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Over the counter dewormer pills question

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krazy - 16 Jul 2008 15:18 GMT
Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with an OTC tape worm
dewormer that is sold at Pet Smart??  I got some to use for the strays that I
feed.

I know someone is going to tell me to go to vet.  I asked my vet and she will
not give any without seeing the cat and I can not afford to take them all in
even if I could catch them.

So please if anyone has ever used them could you please let me know if you
ran into problems??

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John Ross Mc Master - 16 Jul 2008 18:04 GMT
>Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with an OTC tape worm
>dewormer that is sold at Pet Smart??  I got some to use for the strays that I
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>So please if anyone has ever used them could you please let me know if you
>ran into problems??

http://www.1800petmeds.com/Drontal-prod10073-10073.html

Get this. It works.
kraut - 16 Jul 2008 18:21 GMT
>>Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with an OTC tape worm
>>dewormer that is sold at Pet Smart??  I got some to use for the strays that I
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>
>Get this. It works.

Checked above out but it says a prescription is needed and as stated
above I would have to catch them all and take them to vet before she
will give one!!
John Ross Mc Master - 16 Jul 2008 18:37 GMT
>>>Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with an OTC tape worm
>>>dewormer that is sold at Pet Smart??  I got some to use for the strays that I
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>above I would have to catch them all and take them to vet before she
>will give one!!

This is nuts. My advice is to find a vet who will sell you a pill.
Shop around.
Sharon Too - 16 Jul 2008 21:52 GMT
> This is nuts. My advice is to find a vet who will sell you a pill.
> Shop around.

Veterinarians, like doctors, are restricted by state law with regard to
prescription medication. States require that a timely examination be on
record and a valid doctor/patient/client relationship is established. They
are audited. So if the vet needs to examine the patient, it's about good
thorough veterinary medicine (making sure it *is* just tapeworm you're
looking at and not a multitude of other issues - not to mention proper
doseage) and not about making a buck. Losing a license due to prescribing
medication outside regulated limits is not something to sneeze at.

-Sharon
Granby - 16 Jul 2008 22:57 GMT
I know you can't get medication like this from a vet without a trip with the
cat.  When I have done this with a stray, and I have four times, I just buy
the OTC stuff and hope it works.  Sometimes HOPE is all you have.  Thank you
for trying to help the strays anyway.

>>>>Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with an OTC tape worm
>>>>dewormer that is sold at Pet Smart??  I got some to use for the strays
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> This is nuts. My advice is to find a vet who will sell you a pill.
> Shop around.
Fred - 16 Jul 2008 20:16 GMT
>>>Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with an OTC tape worm
>>>dewormer that is sold at Pet Smart??  I got some to use for the strays
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> above I would have to catch them all and take them to vet before she
> will give one!!

       Then there may be a reason for that, beyond just that the vet wants to make
money.  I don't know of anyone deworming stray cats.  How do you know that
one won't get all the medicine and others not get it?  For feral cats, all
you can usually expect to do is feed them and sometime provide them shelter
if needed.  With more resources we can trap and see they get to a vet and
if they're lucky a good home.  Beyond that it get very difficult, and you
could wind up doing more harm than good.

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Lucy - 17 Jul 2008 02:03 GMT
Two things: My understanding is that the OTC dewormer at PetSmart
doesn't work on the same kind of worms that the prescription stuff
kills. And: You can get prescription pet meds without a prescription at
Four Corners:

http://www.4cnrs-asthma-allergy.com/

They're located on Vanuatu in the South Pacific. I have had a cat with
asthma who has used a prescription inhaler for years. All the U.S.
pharmacies charged $260 for it. The Canadian pharmacies only charged
$37, but they required a paper prescription, and my vet doesn't use
paper prescriptions because they could "fall into the wrong hands!"
Don't get me started on the paranoia in THAT statement. Anyway, my BIG
asthma list suggested Vanuatu. Cat owners had been using it for years
and they don't require a scrip. Now I know someone could give me a long,
preachy lecture about "safety" and such crap, but you know, I trust
Canadian pharmacies and overseas pharmacies much more than I do U.S.
pharmacies. More and more of the "U.S." meds are now made and packaged
in India anyhow. I'm planning to order some of my own meds from there.

Anyway, the bottom line: You can order from Four Corners without a
scrip. Only drawback - it takes about four weeks.

Julie

>> Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with an OTC tape worm
>> dewormer that is sold at Pet Smart??  I got some to use for the strays that I
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> So please if anyone has ever used them could you please let me know if you
>> ran into problems??
kraut - 17 Jul 2008 04:55 GMT
Thanks Lucy.

Will check it out.  Sounds like it is what I am looking for.

>Two things: My understanding is that the OTC dewormer at PetSmart
>doesn't work on the same kind of worms that the prescription stuff
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>>> So please if anyone has ever used them could you please let me know if you
>>> ran into problems??
Deborah, DVM - 18 Jul 2008 13:10 GMT
What worms are you looking to treat?  Most OTC wormers only are effective
against roundworms, not hooks or tapes.  We use drontal for cats, it kills
all 3, and while it is a veterinary product, it isn't technically a
prescription product.  You could probably find a vet to sell it to you, or
find an online store that isn't for some odd reason requiring a script.  If
you aren't worried about tapeworms, just look for a product with pyrantel.

Deborah, DVM

> Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with an OTC tape worm
> dewormer that is sold at Pet Smart??  I got some to use for the strays
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> So please if anyone has ever used them could you please let me know if you
> ran into problems??
Dale Atkin - 27 Jul 2008 22:05 GMT
> What worms are you looking to treat?  Most OTC wormers only are effective
> against roundworms, not hooks or tapes.  We use drontal for cats, it kills
> all 3, and while it is a veterinary product, it isn't technically a
> prescription product.

Are you sure this doesn't vary by region? Not totally sure, but I think it
is up here (at least that is what all the clients to the clinic are told,
and what I've been told by everyone who works at the clinic)

Dale
Deborah, DVM - 29 Jul 2008 12:44 GMT
The bottle itself, as well as the product insert, doesn't have the FDA
warning label.  As prescriptions are regulated on a federal level, I can't
imagine there would be regional differences.  Now, I'm sure there are a lot
of clinics who treat it as a prescription product, but we recently had a big
discussion on this at our clinic, and we looked at all of our dewormers to
see which were prescription and not, and drontal feline was NOT (canine,
however, IS -- go figure).

Deborah, DVM

>> What worms are you looking to treat?  Most OTC wormers only are effective
>> against roundworms, not hooks or tapes.  We use drontal for cats, it
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>
> Dale
John Hasler - 29 Jul 2008 13:09 GMT
> The bottle itself, as well as the product insert, doesn't have the FDA
> warning label.  As prescriptions are regulated on a federal level, I
> can't imagine there would be regional differences.

In the US many drugs are prescription-only in some states and over the
counter in others.
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