> 1. in http://www.ibycus.com/nntppics/rh.JPG What's the little white spot
> just south of the tibia? Also, the black line distal to the patella...what
> is it?
>
The white spot appears to be as dense as bone, which I would not expect.
The radiograph (or is it your picture?) is quite blurry, though. If it's
the radiograph, then the dog was moving when the radiograph was being
taken. This can make things a little harder to identify. The spot looks
like it's just outside of the dog's leg, which would make it either
something on the fur or something on the radiograph plate. If it's just
under the skin (you should be able to feel it) then the most typical
cause for something like this is a BB or a piece of shotgun shot. In
those cases, the object should have a density of metal, which I wouldn't
say your spot has, although it is fuzzy so that may affect that
determination.
I'm not sure about the black line to which you refer. Is there a chance
that's the patellar tendon running from the distal patella to the tibial
tuberosity?
> 2. Also, looking at http://www.ibycus.com/nntppics/lelbowlat.JPG and
> http://www.ibycus.com/nntppics/relbowlat.JPG . The left is the 'ouchy' one,
> the right is the 'good' one. What would you pick up on as being a problem?
> (http://www.ibycus.com/nntppics/belbows.JPG seems much clearer to me, but I
> think I can see the problems in the other one too).
>
Thanks, I'm still digesting everything you said... It may take me a little
while. In the meantime I've interspersed a few comments where I can.
>> 1. in http://www.ibycus.com/nntppics/rh.JPG What's the little white spot
>> just south of the tibia? Also, the black line distal to the
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> the radiograph, then the dog was moving when the radiograph was being
> taken.
Its probably my picture, rather than the actual radiograph. He was pretty
well tranq'ed at the time the pictures were taken. Also note that this
isn't necessarily to scale as its taken at an angle looking up.
> This can make things a little harder to identify. The spot looks like it's
> just outside of the dog's leg, which would make it either something on the
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> have a density of metal, which I wouldn't say your spot has, although it
> is fuzzy so that may affect that determination.
Definitely *not* a BB or piece of shotgun shot. I've had him since he was a
baby, and he's never been away from me for more than about 24 hours since
the day I got him. I'll try and have a peak at the original on Saturday, and
make sure its not just my picture.
> I'm not sure about the black line to which you refer. Is there a chance
> that's the patellar tendon running from the distal patella to the tibial
> tuberosity?
I've uploaded a pic with the black line circled...
http://www.ibycus.com/nntppics/darkline.JPG
>> 2. Also, looking at http://www.ibycus.com/nntppics/lelbowlat.JPG and
>> http://www.ibycus.com/nntppics/relbowlat.JPG . The left is the 'ouchy'
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> anterior aspect of the proximal radius ("fluffiness" in the inner angle
> created by the upper and lower parts of the arm)
That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure if I was imagining it or not.
> and osteophytes on the posterior aspect of the distal humerus (fluffiness
> on the outer angle to the left of the point of the elbow).
I'd missed that, but I *think* I see it now.
> Note the significant motion artifacts in the radiograph of the right
> elbow. Also note the human phalangeal bones in this radiograph. Hint, use
> full gloves or at least make sure your fingers are fully under the lead
> with those hand shields.
:) not my hands, honest. One of the techs took this picture.
> The anterioposterior (AP) view of both elbows shows the osteophytes quite
> readily on the medial aspect of the joint. They're on the medial humeral
> epicondyle and the medial ulna. Erwin most likely has a fragmented
> coronoid process, a type of elbow dysplasia, but I guess you know that
> already.
I'm having a hard time seeing the changes on the right elbow, but I'll
squint really hard and keep trying.
That was the same conclusion they came to... my poor boy. He's on all kinds
of stuff right now to help. Cartrophen injections spaced at 10 days apart, a
joint supplement (CT Support), Meloxicam pills as needed.
> Also note on this view, the same type of artifact seen in the lateral
> stifle film. On this film it's actually 3 pieces and they're medial to the
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>
> Good luck,
Thanks I'm sure a lot will come with experience... which is exactly what I'm
trying to get.
Dale
> Sandy, DVM
Sandy, DVM - 19 Jan 2008 01:32 GMT
I think his right elbow looks good. Be aware, though, that elbow
dysplasia is often bilateral, but not always as severe on both sides.
Sandy, DVM
> I'm having a hard time seeing the changes on the right elbow, but I'll
> squint really hard and keep trying.