some bizarre
>reason, it works....
It isn't bizarre at all, though it is really cool to think about and
understand. as far as the barking I just mentioned, by responding
possitively you are "shutting off", so to speak, the excited thoughts
and calming him instead of stressing him out by yelling at him and, in
effect, causing his state of excitation and discomfort to grow.
>His methods *don't* quite match up with
>what Cesar does...
Thank God
> but... I figure, if you're willing to give
>it a try, the *worst* that could happen would be the dog gets
>a lot of extra praise and there's no effect whatsoever :-).
Yeah, people need to be more open-minded!
>The way Jerry's training works, *any* problem is sorted out
>after four iterations of extinguishing the behaviour. He says
>*anybody* can do it, *every* time, because if a method doesn't
>work 100% of the time, for everybody, it's not a good method.
The original trainer who tried to train Starr had trained a much less
difficult dog of his own, but he said it still wasn't quite the dog he
wanted so he found it another home and got a new dog. That made me
wonder...........
>Here's *my* quick summary of it all....
>Basically, Jerry's method is based on a foundation of:
>a) Focusing the dog's attention on you (the Hot and Cold exercise)
This one I love! I have done this with so many dogs and it always
works. I love seeing them end up to calm and happy. Let me tell you
about Randy a stray who was at the shelter. he was very sweet and
cuddly but when he was being walked he was completely unaware of the
person walking him. He was interested in other things and never looked
to see the person. I did the "hot and cold" with him for a few minutes
and Randy found was calm and happily looking to me, as we walked he
continued to look back at me (he was not on command). This 80 lb stray
who paid no attention to the handler stopped pulling and calmly walked
beside me back to the kennel.
>b) Establishing yourself as pack leader (the Family Pack Leadership
>exercise) - Note that he does this by dominating *mentally*, never
>by dominating *physically* (no alph rolls, no leash corrections)
years ago a trainer told me that when my dog started barking
aggressively at my neighbors dog (who was never on a leash and always
ran at my dog in my yard) i should do this alpha roll, it infuriates me
to think of this now.
My dog who was scared of this other, also fear-aggressive dog he wanted
put in that position for protecting her own property. I hate to this of
the stress I caused her when i tried to do this. She was too fearful
and too strong to allow me to even manage the alpha roll with her.
However the family pack leadership exercise is such a kind way to say
to the dogs "this is the family, we stay together, things are going to
be happiest and most fun, and calm when we are all hanging out
together, so lets make sure we stay together." so refreshing!
>c) Praising EVERYTHING the dog does - desired or undesired !!!
>This is the weird part !! because you are praising the dog
>for *thinking* and *deciding* (even if he decided something
>you didn't want him to do). This part is so counter-intuitive,
>that a lot of people just won't even try this method of training,
>because they "know" it couldn't possibly work.
>You *never* show the dog displeasure, raise your tone, emphasize
>a word strongly, sigh in disgust, *nothing* negative (a hard
>habit for a human being to break), EVER. Everything is completely
>calm and matter of fact.
Resulting is a calm and happy dog and a very good character trait for
both human and animal; self control
>All the dog ever hears is what a good dog he is, and you're
>*telling* him what a great dog he is,
As the stress melts away and the bond between dog and human gets
stronger and the trust gets stronger and the love.........
you end up so in tune with your beloved doggy that you know when a
sniffle from you will calm him down. seriously, i do lol.
>even when he's doing
>the behaviour you DON'T want him to do (!). As I said, this
>makes so little sense to human beings that a lot of people
>won't even *try* this method of training a dog.
>d) You *never* put *any* pressure on, or pull on, the dog's
>collar. the lead is *always* kept loose. NO corrections are
>done by pulling on the collar (a hard habit for a human being
>to break).
Nothing to trigger stress. Jerry told me when he handed me back the
leash to work with my dog that Starr was so stressed about getting
corrected that the slightest tension on the leash triggered her
anxiety:-(
perhaps this is why so many trainers say theirs dogs obey well on long
leads??
>e) Every behaviour can be created, or extinguished, with only
>four repetitions of the training session (another wildly counter-
>intuitive concept).
>f) Interrupting and eliminating bad behaviours from the dog's
>repertoire is done by using sound distractions to condition
>the dog *not* to do certain things (or, rather TO do certain
>OTHER things)....
By guiding the dog's thoughts and emotions we encourage or discourage
behaviors. Action follows the thought. Which is another reason why
there is no place for stressing the dogs with correction or physical
domination.
>Part (f), the sound distraction part, always consists of an
>unvarying sequence of saying the exact same thing, four times
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>rattling in a can> and two aren't. It's the timing of the sound
>to come at the same time as the keyword, that is critical...
>Iteration 1: Doggy-<keyword>-good-boy. (and he may have NO clue
>what "<keyword>" means)... immediately followed by: Iteration 2:
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>ground, somewhere on the far side of the dog>: Doggy-<keyword> <can
>lands as you say the word "<keyword>"> - good-boy.
