Pet Forum / Miscellaneous / Animal Health / August 2006

nickel-sized abrasion on the

..........Could be some kind of chemical burn?  If there's absolutely
nothing your dog could have gotten into or way he could have abraded his
paws, I'd head to the vet.  This could be a disease process at work.  Best
to figure it out now.

buglady
take out the dog before replying

My guess is that it's mechanical trauma.  Soggy damp pads are vulnerable
and if she'd been hanging out in the mud then started running the fence
with the neighbor's dog (for instance) she would definitely be at risk
for the injuries you describe.

What can you do about it?  Correct the drainage in the boggy area.  And
help her to build up a protective layer of callous by walking and/or
running her on a variety of surfaces, increasing your mileqage very
gradually.

Kathleen

HOWEDY firepower_50ae,

Whereas both feet are similarly afflicted it would likely be
a case of "paw licking dermatitis" aka licking granulomas
aka acral lick dermatitis.

THAT'S WON of the MOST DIFFICULT
behavior problems to EXXXTINGUISH.

It could take up to a couple weeks to EXXXTINGUISH.

ACL is an OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER caused
by STRESS. THAT'S NOT to say there are not OTHER reasons
a dog will lick a sore till it becomes sore JUST from the licking.

Paw licking granulomas are amongst the most difficult STRESS
INDUCED DIS-EASES to CURE on accHOWENT of the HABITUAL
aspects and the slow heeling time of the wound. ANY relapse of
LICKING will open the wound back to the original state of inflamation.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard grew up in a Great Dane kennel
and has seen LOTS of licking granulomas and has CURED
THAT CONSISITENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY for more
than thirty five years, Keith.

Well then, it's PROBABLY a licking dermatitis. Do you
ever OBSERVE him EXXXCESSIVLELY licking his
paws? Doesn't take much effort for a dog to blister their
paws by licking them from anXXXIHOWESNESS and
likeWIZE, it doesn't take much effort to EXXXTINGUISH
the OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE BEHAVIOR <{) : ~ )  >

HOWEver, IF your dog is sufferin from paw lickin OCD
you'll need to address the underlying stressor in addition
to EXXXTINGUISHING the OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE
behavior.

The veterinary malpracticioners will advise you
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In advanced cases the veterinary malpracticioner
injects cortisone into the affected area and failing
THAT, often simply REMOVE the afflicted TOES
or foot, even euthanize the dog as there are NO
veterinary CURES for STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
IMMUNE DIS-EASES aka The Puppy Wizard's
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Dogs chew their paws for two reasons:

1. They're SICK

OR

2. They're UNHAPPY.

Of curse, THIS IS NOT a "diagnosis" of your dog's malady.
He could be sufferin from allergies *(another STRESS INDUCED
AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE) or trauma or even fly bites.

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While it's TRUE that it may require lab tests or biopsies to
DIAGNOSE a cancer or whatever infection might be there,
cancers are RARE in comparison to simple licking granulomas
and infections tend to HEEL as soon as we stop the dog from
aggrevating the problem by EXXXTINGUISHING STRESS.

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Doing the Four StepHeeling Pattern EXXXORCISE in part 2
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Pryor to WASTING your time effort an money on "DIAGNOSING"
what's PROBABLY an UNDIAGNOSABLE BEHAVIOR PROBLEM
and subjecting your dog to draconian midevil veterinary malpractices,
The Amazing Puppy Wizard RECOMMENDS you treat the PROBLEM
as BEHAVIORAL and in abHOWET two weeks you should see the
wound HEELING nicely OR you'll KNOW the dog needs veterinary
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Of curse, get your dog to the vet if you think he needs
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licking granuloma is diagnosed treat this as a BEHAVIOR
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The entire process is difficult to break because any lapse in our
efforts will permit the dog to re open the sore spots and you'll
only get two steps forward before taking one step back by allowing
even a short period of licking. Bandaging and aversives may
exasperate the situation and rarely work.

