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? on dog recovering from eating rat-poison

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Dave - 10 Aug 2007 02:34 GMT
Briefly, my Mother-In-Law's MinPin (21 lbs) ate some rat poison and wasn't
treated until two days later.  She then received a plasma transfusion (1
unit) and injections of vitamin K along with oxygen therapy.  Since that
time she has been getting better almost by the hour, with increased appetite
and positive behavioral signs, but today I noticed that the last few drops
of her urine are bloody.  I watch for stuff like this, and am certain it was
not the case until today (she got the rat poison almost exactly a week ago.)
She is being given 25mg of vitamin K twice a day, and is taken in and out as
needed (I am at home with her 24 hours a day for the time being.)  Her
activity is severely limited, as per the vet's instructions, but last night
did get away from us briefly and jumped up onto and then down off of the
bed.  She has gotten her appetite back and defecates normally, (three times
today!) although yesterday the last half of one piece of feces was white and
mucuosy.  That has not recurred.  The emergency clinic says that as long as
she appears to be improving, taking her in can wait until morning (Friday
morning, the 10th)  and that it may just be a bladder infection.  Are there
any vets in the group who would disagree with that general position?  We
have already spent a small fortune on her care, and are honestly at our
limits.  But we are concerned.  Any knowledgable opinion is welcome.  I know
that bloody urine is *not* normal, but I am not a vet and do not know the
ramifications of what she has already been through.  If you have an opinion,
please offer some information as to why you think that way.

Thanking the group most sincerely,

Dave
Dave - 10 Aug 2007 02:38 GMT
Forgot to mention, the rat poison brand name was Havoc, and contained
Brodisacoum (and the emergency vet said they see this so often it is
unbelievable.  *HE* even told *us* the brand name before we got a chance to
tell him.)

> Briefly, my Mother-In-Law's MinPin (21 lbs) ate some rat poison and wasn't
> treated until two days later.  She then received a plasma transfusion (1
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> Dave
Dave - 10 Aug 2007 16:01 GMT
Update: Just saw the regular vet, who ran some tests and said she is doing
fine, just continue to keep an eye on her.  This is apparently not unusual
for a dog who has eaten rat poison, and doesn't necessarrily mean anything.
She seems to be feeling better than ever, so I guess it's nothing to worry
about.  Vet said come back in a month, and keep the dog crated for the rest
of a full week before slowly increasing her activity.

Dave

> Forgot to mention, the rat poison brand name was Havoc, and contained
> Brodisacoum (and the emergency vet said they see this so often it is
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>> Dave
buglady - 10 Aug 2007 22:22 GMT
> Update: Just saw the regular vet, who ran some tests and said she is doing
> fine, just continue to keep an eye on her.  This is apparently not unusual
> for a dog who has eaten rat poison,

......well, that's certainly good news!  If your vets have run into this
kind of poison numerous times, they're really the best resource for
questions like this.

buglady
take out the dog before replying
Dave - 13 Aug 2007 16:41 GMT
Update II  dog is doing better than ever.  Even back to her old bratty
habits. :)  Dropped her off at her mom's home this AM, and she didn't act
like she knew what to do when we started to leave.  Sweet dog.

Take it easy...

Dave

When in trouble
Or in doubt
Run in circles
Scream and shout

> Update: Just saw the regular vet, who ran some tests and said she is doing
> fine, just continue to keep an eye on her.  This is apparently not unusual
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bruce - 11 Aug 2007 03:51 GMT
> Briefly, my Mother-In-Law's MinPin (21 lbs) ate some rat poison and wasn't
> treated until two days later.  She then received a plasma transfusion (1
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> Dave

since the recheck was normal, you really should not have too many
concerns.

the vitK should be used for three weeks to prevent reoccurance of the
clotting problem.

the "blood" in the urine can be several things. 1 is a side effect of
the poisoning where there was a blood clot in the bladder for a long
time (week or so) and it just now let go and you saw it. 2 is a direct
effect of the poisoning that indicates there is still some poison in
the system, but it generally is under control. 3 is that there is
something else abnormal in the bladder and it is just a coincidence
that you saw the blood now.  the first two ruleouts would be a bladder
infection, or a bladder stone.  4 is that the blood you saw was
actually not blood, just discolored urine, or a foreign object that
was peed on and did not even come from the bladder in the first place.

the mucous on the stool is simply an indication of surface irritation
of the intestine.  it can come from anywhere in the intestine (upper
or lower), can be from small areas or large areas, and can be of no
consequence or an indication of upcoming problems.  the best thing to
do there is to watch subsequent defecations for several days or a week
and confirm that it does not occur again.  if it does then the
simplest thing to do is take THAT fecal sample in for analysis of
foreign bodies, worms. frank blood, digested blood, undigested food,
and then proceed from there depending on what is found (or not found).
 
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