>So, it's really: Take a deep reath: Doggy-keyword-good-boy-
>Doggy-[keyword/NEARBY-SOUND]-good-boy-Doggy-keyword-good-boy-
>Doggyy-[keyword/FAR-SOUND]-good-boy,
>The important part is that the sound has to come from two different
>locations, and it has to occur precisely when the keyword is said.
I just want to say here how very important is really is to alternate
the direction of the sound. Dont think it wont matter that much if you
shake the can on three occasions in a row when you are supposed to be
providing the sound from afar. After you make the sound tell yourself
where it has to come from for next time and dont forget. Its an easy
thing to remember even if the distractions are two days apart if you
are conscious of it.
>I, personally, have the most trouble with timing the toss
>so that the far-away can lands precisely on the keyword.
>Jerry explains how to communicate to the dog what "<keyword>"
>means, with your own actions.
This aspect of the system is really amazing to me. At first I totally
didn't get it, I was like "ok, I'm saying come and I'm not showing the
dog anything?" Learning how to use body language and praise to
communicate and "ask" a dog to do something is very important. (i have
been able to draw out nervous strays wondering the streets and put the
dogs i have "baby sit" for at ease) Non physical guidance is necessary
for them to have a clear mind and learn unhindered.
>Initially, the behaviours are
>based on the dog's motion (coming, going), and the foundation
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>doors). Establishing desired behaviours like "sit" and "heel"
>takes up a lot of the third file.
Everything in order for a strong stable foundation:-)
>I'm warning you right up front that Jerry's method seems
>COMPLETELY counter-intuitive. Not just counter-intuitive,
>it seems completely stupid, impossible, unlikely, ridiculous,
>and even *uncomfortable* (for you, the human being) to do.
It is uncomfortable at first, especially when people are watching and
think you're crazy for doing what you're doing; praising aggressive
behavior? thowing around cans? lol You get over that, (and get good at
explaining what you're doing) knowing that the system will work.
>You reward the dog when he hasn't seemed to do *anything* yet.
>(boy, do you feel stupid! "This can't work!" ... but it does.)
The psychology is wonderful and really bonds you to your dog. You are
often praising a "thought" he is thinking that is in the right
direction of what you want him to do. When he is encouraged for
thinking it he'll make a step toward acting on the thought. When your
dog performs the "come" he will be so happy!
>You reward the dog when he's very pointedly doing something you
>DON'T want.... (keep that smile on your face, in your tone, and
>in your body language! very difficult! "Why am I rewarding him
>when he's disobeying or being bad?" Jerry explains why !! )
>It's the weirdest thing in the world, and yet it seems to work anyway.
>I know you don't have tons of time, and it is, of course better
>to read the original author's version than a summary! But, here's
>a quick summary of the exercises I'm hoping you'll think are worth
>trying...
>The "Hot and Cold" exercise:
>- Done in four different sessions on the first day.
>- Takes about 2-3 minutes. You praise the dog every time he
>comes towards you, or even looks at you, even out of the corner
>of his eyes. Very shortly, he's hovering close to you and keeping
>at least one eye on you. Now he's paying attention.
There's nothing better than a calm happy puppy!
>The "Pack Family Leadership" exericise:
>- Done in four different sessions on the first day. The first
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>square (you'll be using a 20' x 20' section, the rest is for the
>dog's 20 foot leash to play out, if he wants to roam).
When Starr is off lead she never goes farther out than 20- 30 feet and
is always checking up on where i am.
>Ideally each of the four sessions is done in four different physical
>locations. Do this weekly for the first month, then monthly as a
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>never looking at the dog. If he comes, or looks at the group, he
>gets praised. If he looks away, or walks away, he hears nothing.
This is different than ignoring the dog or an unwanted behavior because
in this case the dog is choosing to move away from you, he is not, at
that moment after your attention. Jerry can correct me if I'm wrong.
>That's it!
>Pretty soon, he's hovering around his "pack", seeking attention.
>Now you have the foundation to build on.
>You build on the "Pack Family Leadership" exercise, to get a come/
>recall, by adding in the four iterations plus sound distractions,
>as per Jerry's instructions.
>After that, any undesired behaviour is interrupted with brief
>variably alternating sound distractions INSTANTLY followed by
>prolonged NON PHYSICAL praise (if it takes as many as four),
>and praise in advance as per his instructions, and any new
>desired behaviour is taught using the four iterations plus
>sound distractions, as per Jerry's instructions.
>He specifically addresses dogs who bark too much/fling themselves
>at windows/throw themselves at the door/etc. and bolting out the
>front door, dogs who throw themselves against fences, people-
>aggressive dogs, etc., and more.
>Well, hope that didn't drown you with information....
>Anyway, I hope you get a chance to read through it, and are
>willing to give it a try. It takes less time than correcting
>the dog over and over for the rest of his life, and it's more
>fun all the way around for everybody.
>Thanks,
>-Lauren
This is a nice overview of these exercises that everbody needed to read
about. Thanks for sharing.
It's great to hear of all the dogs (and people) who are having success!
To anyone who hasnt tried this method, try it! the dogs will brighten
and blossom and be well behaved, which means less, stressed,
aggressive, sad, unwanted dogs!
Crystal