cooked chicken bones and dogs
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MauiJNP - 17 Aug 2007 17:44 GMT if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a problem or is it just a possibility?
maui got into some trash that was on the back deck and may have eaten some bone by the time I can back. one website said to just keep a close eye on him for problems going to the bathroom and change in activity and also feed lots of rice over the next couple of days. i am waiting for a vet to get back to me.
any thoughts on this?
Paul E. Schoen - 17 Aug 2007 18:30 GMT > if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a > problem or is it just a possibility? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > any thoughts on this? I was concerned the first time Muttley got into the trash and ate the bones from a bucket of KFC fried chicken. The vet just said to watch for normal behavior and regular pooping. His poops were almost white, and dried up like chunks of plaster, but he was OK. Then a friend said she gave chicken bones all the time to her small dog, and never had problems. So I would give them to Muttley, and I saw that he took his time chewing them, and so I was no longer concerned.
However, others on RPDB pleaded with me not to do that, and when I called my vet, she said it was not good. Someone also explained that dogs do not have molars to chew the bones into a safe, splinter free form. I asked about using a blender or food processor to grind up the bones, but it's probably best to avoid them totally.
If Maui usually chews his food carefully, I would be much less concerned than if he tends to inhale his food. I think that is how diddy's dog Tuck almost died.
Best of luck, and we hope everything "comes out OK".
Paul, Muttley and Lucky
pfoley - 17 Aug 2007 18:52 GMT > if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a > problem or is it just a possibility? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > any thoughts on this? =========== I would say just a possibility. I bet most dogs have gotten into the trash at least once and eaten chicken bones and nothing happened. But, I would never feed a dog chicken bones. Actually, I don't give my dog any bones at all.
Melinda Shore - 17 Aug 2007 19:39 GMT >if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a >problem or is it just a possibility? There aren't many guarantees anywhere, and there's no guarantee here, either. The issue is that when something goes wrong it goes very, very wrong. Talking to the vet is almost always a good thing.
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MauiJNP - 17 Aug 2007 20:50 GMT >>if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a >>problem or is it just a possibility? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > goes wrong it goes very, very wrong. Talking to the vet is > almost always a good thing. the vet got back to me and said that I should keep an eye on him and if I notice any unusual stool, vomitting, belly tenderness or activity level to bring him in. she told me to stuff him full of food to help add bulk and cushion any bones or pieces that many have gotten in (he might not have even had any). I gave him two pieces of bread, some rice and later more rice and some potatoes. he will get more food than normal for a few days as well. i will be home most of the weekend but will make sure he is not alone at any time. so it will be a stressful few days here.
Melinda Shore - 17 Aug 2007 20:55 GMT >I gave him two pieces of bread, some rice and later more rice and >some potatoes. he will get more food than normal for a few days as well. I hope he's not so smart that he figures out that if he wants to eat eat eat he needs to eat something sharp first. I hate to say it but some dogs (not mentioning any names) might take advantage.
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MauiJNP - 17 Aug 2007 21:20 GMT >>I gave him two pieces of bread, some rice and later more rice and >>some potatoes. he will get more food than normal for a few days as well. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I hate to say it but some dogs (not mentioning any names) > might take advantage. I hope the only lesson learned here is that even in the dark or rain, take the trash bag to the can instead of just putting it on the back deck and forgetting it was there while I let the dogs out the next morning.
Ebbtide - 17 Aug 2007 21:01 GMT >>>if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a >>>problem or is it just a possibility? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > as well. i will be home most of the weekend but will make sure he is not > alone at any time. so it will be a stressful few days here. Rice is good, potatoes and bread are not. Just add the rice to his reg. food. Don't overload him w/ food. My dog has woofed bones down whole and did fine. She is a real scavenger. I swear if she could talk she would tell everyone I never feed her.
MauiJNP - 17 Aug 2007 21:21 GMT >> the vet got back to me and said that I should keep an eye on him and if I >> notice any unusual stool, vomitting, belly tenderness or activity level [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Rice is good, potatoes and bread are not. Just add the rice to his reg. > food. Don't overload him w/ food. what makes you say that?
>My dog has woofed bones down whole and did fine. She is a real scavenger. >I swear if she could talk she would tell everyone I never feed her. Maui would be telling the same story.
redbordy - 19 Aug 2007 09:19 GMT > if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a > problem or is it just a possibility? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > any thoughts on this? hi I know that cooked chicken bones can cause problems in dogs. They can when they break down splinter and then the dog has trouble doing number 2,s. If you know what i mean. You should always give your dog raw chicken bones but seeing that it was an accident, just keep an eye on whats going on in the toilet department. cheers
MauiJNP - 20 Aug 2007 18:37 GMT >> if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a >> problem or is it just a possibility? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > raw chicken bones but seeing that it was an accident, just keep an eye > on whats going on in the toilet department. cheers thanks
diddy - 20 Aug 2007 18:54 GMT "MauiJNP" <jmh1116@ptd.net> spoke these words of wisdom in news:eJqdnVBQ- 6zWTFTbnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@ptd.net:
>>> if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a >>> problem or is it just a possibility? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > thanks My dog ate a chicken wing tip (raw) that he took from a bucket as I was butchering chickens. It punctured his stomach, and ripped his intestines causing peritonitis, and the encasing omentum tried to plug the leaks resulting in intestinal strangulation and death. He lost a summer, and nearly his life.
I will never feed my dog any bones cooked or raw.
