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HOWEDY dale you pathetic miserable stinkin
lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active
acute chronic life long incurable MENTAL CASE,

Subject: Re: Anyone else notice an increase in Jerry around here?

You mean Jerry HOWE, The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin
Insanely Simply Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy
And Horsey Wizard, dale?

"Dale Atkin" <labrador1@ibycus.com> wrote in message news:OQmLh.
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SPELLIN is The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy And Horsey Wizard's
J-O-B, dale: "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards/for they are
subtle and quick to anger," Tolkein <{): ~) >

The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing
Grand Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy And Horsey Wizard NEVER
vacations, dale: There's NO REST for the WICKED, dale.

EVIL NEVER SLEEPS.

Isaiah 48:22 "There is no peace, saith the Lord, unto the wicked."

You mean 'back arHOWEND', dale. The Sincerely Incredibly
Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, Pussy,
And Horsey Wizard NEVER LEFT, dale, HE was just ENJOYIN
watchin you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal murderin punk
thug coward active acute chronic life long incurable MENTAL
CASES jerkin chokin shockin bribin cratin sexually mutilatin
an MURDERIN innocent defenseless dumb critters an LYIN
abHOWET it.

Hadn't you notice perry MURDERED her old dog on
accHOWENTA she COULDN'T GIVE IT MEDICATION
on accHOWENT she was AFRAID of perry for HURTIN
her?

Well, she don't have to BE AFRAID of perry
nodoGdameneDMOORE, eh dale?

And did you just happen to watch elegy MURDER her
new RESCUE dog Homer, who someHOWE managed
to LIVE till the age of 12 years withHOWET GETTIN
MURDERED, till she offered to jerk an choke and
withHOWELD bribes and intimidate her?

And had you noticed lynne's last TWO RESCUE dog
GO BACK to their RESCUES for attackin her and her
kats?

Those temperament problems are PROBABLY
caused by BAD GENES or BACKYARD / PUPPY
MILL breeders, eh, dale?

You mean 'anyHOWE', you pathetic ignorameHOWES coward.

HOWE COME would anyWON wanna do THAT, dale?

You mean, folks who DON'T HURT an MURDER
innocent defenseless dumb critters an LIE abHOWET
it, dale? You mean Jerry's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog, Child, Kat And Horse Training Method
Manual Students, dale?

You mean the MENTAL PATIENTS who HURT INTIMIDATE
MUTILATE an MURDER dogs an LIE abHOWET IT, dale?

You mean, heelp KILLFILE Jerry Howe, The Sincerely
Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing Grand
Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy And Horsey Wizard and
HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog, Child,
Kat And Horse Training Method Manual Students, dale?

Seems your KILLFILE advice DON'T WORK on your puter, eh, dale?

Yeah.

"ALMOST" must be the key word, eh, dale?

BWEEEAAAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

Actually dale, THAT'S HOWE COME The Sincerely
Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing Grand
Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy And Horsey Wizard has
limited HIS Postings here abHOWETS over the past
few weeks, on accHOWENTA you pathetic ignorameHOWESES
tend not to post your IDIOCY when CASE HISTORY
DATA PROVES that ALL temperament and behavior
problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING as you
and your punk thug coward mental case pals PREFER.

WithHOWET you punk thug cowards POSTIN here,
The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy And
Horsey Wizard COULDN'T IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE
an DISCREDIT you bums <{); ~ )  >

HOWE COME would anyWON wanna email you, dale?
You're nuthin but a pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal
murderin coward and active acute chronic life long incurable
mental case.

For WHAAAAT, dale? You're a aspiring veterinarian?

Oh, well then, THAT would EXXXPLAIN HOWE COME
you're SCARED TO DEATH that The Sincerely Incredibly
Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, Pussy,
Birdy And Horsey Wizard has PROVEN that ALL temperament
and behavior problems and 90% of ALL DIS-EASE are CAUSED
BY mishandling, garbage commercial dog food and your own
TOXIC VETERINARY TREATMENTS.

Well then dale, perhaps you should be workin on THAT
instead of IDENTIFYING EXXXPOSING and DISCREDITING
yourself here on The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy And Horsey Wizard's
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esearch Laboratory <{); ~ )  >

WELCOME!

I'm Jerry Howe, The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy And Horsey Wizard<{) ; ~ ) >

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Here's some ADVICE, dale:

Subject:    Dog Whisperer Book Recommendations?

From:  starrk...@aol.com - view profile
Date:  Sun, May 14 2006 7:34 pm
Email:   "starrk...@aol.com" <starrk...@aol.com>

Mike wrote:

hi mike ,
coming from someone who has spent a lot of time and money
with dog training books, i have probably 6 or 7, dont waste
your time! share Jerry Howe's wits end training Manuel with
your friend and help him/her work the exercises.

you guys will be amazed after you try the "hot and cold"
exercise and you have a calm happy dog in minutes!

if you want to read how jerry helped me and my dog google me!

Crystal Arcidy

Subject:   reasons to rethink old fashioned veiws on training/
behavior

From:  starrk...@aol.com
Date:  Thurs, May 18 2006 3:16 pm
Email:   "starrk...@aol.com" <starrk...@aol.com>

Hello...
There were a lot of topics in that post, and if it wasn't serious it
would almost be comical how dense some people are. unfortunately
it is the dogs (or kids) who end up suffering or confused and that is
serious.