The exercises in the Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
are the best course of treatment. The heeling pattern exercises
done five minutes daily for a couple of weeks should begin to
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Disciple Paulie and Hennie REPORTED THEY CURED THE
SAME SAME PROBLEM NEARLY INSTANTLY:

From: Paul B (a...@clear.net.nz)

Subject: Re: dog chewing he paw raw.
Date: 2004-01-01 22:19:01 PST

Both my dogs at some stage have licked a spot somewhere on
their bodies and I have always managed to train them to stop.
In all cases there was nothing wrong that licking would have
helped (Roz has had cut pads, stitches in her belly and skin
irritations, all tempting her to lick), none of their licking
has been due to any allergies. When I see the dog licking more
than normal I look at the spot to see whats there and decide
if a vet appointment is needed or to wait and see, keeping a
close eye.

To stop the licking I distract the dog and give it some friendly
banter, when it starts licking again I repeat, usually after about
4 times the dog stops, for the moment at least, if it starts again
then repeat, before long the dog has no more desire to lick that
spot at all.

Paul

From: Hennie van Dalen Hennie van Dalen
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11

The same thing worked with my lab licking/chewing problem too.
He had an itch due to blocked anal glands and started chewing
and licking his tail at the root.

After the glands were squeezed, and the itch was gone he still
wouldn't stop. (because the place he chewed raw was itching)
After some training (roughly the same methode as yours) he
stopped.
--
Hennie van Dalen
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/
(h.vandalen11***removethis...@chello.nl)

"The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
schreef inbericht
news:DLpzb.2640$Qd6.1560@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

My dog (a 1 year old Yellow Lab) was biting his tail
at the root (Vet said his anal gland was blocked, and
was causing an itch).

After squeezing it, he still wouldn't stop biting his
tail. The vet advised a neck-funnel (don't know wat
you US-guy's call those) so he couldn't reach his butt.

I hate those things, i think they will drive a dog nuts.

I tried the wits end method. (difficult to read such a long
textfile if English is not your native language) Luckily this
is without all the "HOWE's" etc.so at least it's readable for
somebody like me.

The minute he started to bite i trew my key's
next to him on the floor, and praised him (he
stopped biting and looked up when he heard
the sound) I did this 7 times,

after that the tailbiting completely stopped.
Just give the wits end method a try.

One of the possible downloadlocations
is http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

Hennie van Dalen
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11

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"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis...@chello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...

RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The
F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works very good!

But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on A4-size
paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching him something
new takes about 30minutes  (depending on what to teach
offcourse)

My other dog (a 7year old staffordshire terrier-mix) is a bit
slower in learning, but he is used to me calling him a "bad
dog"whenever he did something i didn't want him to do, or
it might be the age.

Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS to learn
something new: he wants me to bring along the can
filled with washers whenever we go for a walk. It is a
very "humane" way of teaching: the dog is allways a
"good dog", and never a "bad dog"

There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved.

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

-- Hennie van Dalen www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/

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From: Paul B (pand...@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Can packleader influence rank?
Date: 2002-02-25 00:51:48 PST

I use sound to distract the dog and praise it
immediately. The reason for the immediate
praise is that as soon as the dog is distracted
it's no longer thinking of the inappropriate
behaviour so the praise reinforces the "not
doing" the unwanted behaviour.

I use various sound sources, a soda can
with stones in it, car keys, Click my fingers,
etc. Varying the direction of the sound each
time is important too, otherwise the dog may
begin to anticipate the sound and it will lose
it's effect, if the noise direction is random the
dog won't get too familiar with it and it will
remain an effective distraction.

Remember too that we aren't trying to scare the
bejesus outta the dog, simply breaking it's train
of thought while it's thinking of the unwanted
behaviour.

Sometimes you won't even see a reaction but the dog
will have been distracted fleetingly. (Recently one
of my dogs started habitually licking my feet while
I was watching TV, I clicked my fingers on her left
side and told her "good girl" even though she only
paused her licking briefly, next I clicked over her
right side and praised, by about the 4th repeat she
suddenly stopped, I repeated this over a few nights
and now she doesn't lick any more, on the few occasions
she absent mindedly licks now all I do is click and
praise and she immediately stops).

Timing is important too, learn to anticipate when
the dog isthinking about doing the "dirty deed"
and distract and praise then, with any luck the
dog will try again almost immediately so distract
and praise again, if the timing is correct after
about the 4th rep the dog will stop.

I could go on but this post is long enough already,
remember too that the dog isn't being a "bad dog",
it's behaviour is simply inappropriate for the
circumstances.

Happy training, :-)

Paul

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