MauiJNP - 20 Aug 2007 19:51 GMT >>> hi I know that cooked chicken bones can cause problems in dogs. They >>> can when they break down splinter and then the dog has trouble doing [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I will never feed my dog any bones cooked or raw. I don't give cooked or raw bones either (on purpose). I still remember the details of the nightmare situation you went thru and wish to avoid it.
diddy - 21 Aug 2007 01:04 GMT >>>> hi I know that cooked chicken bones can cause problems in dogs. They >>>> can when they break down splinter and then the dog has trouble doing [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > the details of the nightmare situation you went thru and wish to avoid > it. If Tuck's experience saves any dog, it's worth the retelling.
Paula - 19 Aug 2007 16:57 GMT >if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a >problem or is it just a possibility? Far more often than not, there is no problem at all. Think of all the dogs who raid trash cans over and over again. When I was growing up, there was a dog in the neighborhood that hit every trash can on the street every week. I'm sure he ate a ton of chicken bones. So, don't panic. Chances are very good that everything will be just fine. You never want to feed your dogs the bones because you don't even want to take that chance, but if they get one, there's no reason to assume that it will be a disaster. Keep an eye on things so that if there is a problem you get medical help right away, but otherwise, relax.
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MauiJNP - 20 Aug 2007 18:40 GMT >>if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a >>problem or is it just a possibility? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > that it will be a disaster. Keep an eye on things so that if there is > a problem you get medical help right away, but otherwise, relax. relaxing was hard to do but I am much better now. i just got back from the vet. Maui's been having loose stool since Thursday (the day before the chicken incident) and basically brown water the past 2 days so I wanted him checked. they did bloodwork, xray, among other things. he is now on 2 meds a day for an upset tummy. most expensive upset tummy around but at least i don't have to worry about chicken bones anyway so thats something.
montana wildhack - 20 Aug 2007 19:15 GMT > they did bloodwork, xray, among other things. he is now on 2 meds a > day for an upset tummy. most expensive upset tummy around but at least > i don't have to worry about chicken bones anyway so thats something. It's odd how expensive peace of mind can be.
I'm glad to hear that you no longer have to worry about the chicken bones.
MauiJNP - 20 Aug 2007 19:53 GMT >> they did bloodwork, xray, among other things. he is now on 2 meds a day >> for an upset tummy. most expensive upset tummy around but at least i >> don't have to worry about chicken bones anyway so thats something. > > It's odd how expensive peace of mind can be. yeah, it sure is. I just got a MP3 player for using in the car and while I study. I wanted to get the semi-cheap model because I am trying to save money. For what I just paid at the vets office, I could have gotten 4 semi-cheap MP3 players.
> I'm glad to hear that you no longer have to worry about the chicken bones. thanks, me too!
Paula - 20 Aug 2007 23:55 GMT >>>if a dog eats some cooked chicken bones, are they guaranteed to have a >>>problem or is it just a possibility? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >a day for an upset tummy. most expensive upset tummy around but at least i >don't have to worry about chicken bones anyway so thats something. Sammie yelped when I petted his head Friday afternoon. That is not like him at all. I looked into his ears and saw a bunch of gunk in there. I called the vet and they said they couldn't fit him in until Monday. I knew it was most likely just an infection and it couldn't kill him, but I still couldn't just relax. I took him to the emergency vet. It cost a whole lot more, but I got peace of mind. I know it's hard to just relax. But if there is nothing you can do, like with the chicken bone, you have to just try. Dogs read your stress and if affects them.
I'm glad everything worked out fine with the bone, but sorry that there were other problems. Hopefully, he will get better and stop scaring you with scarfing chicken bones or getting upset stomachs, the ingrate! :)
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MauiJNP - 21 Aug 2007 04:39 GMT > Sammie yelped when I petted his head Friday afternoon. That is not > like him at all. I looked into his ears and saw a bunch of gunk in > there. I called the vet and they said they couldn't fit him in until > Monday. I knew it was most likely just an infection and it couldn't > kill him, but I still couldn't just relax. I took him to the > emergency vet. It cost a whole lot more, but I got peace of mind. is he fine now? I hope so. ear infections are not fun. Maui used to get them all the time when he was younger and it finally stopped with a switch in dog food (chicken to lamb). for a while though, I felt like I lived at the vet and that his ears would never get better.
> I'm glad everything worked out fine with the bone, but sorry that > there were other problems. Hopefully, he will get better and stop > scaring you with scarfing chicken bones or getting upset stomachs, the > ingrate! :) I hope so! Days like these I swear I will send the little brat off to a Swiss boarding school!
Paula - 22 Aug 2007 08:07 GMT >> Sammie yelped when I petted his head Friday afternoon. That is not >> like him at all. I looked into his ears and saw a bunch of gunk in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >in dog food (chicken to lamb). for a while though, I felt like I lived at >the vet and that his ears would never get better. I know he is feeling a lot better because he doesn't have a fit when I put the medicine in his ear. You could tell it hurt to get the drops in there with the little tip before. Now he doesn't seem to mind at all, and it definitely doesn't hurt him. He got dragged around by the ear tonight in a wrestling match without yelping, which further convinced me the medicine is doing its job even though he is only about halfway through his course of meds. My daughters are really happy that he's feeling better. I needed their help to keep the squirming down so I could get the drops in the ear. But it just about killed them to see him like that and have to help pin him down and take his medicine no matter how much it seemed to hurt him. Now that he's cool about it, they don't have to watch him suffer or even help hold him down. In fact, now Scooter wants ear drops. When Sammie is being told that he is such a good boy after the drops, Scooter tries to jump up and get in my lap for his turn.
I really liked the emergency vet's style. He expalained that floppy eared dogs can have a lot of ear problems and gave pointers on how to prevent them, but also said that since this is his first, I shouldn't worry that he is going to have a lot of ear problems. Good mix of on top of things and laid back. Much as I liked him, I'll be happy if we never have to see him again, though, so I hope he's right about it most likely not being anything to worry about. My wallet would be just as happy never to have to see the emergency vet again, too.
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