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Abigail - 11 Sep 2008 21:11 GMT
My 9 yr old DSH cat is constantly defecating outside of the
litterbox.  It used to be every once in a while (starting several
years ago) but for the last 6 months or so he never uses the litterbox
for defecation.  I have 4 litterboxes (spread out on the different
levels of the house), but the boxes can be freshly scooped and he will
still not use them.  I have tried different types of litter.  His
stool has been evaluated and there are no parasites.  I have tried and
currently still give pumpkin daily to prevent constipation and pain
associated with defecation.  I have tried feeding him in the areas
where he goes.  I have tried using Feliway (pheramone spray).  Today,
he did it right in front of me, and as he was going I repremanded him
and put him in the litterbox.  He proceeded to defecate on my stairs.
Sometimes he goes on hardwood floors, carpets, rugs or laundry.  He
has never urinated outside of the box.  I am at my wits end with this
unacceptable behavior and am open to ANY suggestions.  Please help!
Abigail - 11 Sep 2008 21:27 GMT
I should add that it does not seem to be attention related (occurs
even if give TONS of attention) and last year the veterinarian did
bloodwork (comprehensive blood chemistry AND thyroid check) which was
all normal.  I'm wondering about IBD, but I'm not very familar with
it, or how it is diagnosed.
Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory - 24 Sep 2008 21:55 GMT
HOWEDY Abigail,

> I should add that it does not seem to be attention related

Of curse not~! Your PUNISHMENT is ALL the attention he craves.

>  (occurs even if give TONS of attention)

Yeah. THAT'S on accHOWETA bein NICE to your BAD
critters is HOWEtweighed by *your* PUNISHIN them.

>  and last year the veterinarian did bloodwork (comprehensive
>  blood chemistry AND thyroid check) which was all normal.
>  I'm wondering about IBD, but I'm not very familar with
> it, or how it is diagnosed.

IBD *(irritable BHOWEL DIS-EASE) *(a.k.a. The Puppy Wizard's
Syndrome) is CAUSED BY STRESS from mishandling <{}:* ~ ( >

From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST

I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.

I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".

Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).

The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point at the
mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".

That made him afraid to relieve himself in the house
or in front of me.

After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.

When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".

This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...

Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking.  That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.

Thank you, Jerry, for all you help.  You've been a
blessing to all of us.

AIMEE

              ------------------------

From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com):

I own a black an tan coonhound.  We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.

I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.

I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.

My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.

For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!

I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be  left home  alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.

Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better.  We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.

For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.

We simply eliminated the nagging and the acting out to get
NEGATIVE attention from one another since we weren't getting
the POSITIVE attention we wanted.

So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS METHODS WORK.

It's up to you to accept them.  Yes, there's alot of blame
that we have to accept, but once we realize that we've caused
these problems to arise, we can strive to make things better.

AIMEE

            *****************************

              I THINK YOU GET THE POINT.
Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory - 24 Sep 2008 21:37 GMT
HOWEDY Abigail,

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> My 9 yr old DSH cat is constantly defecating outside of the litterbox.

We got a couple animal lovers who'd eagerly
MURDER your kitty kat for you...

                    LIKE THIS:

From: diddy (di...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse?
Date: 2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST

Lyn wrote:
  > > You know I'm a cat abuser because I let my cat out.
  > >  Alison
  >
  > Well, it totally depends upon where you live, as to whether
  > or not doing so is in the best interest of your animal.
  > Abuser isn't a term I would use, and I am a "cat group"
  > regular.

Here it would be abuse. If you like your cat you keep it
home. I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline.

This  morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily,
an animal caught in a snare  can be released unharmed.
One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the
complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)

Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals,
to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they
can't become lunch.. whatever.

Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area.

This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this cat
was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because
I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I
imagined this cat was not likely to survive.

It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate
cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a
collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure.
(no id on the collar).

It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken to
the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this
particular cat survives the experience or not.

People in the area were aware that trapping was being done and
apparently still let their cats run free, b oth endangered by
the traps and by the coyotes being targeted that are causing a
problem with their cat population.

Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tried
to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been a
kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be attracted to
this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation.
If you like your pet, you keep them home.

