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anaphylactic shock from Vaccines-alternatives?

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David - 25 Feb 2004 13:57 GMT
Our Pug got his shoots last year-Rabies, Distemper,  and Lymes.
Several hours later he went into anaphylactic shock.
He is due for his shots again,  but we don't this to happen again.
What can we do?
diddy - 25 Feb 2004 14:32 GMT
> Our Pug got his shoots last year-Rabies, Distemper,  and Lymes.
> Several hours later he went into anaphylactic shock.
> He is due for his shots again,  but we don't this to happen again.
> What can we do?

I wopuld schedule several appointments and have each shot given seperately.
I also would keep him at the clinic under observation post vaccination.
Once you find out which shot caused the reaction, I would NOT give that one
to him any more.
Perhaps he may always have to have his shots given seperately. I know of
several dogs like this.
(I am NOT a vet)
Carey Gregory - 25 Feb 2004 18:16 GMT
>Our Pug got his shoots last year-Rabies, Distemper,  and Lymes.
>Several hours later he went into anaphylactic shock.
>He is due for his shots again,  but we don't this to happen again.
>What can we do?

First of all, skip the Lyme.  I live in the heart of Lyme disease and very
few vets around here still recommend Lyme vaccination because it's just not
very effective.  With any luck, Lyme will be the vaccine that caused his
reaction.

I'm not a vet, but in human medicine if a patient has to receive an
injection they have a known allergy to, then the usual procedure is to load
the patient up with benadryl (and sometimes steroids) in advance, and then
prepare to manage the reaction.  I would guess the procedure in veterinary
medicine is about the same.  And as diddy said, doing each vaccination
separately would seem wise so you can determine which vaccine is the
culprit.
Hillary Israeli - 25 Feb 2004 20:54 GMT
*First of all, skip the Lyme.  I live in the heart of Lyme disease and very
*few vets around here still recommend Lyme vaccination because it's just not
*very effective.  With any luck, Lyme will be the vaccine that caused his
*reaction.

I agree.

*I'm not a vet, but in human medicine if a patient has to receive an
*injection they have a known allergy to, then the usual procedure is to load
*the patient up with benadryl (and sometimes steroids) in advance, and then
*prepare to manage the reaction.  I would guess the procedure in veterinary
*medicine is about the same.  And as diddy said, doing each vaccination

Yep. Also of note is the fact that the leptospirosis fraction tends to be
the most allergenic part of the standard canine vaccine regimen. Consider
skipping that too if the dog is low risk.

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CPT (former!) Deborah - 25 Feb 2004 21:12 GMT
> *First of all, skip the Lyme.  I live in the heart of Lyme disease and very
> *few vets around here still recommend Lyme vaccination because it's just not
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> the most allergenic part of the standard canine vaccine regimen. Consider
> skipping that too if the dog is low risk.

And skip the corona if he got that.  Lepto and corona seem to cause the most
reactions, in my experience.  I generally give owners two options when it
comes to vaccine reactions (assuming that the reaction wasn't
life-threatening -- if it was then that's a different story).  First option
is to split up the shots and do one at a time, and have the owner wait for
30 min or so at the clinic.  That option lets you be able to ID which
vaccine/combo is causing the reaction.  And maybe there won't be a reaction
if vaccs are split up.  Second option is to pretreat with benadryl (either
owners give orally or give shot at clinic), give all vaccines together, and
see what happens.  I prefer option #1, because I'd like to know what caused
the reaction.  Most owners prefer #2, because it means only one trip to the
vet!

Deborah, DVM
Hillary Israeli - 26 Feb 2004 21:43 GMT
*And skip the corona if he got that.  Lepto and corona seem to cause the most
*reactions, in my experience.  I generally give owners two options when it

Oh, I don't use corona vaccine, so I wouldn't know :)

-h.

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David - 27 Feb 2004 15:52 GMT
Thank you everyone
A lot of information to digest

> *And skip the corona if he got that.  Lepto and corona seem to cause the most
> *reactions, in my experience.  I generally give owners two options when it
>
> Oh, I don't use corona vaccine, so I wouldn't know :)
>
> -h.
Mary Ellen Daub - 26 Feb 2004 00:31 GMT
Make sure you remind the vet. Go to your regular veterinarian, not one from
a pet store. They will give Benedryl at the same time as the vacs. Also, ask
if they include Lepto in their Distemper vaccine. If so, I would request a
Distemper without Lepto. We have some problems with Leptospirosis vaccines
in this area.
Good luck.   Mary Ellen
> Our Pug got his shoots last year-Rabies, Distemper,  and Lymes.
> Several hours later he went into anaphylactic shock.
> He is due for his shots again,  but we don't this to happen again.
> What can we do?
buglady - 26 Feb 2004 11:17 GMT
> Our Pug got his shoots last year-Rabies, Distemper,  and Lymes.
> Several hours later he went into anaphylactic shock.
> He is due for his shots again,  but we don't this to happen again.
> What can we do?

........How old is your pug?

buglady
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David - 26 Feb 2004 14:30 GMT
he will be 2 years

> > Our Pug got his shoots last year-Rabies, Distemper,  and Lymes.
> > Several hours later he went into anaphylactic shock.
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> buglady
> take out the dog before replying
buglady - 27 Feb 2004 01:33 GMT
> he will be 2 years
> > ........How old is your pug?

........Here are some recommendations for frequency of vaccinations.
Personally I wouldn't be doing anything but rabies for this dog, if he
completed the puppy series.  More shots don't equal better protection.

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002&PID=2614&Catego
ry=418
http://www.ivis.org/advances/Infect_Dis_Carmichael/schultz/IVIS.pdf
http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/vaccines2.html
http://www.cvmbs.colostate.edu/vth/savp2.html
http://critterfixer.com/pages/v1_new_vacc_protocols.asp

best of luck
buglady
take out the dog before replying
 
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