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Mast Cell Tumour

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Mags - 17 Apr 2007 10:59 GMT
Hi All
I wrote a few months ago about my dog who had a lump removed (grade 1-2) and
received lots of great info from you.  I've been feeding him (8yo Jack
Russell) raw diet with no carbohydrates and he has been so healthy and
energetic!  But today I found another lump just at his neck.  I've called
the vet but wondered what options are.
The first op had dirty margins and I decided not to do chemo or another op
as it was so huge, but have been giving him herbal supplements and seeing a
holistic vet too.  So prior to seeing his usual vet soon, I just wanted to
know, if it is just another little tumour like before, would an op to remove
it be appropriate?
Any input or advice would be great; I knew this was going to happen but he
has been so energetic of late, that I got a huge shock and am so upset
again.
Thanks again for taking time to respond.
Mags
Spot - 17 Apr 2007 14:36 GMT
Get it biopsied ASAP and see what it is.  If it's a mast cell have it
removed this is not something you want to mess with.  I would also suggest
putting the dog on benedryl and cimetadine on a daily basis.  It's shown
that benedryl helps keeps the histamine that the mast cell dumps in the
system in check and prevents the chance of anaphyalactic shock.  I kept
Barney on this daily for over 5 years and I feel while it didn't stop the
mast cell completely that it did slow it down considerably.

Celeste

> Hi All
> I wrote a few months ago about my dog who had a lump removed (grade 1-2)
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> Thanks again for taking time to respond.
> Mags
buglady - 17 Apr 2007 19:53 GMT
my dog who had a lump removed (grade 1-2) and
> received lots of great info from you.  I've been feeding him (8yo Jack
> Russell) raw diet with no carbohydrates and he has been so healthy and
> energetic!  But today I found another lump just at his neck
> The first op had dirty margins

.......so how big is this one?  Might not necessarily be mast cell.  My
personal preference, though is to take it all off, no needle biopsy, wedge
biopsy or anything else in a dog with previous cancer.  If it's small enough
to get really clean margins, just get it off.

seeing a
> holistic vet too.
........I'd give them a call and see what they think also.  Also check what
sups or herbs you should discontinue before surgery - like Vit E.

 So prior to seeing his usual vet soon, I just wanted to
> know, if it is just another little tumour like before, would an op to remove
> it be appropriate?
......I don't see why not.  Someone was telling me about their dog once, who
was very young when he started getting mast cell tumors.  I think he's had 3
or so removed and still going. over a period of years.
.....I'd just take it off ASAP with the biggest margins they can take.  I'll
bet he'll fly through the surgery just fine.

Hope you have many more days with your pup
buglady
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Mags - 18 Apr 2007 00:12 GMT
> my dog who had a lump removed (grade 1-2) and
>> received lots of great info from you.  I've been feeding him (8yo Jack
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> buglady
> take out the dog before replying

thanks for quick replies.  This lump is the same size as the other one was,
ie about the size of a large grape.  Hope to get to the vet today and get it
seen to asap.
Thanks again!  He's just too healthy and happy to be sick :-)
BTW, does anyone know if dogs are in any pain or discomfort with the actual
tumours themselves?  Does this start once other signs manifest, ie, lack of
appetite, lethargy, etc?
Mags
buglady - 18 Apr 2007 01:00 GMT
> BTW, does anyone know if dogs are in any pain or discomfort with the actual
> tumours themselves?  Does this start once other signs manifest, ie, lack of
> appetite, lethargy, etc?

..........If the tumors are large they can get upset stomachs.   Mast cells
are a normal part of the immune system - even we have them!  They do produce
histamine though, so the bigger the lump the more histamine, which is what
makes them feel nausous.  There's meds that can take care of that........but
that's way down the line - or never.

buglady
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Mags - 20 Apr 2007 02:25 GMT
>> BTW, does anyone know if dogs are in any pain or discomfort with the
> actual
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> buglady
> take out the dog before replying

Just to update; vet said it was just a slightly swollen lymph node (he had a
little cut/scab on his ear which he thought may have caused it) so
prescribed Clavulox antibiotics but to keep an eye on it.  Feel a lot
better, thanks again!
Mags
buglady - 20 Apr 2007 02:46 GMT
> Just to update; vet said it was just a slightly swollen lymph node (he had a
> little cut/scab on his ear which he thought may have caused it) so
> prescribed Clavulox antibiotics but to keep an eye on it.  Feel a lot
> better, thanks again!

.........dodged that bullet!  What good news!

buglady
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