         ----------------------

          AND LIKE THIS:

DIDDY ON CATS (shoot, don't trap)

From: diddy (di...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: Fur Auction Ohio State Trappers Association
Xenia Ohio Feb 15 2002
Date: 2002-02-16 12:06:21 PST

If I can get him  away from the Olympics, I'll have him
answer that. He doesn't know how to change the identity on
the computer, so if "I" answer this post... it's really
Jeff. And no.... we went to watch. He sold nothing. btw..
are these "CATS" feral domestic cats? (sorry not familiar
with Oklahoma) (I just shoot the DSH cats. Jeff caught a
couple cats last summer while nuisance trapping an orchard,
but it wasn't intentional)
Signature

diddy

             ------------------

               AND LIKE THIS:

From: diddy
(di...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will
not look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has
never been harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there
all the time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming
the cat.

            ---------------------------------

> It used to be every once in a while (starting several
> years ago) but for the last 6 months or so he never
> uses the litterbox for defecation.

Well then, you NEED a EXXXPERT in pet rescues~!

                      LIKE THIS:

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:27:35 -0400, "Sharon Too"
<askformyaddy@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:

>...You think that euthanizing an animal does not require knowledge of a
>veterinarian? So many things can go wrong in a euthanasia not making it
>humane. And certain conditions only a doctor would be able to diagnosis
>could change the way a euthanasia is performed.

I did not make that claim; however, it is correct. Becoming a certified
euthanasia technician does require some veterinary knowledge, and some
chemistry is helpful.

Please, tell us some of those, "So many things can go wrong in a
euthanasia not making it humane." There might be one I'm not familiar
with. If you can't think of any, off the top of your head, just say so,
and I will tell you some of the things that can go wrong. I wonder, do
you think I'm clueless about this topic? LOL

The way things are done in a veterinarian's office are generally far
different from how they are done in the back of some shelter. I don't
intend to work in a vet's office!

>> In other words, I was scoffing at a statement I
>> resented for wasting the second it took to read it.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> you ask me to clarify. I certainly wouldn't want somebody
> with your arogant attitude to euthanize my pet.

Okay, I've asked you to clarify now. Happy? "Arrogant"?
LOL Silly, I am one of the most humble people you'll ever
encounter. However, I have learned to always consider the
source. And if you think I'm going to let your silly little mind
set bother me, you should reconsider.

Incidentally, whenever, I have a personal pet killed, it is
done by someone who has every bit of self confidence,
[arrogance, if you prefer], as I do.

I'll be looking forward to hearing about those
complications you mentioned.
            ________________________

                    LIKE THIS:

Newsgroups: alt.fifty-plus.friends
From: Michael A. Ball <Guard...@wireco.net>
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:52:34 -0400

Subject: Re: Superstitious?(sp)

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:43:24 GMT,

**Dalin** <l...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Care to tell us why you feel that way?
> I won't try and argue with you or change
> your mind, but what happened to put you
> off cats above all other creatures?

I've never liked cats, because their movements are too
much like those of rats. Since childhood, I viewed cats
as no more than targets.

On 12-23-95, I killed a cat that my wife had allowed her
daughter to bring into the house, as a pet, several days
earlier. The cat was a stray and having it in the house
was contrary to our agreement for living here.

My wife moved out , permanently, that night.

Ten months later, she moved out of this county--deliberately
withholding her new address. I haven't heard from her since.

Thank you for not trying to change my mind. I won't argue
about this issue. Many people hate cats; perhaps most of
them are more discrete about voicing their opinions. I
try not to say much, but sometimes, I can't resist.

Michael
Whatever it takes.

                         ------------------

                        LIKE THIS:

Newsgroups: alt.med.veterinary
From: Michael A. Ball <Guard...@wireco.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:08:20 -0400

Subject: Euthanasia certification classes?

Who teaches euthanasia certification classes in most states? I live
in Tennessee. Are the classes usually open to anyone with the fee?
How much is the fee apt to be?

The shelter wants to keep me cleaning kennels the rest of my life,
but I would like to expand my capabilities.  Thank you.
________________________
Whatever it takes.

              BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

              BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                        AND LIKE THIS:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness.  Either
she was going to kill Tasha, my Siberian  with
the rock steady temperament, or Tasha was
going tokill her, right in front of us. My DH's
first dog, and still the canine love of his life,"
racetrack silly <{) : ~ (  >

"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.
I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia
tech at our local shelter for a while, and
I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with
responsible breeders, because responsible
breeders don't contribute to that problem,"
Mustang Sally.

> I have 4 litterboxes (spread out on the different
> levels of the house), but the boxes can be freshly
> scooped and he will still not use them.  I have
> tried different types of litter.

The kind of litter and # of boxes you put HOWET is

USUALLY irelevent. HOWEsbreakin is NORMAL
NATURAL INNATE INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE
BEHAVIOR.

