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Mode of action of Rimadyl?

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Dale Atkin - 21 Feb 2007 02:41 GMT
Anyone know the mode of action of Rimadyl?

Could something like diabetes  insipidus predispose a dog to an adverse
reaction to Rimadyl?

I know both are quite rare, and I also know that my dog's brother died
after being given Rimadyl. Further, my dog may or may not (the jury's
still out) have diabetes insipidus.

Thoughts?

Dale
buglady - 21 Feb 2007 03:45 GMT
> Anyone know the mode of action of Rimadyl?
>
> Could something like diabetes  insipidus predispose a dog to an adverse
> reaction to Rimadyl?

Dale, check the FOI section of the CVM.  It's faster if you have the NADA
number - check on the box.  They should have the studies used for initial
approval of the drug and might have mode of action.  If not just google mode
of action Rimadyl (or chemical name, which escapes me at the moment)..  Or
look at PubMed.

FOI-Freedom of Information
CVM - Center for Vet Med
NADA - new animal drug approval.
Dale Atkin - 21 Feb 2007 04:35 GMT
>> Anyone know the mode of action of Rimadyl?
>>
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> CVM - Center for Vet Med
> NADA - new animal drug approval.

Most of the sites I can find basically say we don't know the specifics
of how it works... Was hoping maybe someone here might have something a
bit more up to date/inspired.
What made me wonder, is I know ADH activates ADH dependent adenylyl
cyclase, which ramps up the cyclic AMP in the system. I know cAMP is a
fairly generic second messenger.... sooo it may well be involved in the
pathway for however caprofen (aka Rimadyl) works.
I'm going to take a peek through the journal articles available through
the university, and see what I can see.

Dale
buglady - 21 Feb 2007 12:54 GMT
> I'm going to take a peek through the journal articles available through
> the university, and see what I can see.

I had always heard that this was a drug they started using for humans and it
had bad effects on the liver so they dumped it.  There are some human
studies available.  Enter carprofen at PubMed, sort by date, then go to the
end and work backwards.

7037867 - human
6111427  - kidney clearance
7452450 - metabolism of carprofen in rats/dogs/humans
15198222 - Cox 1 & 2/dogs/NSAIDs
11592333 - changes in hemostatic values in dogs

I'd suggest going at it the other way - PubMed search for diabetes insipidus
dogs.
Found one interesting article associating gastrointestinal problems with
polyuria - 12831107

...happy reading
buglady
take out the dog before replying
buglady - 21 Feb 2007 13:53 GMT
This is one on diabetes insipidus you might want to read:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=Ab
stractPlus&list_uids=8944803&query_hl=28&itool=pubmed_DocSum

PubMed ID: 8944803

buglady
take out the dog before replying
Deborah, DVM - 21 Feb 2007 17:19 GMT
Rimadyl is a COX 1 & 2 inhibitor -- it's effects are on the inflammatory
cascade.  I wouldn't think that diabetes insipidus would really have any
impact.  It's also primarily metabolized in the liver not the kidneys.

Rimadyl is known to cause idiopathic acute hepatic failure which can lead to
death.  But this is a pretty unusual occurrence.  Did the dog die from liver
failure?  If not then I doubt it was related to the rimadyl.  (unless of
course you had a bleeding ulcer -- that would be the other "side effect" of
rimadyl -- or any NSAID -- that could lead to death).

Diabetes insipidus can be secondary to pituitary tumors and other fairly
significant diseases -- it can also look just like some pretty serious
diseases -- so it's also possible that the dog died from that disease.  The
only other "link" between DI and rimadyl would be if the dog didn't in fact
have DI but had primary renal disease -- in which case the rimadyl could
potentially worsen the kidney disease.

Deborah DVM

> Anyone know the mode of action of Rimadyl?
>
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>
> Dale
Dale Atkin - 21 Feb 2007 18:00 GMT
> Rimadyl is a COX 1 & 2 inhibitor -- it's effects are on the inflammatory
> cascade.  I wouldn't think that diabetes insipidus would really have any
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> death.  But this is a pretty unusual occurrence.  Did the dog die from liver
> failure?  

Yep. That's what I was told by my guy's breeder when it happend.
I'm not sure if the eventual necropsy bore out those findings, but that
was the initial belief.

The course of treatment for him was basically mild GI
upset-->sulphonamide drugs-->developed stiffness-->Rimadyl-->liver failure

I'm trying to look for a potentially connecting thread. Rather than two
somewhat unusual things, one unusual thing with two different
presentations.

Boy I'm glad its reading week this week...the research continues.

Dale
 
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