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Pet Forum / Miscellaneous / Animal Health / March 2008Bordetella
How often should dogs receive this vaccination? My vet in NY says only when/before boarding, but the vet in SC says routinely every year. Does it depend on the climate? I think it depends more on the expected interaction with other dogs. The vaccine is 'good for a year' (what ever that means). If they aren't likely to be exposed to it, then they don't need the shot. Likely exposure is anywhere with a high density of dogs (like a boarding kennel). I do my guys because we visit the dog park just about every single day. Also bear in mind that the bordetella vaccine isn't completely effective. Sometimes they'll get it anyways, it just reduces the chances. Dale > How often should dogs receive this vaccination? My vet in NY says only > when/before boarding, but the vet in SC says routinely every year. > Does it depend on the climate? It really depends on the lifestyle, Luca. For dogs that regularly interact with other dogs (dog parks, etc.) then we recommend annual re-vaccination. The label on the vaccine recommends giving it annually, but there are some studies which show the immunity may only last 6 months or so. Some boarding kennels require the vaccine every 6 months, and we'll abide by that if that's where the clients are boarding their dogs. In our practice, if a dog doesn't interact with other dogs much and they don't board or get groomed, then we don't recommend the vaccine. That said, it's even more important for those dogs to get the vaccine (preferably the intranasal variety) within 2 weeks of going into the kennel (and not less than 3-4 days), if boarding is required. So, there's no easy pat answer, but there are lots of variables to consider and discuss with your veterinarian. Sandy, DVM > How often should dogs receive this vaccination? My vet in NY says only > when/before boarding, but the vet in SC says routinely every year. > Does it depend on the climate? I titer my dogs, but after the first few times discovered that at one year, the bordetella numbers were consistently low, whereas the other values were fine. So I went back to just immunizing for that rather than wasting $ on the test. I tend to believe the ~6 months may be closer to the truth there. I do have them vac'd (intranasal, although my dogs find that disgusting, LOL) for bordetella because they go to class & agility. But one vet also pointed out that if I ever had to board in a hurry, ie family/personal emergency, and the dogs weren't vac'd for it, I'd have a hard time getting in because the kennels all wanted it given ahead of time. > It really depends on the lifestyle, Luca. For dogs that regularly > interact with other dogs (dog parks, etc.) then we recommend annual [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> when/before boarding, but the vet in SC says routinely every year. >> Does it depend on the climate? > I do have them vac'd (intranasal, although my dogs find that disgusting, > LOL) for bordetella because they go to class & agility. Not quite sure why you go intranasal? I was under the impression that the only advantage of intranasal was that it took effect faster. If you know in advance (~2 weeks) then isn't the injectable easier on the dog? (I for one wouldn't like someone shoving that stuff up my nose!) Dale > Not quite sure why you go intranasal? I was under the impression that the > only advantage of intranasal was that it took effect faster. Nope, other way round. Abstract Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association January 1, 2002, Vol. 220, No. 1, Pages 43-48 doi: 10.2460/javma.2002.220.43 Comparative efficacy of an injectable vaccine and an intranasal vaccine in stimulating Bordetella bronchiseptica-reactive antibody responses in seropositive dogs John A. Ellis , DVM, PhD, DACVP, DACVM G. Steven Krakowka , DVM, PhD, DACVP Arthur D. Dayton , PhD Carrie Konoby , BS Department of Veterinary Microbiology, Western College of Veterinary Medicine, University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, SK, Canada S7N 5B4. (Ellis, Konoby); Department of Veterinary Biosciences, College of Veterinary Medicine, The Ohio State University, Columbus, OH 43210. (Krakowka); Pfizer Animal Health, 1 Pfizer Way, Lee's Summit, MO 64081-2998. (Dayton) Objective—To compare antibody responses to intranasal and SC Bordetella bronchiseptica vaccines in seropositive dogs. Design—Randomized controlled study. Animals—40 young adult Beagles vaccinated against B bronchiseptica. Procedure—Dogs were randomly assigned to 1 of 4 groups (intranasal vaccine, SC vaccine, intranasal and SC vaccines, no vaccine) and vaccinated on day 0. Serum and salivary B bronchiseptica-reactive antibody responses were measured on days 0 through 7, 10, 14, 21, and 28. Results—Dogs that were vaccinated with the SC vaccine, alone or in combination with the intranasal vaccine, had a significant increase in serum concentration of B bronchiseptica-reactive IgG beginning on day 5 and persisting through day 28. Dogs that were vaccinated with the intranasal vaccine alone had a significant increase in serum concentration of B bronchiseptica- reactive IgG beginning on day 10 and persisting through day 28, but serum IgG concentration in these dogs was significantly less than concentration in dogs that received the SC vaccine. Neither vaccine had a