ALL critters HOWEsbreak NEARLY INSTANTLY.

Housebreaking is INSTINCTIVE at four weeks of age. NO
critter will soil his own den UNLESS he's SICK or UNHAPPY
or not given access to a relief area:

          Why Do You Reward The Dog For Being Bad?
                          Was:
       Punish Dogs Children SP-HOWESESWith PRAISE,
         Unconditional LOVE, TRUST, And RESPECT
                      <{) ; -  )   >

Always praise the dog to show him that you affectionally
support or love him. Praising the dog has nothing to do
with what he has just done, it has to do with your
relationship with him.

"Good dog" means "I love you, dog".

If the dog is anxious, then you make certain that he
knows that he is in a safe and trusting environment.
You praise and admire him.

Correction is the opposite signal, you are my enemy,
and this results, quite naturally, in the dog behaving
aggresively - why not, you've declared that you are his
enemy.

Why does paradoxical reward work?

The dog defecates on the floor.  You come up and say
"Good Dog" you love and praise him.

THE DOG KNOWS YOU LOVE HIM.

The dog defecates on the floor because he is anxious.
No wild wolf, jackal, or coyote defecates in his den.
If he defecates in his den its because a bear is outside
trying to get in and eat him.

The dog knows that it is stupid to
defecate where he eats or sleeps.

Don't you?

If the dog feels safe he'll behave as if he
is safe, no pooping on the living room floor.

Almost all maladaptive behavior is due to fear, anxiety,
expectation of disaster. Correct the situation, and the
dog behaves fluently like a ..... Dog!

Punishment deranges behavior, it is never never never appropriate.

Love the dog.

Praise is never punishment, praise is like giving a
piece of steak. If you give a piece of steak to a dog
after he defecates on the floor he'll stop defecating
on the floor.

Fondly, Dr. Von

          ----------------

> His stool has been evaluated and there are no parasites.

Parasites seldom cause HOWEsbreakin problems.

>  I have tried and currently still give pumpkin daily to
> prevent constipation and pain associated with defecation.

That's ABSURD.

> I have tried feeding him in the areas where he goes.

That MAY work. But PROBABLY won't.

> I have tried using Feliway (pheramone spray).

That MAY work. But PROBABLY won't.

> Today, he did it right in front of me, and as he was going
> I repremanded him and put him in the litterbox.

Ahhh~! SHAAAZZZAAAMMM~!~!~!

THAT'S HOWE COME your kat sh.ts in *YOUR* HOWES:

A. S. Neill, The Famous Founder of The Summerhill
School, Used To Cure Delinquent Children Way Back
In The 1950's By Paying Them For Every Time They
Wet The Bed Or Broke A Pane Of Glass And Their
Behaviour Would Stop, - As If By MAGICK!

The Embry Study:
"While some may find it strange that reprimands
might increase the chances of a child going into
the street, the literature on the experimental analysis
of behavior is replete with examples of how "attention
to inappropriate behavior" increases the chances of
more inappropriate behavior.

Thus, suggestions to parents that they talk to or reason
with their children about dashing into the street will
likely to have the opposite impact.

Reprimands do not punish unsafe behavior; they reward it."

Source:
"Reducing the Risk of Pedestrian Accidents to
Preschoolers by Parent Training and Symbolic
Modeling for Children: An Experimental Analysis
in the Natural Environment. Research Report
Number 2 of the Safe-Playing Project."

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966).

Some clinics have reported ELIMINATION of the
need for child THERAPY through changing the
clinical emphasis from clinical to parental
HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

> He proceeded to defecate on my stairs.

SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE?

NO. NOT "SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE".

       THAT WAS PREDICTABLE.

> Sometimes he goes on hardwood floors, carpets, rugs or laundry.

Your kat is TRYIN to TELL YOU HE AIN'T HAPPY.

> He has never urinated outside of the box.

Even kats can't stand the stink of kat pee.

> I am at my wits end with this unacceptable behavior
> and am open to ANY suggestions.  Please help!

Geez, I couldn't heelp but notice you didn't get nodoGdameneD
advice from all the kat lovers on these forums <{}: ~ ( >

Perhaps THIS will heelp?:

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH,
That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And
Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At The
Root Of The Scientific Management Of Doggies.

"All animals learn best through play," Lorenz.