The situation with the puppy nipping would be very simple to solve.
The worst thing to do is to make a big deal out of it either by
giving
toys to play with (redirecting) or yelling (whether out of pain,
shock
or anger), since this will heighten the emotional state of the puppy
and reinforce the behavior. Every time the puppy gets a strong
emotional reaction within himself the behavior is reinforced. This
includes the idea of ignoring him. He will only get frustrated and
may
try harder to get attention, maybe nip harder. All that is needed is
PRAISE.

If he is persistent a snap of the fingers on his right followed
by verbal praise. if he still latches on another snap on his left and
praise and so on. most likely, he would only need praise before he
his
attention is snapped up (maybe out of confusion, half expecting a
yelp)

when he looks up , more praise! the behavior of nipping would
disappear. There is no need for spraying water or causing him
any sort of confusion, discomfort or stress.

this advise:

ignoring the behavior? that will make it more pronounced.

"Attention
Seeking Behaviour progresses through the following stages as the
need becomes more and more acute and more excruciating to the
individual who is experiencing the energetic shortfall in a visceral,
whole body experience:

1. Awareness
Here, the creature (child, dog, cat, horse) first becomes aware
that the shortfall exists and begins to look around for a likely
"other" who may fulfil this need.

2. Approach
The creature will get up and start approaching the other and
make some minor signs that it is in need of some attention.
In an animal, that would probably be just coming over and
presenting themselves whilst looking at the other.

3. Escalation
If the other ignores (read "refuses to provide the attention
energy") this subtle approach, creature A will now escalate
its behaviours to "break on through" the barrier of ignoring
- make sounds, push physically, engage in behaviours that have
previously worked to "gain attention".

4. Extreme Escalation
If these higher level behaviours are also ignored, the need turns to
a
pain and will now drive consecutively more extreme behaviour in turn
in
a direct cause and effect relationship. If the need is high enough,
the
creature may even attack.

5. Catastrophic Collapse
If still no energy is forthcoming, the system collapses in on itself
in a catastrophic implosion which causes severe neurological damage;
the stage beyond rage is autism, where the creature can no longer
elicit the energy required nor process it when it is being offered
because of the damage sustained by the receptors of the energy
processing system during the catastrophe.

Depending on the severity of the neurological/energetic catastrophe
and the age of the creature at which the catastrophe occurred
(obviously the younger the creature, the greater the impact on the
system overall), some individuals may never come back from the
autism stage and remain there forever. " ---- taken from:

Unconditional Love, Trust And Respect - The Alpha THEORY, - CRUCIFIED
-

A. S. Neill, Tthe Famous Founder of The Summerhill School, Used To
Cure

Delinquent Children Way Back In The 1950's By Paying Them For Every
Time They Wet The Bed Or Broke A Pane Of Glass And Their Behaviour
Would Stop, - As If By

And This made me think of my dog Starr;

Yeah my dog used to be like that when she was insecure and needing
attention all the time. All this other dog needs is to be noticed and
to learn how to relax when its "down time." I remember teaching starr
that when i went to play the piano she needed to relax and not worry
about the fact that my attention was not on her. It didn't take long
and she settled down. here's what i did;

I love to play the piano. The problem was that Starr, my
white GSD got impatient and didn?t like all my attention being
on something else.

When I'd play for more then 20 minutes without stopping shed
pace around the room and whine. Shed look straight at me
whining loudly, wagging her tail and sometimes stomping her feet.

I mentioned it to Jerry and he told me how to handle it. What
I had to do was break her 20 minutes tolerance time just before it
was up in order to restart her clock.

I started playing and played for about 18 minutes then stopped,
closed the book and the cover for the keys, walked across the room
busied myself for just a moment before returning to the piano,
opening
the cover and a book and starting to play again.

Starr watched me as I did this. She was distracted from her
set time limits, but she didn't know that my actions had anything
to do with her, which is good since in this case the whining was
an attention getting device.

And so she stayed in the room with me, comfortable and relaxed,
not concerned with the fact that she wasn't getting any attention.
15 minutes later I got up and walked away from the piano. I took a
book from the shelf and went back to sit at my piano.

Starr again watched me until I started playing. I played for
a few minutes longer then stood and turned my attention to my dog
and asked if she wanted to come with me as I left the room.

I planned to do this exercise a few more times over the next couple
of days but there was no need. As of yet Starr has not returned to
whining and pacing. She simply lays down or watches out the window
while I practice, and happy to get attention when I turn to her or
when
I'm done.

I'd like to note that a while ago, before we found the Wits' End
Training Method if Starr heard the piano from another room she
would whine or bark to get me to come back. It seemed to cause
her anxiety to hear the piano and know that I was going to be
away from her for as long as she heard it. But she was uncomfortable
in the room where the piano is because it was formerly off limits to
her while she was being house broken.

Even though she has been allowed in the room for a long time she
was never content being in there for long.

Now if she hears the piano and she's not in the room with me she
comes and finds me, says hi with a kiss, wagging tail and happy face
then makes herself comfortable as I play.

now when Starr whines about something i ask her what she wants and
she'll lead me to something or just look at the thing she wants and
usually ill give it to her, if i cant right then i ask her to "wait
for
me" or answer her calmly ,"no, you have you to go lay down  and
relax"
and she will.

animals are always trying to get to their 'comfort zone' whether
through anxious licking to calm external anxiety or to a crate that
offers a false sense of security, or to the food that he feel he has
to
eat or he will lose, or simply to go outside to pee!  if dogs they
are
not there they will try to get there somehow. the wider that zone is
the easier they are to deal with, obviously. and if the dogs comfort
is
in his handler, meaning he knows all his needs will be met, he
requests
will be heard, he will be following a trustworthy leader, he could be
happy almost anywhere doing almost anything.

Crystal

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