demonstrable effect on salivary concentrations of B bronchiseptica-reactive IgA or IgG. On day 10, all vaccinated groups had significantly higher serum IgA concentrations than did unvaccinated control dogs. Conclusions and Clinical Relevance—Results suggest that the SC B bronchiseptica vaccine may be used to stimulate antibody responses in seropositive dogs. There was no apparent benefit to administering these vaccines simultaneously. Intranasal vaccines may not be effective for booster vaccination of dogs previously exposed to or immunized against B bronchiseptica. Dogs should be vaccinated at least 5 days prior to exposure to B bronchiseptica. (J Am Vet Med Assoc 2002;220:43–48) If you know in > advance (~2 weeks) then isn't the injectable easier on the dog? (I for one > wouldn't like someone shoving that stuff up my nose!) > > Dale >> Not quite sure why you go intranasal? I was under the impression that the >> only advantage of intranasal was that it took effect faster. > > Nope, other way round. Now that is *very* interesting. I've forwarded this to the vet clinic I'm at to see what they have to say about it. I was positive that they typically go the other way around, but they don't use intranasal all that much, so I could be mistaken. Dale > Now that is *very* interesting. I've forwarded this to the vet clinic I'm at > to see what they have to say about it ........Before one can say anything, best to read the whole journal article. If you check PubMed for this article there may be some others to read also. buglady take out the dog before replying When I first started going to our regular vet, they used the intranasal. Then switched to injectable. Within the next few (forget the number, but not many) visits, they'd switched back to intranasal and said they'd found it worked better, although I forget the exact problem/rationale that prompted the change. I think it had something to do with an increase in bordetella cases in their boarding area in dogs who'd rec'd the IM/SC (whichever it is). >>> Not quite sure why you go intranasal? I was under the impression that the >>> only advantage of intranasal was that it took effect faster. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dale "Sandy, DVM" <nospam@thisaddress.com> wrote in message: > It really depends on the lifestyle, Luca. For dogs that regularly > interact with other dogs (dog parks, etc.) then we recommend annual > re-vaccination. I have to say that I haven't really understood the point of this particular vaccine. It's efficacy is demonstrated to be only 6 months, it doesn't provide any protection against some of the more common strains, and after all, what is it that you're vaccinating against? The doggie equivalent of a cold? A flu? In kennel settings, it's understandable because of how contagious it is, but I don't know how worried JQP should be. In 7 years at the dog park (dogs have had bordatella vaccine only when they've had to be boarded), we've had one regular, whose dog had been vaccinated, come down with KC. That's been it. Suja > "Sandy, DVM" <nospam@thisaddress.com> wrote in message: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > all, what is it that you're vaccinating against? The doggie equivalent of a > cold? A flu? [snip] I think of it along the lines of the human flu vaccine. Many people get the vaccine, but there are a couple of variables that make it worthwhile: 1) will you encounter anyone with the flu this season? 2) will that person be carrying 1 of the 2-4 strains that are in this year's vaccine? If someone has a slightly mutated strain of the flu, then you're likely to get sick whether you had the vaccine or not. As an example, look at this year's flu season. The case numbers were much higher than anticipated and, IIRC, some fairly high number of patients had had the vaccine. This was all because the virus had changed a bit from what was expected. If your dog gets a Bordetella vaccine, then (s)he'll be less likely to get that bacterial infection. If a dog at the dog park or the boarding facility has some garden-variety upper respiratory virus, then your dog is susceptible regardless whether (s)he got the vaccine. The risk will always be there that your dog will get a contagious disease when (s)he is in a group situation, vaccines just lessen the likelihood. I would argue your assertion that "it doesn't provide any protection against some of the more common strains." Bordetella is a common, contagious organism in dogs (and cats). I'm not sure what other "strains" the vaccine can protect against. The situation will never be like it is in human medicine where the patients with respiratory infections are cultured/analyzed/etc. and an exact known organism is monitored for prevalence, then possibly included in some future variation of the vaccine. There's just not enough money in this situation for companies to do this for pets. Sandy, DVM >> "Sandy, DVM" <nospam@thisaddress.com> wrote in message: >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Sandy, DVM Bordatella can possibly be career ending to Scenting (hunting, tracking, SAR, Narcotics, Explosives) dogs. Therefore the conversations in those interest groups constantly drift to, vaccinate and accept time off post vaccine, take the risk of not vaccinating, vaccinate and risk potential nose scarring. I vaccinate every 6 months |
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