B.F. Skinner: Re-evaluation of Punishment:
Punishment, unfortunately traditionally overused,
actually has been proven not effective at long-
term behavioral change, and creatures will find
other ways of getting what it wants. In "Freedom
and the control of men" American Scholar, Winter
1955-56, 25, 47-65. 1956 he states:

If we no longer resort to torture in what we call
the civilized world, we nevertheless still make
extensive use of punitive techniques in both
domestic and foreign relations. And apparently for
good reasons. Nature if not God has created man
in such a way that he can be controlled punitively.

People quickly become skillful punishers (if not,
thereby, skillful controllers), whereas alternative
positive measures are not easily learned.

The need for punishment seems to have the support
of history, and alternative practices threaten the
cherished values of freedom and dignity.

Fear involved with punishment causes frustration:
with typical results loathing, hostility and apathy.
Skinner's teaching on the superiority of posittive
reinforcement's benefits for keeping desired behavior
have proved very valuable.

                    ----------------------------

"The Koehler Method of Dog Training"
Howell Book House, 1996"

Koehler On Correcting The Housebreaking Backslider.

"If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these
"backsliders" will think they're winning and will
continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression
can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard
spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by
the mess he's made so you can come back at twenty
minute intervals and punish him again for the same
thing. (Dogs are REALLY stupid. J.H.)

In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this
disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the
light spanking that some owners seem to think is
adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog,
as well as the house, if you really pour it on him."

"Housebreaking Problems:

"The Koehler Method of Dog Training"
Howell Book House, 1996"

Occasionally, there is a pup who seems determined to
relieve himself inside the house, regardless of how
often he has the opportunity to go outside. This dog
may require punishment. Make certain he is equipped
with a collar and piece of line so he can't avoid
correction.

When you discover a mess, move in fast, take him to
the place of his error, and hold his head close enough
so that he associates his error with the punishment.
Punish him by spanking him with a light strap or
switch. Either one is better than a folded newspaper.

It is important to your future relationship that you
do not rush at him and start swinging before you get
hold of him.

When he's been spanked, take him outside. Chances
are, if you are careful in your feeding and close
observation, you will not have to do much punishing.

Be consistent in your handling.

To have a pup almost house-broken and then force
him to commit an error by not providing an opportunity
to go outside is very unfair. Careful planning will
make your job easier.

The same general techniques of housebreaking apply
to grown dogs that are inexperienced in the house.

For the grown dog who was reliable in the house and
then backslides, the method of correction differs
somewhat. In this group of "backsliders" we have the
"revenge piddler." This dog protests being alone by
messing on the floor and often in the middle of a bed.

The first step of correction is to confine the dog
closely in a part of the house when you go away, so
that he is constantly reminded of his obligation. The
fact that he once was reliable in the house is proof
that the dog knows right from wrong, and it leaves
you no other course than to punish him sufficiently
to convince him that the satisfaction of his
wrongdoing is not worth the consequences. If the
punishment is not severe enough, some of these
"backsliders" will think they're winning and will
continue to mess in the house.

An indelible impression can sometimes be made
by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration,
then leaving him tied by the mess he's made so you
can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish
him again for the same thing.

In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this
disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the
light spanking that some owners seem to think is
adequate punishment.

It will be better for your dog, as well as the house,
if you really pour it on him.

                  ---------------------

    "The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
                 may acquire those rights
        which never could have been withholden from them
                   but by the hand of tyranny.
            The question is not can they REASON,
                      nor can they TALK,
                    but can they SUFFER?"  -
                     - Jeremy Bentham

          "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
                for the good of its victims,
                may be the most oppressive.
          Those who torment us for our own good
                will torment us without end,
            for they do so with the approval of
                  their own conscience." -
                      - C.S. Lewis.

        "Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
                 Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
                       Agamemnon.

       "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
                  and you will know each other.
        If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
               and what you do not know you will fear.

                  What one fears, one destroys."
                     Chief Dan George

            All truth passes through three stages.
                    First, it is ridiculed.
              Second, it is violently opposed.
           Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
                   -Arthur Schopenhauer

            "Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
                 even tho it's a hopeless task,
                    in this system of things.
                 As long as man is ruling man,
                there will be animals (and humans!)
                   abused and neglected. :-(
                   Your student," Juanita.

               "If you've got them by the balls
                   their hearts and minds
                       will follow,"
                        John Wayne.

                   ANY QUESTIONS, People?

                 "Ye shall know the truth,
             and the truth shall make you mad." -
                      ~Aldous Huxley.

     "Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
     "Against stupidity the Gods themselves  contend in vain!"
                     -Friedrich Schiller.

                         INDEEDY.

            AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!

                    In Love And Light,
            I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
               The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
                       Jerry Howe,
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